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Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'

 
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12/04/2012 01:30 PM
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Hmm, sounds like they aim to build a ring favelas around their nice cities. If they had ever lived next to one of those hell holes in S America, they would seriously think twice about how wise it is to let yourself be totally surrounded by that sort of environment. Might be wiser to have 'those people' (the ones who aren't convicted as real criminals, just your obnoxious lowlifes) remain diluted across the rest of the city so they do not gain the critical mass needed to completely take over. We know where the 'round em up and segregate them in slums' approach will end up, and it ain't a winning strategy for any of us, because in the end, we will all be considered disposable scum. Some places its already like that - like Somalia. Really want to live there? Buy a plane ticket.
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12/04/2012 01:32 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
We should do that here too...if you have more than two tattoos, criminal record, black or Mexican, you should be moved to the scum village :)
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What if the tattoos are hidden?
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That's ok then, what I'm talking about is this:







:tattoosarepretty:
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There's a guy who doesn't want a job.
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12/04/2012 01:35 PM
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They need to stop down grading people and treating them like animals. Social engineering - treat people like criminals, they'll act like it.

Its time to try the reverse. Start treating people with respect.
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Well said. Here is one of my favorite quotes which happens to be attributable to Audry Hepburn.

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"One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson

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12/04/2012 01:38 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
I am all for this and wish they would do that here, why should respectful people have to suffer...if these people can't live in peace with us then by all means round em up and ship em out.
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12/04/2012 01:53 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
We should do that here too...if you have more than two tattoos, criminal record, black or Mexican, you should be moved to the scum village :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


Oh, come on Brief...I am your most loyal fan on GLP. You would actually send me off to one of these villages because I have more than 2 tattoos ? My tattoos are well hidden, discreet, and beautiful.
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12/04/2012 01:54 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Amsterdam is to create "Scum villages" where nuisance neighbours and anti-social tenants will be exiled from the city and rehoused in caravans or containers with "minimal services" under constant police supervision.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: DoorBert


This is very old bs news.

This so called scum village contain eight (8) container homes & the scum that lives there is very happy - & so are their neighbor(hood)s they used to terrorize
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12/04/2012 01:58 PM
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Hmm, sounds like they aim to build a ring favelas around their nice cities. If they had ever lived next to one of those hell holes in S America, they would seriously think twice about how wise it is to let yourself be totally surrounded by that sort of environment. Might be wiser to have 'those people' (the ones who aren't convicted as real criminals, just your obnoxious lowlifes) remain diluted across the rest of the city so they do not gain the critical mass needed to completely take over. We know where the 'round em up and segregate them in slums' approach will end up, and it ain't a winning strategy for any of us, because in the end, we will all be considered disposable scum. Some places its already like that - like Somalia. Really want to live there? Buy a plane ticket.
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Most here don't live in or see reality...lol.
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12/04/2012 02:09 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Well, just so long as they don't put any Jews in these ghettos, I guess it's okay.
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THIS!! My first thought was of the Warsaw ghetto...
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12/04/2012 02:13 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
We should do that here too...if you have more than two tattoos, criminal record, black or Mexican, you should be moved to the scum village :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


This works great as long as no one gains control who is a Mexican-Black hybrid with 25 tats and a long record...

Then guess who goes in the ghetto!
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12/04/2012 02:18 PM
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That's really funny. Because I am the most social person I know. I buy my neighbors taco's and I talk to everybody I see on the bus. And I always ask girls what they're reading. But nobody ever wants to talk to me.

So maybe they can give me a nice big condo and a lot of grass and I can go chill out in the mountains.
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12/04/2012 02:19 PM

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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Maybe we should adopt this aswell.
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In America they would have to split the country in two and send half of the population aprox.
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We already have. That is the South has a different mind set compared to the East. As far as what they are doing if it works it would allow for more taxes for education and social benefits. I don't like gov. involved, I would like to see people make chooses for themselves, where they chose live. The problem with this is the violent criminal element steals and kills and causes problems with the the people who are trying to stay away from them. It is eighter prison or guarded communities or death. I would choose to do this in my community for violent offenders, non violent offenders should not be put in these areas of confinement. We will find out if this works. Those who oppose this idea should work in the confined areas to rehabilitate these indivudals to see how that works for them..
 Quoting: nzreva


And Obama is moving in the opposite direction. His HHS department is trying to force some peaceful communities to build cheap ("affordable") housing requiring changes in zoning, and move in dark skinned people ("fair housing").

Even if the market chooses segregation (anyone of any skin color can buy houses in these commuities if they want to and have the money) Obama wants to change the natural outcome if it isn't racially and economically integrated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747


I am not talking about skin color, I am talking about violent criminals. Second the supreme court has not ruled on this yet, and lastly the Gov. has never been able to enforce our collection of taxes and child support on and on it goes. Because it is on a piece of paper and it is a law does not mean anyone will pay any attention to it. The rich have lawyers to do whatever they want, if I don't like my neighborhood I will sell and move.
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12/04/2012 02:40 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Well, just so long as they don't put any Jews in these ghettos, I guess it's okay.
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THIS!! My first thought was of the Warsaw ghetto...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1859992


Yes, and this is why moving so called scum to another neighborhood is scary. Who actually decides who is scum? It could be any of us because of certain looks, beliefs whatever.
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12/04/2012 02:41 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Maybe we should adopt this aswell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29048814


In America they would have to split the country in two and send half of the population aprox.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


The US is already split. Its the north and the south. Guess which side is the scum?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1328514


You are scum for suggesting that everyone in a certain region believes the same or acts the same.Some people are born in one region and don't have the means to live any other place.Why judge me and my family for living some place we don't agree with.It's not fair.
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12/04/2012 03:01 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Standard Daily Telegraph bullshit.

But hey what to expect from scum like Rupert Murdoch.

Dutch source;

[link to www.trouw.nl]

In short, there are people who produce a lot of problems for their neighbors (think loud music at night in an appartmentblock, threatening neighbors etc. etc.), due to how Dutch law works they can't just be kicked out to the street easily.

What is proposed is essentially moving them (after several warnings and most likely a lawsuit) to a trailer park for 6 months before they can get back in a public housing unit. As for "minimal services" it's proposed to be near industrial sites and such so you won't live close by to for example supermakets, doctors etc. (keep in mind they will still live in Amsterdam so these services would still be within like 3 to 5 miles max).

All in all can't say I disagree with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


That's the same thing the Telegraph article said. Trouble makers in council housing.

It's a great idea.

I'll bet most are immigrants. Amiright?
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12/04/2012 03:14 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Hmm, sounds like they aim to build a ring favelas around their nice cities. If they had ever lived next to one of those hell holes in S America, they would seriously think twice about how wise it is to let yourself be totally surrounded by that sort of environment. Might be wiser to have 'those people' (the ones who aren't convicted as real criminals, just your obnoxious lowlifes) remain diluted across the rest of the city so they do not gain the critical mass needed to completely take over. We know where the 'round em up and segregate them in slums' approach will end up, and it ain't a winning strategy for any of us, because in the end, we will all be considered disposable scum. Some places its already like that - like Somalia. Really want to live there? Buy a plane ticket.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342985


Since when have the favelas ever used their high ground to conquer the wealthy part of one of those cities? Never heard of that.

But the favelas are more economic, they have low property values. They don't have a history of being dumping grounds for criminals that I know of, just poor people in a place with vast numbers of poor people.
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12/04/2012 04:12 PM
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Amsterdam is to create "Scum villages"
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'Bout time!


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12/04/2012 04:15 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Hmm, sounds like they aim to build a ring favelas around their nice cities. If they had ever lived next to one of those hell holes in S America, they would seriously think twice about how wise it is to let yourself be totally surrounded by that sort of environment. Might be wiser to have 'those people' (the ones who aren't convicted as real criminals, just your obnoxious lowlifes) remain diluted across the rest of the city so they do not gain the critical mass needed to completely take over. We know where the 'round em up and segregate them in slums' approach will end up, and it ain't a winning strategy for any of us, because in the end, we will all be considered disposable scum. Some places its already like that - like Somalia. Really want to live there? Buy a plane ticket.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342985


Well, in the United States, it started out with what were called "projects" (government housing) and those places became filthy, violent ghettos because of the dirtbags that lived there. Quite a few of those projects were torn down and those dirtbags moved out into the greater society, using Section 8 vouchers to subsidize their rent. So we went from having the dirtbags contained to their own neighborhoods to having them infesting far greater expanses of space, degrading every neighborhood they move into.

What we have in the US is called "white flight", where white people move away from the areas going downhill and then they become the next violent filthy ghettos. That's how Detroit got where it is. Perhaps, if we had moved the dirtbags back into projects and contained them there, white flight would not have occurred and places like Detroit would still vibrant and beautiful.
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12/04/2012 04:23 PM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
They need to stop down grading people and treating them like animals. Social engineering - treat people like criminals, they'll act like it.

Its time to try the reverse. Start treating people with respect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29023577


Well said. Here is one of my favorite quotes which happens to be attributable to Audry Hepburn.

"People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone." - Audrey Hepburn

 Quoting: Nikola Tesla


The US had bent over backwards for minorities with affirmative action (reverse racism). So much so that qualified people are turned away from government employment to fill quotas for unqualified minorities. They still suck off the system and their communities are still filled with violent crime. Scandinavia, where the people are naive and good hearted, have welcomed in north Africans who have gone on a rape and murder rampage against the indigenous women. Scandinavia was, not that long ago, virtually crime free, and now girls and women aren't safe to walk home at night. This multicultural bullshit is NOT working and giving people respect who do not deserve it only destroys decent communities.
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12/05/2012 02:55 AM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
...so...

Not very racist in here at all, is it..?
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12/05/2012 03:07 AM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
I will move there and open the "Scum Bar" :))
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12/05/2012 04:20 AM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
We should do that here too...if you have more than two tattoos, criminal record, black or Mexican, you should be moved to the scum village :)
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Bullets are cheaper.
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That's the better solution...
 Quoting: BRIEF


most of my trash neighbors in amsterdam were WHITE
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12/05/2012 04:26 AM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Just wait, your neighborhood is soon next. haha!
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12/05/2012 04:26 AM
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most of my trash neighbors in amsterdam were WHITE
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You told them ?

Or where you just the average anonymous coward, like here ?
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most of my trash neighbors in amsterdam were WHITE
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You told them ?

Or where you just the average anonymous coward, like here ?
 Quoting: McBright 913721


of course i told them. asked them to lower music and they turned it up.

dutch are pussies and need dutch courage = alcohol

most dutch are antisocial
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12/05/2012 04:42 AM
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
antisocial behaviour in amsterdam is defended by the group

dutch are weak and support perpetrators out of fear. victim is targeted

in the netherlands people support the one who is being antisocial and not following the rules
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antisocial behaviour in amsterdam is defended by the group

dutch are weak and support perpetrators out of fear. victim is targeted

in the netherlands people support the one who is being antisocial and not following the rules
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28914510

You prove to be the one that is not part of the group.

You had the right to play your music loud too... you didn't use the right.

That's how it works in the Netherlands.

Don't like the neighbourhood ? Move ! Come on, move !
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
Oh. The ghettos.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
antisocial behaviour in amsterdam is defended by the group

dutch are weak and support perpetrators out of fear. victim is targeted

in the netherlands people support the one who is being antisocial and not following the rules
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28914510

You prove to be the one that is not part of the group.

You had the right to play your music loud too... you didn't use the right.

That's how it works in the Netherlands.

Don't like the neighbourhood ? Move ! Come on, move !
 Quoting: McBright 913721


i already moved dumbass. live in USA. people here turn music down when you ask

i never played music loud in amsterdam and if someone complained i would turn it down out of respect for neighbours.

in the netherlands the group supports the antisocial because dutch are weak and are FEAR-based. they'd rather tolerate noise than stand up to the aggressor. dutch courage = booze (for a reason)

i saw it so many times in amsterdam with neighbours fighting. i would observe the behaviour. dutch are assholes, not only Moroccans

your society is doomed because you never deal directly with problems

'niks aan te doen'

at least where i live now people stop making noise when you ask. americans are not as antisocial as dutch. the netherlands is unliveable. it's a zoo.
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
you know what dutch say

'i have no problem with noise'

then what they do

passive aggressive

they throw a party to get back at noise maker

dutch claim to be direct but they are passive-aggressive shame-based society.

group mentality just like asians

mooooooooooooooooooo
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Re: Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'
antisocial behaviour in amsterdam is defended by the group

dutch are weak and support perpetrators out of fear. victim is targeted

in the netherlands people support the one who is being antisocial and not following the rules
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28914510

You prove to be the one that is not part of the group.

You had the right to play your music loud too... you didn't use the right.

That's how it works in the Netherlands.

Don't like the neighbourhood ? Move ! Come on, move !
 Quoting: McBright 913721


What a fucking knob end you are. Talking absolute shit again.

So what you're saying, is the way it works in the netherlands is basically one big, massive arsehole-fest. If you're a dick, then i'll be an even bigger dick...

...fuck off, you thick cunt.
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