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No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!

 
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OK, LETS ADD UP THE NUMBERS:

775,638 UNION SOLDIERS
312,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS
40,000 BLACK SOLDIERS
28,OOO INDIAN SOLDIERS
30,000 "DISAPPEARED" IN "INDEFINITE DETENTION"

=1,185,638 DEAD AMERICANS
(STILL NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN)
OVER 1 MILLION KILLED FOR LINCOLN'S WAR.


*******WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!*********
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


It was Lincoln's war which eventually emancipated the slaves. Did you not want them freed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


"Freeing the slaves" only happened because Lincoln was running out of white soldiers to fight his war for him.
He promised "full citizenship" to blacks who fought in his war. Blacks NEVER RECIEVED THIS PROMISE!
THEY HAD NO CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
*HOW*IS*THAT*FREEDOM????
It's kind of like saying the Indians were "free" to do what they wanted if they STAYED PUT ON THE RESERVATION!
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You are SO OUT OF WACK.

Bravo to OP for a tremendous post.

The Lincoln Movie is another piece of Spielberg trash.

And the OP never said Lenin was in the 19th-century. This is a serious Thread, and you are not contributing to the discussion, pal.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Youre contributing nothing except movie reviews. There are many indications that Lincoln was actually a good person, and fought the elite banksters. You and the OP probably never heard of greenbacks, am I right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Buchanan, then Lincoln, were political whores. Lincoln was never an abolishionist. He only penned the Emancipation Proclimation (An Executive Order based on no law) late in the war when Northern support for the war was flagging, with most people saying just let the South go their seperate way. Lincoln, faced with the prospect of retreating from the war, co-opted the last group that reinforce the wanning support for the war, the Northern Abolishionists...

Lincoln was no hero, he slaughtered his own people and carried out a slash and burn campaign on the South, and the only reason he took on the bankers, that he was cozy with early in the war, was because they refused to slash the war debt as much as Lincoln had promised to the Northern Industrialists that the banks would...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


One trend ive noticed is that most Lincoln-haters underestimate the banking elite. Only two presidents in history have tried to release us from their control- Lincoln and JFK (look what happened to them). Jon Wilkes Boothe was a high-ranking member of the masons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Actually, you're incorrect. One president knew clearly who was trying to take control of the country and prevented them from doing so at the time (Andrew Jackson), and one knew we had been enslaved by them and sought to redress that evil, but paid with his life (Kennedy).
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Youre contributing nothing except movie reviews. There are many indications that Lincoln was actually a good person, and fought the elite banksters. You and the OP probably never heard of greenbacks, am I right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Buchanan, then Lincoln, were political whores. Lincoln was never an abolishionist. He only penned the Emancipation Proclimation (An Executive Order based on no law) late in the war when Northern support for the war was flagging, with most people saying just let the South go their seperate way. Lincoln, faced with the prospect of retreating from the war, co-opted the last group that reinforce the wanning support for the war, the Northern Abolishionists...

Lincoln was no hero, he slaughtered his own people and carried out a slash and burn campaign on the South, and the only reason he took on the bankers, that he was cozy with early in the war, was because they refused to slash the war debt as much as Lincoln had promised to the Northern Industrialists that the banks would...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


One trend ive noticed is that most Lincoln-haters underestimate the banking elite. Only two presidents in history have tried to release us from their control- Lincoln and JFK (look what happened to them). Jon Wilkes Boothe was a high-ranking member of the masons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Actually, you're incorrect. One president knew clearly who was trying to take control of the country and prevented them from doing so at the time (Andrew Jackson), and one knew we had been enslaved by them and sought to redress that evil, but paid with his life (Kennedy).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


Washington & Jefferson also fought off the central banks of the day, sponsored politically by Hamilton...

Lincoln never said a word against the banks or The Bank of England while he was borrowing money from them to fight his war, but when they actually wanted to be paid back and they didn't give him a huge discount that he had promised his supporters...well their paths diverged then...

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I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
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^^This^^
OP is most likely a paid shill.
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Don't forget though, Lincoln was a Republican ......


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A thousand years from now Lincoln will probably be the only American President remembered. The rest will just be numbers that worked for bankers and corporations.

Other than the man that freed the slaves, like a biblical hero, there's very few Americans that will be remembered, except maybe the first to fly, and the first on the moon.
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OK, LETS ADD UP THE NUMBERS:

775,638 UNION SOLDIERS
312,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS
40,000 BLACK SOLDIERS
28,OOO INDIAN SOLDIERS
30,000 "DISAPPEARED" IN "INDEFINITE DETENTION"

=1,185,638 DEAD AMERICANS
(STILL NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN)
OVER 1 MILLION KILLED FOR LINCOLN'S WAR.


*******WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!*********
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


It was Lincoln's war which eventually emancipated the slaves. Did you not want them freed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


"freeing" the slaves was the cover up for the fuck up of the million plus dead and country torn to hell...

They had to save face... they had to do something worthwhile... had it been about slaves... Lincoln would have freed them day one in office... did he... nope...


check this out...

[link to wiki.answers.com]
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See the post above yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Slavery was on it's way out in Western Civilization regardless of the Civil War. A growing Southern Abolishionist movement (which fought against Lincoln in the war), mechanization, and the European model of "Share Cropping", which only made economic slaves of the newly freed Southern slaves, were quickly moving both Europe and America away from slavery...

So Lincoln killed a million people (black and white) and, as a political calculation, ended a practice that was already on it's way out...

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Lincoln is in my top 3 of worst presidents of all time.


The Republic died the day the civil war was over.
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I Am So New To This Forum And Don't Mean To Intrude On The Conversation But Anonymous Coward. You Really Struck A Nerve With That Comment About Not Knowing Your History. U U UH UM. DO YOU? Either You Can Or You Can Not Understand Basis For The Post In The First Place. YOUR SO CALLED AMERICAN HISTORY IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN MY FRIEND. So The Comments About Not Knowing Your History Is Completely Idiotic. Will Our So Called American People Ever Be Able To Ban Together To Focus On The Good Of Us All If There Are People Out Here Like You Who Can't See Past The Veil That Has Been Put In Front Of You.
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Don't forget though, Lincoln was a Republican ......


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SO THE REPUBLICANS FREED THE SLAVES?
AND THE DEMOCRATS MADE THE SLAVES?
My God, who wudda thunk?
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I Am So New To This Forum And Don't Mean To Intrude On The Conversation But Anonymous Coward. You Really Struck A Nerve With That Comment About Not Knowing Your History. U U UH UM. DO YOU? Either You Can Or You Can Not Understand Basis For The Post In The First Place. YOUR SO CALLED AMERICAN HISTORY IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN MY FRIEND. So The Comments About Not Knowing Your History Is Completely Idiotic. Will Our So Called American People Ever Be Able To Ban Together To Focus On The Good Of Us All If There Are People Out Here Like You Who Can't See Past The Veil That Has Been Put In Front Of You.
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So did Sherman do all his shenanigans, like killing women and children & burning down peoples homes on his "March to the sea" without Lincoln blessing?...I'd bet it was on "Lincoln's order.
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On Lincoln's orders, but mostly was his own evil sadistic doing. Sherman was a first class MF SOB who should been burned alive himself.
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When we are all gone. O will be forever known as one of the greatest presidents in Candy Coated History.
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Will Our So Called American People Ever Be Able To Ban Together To Focus On The Good Of Us All
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The energy focused on the U.S. that's ripping it apart, and has Americans at each other's throats, is coming from all over the world.

We're as loved as the Aztecs & Romans.

I was talking to a woman the other day, who like me had lived in India, and she also knew like me, being born here was like winning the lottery.

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Buchanan, then Lincoln, were political whores. Lincoln was never an abolishionist. He only penned the Emancipation Proclimation (An Executive Order based on no law) late in the war when Northern support for the war was flagging, with most people saying just let the South go their seperate way. Lincoln, faced with the prospect of retreating from the war, co-opted the last group that reinforce the wanning support for the war, the Northern Abolishionists...

Lincoln was no hero, he slaughtered his own people and carried out a slash and burn campaign on the South, and the only reason he took on the bankers, that he was cozy with early in the war, was because they refused to slash the war debt as much as Lincoln had promised to the Northern Industrialists that the banks would...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


One trend ive noticed is that most Lincoln-haters underestimate the banking elite. Only two presidents in history have tried to release us from their control- Lincoln and JFK (look what happened to them). Jon Wilkes Boothe was a high-ranking member of the masons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Actually, you're incorrect. One president knew clearly who was trying to take control of the country and prevented them from doing so at the time (Andrew Jackson), and one knew we had been enslaved by them and sought to redress that evil, but paid with his life (Kennedy).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


Washington & Jefferson also fought off the central banks of the day, sponsored politically by Hamilton...

Lincoln never said a word against the banks or The Bank of England while he was borrowing money from them to fight his war, but when they actually wanted to be paid back and they didn't give him a huge discount that he had promised his supporters...well their paths diverged then...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Again you ignore Lincoln's greenbacks. And what type of currency did Jackson suggest to replace the current system at the time? Simply fighting the national bank doesnt mean he was fighting the banksters. Not saying Jackson wasnt what people thought he was, but there was no interest-free currency proposed by his administration.
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One trend ive noticed is that most Lincoln-haters underestimate the banking elite. Only two presidents in history have tried to release us from their control- Lincoln and JFK (look what happened to them). Jon Wilkes Boothe was a high-ranking member of the masons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


What about Andrew Jackson, the Bank Killer?

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I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

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Lincoln is old news. What about the lunatic in office right now?
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Who cares?

Lincoln has been dead for a couple hundred years now.

We have another war monger and mass murder to contend with - BARACK OBAMA!
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In another thread on Lincoln, a site was mentioned in which the jewish background of Lincoln is explained, springstein I believe. So could Lincoln actually have been a zionist agent, in league with european zionists and their detrimental agenda for world domination ?

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One trend ive noticed is that most Lincoln-haters underestimate the banking elite. Only two presidents in history have tried to release us from their control- Lincoln and JFK (look what happened to them). Jon Wilkes Boothe was a high-ranking member of the masons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Actually, you're incorrect. One president knew clearly who was trying to take control of the country and prevented them from doing so at the time (Andrew Jackson), and one knew we had been enslaved by them and sought to redress that evil, but paid with his life (Kennedy).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


Washington & Jefferson also fought off the central banks of the day, sponsored politically by Hamilton...

Lincoln never said a word against the banks or The Bank of England while he was borrowing money from them to fight his war, but when they actually wanted to be paid back and they didn't give him a huge discount that he had promised his supporters...well their paths diverged then...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Again you ignore Lincoln's greenbacks. And what type of currency did Jackson suggest to replace the current system at the time? Simply fighting the national bank doesnt mean he was fighting the banksters. Not saying Jackson wasnt what people thought he was, but there was no interest-free currency proposed by his administration.
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Actually, you're incorrect. One president knew clearly who was trying to take control of the country and prevented them from doing so at the time (Andrew Jackson), and one knew we had been enslaved by them and sought to redress that evil, but paid with his life (Kennedy).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


Washington & Jefferson also fought off the central banks of the day, sponsored politically by Hamilton...

Lincoln never said a word against the banks or The Bank of England while he was borrowing money from them to fight his war, but when they actually wanted to be paid back and they didn't give him a huge discount that he had promised his supporters...well their paths diverged then...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Again you ignore Lincoln's greenbacks. And what type of currency did Jackson suggest to replace the current system at the time? Simply fighting the national bank doesnt mean he was fighting the banksters. Not saying Jackson wasnt what people thought he was, but there was no interest-free currency proposed by his administration.
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How about the number of war casualties since the civil war? It is millions more, and guess who finances both sides of every war?
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When we are all gone. O will be forever known as one of the greatest presidents in Candy Coated History.
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Usually when an empire is destroyed, it's history is also destroyed. Lincoln has a biblical mystique, so he will more than likely survive in history. There's really not much Obama can do to make a mark on history, unless he does something spectacular during the nuclear battle of WWIII.

It's amazing as hell to me that we have Mabus heading up our Navy and Marines, being Nostradamus talked about a Mabus and naval battles. Plus this year we have the added bonus of an asteroid that will be brighter than the moon.

2013 (13.0.0.0.0), or the calendars of "13" should be a very interesting time, being 13 is the number of death and transition.

In 1913 we got the Federal Reserve, which was the death of many things in the U.S., and a transition into very greedy ways.
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What a IQ dropping post.. Buttercunt needs to try and work the little brain that is in his head
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Have a history teacher explain this if they can.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in
1846.

John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in
1946.


Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.

John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.



Both were particularly concerned with civil
rights.

Both wives lost a child while living in the White
House.



Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both Presidents were shot in the head.



Now it gets really weird.



Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.

Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.



Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners named
Johnson.



Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was
born in 1808.

Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was
born in 1908.


John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln,
was born in 1839.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy,
was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.

Both names are composed of fifteen letters.



Now hang on to your seat.



Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford."

Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln" made
by "Ford."

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before
their trials.

And here's the "kicker":

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in
Monroe, Maryland.

A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with
Marilyn Monroe.

AND...................:

Lincoln was shot in a theater and the assassin
ran to a warehouse...

Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and the
assassin ran to a theater...
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Don't forget though, Lincoln was a Republican ......


:lincoln:

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SO THE REPUBLICANS FREED THE SLAVES?
AND THE DEMOCRATS MADE THE SLAVES?
My God, who wudda thunk?
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Demos Formed the KKK.. so maybe you should do some checking on your understanding of history
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South Carolina seceded first in 1861, after Lincoln became president.
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Lincoln was inaugurated in march 1861. Much of the South had seceded by then. You southrons are very deficient in history.
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The election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 was the final straw for many southerners. In all 11 states seceded from the Union. Four of these (Virginia, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Tennessee) did not secede until after the Battle of Fort Sumter that occurred on April 12, 1861. Five additional states were Border Slave States that did not secede from the Union: Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware.
Order of Secession During the American Civil War

State Date of Secession
South Carolina December 20, 1860
Mississippi January 9, 1861
Florida January 10, 1861
Alabama January 11, 1861
Georgia January 19, 1861
Louisiana January 26, 1861
Texas February 1, 1861
Virginia April 17, 1861
Arkansas May 6, 1861
North Carolina May 20, 1861
Tennessee June 8, 1861
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Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
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Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
South Carolina seceded first in 1861, after Lincoln became president.
 Quoting: Ollo


Lincoln was inaugurated in march 1861. Much of the South had seceded by then. You southrons are very deficient in history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30474188


you are a fucking idiot

[link to memory.loc.gov]

They succeeded because of Lincoln

and btw that war had nothing to do with Slaves...

My great great great great grandpa fought for the Confederacy... Years after the war his grand son asked him why he fought against the blacks...

He said...
"God damnnit, I didn't fight for no slaves. I fought to remove oppression and tyranny from all people. I didnt risk my life so some rich plantation owner in Georgia could sit on his ass and not lift his finger. I fought aside the Negroes. Fine soldiers the lot of them. Those sum bitches in Washington didnt give one damn about the dark folk, the poor folk or any folk. Shadow Puppets the whole of us were. It was a war started by greed and greed alone on both sides. I fought so my children could live without the pressures of greedy men"

Not much has changed has it?


btw its not Southrons
Its Southerners
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Its really not necessary for you to talk like this. It adds nothing to the discussion and simply displays your character. For the record your link is incorrect. Below is a timeline of events.

-Lincoln was elected on November 6th 1860

-December 20th, 1860, South Carolina held a secession convention in Charleston. The debate was quick and short. Representatives voted unanimously, 169 to 0 for secession.

-Also prior to Lincoln being inaugurated, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Lousiana and Texas left the union.

-Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861

-On April 12th, 1861, at about 4:30 AM, South Carolina militia forces in Charleston opened fire on Fort Sumter. (This was the trigger that started the war)

[link to ehistory.osu.edu]
 Quoting: Celtic Ranger


Don't bother posting facts, inbreds don't understand facts. They also obviously never ready the articles of secession from the seceding states which pretty much say as plain as day in their own words that they seceded because of slavery

[link to sunsite.utk.edu]
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Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


It doesn't matter what you think Lincoln's intentions were. What he did was entirely unlawful, unconstitutional, and is still the bloodthirstiest warmonger against American people that the world has ever known.





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