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My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

 
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So many claimed masons are coming out of the woodworks to claim this thread as BS means it's not BS.
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Who's claiming to be a Mason?
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And at the end he revealed that he is indeed not your grandfather but your uncle.
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So many claimed masons are coming out of the woodworks to claim this thread as BS means it's not BS.
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Who's claiming to be a Mason?
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Troll is trolling.
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I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.
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And at the end he revealed that he is indeed not your grandfather but your uncle.
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End of what?

Why is HE either your grandfather or uncle?
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So many claimed masons are coming out of the woodworks to claim this thread as BS means it's not BS.
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Who's claiming to be a Mason?
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Troll is trolling.
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You are running out of ammo, so you turn it into a personal attack, very childlike.
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my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

I thought we are now entering the 5th World and yes ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.
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freemasons on both sides of the family. mother was a rainbow girl, grandmothers eastern star, grandfather very high ranking military, and a high ranking mason, in his late 70s. the only thing he said was "its not a secret society, but it is a society with secrets"
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I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.
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I doubt you're a Mason either, lol. Certainly, not a 32 degree. Nothing you said is the truth as you explain things. You are probably "at-best" an entry-level sheep. It has been told by several over-achievers in Masonry 33 degrees(came-out and quit!) and further up that no one below 33rd degree KNOWS the truth. Your way of speaking words tells me that you are no where even near beyond "entry-level". You just don't sound very mature or in the "know". I believe I have read that there are many levels above 32 degrees?....that is where a free mason actually startd to learn the truth as in "who" you are REALLY serving there pal! And that is Lucifer! Do some research! ;) You're still really wet behind the ears as a person in general. You are really a non-thinking niave person. You thin you're in the Boyscouts of America or someting you talk stupid...lol. The Boyscouts don't kill their own members for talking...as have the masons. Again do your research there sonny!
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freemasons on both sides of the family. mother was a rainbow girl, grandmothers eastern star, grandfather very high ranking military, and a high ranking mason, in his late 70s. the only thing he said was "its not a secret society, but it is a society with secrets"
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Heard woman aren't treated very well in the brotherhood, they are left out?
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The Boyscouts don't kill their own members for talking...as have the masons. Again do your research there sonny!

It is known, one mason 'talked' and was killed back in the 1800's I believe?
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my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

I thought we are now entering the 5th World and yes ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.
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So basically, this is common knowledge from the native American Indians. Must be where the masons learned this from? lol.
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There is a TEST within Masonic initiation were the initiate is required to kiss a Baphomet Statues ass ....

The Significance is he MUST RECOGNICE evil is part of him ,that the first step is to RECOGNIZE you are the devil
in the mirror of your own personality ..

once you RECOGNIZE you are of EVIL nature only then you can RECOGNIZE your own DEFECTS & WORK TOWARD CHISTIFICATION toward the Elimination & transformation of your evil nature into angelic one ...

True Masons PROMOTE same Virtues , same LAWS of God , all Human milestones In LAW , constitution, Freedom & liberty had being attained by masonic involvement in Politics & revolutions .

The Usurpers had being trying to destroy Masons using Religion & fanatics and corrupting masons into evil mafia orgs , satanic worshipers put as masters corrupting the basic teaching of the ancient masters who built this planet & all within it ( The Elohim )

I am A true mason Master Architect and I am telling the Truth", before god And men !

behind the statue a virgin awaits , she will embrace you
as the reflection of good within you as you recognize your own evils , you are in the path toward redemption ( no more devil ass kissing from that moment on ) as the lady will not permit you to end that task.

Your Work is initiated .... to become an angel of god ..

that is the true symbolism of Baphomet ....
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I am a Knight of the Brazen Serpent and I can tell you that the OP is full of something, and truth it's not.

As far as the "Masons don't know what masons do!" Ok... and you do? Come off it. There is no hidden agenda, there is no global cabal. There are gullible people out there though, a lot of whom seem to congregate here.

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I agree. As far as deceitful controllers, I would look no further than the Vatican. All this anti-mason crap was started by them.
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I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.
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my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

I thought we are now entering the 5th World and yes ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.
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So basically, this is common knowledge from the native American Indians. Must be where the masons learned this from? lol.
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Maybe the Egyptians? Of course, in a earlier time, maybe all knowledge was shared world wide?
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There is a TEST within Masonic initiation were the initiate is required to kiss a Baphomet Statues ass ....

The Significance is he MUST RECOGNICE evil is part of him ,that the first step is to RECOGNIZE you are the devil
in the mirror of your own personality ..

once you RECOGNIZE you are of EVIL nature only then you can RECOGNIZE your own DEFECTS & WORK TOWARD CHISTIFICATION toward the Elimination & transformation of your evil nature into angelic one ...

True Masons PROMOTE same Virtues , same LAWS of God , all Human milestones In LAW , constitution, Freedom & liberty had being attained by masonic involvement in Politics & revolutions .

The Usurpers had being trying to destroy Masons using Religion & fanatics and corrupting masons into evil mafia orgs , satanic worshipers put as masters corrupting the basic teaching of the ancient masters who built this planet & all within it ( The Elohim )

I am A true mason Master Architect and I am telling the Truth", before god And men !

behind the statue a virgin awaits , she will embrace you
as the reflection of good within you as you recognize your own evils , you are in the path toward redemption ( no more devil ass kissing from that moment on ) as the lady will not permit you to end that task.

Your Work is initiated .... to become an angel of god ..

that is the true symbolism of Baphomet ....
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I'm calling this BS. CHISTIFICATION??
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Higher level masons understand sacred geometry.
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Higher level masons understand the movement of the heavens.
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I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.
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Money is the root of all evil and big money controls the Masons.
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You shoulda just said;

Gnostic (eg. Freemasons): In possession of intellectual or esoteric knowledge of spiritual truths.


Gnosis (eg. plebeian): INTUITIVE knowledge of spiritual truths (the same "truths" in possession of ancient Gnostics).


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I will make a joke about the super knowledge of masons and the Illuminati. Kissinger can answer this one:

State the true purpose of earth from the POV of the multiverse, why all the different races and who controls this ball of rock from outside?.

The real controllers please ;).
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Earth , built by FEMALES who did not REVELED against God
the Mother Earth to collect the lost Sons of God within the Universe .. Earth is built as gateway for Evil to Repent & return to Gods kingdom..

Who controls Earth ? , the hierarchy ( 7 people) Whos mains are IOAN(female) & EMAN (Male) in the physical , the Planet Belongs to the "Holy Mother" to whom they respond ..

Were they reside ? Look for the nation whos Shield haves the Lamb of god Resting over the book of seven seals , (the future new Jerusalem ) there is were Worlds hierarchy resides in the physical the whole galaxy is ruled from earth !


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I will make a joke about the super knowledge of masons and the Illuminati. Kissinger can answer this one:

State the true purpose of earth from the POV of the multiverse, why all the different races and who controls this ball of rock from outside?.

The real controllers please ;).
 Quoting: A friend of wolves from afar 44078251


Earth , built by FEMALES who did not REVELED against God
the Mother Earth to collect the lost Sons of God within the Universe .. Earth is built as gateway for Evil to Repent & return to Gods kingdom..

Who controls Earth ? , the hierarchy ( 7 people) Whos mains are IOAN(female) & EMAN (Male) in the physical , the Planet Belongs to the "Holy Mother" to whom they respond ..

Were they reside ? Look for the nation whos Shield haves the Lamb of god Resting over the book of seven seals , (the future new Jerusalem ) there is were Worlds hierarchy resides in the physical the whole galaxy is ruled from earth !


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You have been corrupted.
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The Boyscouts don't kill their own members for talking...as have the masons. Again do your research there sonny!

It is known, one mason 'talked' and was killed back in the 1800's I believe?
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Actually there are several documented. But how many others are there really? I think JFK was another of many that were killed fro talking!? HE was murdered 4 days after making his last speech...where he said there were nefarious parties or secret societies that have infiltrated many parts of our lives and govt. He was talking about a rogue shadow-gvt I believe. He was trying to break their stranglehold and eradicate them from our gov't. As I said 4 dyas later he was killed for making that speech. And still today there is an eternal flame over his grave....a synbol from the Illiumnati (Freemasons). How many others have been killed who were in the masons and wanted out?! John Lennon...George Harrison? Robert F.Kennedy? JFK, Jr? 911 victims??? Gives you alot to think about...doesn't it?
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I don't know anything about that organization,but I know my brother is a 32nd degree and has been a member for about 20 years. He used to be a kind loving person who cared about his family,now he is a person who always writes us the nastiest letters and he turned into a psychopath,it seems he hates his entire family and all he thinks about is his money and wealth. I have news for him,he is not taking any of that money with him when he dies. I think he sold his soul.
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Money is the root of all evil and big money controls the Masons.
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But what is their wisdoom?
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The Boyscouts don't kill their own members for talking...as have the masons. Again do your research there sonny!

It is known, one mason 'talked' and was killed back in the 1800's I believe?
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Actually there are several documented. But how many others are there really? I think JFK was another of many that were killed fro talking!? HE was murdered 4 days after making his last speech...where he said there were nefarious parties or secret societies that have infiltrated many parts of our lives and govt. He was talking about a rogue shadow-gvt I believe. He was trying to break their stranglehold and eradicate them from our gov't. As I said 4 dyas later he was killed for making that speech. And still today there is an eternal flame over his grave....a synbol from the Illiumnati (Freemasons). How many others have been killed who were in the masons and wanted out?! John Lennon...George Harrison? Robert F.Kennedy? JFK, Jr? 911 victims??? Gives you alot to think about...doesn't it?
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Then gain, maybe he was killed bc he was going to disband the federal reserve?





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