"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire | |
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ISO User ID: 1557341 United States 11/21/2012 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. |
Sesquipedalian User ID: 22970317 United States 11/21/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. |
littlemiracles User ID: 8637765 United States 11/21/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. Got to let you know I agree with you... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16402515 United States 11/21/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. Got to let you know I agree with you... this to infinity |
Solidlift User ID: 1850606 United States 11/21/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. Got to let you know I agree with you... this to infinity Agreed. Israel is showing the World that they tried the peaceful route. They and We all know Hamas doesn't give a rat's ass about peace. Hamas will be lobbing rockets and who knows what else again soon. This is far from over, and we all know the only way to end this is to ELIMINATE radical Muslims. "You sumbitches couldn't close an umbrella..." -Sheriff Buford T. Justice |
~JustMe~ User ID: 18606339 United States 11/21/2012 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24717484 United States 11/21/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This cease fire was a calculated move on the part of IDF. |
ISO User ID: 1557341 United States 11/21/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This ceasefire wont last long...DO NOT BE FOOLED... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28174403 Israel knows it needs to take over Gaza if it EVER wants to confront Iran... I' dont give it more than 3 days... You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. Got to let you know I agree with you... Through all of this, I was surprised by Obama's apparent support. That was proven hollow when the report came out today explaining how Bibi decided to go ahead with the ground invasion, and Obama stopped him, under threat of withholding military support in the future. I am surprised Netanyahu backed down. I didn't think he would after the history those two have together. I thought it was Netanyahu's moment to shove it up his ass. Instead, for some reason, Netanyahu bent over with no resistance. |
ISO User ID: 1557341 United States 11/21/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the Aussie Jihad Minister: Give it a rest. In reality, Gaza took a fucking beating for the ages. It was EPIC. The beatdown is going to be used as educational film for huge explosions. The only problem is that Israel was betrayed by Obama, and Israel had to let you guys off the hook. It's a minor victory for Gaza in that it still exists as it did before, but Hamas leadership took a fucking beating, and Israel didn't really even have to do much. Not really a victory at all. You lost 150 people, and still live in shithouse prison, under the thumb of Israel. Nice victory! Last Edited by ISO on 11/21/2012 09:17 PM |
Solidlift User ID: 1850606 United States 11/21/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised Netanyahu backed down. I didn't think he would after the history those two have together. I thought it was Netanyahu's moment to shove it up his ass. Instead, for some reason, Netanyahu bent over with no resistance. Yeah, somehtin' else goin' on here. I really thought the same thing. This was the perfect time to say "we don't really need you're blessing... now is the time" Somethin's up. "You sumbitches couldn't close an umbrella..." -Sheriff Buford T. Justice |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27736505 United States 11/21/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ISO You're wrong. Obama is the X factor many never realized would tip the scales. Obama is the destroyer of Israel. And he's gonna destroy Israel while looking like an ally to the retarded public. Got to let you know I agree with you... this to infinity Agreed. Israel is showing the World that they tried the peaceful route. They and We all know Hamas doesn't give a rat's ass about peace. Hamas will be lobbing rockets and who knows what else again soon. This is far from over, and we all know the only way to end this is to ELIMINATE radical Muslims. kill'em all and let God sort'em out. |
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ISO User ID: 1557341 United States 11/21/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised Netanyahu backed down. I didn't think he would after the history those two have together. I thought it was Netanyahu's moment to shove it up his ass. Quoting: Solidlift Instead, for some reason, Netanyahu bent over with no resistance. Yeah, somehtin' else goin' on here. I really thought the same thing. This was the perfect time to say "we don't really need you're blessing... now is the time" Somethin's up. Yeah, Obama threatened to cut military aid and cut Iron Domes in the future if Netanyahu went with the ground invasion (which Netanyahu gave the order for, and Obama stopped it in progress) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15041895 United States 11/21/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the Aussie Jihad Minister: Quoting: ISO Give it a rest. In reality, Gaza took a fucking beating for the ages. It was EPIC. The beatdown is going to be used as educational film for huge explosions. The only problem is that Israel was betrayed by Obama, and Israel had to let you guys off the hook. It's a minor victory for Gaza in that it still exists as it did before, but Hamas leadership took a fucking beating, and Israel didn't really even have to do much. Not really a victory at all. You lost 150 people, and still live in shithouse prison, under the thumb of Israel. Nice victory! This... For better or worse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1964511 United States 11/21/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the Aussie Jihad Minister: Quoting: ISO Give it a rest. In reality, Gaza took a fucking beating for the ages. It was EPIC. The beatdown is going to be used as educational film for huge explosions. The only problem is that Israel was betrayed by Obama, and Israel had to let you guys off the hook. It's a minor victory for Gaza in that it still exists as it did before, but Hamas leadership took a fucking beating, and Israel didn't really even have to do much. Not really a victory at all. You lost 150 people, and still live in shithouse prison, under the thumb of Israel. Nice victory! "still live in shithouse prison, under the thumb of Israel." WOW! |
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Ashton's Succulent volvo User ID: 3199014 United States 11/21/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, dream on, little goat-rapist. While it's way too early to say anthing conclusively.... preminarily speaking, this is an ISRAELI Win --- not Hamas: 1) There were NO "opening of the gates of Hell" as Hamas and Islamic Jihad promised. All those billions of dollars invested into Hamas over the many years by Iran, Syria, KSA/Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood.... all those Iranian "super-dooper" Al-Qods Forces & IRGC advisors that buil=d state-of-the-art weapons factories, depots, bunkers, Centcom facilities.... plus shitload of advanced Russia weaponry smuggled into the tunnels first during Mubarak reign, then even more so under Morsi.......... WERE FOR NAUGHT. Aside from that stupd Habad family that failed to heed the IDF warning and go into the stairwell where they would have been protected instead of standing by the window.... There weren't 100's of Jewish casualties that Hamas were hoping for by firing 1300 upgraded Chinese Grads & Fajr-3, Fajr-5 into city centers. There was no economic paralysis or depression. Even under fire Israelis continued on going about their lives in cities; in fact many Israelis were foolishly gawking at the Iron Dome show as if it was a soccer match & partying hardy like the usually do. 2) The more talented Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders like Ahmed Ja'abari and Raed al-Atar were almost totally eliminated. The rest were hiding among children, trembling like rats they are. Big rocket launchers???? Gone. Infrastructure, bank, gas lines, parliament, ministry of Interio & other symbols of Hamas power? Gone. This will take years and more billions of dollars to rebuild to rebuild. 3) Israel didn't lose a SINGLE drone, nevermind a single tank, a helicopter or a jet --- despite dozens of atttempts by Hamas to down one using sophisticated Russian Igla-S, Strela supplied by Iran and smuiggled from Qaddafi's stash in Lybia. Not a single Israeli tank lost -- even thoughb they were parked for days on end right on the Gaza border --- well, within the range of RPG-29, RPG-30, nevemind the ATGM like Kornet, Metis-M or Milan that have an effective range of 5 miles! Normally Hamas has no problem shooting ATGM at Israeli jeep patrols, but this time they were quite as a mouse, ahaha, Hamas totally PUSSIED OUT firing at Israeli tanks even from a safe distance of 5 miles inside Gaza buildings! 4) Iron Dome is a brand new system created by Israel in record short period of time... still lots to improve & modify. There were only 4 batteres in the beginning of this conflict instead of the planned 13-15 needed for full covertage. And they intercepted 90% of the Gaza missiles projected to cause the most damage in city centers, which is one of the reasons Israeli casualties were so low (the dead Habad woman was in a place NOT covered by Iron Dome yet). 5) But it gets even better: the 5th Iron Dome battery had to be rushed through develpment 3 months ahead of schedule because of this conflict. And it intercepted 10 Fajr-5 rockets which is incredible because Iron Dome originally wasn't even designed for intercept of expensive large rockets like Zelzal or Fajr-5. That's a game-changer. There are rumours now that all the countries who were initially skeptical about Iron Dome's feasibility, are now EXTREMELY interested in buying it, including South Korea, Singapur, Colombia, the US of course. So not only is Iron Dome's cost off-set by American military assistence as well as separate Congressional out-lays ------> once Israel starts selling this system, it will make substantial PROFIT.... which will be reinvested back into the ID program R&D, as well as into ever more advanced SAM systems like Magic Wand and Arrow-3 that initally were delayed because of budget issues. A win-win situation for Israel. 6) Further-more, the ENTIRE Israeli Military Industries benefitted from the surgical operations --- it proved that Israeli weapons work as advertised, not just Iron Dome, but electronic warfare, fancy SIGINT, ELINT equipment; the C-Music system protecting against MANPADS; the Spike NLOS that brilliantly took out 4 Islamic Jihad commanders hiding in the media complex building room without harming the civilians in that building.... the various small drones that were hunting preveiously unreachable Jihadi leadership & sophisticated under-ground rcoket launchers.... etc, etc, etc. Expect BILLIONS of dollars in new contracts for Israeli weapons signed in the next year.... big boost to the economy. 7) For all their never-ending Islamic bluster about how they will defend Gaza from Zionist Aggressor... but Iran and Hezbollah elected to SHUT THE FUCK UP & SIT THE FUCK DOWN. In fact, reportedly Hezbollah were using their operatives in South Lebanon in policing capacity -- lest God forbid, some Palistinian sympathizer fired a Grad rocket from Lebanese soil --- thus inviting Israel to kick some major Hezbollah ass again (an 8:1 ration during 2nd lebanese war in favor of IDF -- and billions of dollars in damage, which even Hassan Nasrallah regretted on TV afterwards...so much for Israel "losing" the war....) 8) Israel managed to make Obama, Hillary Clinton and Mohamma Morsi virtual GUARANTORS of a cease-fire & smuggling tunnel control. So now, neither US nor Egypt can afford to look the other way like they used to -- and risk totally discrediting themselves on the world stage, as well as being blamed for any renewal of violence. As Hillary Clinton alluded today, US in particular, can dangle its billion-dollar aid to Egypt & loan guarantees that Egypt desperately needs in order to feed its almost 90 million population as they run out of currency reserves. It's called LEVERAGE with capital '$' :) 9) Israes does NOT have to open border crossing into OR lift the arms-blockade. Certainly not in the near-future. Thus limiting Iran's ability to rebuild Gaza terror infrastructure as uuickly as they want to. 10) Israel got Islamic Jihad, Hamas AND Iran themselves to admit that Iran WAS the supplier of advanced weaponry & the decision-maker behind attacks on Israeli civilians. I mean, we all knew that, but Iran denied it, and there was no HARD proof. Now there IS proof. That is casus belli ----- thus paving legal & legitimate way for Israel to strike Iran's nuke program & regime in the near future. Thanks Ali Larijani, thanks Khaled Meshaal for your big mouth. 11) Nentanyahu did NOT get boggged down in a (very expensive) Gaza Ground-War Quagmire ----> not only did that preserve Israel's strong High-tech economy.....but it also will preempt the future criticism from his political rivals in the Left-wing that Bibi is a "warmonger". Bibi totally painted Shelley Yachimovich and Social Justice crowd into a corner, consigned them to Election irrelevancy --- just when Obama hoped that the seemingly resurrgent Israeli Labor could win elections and get rid of Obama's nemesis Netanyahu.... Not so fast, Barack Husseinovch, LOL! 12) Israel as a whole looks like REASONABLE country that is open to cease-fire --- as opposed to what Israel's critics & haters wanted to see happen: a Russian Grozny Siego type of carpet-bombing campaign on Gaza which would have opened Israel up to charges of Crimes against Humanirt & led to re-newed B.D.S camaign. 13) Israel got to TEST just how coordinated the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah-Islamic Jihad-Hamas-PRC "Resistance" axis was. Suffice it to say, it was a big letdown for the Axis. 14) Israel was much better at PR than in previous war. Using Youtube and creative new media, Israel supplied ample proof of just how BARBARIC, EVIL and FANATICAL Hamas and other Islamists really are. Even Hamas supporters in the West no longer dare to use the old "oh Hamas builds schools, they are legitimate democratic government, they don't hide behind human shields, blablabla" Bullshit -----> at best, they now prefer to avoid the Hamas topic altogether. That's big -- because in 2008/2009, they were screaming Israel Genocide Hamas aaarrrrhghgghgh! 15) Israel stunned Hamas and Iran with how PRECISE its intelligence was on location of the terror leaders, infrastructure, massive underground weapons depots. Hamas was so shocked, so paranoid they tried to execute random "collaborators" ---- thus making themselves look like idiots & savages for all the world media. Again, even their former supporters in the West aren't as vocal in their defense of Hamas pointless, knee-jerk brutality and massive lies...... 16) Bibi can now concentrate on Elections... then on Iran, which as the Saudi King Abdullah said on those classified Wikileaks cables, is the REAL head of the snake..... 17) If rockets don't stop over the next few days/weeks... then IDF will have a legitimate excuse to give an even bigger pounding to Gaza, without it looking like Bibi's "pre-election stunt". 18) Let Hamas clowns celebrate their empty "winning" ala Charlie Sheen. That only further highlights the difference between THEM and US: despite succesful missions, IDF is genuinely regretting the loss of civilian lives on BOTH sides ---- while retarded Jihadists in Gaza are reveling in their own HUMAN SHIELDS babies & women being killed. The world is watching this abomnination and slowly realizing that Hamas are FAR from "noble freedom-fighters" as per Muslim oil-funded propaganda would have them believe.... Um... again... just as Saddam promised the Mother of all Battles.... the Hamas "Gates of Hell" was a big FAIL!!! Oooops. LMAO...did you see that Aussie? How much time you think he spent on that garbage? And you're probably not even going to read it. ROFL Actually it took me about 25 minutes to bang it out. Hence the myriad spelling mistakes (plus, English is not my native tongue). np: "The Protocols of the Wenches of Zarathustra" -- Rihanna feat. Auto-tune. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2262959 Canada 11/21/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am surprised Netanyahu backed down. I didn't think he would after the history those two have together. I thought it was Netanyahu's moment to shove it up his ass. Quoting: Solidlift Instead, for some reason, Netanyahu bent over with no resistance. Yeah, somehtin' else goin' on here. I really thought the same thing. This was the perfect time to say "we don't really need you're blessing... now is the time" Somethin's up. Yeah, Obama threatened to cut military aid and cut Iron Domes in the future if Netanyahu went with the ground invasion (which Netanyahu gave the order for, and Obama stopped it in progress) Firstly. The iron dome was developed in Israel, not the US. Secondly, Obama did not stop anything. Netanyahu is a big boy, and does not need to take orders from an American president. Israel will defend itself when it sees fit. There's nothing else that's 'up' its pretty straightforward. If Hamas starts more rocket attacks Israel will resume its campaign, end of story. |
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