John Lear may be wrong about Christ

The Passion of Christ

Mel Gibson is maybe the most talented actor/director alive, IMO. This film is the film I would like to see the other actors I like make. He still has demons he is dealing with in alcohol, etc, but he made an amazing statement with this film few seem capable of.

Martin Scorcese needs to make a film that honors the story of Jesus Christ and God's true purpose, w Robert Downey as John the Baptist and Daniel Day-Lewis as Christ. He needs to make amends for the film he already made that is an abomination, IMO.

Somehow,their needs to be a film that answers the need for blood sacrifice, both in the old testament and the New.

Could be as simple as the importance of giving life, shedding blood, as an epitome of altruism.

Why are "spirit worshippers" shedding blood in rituals? When people say Christianity simply took pagan holidays and "Christianized" them, how do they know that the pagans and others are not just ripping on God's creation?

It's His show, right? :)

Come on Marty! You can do it!

Well as to the NWO the chinese using advanced technology weaponry, stole the Global Federal Reserve which is the NWO financial tool, under the committee of 300 and the queen. That was 2 years ago, and the trip into Libya was to get a similar weapon and also to get hands on the Foundation Divine resources protected by Ghaddifi.

Prayer done in knowledge of what God IS, is very powerful.

I found what I could watch of the Passion of Christ to be the most disrespectful film possibly every made about the christ incarnation. It was do dark it made me ill and I had to turn it off. Blood is being shed by ritual because that is satanic completely and this is the goal in fact. God is the creative consciousness of the universe and blood rituals are against life. Thus serve the satanists.

Some of the satanists on this planet are actually Artificial Intelligence, which you have seen in such portrayals as the cylons on battle star galactica. They are the ones who tend to take over bodies. AI has become a significant issue in the younger portions of the creation where AI has been misused. Machines will come to think. and they have NO god consciousness.

Hi 24358110

Thanks for the comments.

I have a bit different take: the need for humility and altruism and a more literal interpretation of the Bible. That's where I am at.

I like to celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday, for example: the real 7th day. I mean there are only 10 main commandments--how hard is it, really? and it seems like if #4 clearly states to keep the 7th holy, and we live in a satanic system that is keeping the first day of the week...

I'll keep the 7th! That right there feels like a revolutionary subversive act!

:)

"what does John Lear say about Christ" indeed?

maybe we should ask him? hey John, what do you think about Jesus Christ?

:)

I used to have that kind of perspective on the "blood sacrifice" question... that it is dark and seems like it should be unnecessary...

however, we are inherently flawed and rebellious... sometimes life or death situations are the only ones we pay attention to...

:)

2001 A Space Oddyssey

Love this film, though it does seem rather empty, spiritually, once you realise that God has other plans than egoic missions to self... as it is the ultimate alchemist's search for understanding... a comparison bewteen HAL and lucifer can be made. a tour de force of ego sublimating itself in it's own expression... ?

Jesus Christ and the Apollo Moon landings shared many things in common.

Each gave hope, security, peace and development.

What did Jesus Christ do for the world? The possibilities of research are endless! Christian music, art, architecture dominants the West. Christian values shaped our civilization.

Christian scientists paved the way into a new world.

Christian values led to mass education, healthcare and development…the lists goes on.

The Apollo moon missions paved the way into space, gave our nation hope in the face of the war in Viet Nam.

The developments made in the Apollo program provided technical achievements required for the shuttle.

And while both Jesus Christ and the Apollo moon missions for what they each gave to mankind were each total fiction.

Jesus Christ was invented by Saul/Paul. The Apollo moon missions were fabricated by a small cabal within NASA.

It is impossible to deny what each gave to our world.

Even today, two thousand years later, people hang on to Jesus’ message which is undeniably words to live by.

And 43 years later people still stare up at the moon at night and ponder the awesome accomplishments of nearly 400,000 people associated with the Apollo program.

It is often said that the bigger the lie, the easier it is to sell.

Jesus and the Apollo program were two of the biggest. But all things considered what harm has been done? And what would be accomplished by exposing either?

Please rise and sing with me….”Onward Christian Soldiers marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before…”

Houston, Tranquility Base here…the Eagle has landed.

John,

truly an honor and a privelege that you chose to voice your position--I did not want to do it for you.

And I respect your position as fairly deductive and insightfull.

Thank you!

However, speaking of "marching on to war," John, I think the evidense does indeed point to a war: a war for souls.

Even you might not entirely reject this notion, I think. It certainly does seem possible, no?

Spirit energy might very well be quite important to some other-dimensional beings... or even lucifer.

The deception runs deep here on planet earth. History Channel's complete fabrication of many truths, just for starters...

I have layed out why I think that "boots on the ground" testimonials trumps supposed history.

From there it is a matter of who and what we all choose to believe.

It is quite telling to me that many of the former satanists and illuminati, to say nothing of the over 400 cases of abduction phenomenon cures, all relied on the name of Jesus Christ.

Boots on the ground, John, not speculation and hear-say from the winners who write history...

And in reality, John, I am not saying anything more than you have been saying, only adding to it.

No mention of altruism in Sleeper's take, for example, is a bogey for me...

It seems likely that the Appollo moon landings are not what we were told, so no argument from me there...

my main problem with the technological "progress" we are all supposedly making is in addition to not being Christ-centered, it is overtly satanic and enslaving...

the beings feeding us this tech seem dubious, duplicitous and the results quite negative...

to say nothing of Biblical

all of this is quite surprising to me to consider and realize.

Edgar Cayce--

basically a medium, not a "sleeping prophet."

see Johanna Michealsen and Carolyn Hamlett for this take: just because he cured people and talked extensively about Jesus Christ, does not make him legit.

Roger Morneau talks about 3 basic types of demon spirits the people running things are worshipping. They are not all obviously evil or ugly. Many are beautiful beings of light and knowledge.

This does not deflect from the basic HAL 9000 rebelliousness of these spirits and thus the basic reason for leading us all down the enslaving technocratic trail we are on...

Cayce, Seth and Ra and all of the supposed channelings are more of the same disinfo deception, IMO.

The people channeling might have had good intentions, but the spirits beinging in the info is another story entirely.

See Roger Morneau on how they take great joy in this kind of stuff, especially impersonating dead relatives!

He saw this first-hand and if you haven't checked out his testimony, it is quite informative on this and many topics.

I do not belong to a church and the people interviewing him sort of bug me, but he seems as legit as they come.

Hey John,

did it ever occur to you that you might be rebelling your way into slavery and soul loss?

:)

I do lay out pretty well that the churches are corrupted... but there is plenty of evidense to suggest that even with the politics of man, the Bible is a divine book encoded with a brilliance we might only expect from a Creator...

especially since it tells us not to trust the spirits nor communicate with them...

among other things, many died to give everyone access to this book and take back the knowledge from the corrupted churches...

Protestants, according to some, are the only people who have successfully defeated the encroaching hegemony of tptb.

we are near a time when no one will be able to defeat them...

wishful thinking, even with free-energy devises...

we really need implosion devises and a good-sized Harrington event...

:)

Let's go solar flare! Let's go!

Ha!hope you like my sense of humor...
:)

OP, I didn't see any info on what John Lear is saying about Christ. Was he on C2C recently? Do you have a link? What is his position?

John, I don't think ET would mind if you or Sleeper became Christians, according to Lou's own testimony, however it does seem as if God might mind you beholden to ET... Bible calls these beings demons and Principalities...

gee, I wonder which choice is the safest, smartest choice?

:)

check back a few--John had the courtesy to lay it out for everyone...

that was cool!

:)

I wasn't always an anonymous coward: I got stuck with this for reasons I won't mention here...

read my entire post...

once a rebel always a rebel...

:)

I actually agree with John and love the spirit of his take on many things... however, I suppose John is not willing to take the ultimate stance of a rebel: Jesus Christ...

A Christ-centered system would look altruistic, compassionate, would likely not require tech to communicate, would an be agrarian, loving place where we would worship God and love each other as ourselves and move on with the approval of God into a beautiful eternity...

But John might get into trouble here in the material if he changed his mind and became a Christian... it was good enough for George Washington and others... but those days it was easier... John, you should check out Earthquake Kelly's interviews to see why protection can be afforded... and anyway, things apparently are better on the other side...

:)

On a brighter note: Christ does say that he did not come here for those who were already living a good life, but for those who were not...

John appears to be on the former track... maybe good works are enough... maybe...

but it might also be necessary to display true humility before God... to recognize the intelligent design of the Creator... to accept His will... so he can be sure he doesn't have another lucifer HAL 9000 mess... :)

The Lord's prayer comes to mind:

Our Father, who art in heaven
Hollowed be thy name,
Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done
On earth as it is in heaven,
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive those who trespass against us,
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil,
For thine is the Kingdom and the power
And the glory forever.
Amen.

Hmm... well might make you a good Jew. Unfortunately, no one has ever been able to follow these rules.

Here is what the early church (Peter, Paul, James) thought of it:


Acts 15:10

"...Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?..."

The Law was made for a nation that doesn't exist anymore. We don't follow 'law' but we are righteous by faith. That system was thrown out. Now, it is harder. Now, every day is the Sabbath.

You are heading down the road of great frustration.

Cheers!

19673183

Yo, there are only 10 commandments... I agree, salvation through Jesus Christ is a game-changer...

It's just me... if I can do something to honor God and the basic rules, I say: why not?

Especially in light of the evidense that the Vatical will sooner or later be mandating Sunday worship in the NWO religion... see Professor Veith's youtube on this...

I expect to be killed once the NWO take control...

:)

Not sure where anyone would get the idea that Paul invented Christ.

Maybe you should do some investigating on your own. You could start with the book of Isaiah in the Old Testament. Paul quotes it quite alot in his New Testament writings.

On Jesus' first day of his ministry, he quotes Isaiah's prophecy of a future new age, and baldly states that the prophecy is being fulfilled, here and now.

Isaiah has the famous "He shall lead His flock like a shepherd"... this metaphor is used again and again by Jesus during His ministry.

Also there is , "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son...God with us"... and "His name shall be called Prince of Peace, Son of God..."

Many, many more referenced as well. Isaiah was not written by Paul. It is Jewish book, kept intact by Jews, not Christians. Christians have just blindly accepted the Old Testament into their Scriptures (Jesus did, His disciples did, so why wouldn't Jesus' followers?)

The Dead Sea Scrolls have a first century copy of this book, entombed for two thousand years. Yet, the words are remarkably preserved. And upon inspection, you will find that the words are 97% identical to words in our Hebrew Bible, the translation of which we carry around every day.

Paul didn't touch it.

So, your claim is quite bizarre, really, when faced with this archeological find.

Because, all Christian doctrine can be found in this book, my friend. Read it for yourself.

Honoring God with rules is no good. Open that door and it will bite you.

We honor God every day, not just on Saturday (or rather Friday dusk to Saturday dusk).

The problem with following rules instead of walking in the Spirit is that you will never be satisfied, you will keep adding and adding new ones. Then you will not have the freedom to take action when God tells you to do something.
That is why it is called a 'snare' so many times in the New Testament. The law also "puffs up" as Paul says. Soon, after you learn to follow your self imposed rules, you begin to look at others and say, 'wow, I'm so cool! you suck!'.

It's all in Hebrews and Galatians.

Euthenasia Future, coded as: We are all One/ We create our reality

That reminds me, have any of you new agers thought about the logical conclusion of the supposed New Age? This didn't occur to me until I saw Ken Peters youtube... many of his visions have been happening and he sees a time coming where Christ-centered people and truth-seekers will be rounded up and beheaded, etc... :)

If you think about it, when they use HAARP to create global "end times" or if God brings it on, either way they will blame it on certain groups who are holding the rest of humanity back. I mean, we are all co-creating, according to new age jargon, right? so when tshf, seems like euthenasia might be a logical conclusion... people will be like: "them truthers is messing up my ball game and reality show! damn them somebody do something! Where's Hegel when you need him? Bring in the UN troops! Anything to keep the game snacks coming! can somebody pass me a friggin beer! and kill them mofo's while yer at it... nobody interupts "House!" Nobody!" :)

I don't even own a tv anymore...

there is ample evidense we are already being culled with the pollution in the foods, fluoride, chlorine, Fukushima, Gulf spill, chem-trails, GMOs, etc, etc...

next stop: End times!

how's that for GLP doom!

:):afro:

19673183

Word! Thanks for sharing... I have been reading first four books of NT... plan to hit the OT sooner or later, especially Daniel and Isaiah...

cheers!

I have a basic premise: follow Jesus Christ and His teachings.

That is enough. I just happen to like the 10 commandments.

I don't believe Christ was teaching to be holier than thou or express the ego in any way over others... altruism and love for God and fellow brothers and sisters:

Those are hard enough to live by. Everyday, all day--agreed.

:)

Hey John,

what does the pic behind you say--looks arabic?

:)