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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

 
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Did Native Americans have access to the Bible?

Yes. Absolutely.

At the following link is a description and pictures of one of the oldest surviving copies of the Ten Commandments (a Decalogue). It is etched onto the smooth side of a large rock and the language it is written in is ancient Hebrew.

It is called the Los Lunas Dacalogue Stone.

This Decalogue is located in some rock formations in New Mexico in the American southwest which is home to many Native American tribes.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone is thought to have been written by an ancient Hebrew people. Its origin dates back approx. 3,000 years ago.

The Los Lunas Decalogue Stone first became well known "to the World" in the 1850s. However, at that time the local people had already been well aware of it for a very long time.

What is also very interesting is that sincethe discovery of the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, researchers have determined that tehre aremany similarlities between the spoken language,songs, festivals, and observances during festivals between many Native American tribes and the ancient Hebrews.

[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]
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Seminole Indians of Florida are
descendents of the Lost Tribe
of Reuben according to some
sources.

If so, they knew Hebrew and may
have already been exposed to the
Torah before coming to the Americas.


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I'm almost convinced that my family does evocations in "tongue" speak. My grandmother and that side is descendant of Seminole. My father is Descendant of Lumbee which I shared earlier.

I don't identify with being African American as it is just another confused title in my opinion.

I used to wonder what all the stuff was until I saw that I was actually being visited by totem energies

I didn't get it when I first saw a face like this. the one I saw had a clover shape and lines like this for eyes and a line for the mouth. no other features besides the lines. no color nothing, just the lines. I can't find a pic for something similar so I'd have to draw one

[link to www.hear2heal.com]

some might recognize it. Since I saw this type of face once it took years for me to FIND out what a kachina was. I'm in good hands and now I'm working on learning ME more.

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"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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That....was awesome
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I'm almost convinced that my family does evocations in "tongue" speak. My grandmother and that side is descendant of Seminole. My father is Descendant of Lumbee which I shared earlier.
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lol
I live close to Lumbee Tribes of NC.
I use to date a Lumbee female long time ago.
Beautiful woman :)

Strike at the Wind was a great drama
every human should see.
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Before ANY white man came to the Americas
1/3 of the world's population lived here.
90 million natives.
20,000 years before the first white man.
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Seminole Indians of Florida are
descendents of the Lost Tribe
of Reuben according to some
sources.

If so, they knew Hebrew and may
have already been exposed to the
Torah before coming to the Americas.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2531569


I'm almost convinced that my family does evocations in "tongue" speak. My grandmother and that side is descendant of Seminole. My father is Descendant of Lumbee which I shared earlier.

I don't identify with being African American as it is just another confused title in my opinion.

I used to wonder what all the stuff was until I saw that I was actually being visited by totem energies

I didn't get it when I first saw a face like this. the one I saw had a clover shape and lines like this for eyes and a line for the mouth. no other features besides the lines. no color nothing, just the lines. I can't find a pic for something similar so I'd have to draw one

[link to www.hear2heal.com]

some might recognize it. Since I saw this type of face once it took years for me to FIND out what a kachina was. I'm in good hands and now I'm working on learning ME more.
 Quoting: acegotflows



My maternal grandmother was born to American Indian parents, but when I tried to do my ancestry tree I couldn't find anything on them .., I would so love to reach for that... I hope to be where you are, and learn more about ME too... My father in law talks a lot about kachina .. Up until now my ADD has kept me from hearing him... I think I'll start listening
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Being "human beings", they had no use for it.
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In a limited way, they were told about a coming judgment after a great war.

Jer:25:15:
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me;
Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand,
and cause all the nations,
to whom I send thee,
to drink it.
Jer:25:16:
And they shall drink,
and be moved,
and be mad,
because of the sword that I will send among them.
Jer:25:17:
Then took I the cup at the LORD's hand,
and made all the nations to drink,
unto whom the LORD had sent me:
Jer:25:18:
To wit,
Jerusalem,
and the cities of Judah,
and the kings thereof,
and the princes thereof,
to make them a desolation,
an astonishment,
an hissing,
and a curse; as it is this day;

Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:

and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
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If you do some research you'll see that the good book was practically crammed down their throats. So many native children were taken away from their parents and taken to Christian schools to wipe away (or try to) their ancestral knowledge and way of life.

Much more..lots of info. on the net.

Also, why would they need the bible? They lived in harmony with nature and had their own beliefs. Who is anyone to minimize that?
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the bible is suppose to teach you there is a spirit
the natives already know that
jesus did visit the natives as well
they want to kill him
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honestly I'd been told stories and such my entire life but until I started to do psychedelics-they were only stories. Once I opened that can of worms there was no turning back. encounters that set me on my path

1- my amrosia experience in 2007 where I was consumed by the violet flame. It felt like warm electric silk and all loving and knowing. I also saw a bright gyroscope craft and beings that had animal masks with wings

2- my experience with seeing and being taken to a crystal pyramid with the beings that had the lines for faces

3- my life being saved on different occasions by nothing that could be logically explained

I no longer FEAR. I'm ready to BE now

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And if not.. Why not? We're they not important enough to be taught the ways of Jesus? I mean, if we're all God's children..wouldn't everyone have known about Him?
And would Christians of early American days have condemned them to Hell because they did not accept Christ as their savior, even though they knew nothing of him?

Please forgive my ignorance.. I'm just looking for answers

cheers
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


Egyptian religions, Norse tribes, Hindus, Jews and Muslims were the first to reach our ancestors via pre-columbus trade route. There's a large percentage of Cherokee among us that are of both Semetic and Cherokee blood. Christianity didn't come until later, but was still pre-Columbus. There were a lot of native Americans in both north and south America forced to decide to convert to Christianity or be executed, but the movement wasn't as large in America as it was in south America because we were considered as low if not lower than blacks therefor we could not benefit from "Jesus" to many of the European whites. Once native American rights were established well not really established per-say but evened out a little bit, we were no longer at risk of being killed or lynched for not taking Christian and/or English names or using our native languages but still at risk of random hate crimes. So to say the least most tribes have a poor history with Christianity, especially westernized Christianity who's beliefs and practices deviate greatly from the Gospel.

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I remember my mom telling me stories akin to this. I did some research years ago but have lost track of it. There were some 'appearances' by an East star Man or Son of the Great Spirit literally around the time of His crucifixion.
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great spirit trumps anything religion has to sell. That's why they burned us, killed us and marched us until we just said OK you win.

I'm a descendant of the famous disappeared Roanoke colony...
 Quoting: acegotflows


me again, back with avatar and name this time. I bet you know about Melungeons, right?
"""" There is evidence to suggest that the Middle Eastern influence was already present among the eastern seaboard tribes of Native Americans long before Columbus arrived on America's shores. There even appear to be direct linguistic borrowings, especially from the Croatian language (the Croatian people would have been a part of the Turkish-Ottoman Empire at the time). By the time northern European immigrants began arriving (such as Scotch-Irish, German, English, etc.) there was already a sizable population who called themselves Melungeons (from Arabic words of nearly the same pronunciation which meant "accursed people")."""" [link to voices.yahoo.com]

I just saw my mother had one of the 'lost colony' surnames, looking up about Melungeons. It's weird. I had the impulse to send you a link to this song last week ,and I didn't know about your heritage at all then. I'd never heard it before until on a jukebox [at an oyster bar- Sounds like Croatoan food, huh?], a couple or 3 years ago. So please don't be all snobbish, thinking I regularly listen to country music. [link to www.youtube.com]
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What about the theory of Jesus being the sun, rather than the actual son.. And that's where it all began ... In the stars

(Yes I've been watching Z******st ... But I'm having trouble comprehending 100% .. Need to watch again and in peace maybe? Or is that a joke too?)
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great spirit trumps anything religion has to sell. That's why they burned us, killed us and marched us until we just said OK you win.

I'm a descendant of the famous disappeared Roanoke colony...
 Quoting: acegotflows


me again, back with avatar and name this time. I bet you know about Melungeons, right?
"""" There is evidence to suggest that the Middle Eastern influence was already present among the eastern seaboard tribes of Native Americans long before Columbus arrived on America's shores. There even appear to be direct linguistic borrowings, especially from the Croatian language (the Croatian people would have been a part of the Turkish-Ottoman Empire at the time). By the time northern European immigrants began arriving (such as Scotch-Irish, German, English, etc.) there was already a sizable population who called themselves Melungeons (from Arabic words of nearly the same pronunciation which meant "accursed people")."""" [link to voices.yahoo.com]

I just saw my mother had one of the 'lost colony' surnames, looking up about Melungeons. It's weird. I had the impulse to send you a link to this song last week ,and I didn't know about your heritage at all then. I'd never heard it before until on a jukebox [at an oyster bar- Sounds like Croatoan food, huh?], a couple or 3 years ago. So please don't be all snobbish, thinking I regularly listen to country music. [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: chauchat


no I was not aware of that. THANK YOU. Now I have more research to do.... hf

my birthday was Jan 2nd. It was the first time I did an oyster bar. I just felt that we had that in common as well. I listen to lots of different genres. I don't think it is snobbish at all. Line dancing is cool stuff. I did not get to do the Opry when I visited Nashville, but I would have.

Kenny Chesney Down the road is lovely tune, regardless of the religious aspect of it

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The ten commandments can be found on a rock in texas, which dates back thousands of years.
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What about the theory of Jesus being the sun, rather than the actual son.. And that's where it all began ... In the stars

(Yes I've been watching Z******st ... But I'm having trouble comprehending 100% .. Need to watch again and in peace maybe? Or is that a joke too?)
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I think that it's an elemental joke with #2 and hot air. The sun/ sol/soul is something that is spun so many ways that you can't even begin to imagine
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Seminole Indians of Florida are
descendents of the Lost Tribe
of Reuben according to some
sources.

If so, they knew Hebrew and may
have already been exposed to the
Torah before coming to the Americas.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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there is a lot point to this in other info expressed.

at 3:00 it gives a rundown........actually the whole vid does.

refreshing vid here=


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great spirit trumps anything religion has to sell. That's why they burned us, killed us and marched us until we just said OK you win.

I'm a descendant of the famous disappeared Roanoke colony...
 Quoting: acegotflows


me again, back with avatar and name this time. I bet you know about Melungeons, right?
"""" There is evidence to suggest that the Middle Eastern influence was already present among the eastern seaboard tribes of Native Americans long before Columbus arrived on America's shores. There even appear to be direct linguistic borrowings, especially from the Croatian language (the Croatian people would have been a part of the Turkish-Ottoman Empire at the time). By the time northern European immigrants began arriving (such as Scotch-Irish, German, English, etc.) there was already a sizable population who called themselves Melungeons (from Arabic words of nearly the same pronunciation which meant "accursed people")."""" [link to voices.yahoo.com]

I just saw my mother had one of the 'lost colony' surnames, looking up about Melungeons. It's weird. I had the impulse to send you a link to this song last week ,and I didn't know about your heritage at all then. I'd never heard it before until on a jukebox [at an oyster bar- Sounds like Croatoan food, huh?], a couple or 3 years ago. So please don't be all snobbish, thinking I regularly listen to country music. [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: chauchat


no I was not aware of that. THANK YOU. Now I have more research to do.... hf

my birthday was Jan 2nd. It was the first time I did an oyster bar. I just felt that we had that in common as well. I listen to lots of different genres. I don't think it is snobbish at all. Line dancing is cool stuff. I did not get to do the Opry when I visited Nashville, but I would have.

Kenny Chesney Down the road is lovely tune, regardless of the religious aspect of it
 Quoting: acegotflows


glad you like the melungeons thing. hoped you might. I will listen to that kenny chesney thing as soon as i get home late tonight.
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The ten commandments can be found on a rock in texas, which dates back thousands of years.
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Sarcastic AC is sarcastic :O
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they want to kill him
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Their first chance will be when they are resurrected to life a bit early as compensation of what 'christians' did to them. Comes under 'beheaded for His name) title ine Re:4:20.
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I think the natives knew God. They called him "The Great Spirit". They maybe didn't understand everything at first, but it's possible that perhaps the spanish were able to find America to bring the bible over. Of course there was a lot of bloodshed by a lot of evil men over the years, but if one single soul was saved as a result then it was all worth it. I believe a lot of cultures believed in Monotheism, 1 God who created everything.
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I think the natives knew God. They called him "The Great Spirit". They maybe didn't understand everything at first, but it's possible that perhaps the spanish were able to find America to bring the bible over. Of course there was a lot of bloodshed by a lot of evil men over the years, but if one single soul was saved as a result then it was all worth it. I believe a lot of cultures believed in Monotheism, 1 God who created everything.
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If one soul was saved, even though hundreds of thousands were slaughtered, it was worth it?

I too believe there is something greater than us, to ignore that would be silly... But a good deal of us have been raised to believe that Jesus is "the only way" .. And if Jesus didn't come to the natives to tell them this ... If they weren't "saved" ,.. According to religious folk from where I am, they must be damned?

Sorry no.. I can't buy that at all .. A higher power yes, but Jesus as the only way, no... And no matter what, one soul saved out of 100k slaughtered is NoT ok either ... And if that's the case id rather spend eternity with the poor forgotten souls that weren't given a chance anyway ... I can't even fathom living forever with the hate filled so called righteous ones I'm surrounded by.
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The Cry of The Ancient Ones~ written by Tabitha Robin

"Listen My People" Remember the words of the Old Ones (Cherokee) and how it Used to be.

It was not a time of peace, even before the white man came. There were Many Tribes across this land, and they all claimed the land. Raiding other tribes, stealing their horses and women were part of the young warriors challenge of manhood. If you ran into an enemy from another tribe in your travels most often, you killed him, or he killed you.

Death and destruction followed the tribes as they moved the whole Village to new camping grounds as the seasons changed. Children died of starvation, and old age was in the forties.

The medicine men told the people what they wanted to hear, and the people heaped unto themselves teachers having itching ears who taught fables for truth. And The Great White Spirit Cried Out with a Loud Voice; "My People have left My Path and have Gone Astray into the Wilderness".

The Cries of the Ancient Ones Called out to the Great White Spirit asking for a Light unto the People, asking for the Path to be made known, Asking for Forgiveness.

I have Made a Way for All People the Great White Spirit told them. I have sent a Light into the world, and the world Received Him Not. I Spoke and the world was formed. Is it not possible for me to come into the world as my son, and still be here in the heavens? I came and grew to a man, and my Name was Jesus. I taught of the New World to Come, and spoke of the Evil in this world that makes people kill each other. The evil has a Name, and his name is Lucifer, also called Satan. He Rules this world and the Tribes of the world follow him. I had to make a way for you.

The men of the world did not like my message of Peace and Salvation. They took me Captive. I could have called many, many warriors to my rescue, because I am the Great White Spirit who Can Do All Things. But I did not. I spoke not a word in my own defense. I was led as a lamb to slaughter. I took all the Evil of the World upon my shoulders for All who Will Believe My Words. I was beaten with many stripes, and Nailed to a Cross to die. Again, I could have Called Many Warriors to My Side, but I did Not. A Warrior stuck his spear into my side, and blood and water poured forth. The pain was excruciating as the weight of my body pulled on the nails in my hands and feet. But I endured this suffering for You. To Show You I am The Great White Spirit who Can Do All Things! Three days after they Killed me upon that tree, I Rose from the grave. Death could not hold me. There is Nothing Impossible for Me.

The Circle of Life starts and ends with Me. I am The Great White Spirit, and I am also Jesus. I am the Comforter that I send to you when you ask me for forgiveness and accept my Words. Yet, I am one. I am the Great White Spirit.

Do You Believe My Words of Truth? I am Coming back Soon and all eyes shall see me coming in the Air. The Tribes of the Earth will know that My Word's Were True but it will be Too Late for Them. The Time to Believe is Now. The Time to Call Out to Me is Now. My Name is Jesus. I and My Father are One. I am the Great White Spirit.

Those who trust me and believe my Words will be in a New World where men shall live Free, and there shall be no hatred and killing. There shall be no Death, and you will never grow old. The animals shall live in peace, and I shall Live among You. Come, Take my hand. I am Calling To You. Come and Walk a Path with Me. My Name is Jesus!
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A Letter From A Friend..................

Dear Tabitha Robin,

Hello! My Name is XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX. I wish to send you a note.

I am very glad to see that you understand that the Great White Spirit is The tri-une god.

I am not sure how much to say about this to you but You seem to understand he is Jesus.

This information is almost buried. Before contact with whites he came.

He came (we assume the timing) after he left Jerusalem.

According to my eighth great grandfather Red Eagle.(Well before his time)

He came to my Cherokee Ancestors.

He was seen descending on a cloud dressed in shining white clothes.

The likes of that had never seen before and with no weapon. He immediately Gathered the children and began speaking to them.

He taught the messages as in our bible.

He came to the Cherokee and to the Crow as well. Other tribes possibly.

I am thankful you write this. Thanks for letting me speak with your mother on this. She says this is basically what was handed down to her.

It was nice to hear another one who has heard the story. Not claiming about the Mormon story, But our story. I think the manifest destiny policy tended to put this story down hard. Evil Spirits do a good job of it too.

Wado Dohi, White Wolf

Author, Tabitha Robin has provided this entire story by permission. IAW "fair use"
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@ MrsCrickets, Do not be troubled by ancestors who have gone before. acts 17:30 New International Version (©1984)
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
The Great White Spirit will only judge a Human-Being on what they knew. Much like a innocent baby. If you knew the nature of YHWH then this would be clear. Peace!
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The white man drinks his fire water and goes to church every Sunday to talk about God...

The Indian eats Peyote and talks to God.
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Thanks for bringing this up, Pinned
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The Native Americans were much more spiritual than what is taught in the bible. They knew they were an extension of nature and all was connected in the big wheel of life. They only killed to feed themselves and asked thanked the animal spirit. They were much more humane than the white settlers that killed for sport and furs.
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popcorn

major flaw in the christian myth
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My main reason for asking, as nothing more than a white girl from WV raised by baptists, is it all seems so fake the older I get.. And I genuinely want to hear someone tell me why, if Jesus is the only way, did Native Americans not know about him... Does that make sense?
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The Mormons believed the Indians to be the Lost Tribe of Israel, particularly the Ute tribe.

Not for nothing though, as Mormonism is a relatively new religion.
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you anti religion people that support the second amendment are a joke ...

When it comes to "gun control" they blame the person and not the gun ......and I agree



But when someone takes religion and does something bad then they call for the end of religion on earth ...........hypocrites

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I think the natives knew God. They called him "The Great Spirit". They maybe didn't understand everything at first, but it's possible that perhaps the spanish were able to find America to bring the bible over. Of course there was a lot of bloodshed by a lot of evil men over the years, but if one single soul was saved as a result then it was all worth it. I believe a lot of cultures believed in Monotheism, 1 God who created everything.
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Yes, the Spanish missionaries thought they were civilizing them even after they slaughtered so many of them.

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