Sandy Hook - The "Survivor" from Ms. Rousseau's Class

That ain't me, babe.

Now all this time the media and police have been saying over and over ....."all weapons were LEGALLY registered to Nancy"

ROFLMAO really? Explain the highly ILLEGAL shotgun ?

You know what is odd.......on all that radio footage.....they say some room numbers or names......a few victims in the front maybe some in the kitchen....they NEVER say ANYTHING about the 2 classrooms........WHY????????????????????????????????

Sure did get quiet fast.......maybe getting close to the truth huh?

Wish I had an answer.

Sorry, I was watching Revenge. :)

I honestly have no idea of what to make of this right now. I'll keep working on it.

[link to northhaven.patch.com]

Police say there may be two shooters inside the school.
December 14, 2012


Update at 10:35 a.m. on Dec. 14

Law enforcement personnel are forming up to do a search through Sandy Hook School, according to information transmitted over the scanner. A state trooper says there’s a teacher and 18 students in the kitchen at the school.

Update at 10:30 a.m. on Dec. 14

FBI agents are on scene as police continue to investigate the shooting at Sandy Hook School. UConn EMS are also reportedly on scene, according to information transmitted over the scanner.

The vehicle police suspect to be owned by the alleged shooters is a Black Honda located in the parking lot.\\-------------

This article briefly follows the radio descriptions... more discrepancies to ponder??

Dead or alive?

And, where the hell is the kitchen supposed to be in this school?

[link to www.nhregister.com]

Newtown school shooting: Transcript of police, fire radio dispatch

Published: Friday, December 14, 2012

10:28: “Roger, Closet in the kitchen, you have some victims. Let us know, we’ll call the number so you know they’re coming.”------------


Another article with a short time-line, but matching the victims in a closet in the kitchen?? Until the post I have never seen any reference to the kitchen area for victims... remember Ms. Rousseau was oddly identified as not known where or how she died... the kitchen area has never been mentioned or identified by the mainstream press... so we have a wholly different crime scene then the one presented for mass consumption... and for what possible purpose did it serve to change the first-hand accounts?

I am still looking for a better description of the kitchen area....

"Sounds Mythic"

Because it IS MYTHIC...

USA...USA...USA...Wheeere Number One....

This Kid has the greatest Killed to Injured Ratio of ALL-TIME.

If that isn't Mythic, I don't know what is...


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A 26 to 1 ratio.

The next closest is St. Valentines Day Massacre with 7 to 1 Dead to Injured ratio.

Of Course, the photographs were too horrible to show to the public.

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St. Valentines Day Massacre
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
A 20 round Box Magazine, and a 50 Round Drum was used, for a total of 70 rounds and 2 shotgun blasts.

The One victim was shot 14 times and survived for 3 hours?

The two "police officers" then signaled to the pair in civilian clothes who had accompanied them. Two of the killers opened fire with Thompson sub-machine guns, one containing a 20-round box magazine and the other a 50-round drum. They were efficient, spraying their victims left and right, even continuing to fire after all seven had hit the floor. The seven men were ripped apart in the volley, and two shotgun blasts afterward all but obliterated the faces of John May and James Clark, according to the coroner's report.

To give the appearance that everything was under control, the men in street clothes came out with their hands up, prodded by the two uniformed police officers. Inside the garage, the only survivors in the warehouse were Highball (May's German Shepherd) and Frank Gusenberg. Despite fourteen bullet wounds, he was still conscious, but died three hours later, refusing to utter a word about the identities of the killers.

I know it's off topic...

But the guys killed at the St. Valentines Day Massacre.

It was the...MORAN Gang?

It's almost Valentines Day too?

He was executing 5 year olds in an enclosed space with a fucking automatic weapon.

You people sicken me.

The kill rate is one of the things that bothers me most about the official story. The "rail thin" autistic Lanza, with the AR-15, two pistols, and "hundreds" of rounds, shoots his way in, then kills all but one of his victims. Semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger for each shot.

I don't buy it.

Nope, it was a semi-automatic, so he had to pull the trigger each time.

It's not like he pulls the trigger and a spray of bullets comes out.

He had to pull the trigger each time.

Each victim shot at least 3 times. Some as many as 11.

Nope.

And you doubt it because he had to pull the trigger each time? Are you fucking for real?

Yup, I'm fucking for real, dipshit aussie.

Unlike the official story.

Do you think that it takes some particular skill and intense training to execute 5 year olds in a classroom?

For one person to shoot 27 people, and kill 26, yes I do belive that would take special skill.

Not to mention the amount of gear he supposedly had.

The two handguns, the AR-15 (we won't even get into the other guns mentioned on the police scanner) and the "hundreds" of rounds.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Police sources initially reported Lanza's sibling, Ryan Lanza, as the perpetrator. This was likely because the perpetrator was carrying his brother's identification, Ryan told The Jersey Journal.--------


What if it was unlikely? Not a single reported fact in this incident holds up to even minor scrutiny.... how tall was Adam? A normal sized man does not weigh 120 pounds wet at 20 years old.... much less 110... so his brother's ID showed what actual info? There is of course no matching details with any actual crime scene report. There is no mention of a wallet so people are left to guess what kind of ID started the merry go round that Ryan was the shooter...

or why Nancy was identified as dead in the K-class along with her kids... this is not just a bad case of sloppy journalism... it is purposeful mis-information and bold-ass-lies... lies so bold the "authorities" appear to be in cahoots with the killer, which if course has to be impossible... but the questions remain unanswered thereby, causing the very "conspiracy theories" the authorities bitch about... as if there was no connection between their incompetent investigations and the demand for answers outside of their little box of secrecy.

Every other "theory" has been caused by the lack of truth... as to what really happened that morning. What we have is a rotten puzzle the authorities do want solved.

I know very little about guns but if Noah Pozner was shot 11 times with an AR-15 how much left of him would there be? I know its a grisly thought but its an honest question.

Ok, I'm just speculating here. Is it possible that all 20 of the children killed were found in the kitchen, but police had already rushed two of the kids to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

I'm still uncertain, though, of whether those 18 kids found in the kitchen were the actual victims or if they were surviving kids from a different class.

He describes "victims" at 24:18 in the kitchen closet. Then it says there is 1 teacher and 18 students at 26:57.

Possibly the 26:57 transmission is referring to other (i.e. unharmed) individuals, but not likely.

If you listen to the radio traffic police enter the school about 9:46. They find the 2 adults in the hall by the front door right away. They say suspect down and describe what weapons a shooter should have about 4 and 8 minutes after that. They say nothing about victims in the front classrooms or escorting kids out of the school. About 17 minutes after entering the school they find a LARGE number of victims as you hear them say "call for everything" "call Danbury if you have to". It would NOT take them 17 minutes to find bodies in the rooms that close to the front door. They would also not need to say where there are live people as they were just escorting them out as they found them. I think 5 adults and 2 kids were found near the front entrance and rooms and the others were in the kitchen. Remember, there were 2-3 parents who claim they were going back to the school to help build gingerbread houses so maybe 1-2 classes of kids went right to the kitchen to start cooking. The question is were these kids targeted on purpose or killed randomly? Why pass up all other classrooms to find these kids? You have multiple weapons and you can blow the dorrs open yet you go find these specific kids? WHY???

If you listen before 24:00 you will hear why they are discussing these victim's. An inbound ER support unit is getting close and they are asking for directions to the specific area of the crime scene.

OK, I'm not certain if you're correct, but I think what you're suggesting at least sounds like plausible scenario.

So why do you believe that two of the children were found elsewhere in the building?

Is it possible that all 20 of the children were found in the kitchen, but 2 of the kids had already been rushed to the hospital by the time "18 kids" was announced over the radio?

Here is a good rundown of the radio traffic.

From here: Newtown Area Police and Fire 12-14-2012 9:13 To 9:43 am

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actual time (radio time)

9:36:00 (23:00) 911 caller reports shooting at Sandy Hook......actual time of shooting shortly before.....
9:36:45 (23:45) caller reports glass broke near front door
9:37:20 (24:20) continues to hear gun fire
9:38:25 (25:25) shooting stopped
9:39:22 (26:10) more shooting
9:39:30 (26:30) police chasing someone near Crestwood ave.
9:41:05 (28:05) last known shots near front of the building

Shooting from around 9:35 to 9:40...........

From here: Newtown Area Police and Fire 12-14-2012 9:43 To 10:13 am

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9:43:50 (:50) different caller reports 1 female in room 1 with gunshot to the foot
9:45:50 (2:50) police enter school for first time
9:45:55 (2:55) I got bodies here
9:51:36 (8:36) we got 1 suspect down
9:51:44 (8:46) where?
9:51:54 (8:55) where is suspect down? (the answer was encrypted)
9:55:35 (12:35) be advised he should have multiple weapons including long rifle and shotgun
9:58:15 (15:15) that's all we know at this time....
9:58:35 (15:35) end the life of Adam
10:00:50 (17:50)need buses here call Danbury if you have too......

From here: Fairfield County Police Fire and EMS 12-14-2012 10:04-10:34 am

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10:28:18 (24:18) closet in the kitchen has victim's
10:30:57 (26:57) one of the places is in the kitchen there is a teacher and 18 kids


So the shooting took place for about 5 minutes off and on.
Police enter the school approx. 9 minutes after the first 911 call. That amount of time passing for anyone who had multiple gunshots would be fatal and there would be no way to revive them. Bodies are seen immediately after entering, probably the 2 who rushed the gunman. Now for 4 minutes there are no reports of activity. A suspect is reported down.....ok Adam or someone outside? Neither person on the radio sounds like the officer who entered the school. Do they mean down as in dead or down as in alive and shot or maybe just captured? 10 minutes after going into the school we hear he should have multiple weapons including long rifle and shotgun. If he is talking about Adam then he has NOT found him yet. If he is not talking about Adam then he is saying to look for another shooter with those weapons. Did he get a description from someone in the school? He surely had enough time to see at least some spent casings or shells as he already has seen a few bodies. During this time he does NOT say he found a dead suspect near the front door in the hallway as 1 newspaper reported. I recently found another article that claims Adam entered an empty class and shot himself. He also does NOT say anything about finding 2 classrooms near the front door full of victim's. Did they not clear those first? The doors would have been opened? We hear some encrypted traffic obviously asking for a status and we only hear that's all we know at this time. 20 seconds later we hear end the life of Adam. Was Adam still alive? If someone did take him out they would have had to do it very quietly. I forgot to add that shortly before the statement end the life of Adam the same officer tells other police to stay outside of the school. WHY?? The school has yet to be cleared and 1 or more shooters are still at large. It became VERY obvious the first officer who entered found a large number of victim's at 10:00:50, approx. 15 minutes after entering the school. Again if they were all in or near the front door and 2 classrooms close by why did it take 15 minutes to find them? At 10:28 there is some sort of an emergency vehicle approaching the scene and asks where to go when they are told by the dispatcher I think, one of the places is the closet in the kitchen it has victims. Are they dead or alive and why he is he directing them there? If these victim's are alive you would think they would have just been escorted out. A few minutes later on the radio we hear the same officer who first entered the school say one of the places is the kitchen it has 1 teacher and 18 kids.

but on Ryan ID... Ryan must be 24yo not 20.. why they announced: suspect is Ryan Lanza 20 yo guy....

There were reports that 2 kids were rushed to the hospital in police cars and I think you hear at least 1 on the radio confirming this. I assume they found these 2 kids almost immediately. The large group was found at 10:00am nearly 20 minutes or more after the shooting. They would have all been dead at this point judging by the amount of wound and weapons used.

at 9:36:45 i hear the same voice as 9:36:00 so..the 911 dispatcher and it's question: yes or no the front glass.. they unsure why?

could someone confime me this?