Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

I have not made another attempt yet, but it feels like i made a huge step on my path, compared to the steps i made earlier.

Right now i feel that i am experiencing some kind of merge already and i just could not phrase it. I try to phrase what i recognize. The hole experience feels important to me...

May was the month when it got extrem. I was set on medication that hit my physical Body in a way i never could have expected, no-one warned me, and the doctors that heard my descriptions seemed completely puzzled, they keep sending me to the next specialists, which is puzzled... i was on that medication for a year already, i expected side effects but nothing like that.

From one day to another my "natural rhythym" was away. My Body and Mind were tired like hell, but sleep almost impossible. I had to stay awake for at least 36 hours to be able to sleep for 2-6 hours, just to wake up and feel like i haven't slept. The way of thinking changed radical, at the beginning i did not realize that i was speaking what i thought before i even knew the thought itself, everything i said was complete, honest and exactly what i felt was "right" from my actual position. several people got hurt quite deeply through this, after i realized what was going on i started avoiding people that would not be able to understand.
I assume that the current changes influence me and are the reason for the heavy side effects i am experiencing.
magnetic fields, or something, i do not know much about the topic cause i feel that i can't process the questions that would come up right now. My minds already constantly "overloaded". The sleeping got a bit better, but is still "wrong".
I'm not yet finished processing all the input.
There's one friend, not my boyfriend (i use BF as short expression for boyfriend), but the first person i consider as best friend. That person seems to have a talent to decipher the symbols others use while trying to explain something. A thought that "normals" would call weird will be understood by him, and it seems easy for him, natural.
Eventually , he will be joining this exercise in the future.

he had an explanation for the "cat in the car"-dream paradoxon. My cat can't be in the car, cause she only leaves the appartment if we take her to the vet.
She appeared as an Anchor that could make me aware that i am dreaming, allowing to take control of the dream= that would make the dream lucid. And i realized that she is an anchor for me on several dimensions , and that she was one of my anchors all the time.

I found it very helpful to talk to this friend, he gave some hints i needed to answer and thereby process open questions. He reassured me that there was and is logic behind my new thinking.

If i try to summarize the difference between my old and new thinking: I started thinking sentences, in german. Now i FEEL or KNOW. The Feeling or Knowledge can be vague. Maybe i am beginning to perceive and communicate in symbols.
I wonder if anyone knows what i mean.

That's good, it may really help with a familiar room.

I had a hard time with the large square room, couldn't make it stable. Especially, it just wouldn't stay square... my room preferred to be rectangular for some odd reason.

Report for second night try:

I decided to attempt only the night sleep sessions, until I succed. The deep relaxation ones may be tainted by the waking mind.

I went to bed, determined to enter the room, with no unique action prepared. I thought in case I would prepare it on the fly, or just be an observer for the night.

Again, last night I could barely visualize the room with the statue of Sekhmet, that I fell asleep right away... No dreams that I can recall, or any details. But I *know* I was there, woke up with this feeling that I was very busy all night in the room.

I overslept tremendously too, and if it wasn't for the cat waking me up, I may still be sleeping!

So, in spite of not recalling a darn thing, I feel that some progress has been made. I am trying to get flashes in the hopes or remembering even a tiny shred of the experience.

I will try again tonight, with a familiar room, and I will prepare a unique action beforehand, which may help in remembering the dream.

To all who have wondered or asked questions here, we (will) connect in the dream world.

See you there :)

I did watch that video a while back, and now I don't remember the content clearly. Thanks! I'll watch it again.

In my experience, imagination does it. Get into it, visualize the sequence, and eventually, when you reach the place, it becomes more vivid.

At times, I have to restart again, focusing more and more on her details, until the waking mind is tired of analyzing if I did it right, and the "plot" evolves on its own, pathway, scenery, interaction, and so on.

As you visualize, you can try to evoke sensations. Like when you put your hand on her shoulder, try to "feel" the temperature of the stone, the solidity of ther shoulder, etc.

Hope this helps.

No offense to the believers on here but do you people actually think that you are meeting this Chaol person in your dreams?

The idea is to connect with others, not to meet me.

Meeting me (the 12% or so of posters and non-posters here that seem to have succeeded) is incidental. Most of it is imaginary (a connection, but one more of oneself than a "dynamic" connection) but we are not looking for a complete success.

Just one connection with an other person here would have been profound.

We have (had) a few. Even though most connections would be considered failures the event itself was an astounding success. More than is currently realized. It is the beginning of a new humanity. Baby steps, as is said.

Of course there's no way to prove this (nor do I wish to).

However, I will begin a new thread that will announce the first attempt at connecting the dream world and the waking world, en mass, on July 18.

A "big ass UFO" (as we tend to call these less physically relative values) right here in your physical world, witnessed by many. That, incidentally, is the proof that many (most) seek. It also happens to be a nice way to show yourself that you're not dreaming. An exercise of your new power.

"Fu$@ it! We'll do it live!"

The idea is to connect with others, not to meet me.

Meeting me (the 12% or so of posters and non-posters here that seem to have succeeded) is incidental. Most of it is imaginary (a connection, but one more of oneself than a "dynamic" connection) but we are not looking for a complete success.

Just one connection with an other person here would have been profound.

We have (had) a few. Even though most connections would be considered failures the event itself was an astounding success. More than is currently realized. It is the beginning of a new humanity. Baby steps, as is said.

Of course there's no way to prove this (nor do I wish to).

However, I will begin a new thread that will announce the first attempt at connecting the dream world and the waking world, en mass, on July 18.

A "big ass UFO" (as we tend to call these less physically relative values) right here in your physical world, witnessed by many. That, incidentally, is the proof that many (most) seek. It also happens to be a nice way to show yourself that you're not dreaming. An exercise of your new power.

"Fu$@ it! We'll do it live!"

So your saying that we are going to see a big UFO now? or are you saying that those in the dream world will only see it? In other words say that 50 people are standing outside together at say a shopping mall. How many of those 50 people will be able to see the UFO? Pls explain!!!

he means something unusual , "less physically relative values." UFOs are projections of the dream world concept of transportation or whatever ... it should be visible to many hopefully in the physical world! cant wait :)

Yea but unfortunately something happens all the time. If he says big UFO event on July 18th then people will be scanning the net for a reported UFO sighting and then Chaol will claim that he was right. same thing if he says something will happen on July 15th, etc....... One thing I have learned from this site is that people will predict something and if they can find something remotely possible to what was predicted they will hail the OP. If he says that a UFO will be spotted by atleast 20% of the worlds population then that may be a different story.

You have a good point but are absolutely clueless. 20% of the world's population would mean that every Chinese citizen would have to see this thing firsthand. Outside of things like the sky, the sun, the moon, the stars or the ground, there has never been anything that 1.4 Billion people have all witnessed firsthand at the same time.

The idea is to connect with others, not to meet me.

Meeting me (the 12% or so of posters and non-posters here that seem to have succeeded) is incidental. Most of it is imaginary (a connection, but one more of oneself than a "dynamic" connection) but we are not looking for a complete success.

Just one connection with an other person here would have been profound.

We have (had) a few. Even though most connections would be considered failures the event itself was an astounding success. More than is currently realized. It is the beginning of a new humanity. Baby steps, as is said.

Of course there's no way to prove this (nor do I wish to).

However, I will begin a new thread that will announce the first attempt at connecting the dream world and the waking world, en mass, on July 18.

A "big ass UFO" (as we tend to call these less physically relative values) right here in your physical world, witnessed by many. That, incidentally, is the proof that many (most) seek. It also happens to be a nice way to show yourself that you're not dreaming. An exercise of your new power.

"Fu$@ it! We'll do it live!"

moi aussi, let it be a surprise. i think chaols doing great. looking forward to trying to meet in the room this night and experimenting with dreams....

Happy Solstice Everybody.....oh wait, that was yesterday.

Time flies.



From: "Mark"

Dear All,
Our next healing circle will be Sunday, June 24, at 11 Pacific, 12
Mountain, 1 Central, 2 Eastern and 8pm South Africa time.
The telephone number will be 605-475-5950 and the access code 25852.
Thank you to those who joined us in April and May.
This is one person's experience of one of our older circles:
"I just wanted to thank you, again, for our healing circle today. As
usual, it was like our circle was one Spirit and we were thinking,
feeling, and experiencing the same beautiful help and assistance for
growth as if we were one Soul. Exposure to transforming Love seems so
much more powerful as a group and I find myself continuing to grow
and change long after it's over." Leisa
Hope you can be with us.
m
[link to iloveyouandforgiveyou.org]


11 July 2012
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The Maya Prophecy for 2012:
Hope for all Humankind
with Miguel Angel Vergara

9am Honolulu • 12pm San Francisco • 3pm New York • 8pm London


Day by day we are fast approaching the date of December 21 2012 and the end of the Mayan Calendar. So far, many of the messages delivered via the Internet, films, and books regarding this event have focused on a catastrophe on a grand scale or even the end of Humankind, creating much fear and anxiety in the minds of thousands of people as they think that the year 2012 could bring the end of the world and that this is something that cannot be changed or transformed.

First of all, it is important to note that in their calendars the ancient Maya did not say that the year 2012 would be the end of humanity. If so, then why did they include mention of dates after this year?

Archeologists and epigraphers working for the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH) of Mexico recently reconfirmed that the exact date of the end of this era, corresponds to the 23 of December 2012 and not the 21 of December that has been mentioned so far. This date is found recorded in stone in Stele No.6, discovered in the archeological zone of Tortuguero, Tabasco and in a fragment found in the Olmec-Maya city of Comocalco, Tabasco.

But we ask ourselves: What is the stele telling us? What is going to happen on this date? What this stele tells us and in a clear and direct way, is that we are going to conclude a period of time, an era, a sun, a final cycle, and then initiate a new one. Once the 13 Baktuns end on the 23 of December 2012, Bolon-Yokte-Ku, the god of the 9 pillars, will descend from the heavens.

Also discussed by the Archeologists from the National Institute of Anthropology is that there exists records in the Temple of the Inscriptions in Palenque, Chiapas, (the pyramid where the tomb of the Teacher Pakal Votan is located) which mention dates 2,000 years later, that is to say to the year 4,772 A.D., which reflects the deep knowledge, wisdom, and cosmic awareness that the Mayas reached about Time and the Calendar, apart from the study of Astronomy, Mathematics, Geometry, and Writing.

We are living, in this moment, a process of Change of Consciousness in all of us; in which a catastrophic prophecy or negative saying, is able to be transformed into something positive; we have already been given the power to believe, to create, and to manifest; here, right now, in this moment and in the future, we have the marvelous opportunity to create! Yes! A golden era, but based on a change in thinking and a change in consciousness, based on being and acting differently; loving, respecting, and honoring all the elements of life on this planet: earth, water, air, fire, ether, human beings, mountains, rivers, volcanoes, lakes, animals, plants, trees, caves, cenotes, temples, pyramids, etc., etc…

The Maya teachers taught us saying, “If you believe, you can create, and if you can create you can manifest.” You can do it since you are a potential creator!

Each atom of creation has three parts:
1. Material
2. Consciousness
3. Energy

more:
[link to greatmystery.org]

@Chaol
It would be very helpful to me if you can tell me if I had any success. Because I feel I didn't, and I fell asleep every single time I tried. Thanks.

So your saying that we are going to see a big UFO now? or are you saying that those in the dream world will only see it? In other words say that 50 people are standing outside together at say a shopping mall. How many of those 50 people will be able to see the UFO? Pls explain!!!

Have you tried anything to help to anchor yourself to your waking mind?

Someone mentioned counting back from 10. Perhaps you've tried this or something else?

And I'm sure this big ass UFO is going to show up in England during the Olypmics. Just as expected. And then there will be a couple of people trying to lead the way who call themselves the children of Quetzalcoatl. Am I dong this right?

Yea but unfortunately something happens all the time. If he says big UFO event on July 18th then people will be scanning the net for a reported UFO sighting and then Chaol will claim that he was right. same thing if he says something will happen on July 15th, etc....... One thing I have learned from this site is that people will predict something and if they can find something remotely possible to what was predicted they will hail the OP. If he says that a UFO will be spotted by atleast 20% of the worlds population then that may be a different story.

Chaol, would it be possible to have a short description of the successful connections, or some indication about them?

Especially since you said that most of meeting you is imaginary (not dynamic). It would be helpful to know more about the successes. Needless to say, I'd love to know the nature of my perceived dialogue and connection with you and the others, as a reference for future attempts.

Usually, when one experiences something in a successful way, knows the difference and there is no need for confirmation, but this is all so new and uncharted territory, that it's hard to pin down things completely without a frame of reference.

Looking forward to the "big ass UFO" experiment!

Cool, it's party time in the dream world!

I will start in a few, really late here. Was planning on half sleep access. If I doze off in deep sleep mode right away, I hope to remember the dream. This is still a challenge for me.

No need to wait. You could actually experience this while awake. It takes a bit more practice, so I would recommend you first do it while sleeping.

Some would call this experiencing both worlds simultaneously. But really it would then be two (relative) interpretations of an experience.

You would see how your waking world is the dream world.

I find very hard to focus, but, hey!; I've got all the time don't I? I'll keep trying. Thanks again Chaol!