MOTIVE??? What was Adam Lanza's MOTIVE??? Why is no-one discussing this? No crime is committed without a motive. OR DID ADAM NOT DO THIS CRIME?

The PTB would not think twice about mowing down 20 children and a handful of adults and blaming it on some misfit computer geek, any more than they thought twice about obliterating the twin towers and the 3,000 people in them. It's all towards a 'higher agenda', and the collateral damage is just that -- collateral damage. For people who've suppressed their empathy and conscience, the ends easily justify the means. If slaughtering 20 children can justify disarming the American public and making them generally more compliant through fear, then so be it.

Rudy Guilliani makes my stomach turn at the best of times. I have not been able to see him without feeling squeamish since 9/11.

Yes, I believe it does. Disarm the world's population. Then there can be no real opposition. The second amendment stands in the way of that.

The title says it all. What was the young man's motive??? Why did he shoot up a room full of children and kill the principal and psychologist and other teachers?


New details--pointing to motive

Thread: More detail on MOTIVE--Newtown Massacre

How convenient that the teachers he supposedly had an altercation with are now dead. Is there a link to this information?

That's what I thought too, NOW they are saying they can't link the MOTHER to the school at all!!!!!!!

Lots of people get jealous for all kinds of reasons, but it doesn't give them motivation to kill 26 people who have little or nothing to do with the jealousy. In any case, the mother-as-teacher motive is dead in the water. She was never a teacher, and she was also known to have been very loving, supportive and sociable. I can't imagine that this child (Adam) was not demonstrably as loved by his mother as any other 20-year-old permits himself to be.

I also noticed the emphasis on the whole "mental illness" angle. I was at home watching tv when the whole thing started and they broke in with the story..being a GLPer I immediately watched for the whole gun control theme to get thrown out there instantly (which naturally, it did) but it seemed like they were giving the mental illness thing equal time. Not to mention that they DID make a pretty big deal about what a conspiracy nut Loughner supposedly was as well..Makes you wonder..

I can see plenty of possible motives. He was an awkward kid who it sounds like was pretty much left alone in high school BUT I bet that would not be the case in elementary school....kids probably picked on him as kids would do. Its very possible this left a great imprint on his mind.

Lots of assumptions there, AC. Any evidence that he was picked on in school? Certainly no evidence of revenge fantasies anywhere -- no history of violence, no police record, nothing.

All we've got definitively on Adam is that he was exceptionally bright and was good with computers. Computer geeks tend by nature to be loners or at least not to be dating cheerleaders and hanging out at bars. How does this fit the profile of a mass murderer?

It's the same motive that has been at play for hundreds if not thousands of years and very few of you will understand this.

What was the motive of Jared Loughner?

What were those strange "huts" in his backyard?

Consider the French "Revolution" and the Red Terror -- who were the primary actors in each of those?

Why do we assume all terrorists are Muslims with dark skin?

How easy it would have been to kill Adam and his mother at their home, dump 90-pounds-wringing-wet Adam into a kit bag, throw him into the back of the mother's car along with all of the guns, smash into the school and start shooting, dump Adam's body on the floor along with one of the guns, and skedaddle out of there amidst all of the confusion.


Trained killers would be happy to carry out this mission. You don't have to be 'MK Ultra', just a crack-shot who'll do anything for $$$. There are enough of those in the world (not necessarily American, but reasonably could be).

OP,

He hated everyone else and himself.

Do you think there is some other magic answer?

There is no evidence of that. I'm not looking for a 'magic answer'. I'm simply pointing out that the facts, as they are known of Adam Lanza, do not add up to killer let alone mass killer.

Gotta say I'm not a huge fan of humanity myself, but that doesn't instantly equal going to a kindergarten and mowing down a bunch of kids. I have no doubt that there are profoundly disturbed people out there that might do something like this, but it makes no sense that he was so depressed he went to a school that (apparently) had little to no connection to him to do it. Why not just go to any public area nearby and kill people if that was your goal?

It's the weird details that make this so fishy.

Last Edited by 'Lil Lee Harvey on 12/15/2012 11:51 AM

Yes, very fishy.

However, from the PTB's perspective -- killing 20 kids at school a week before Christmas holidays will get a lot more bang for your buck than killing 20, 40 or even 100 adults. The shock value is higher, especially at a time of year that is meant for children. This massacre will resonate for a long time and may even result in the passage of a gun-control bill that directly references the killings, either by using the name of the town or the school.

what was the motive...that IS the question

however the killer was not a sharpshooter (missed most of his targets at close range) nor masked

and late teen-ish do go crazy all the time, check out when narcissism becomes "permenant"

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LOL!!! Your lecturing ME on assumptions?? You concocted some sort of Hollywood script where the men in black swooped in killed adam and his mother and then shot up a school full of kindergarden kids.....and your trying to talk to me about evidence??

Just like the crime shows, always aske WHO BENEFITS THE MOST FROM THIS CRIME?

The shooting-up of the school full of kids is not fantasy. It's reality. However, right now it's only speculation that Adam did it, just as it's speculation that Adam killed his mother, drove her car to the school, donned a mask, and then killed 25 more people and himself. No-one actually saw him do it. They only found him dead after the fact, wearing a mask and presumably holding a gun. Or so the story goes.

It just as likely that, instead of Adam, someone else did everything attributable to him. In fact, it's more likely, as Adam had no history of violence.

Exactly.

Just a theory...the mother had a bunch of guns because she was in fear. Maybe the whole GE tax and libor scandal are tied together. Maybe there was two shooters at the school that day but the shooter that shot the mother, Adam, and the children got away. It will be interesting to see who the parents of the children in those two class rooms are and if they are tied into the whole GE tax and libor scandal. Seems like someone is targeting the children of these people.

Interesting, but I don't believe it was purely a corporate mafia hit. This is getting far too much coverage in the MSM, and they never play things up to this extent unless they're trying to hammer something home (i.e., guns = dangerous; no guns = safe).

I posted this on the other thread:

Like many of you, I was glued to the television yesterday as the "information" on this horrible event became public. BEFORE the name of the supposed "gunman" was announced on live television, we were repetitively told that he was 20 years old- over and over on multiple different "news" networks. Then we were (incorrectly) given his name as "Ryan" Lanza. More than ninety minutes passed before we were told that the gunman's identity was incorrect and was really "Adam" Lanza. The "error" was due to the fact that Adam was in possession of Ryan's ID.
So HOW did the Media know that the "gunman" was 20 years old while at that very time they were told the Gunman was "Ryan" Lanza? Bigger question- How did the "information" source to the media know that the "gunman" was 20 years old at the same time that they believed the gunman was 24 year old Ryan Lanza? There's one obvious answer to this troubling question that I will save for a followup post. I'm interested in the opinions of some of the excellent minds on this thread. Shills and trolls need not apply.

this also occurred to me! They had the age right the whole time, but the wrong person....I remember because at first they were speculating he was a father of one of the children, they were all commenting that it was odd since he would have to have been a father at fifteen to have had a child in that classroom. If they were identifying him from the ID on him that was supposedly his brotheres they would have said 24 from the outset instead.

Last Edited by 'Lil Lee Harvey on 12/15/2012 02:26 PM

So many co-incidences between this and the Australian Martin Bryant case. Both classed as clinacally mentally uncapable. Brant had aspergus, Adam had autism. \

Both were not trained in military type weapons yet seem to have killed numerous people with seemingly pin point accuracy?

Both in my mind are/were government propaganda to bring in new gun laws. Which was successful here in Australia. If you read into the bryant case, new gun laws were being brought in before this even happened. It would have taken 12-18 months to bring in these new laws. But then BINGO we have a killer on the loose in Port Arthur. Then these new laws are literally brought in overnight???

Suspicious or just a co-incidence??? you decide

[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.

Hey Oswaldkovsky- the OBVIOUS here is that the information source was following a script mixed with real investigative discovery. The script writers did NOT anticipate that Adam had Ryan's ID (probably used it to purchase alcohol?).

If anyone else has an explanation that falls in line with the "official" story, let's hear it. Every time I start to write one, it gets ridiculously unbelievable.

Certainly, when put into context, one could ultimately determine that the likeliness of him being used as a dupe, or being programed, is quite high. Compare this to other shootings like Aurora Colorado, and we start to see clear similarity's. Young men who seem very unlikely to carry out the act, who somehow received/purchased ammo, bulletproof vests, guns, which would constitute a small arsenal. Who some how were able to shoot innocent people at quite close range, which is a feat that sometimes even trained military personal have trouble accomplishing (shooting high phenomena).


Witnesses claim to have seen multiple shooters (same thing happened in Colorado), then it was washed from the media after the "official story" was pronounced.

FoxNews reported that this second gunman was "led out of the woods by officers" and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said "Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out..."

ABC News also originally reported, "A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway."

The shooter Adam Lanza, was supposedly carrying his brothers identification, which is another strange occurrence.



Now put this in context with the known actions of the CIA, which through declassified CIA documents, has been uncovered.

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]

As surmised by Colin A. Ross MD, these procedures of creating alternate personality's, and DID (dissociative identity disorder) in victims during experiments, is well documented.

People who were normally afraid to use guns, turned into hardened shooters, since the programming takes hold when they are given the "key word".

Here is a good example of just what these experiments uncovered.

Another ARTICHOKE document describes "Analogous Case #3." "A CIA Security Office employee was hypnotized and given a false identity. She defended it hotly, denying her true name and rationalizing with conviction the possession of identity cards made out to her real self. Later, having had the false identity erased by suggestion, she was asked if she had ever heard of the name she had been defending as her own five minutes before. She thought, shook her head, and said, ‘That's a pseudo if I ever heard one.' Apparently she had true amnesia for the entire episode." P. 32, 33

This would explain why he was using his brothers ID, possibly they wanted to frame up the entire family in one go.

The same with the Aurora shooting, where the shooter claimed to be "the joker" according to some media outlets.


For the sake of brevity, I will leave it at this, but please, go to this site, and research these matters for yourself. This is not wild speculation, these experiments DID, and very likely still do take place.

This was uncovered through documents seized in court cases, and committee hearings, such as the Church Committee investigation into the CIA.

Information on CIA Project Bluebird:
[link to www.wanttoknow.info]

Hey Mr. School Psychiatrist, you should be fire for believing any kids should be put on psychiatric drugs. Those drugs nearly crippled me and I wasn't even a child! You do your job for money not for the kids! Psychiatrists could care less about their patients, they care about making money for pharma companies. They have psychiatrists swallowing any vague mental issue and definition they can think of for the psychiatric industry to make money from, like the term ADHD. You put kids on drugs for being different and use them to be profited from so everyone in society can be a good student and worker who doesn't think or do anything original. Psychiatry is just as disgusting as the massacre.

Severe withdrawal from psychiatric drugs is worse than any from illegal street drugs! Getting on meds in the first place makes people kill. Thorazine made me suicidal for the first time in my life! Try staying up for days straight from SSRI withdrawal with no sleep and see how good you feel, Mr. School Psychiatrist!