Was John Smith Murdered

You could well be correct. However he may also have had a natural heart attack.

Yes true, but then we have to believe that Blair's premiership came about through luck, with all the following consequences.

And we should remember that in the US assassination is a common political tool, such as:
1. JFK
2.RFK
3. JFK JR
4. Senator Wellstone
In the UK
1.Diana
2.Cook
3.Kelly
4.Mowlan
Israel
1.Rabin
Egypt
1.Saddat

Blair's premiership 'an accident'.....I don't think so, and all the suspiscious deaths and war crimes during his premier ship?

They are soulless dastardly filth.

You and some others have posted some great information here. Nice work!

It's unfortunate more will never see* it.

Thanks for sharing.

Dear Goldie,

Thank you very much for your support. It is really really appreciated.

Mostly it's quite lonley here (on this thread), but I continue because I believe the Nuremburg Protocols (after WW2) were correct, in that by quite aquiesence we infact become guilty too, as they court found the German people themselves were guilty of the horrors of the Nazis, because they did not resist.

A criminal government is not legitimate, the US/UK governments are criminal, therefore they are not legitimate, they are the Fourth Reich, Illuminati.

Your Country is being run by war criminals_War_Crimes Arrest UK war criminal's NOW TIME

War Crime - Wiki Article

The above video not so good, this one may be better.

C.I.A. no al-qaeda ever existed - BBC documentary the power of nightmares

Some better contempary documentaries

Ducumentary on IRAN Iran Is Not the Problem; Stop War on IRAN



The British and American Deception 1 - From Iraq to Iran documentary



The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror

Please take a look at all todays entries, some good..a couple a bit duff (sorry).

Best wishes to you

Woman speaks the truth On Question time but was laughed at. The Secret Agenda

In hindsight, probably.

Elected Police Commissioners, Avon & Somerset AGM angry & unanimously against - bristol

On balance of the evidence, yes. But the sheep laughing at her??!!!

i don't disagree that there are truly evil forces at work on many levels of everyday life
call them what you will
but i don't agree that all politicians and civil servants are evil scum

greedy, self serving , easily led
ambitious and entitled -yes
but that's not just them
there's a lot of it about

not evil in itself but putty in the hands of evil

and usually too arrogant to consider themselves susceptible to basic manipulation in the guise of a 'good cause '
or 'the most prudent way'-in the case of the privatisation of the nhs

idiots do the work of evil, so evil goes unchecked imo

but by and large , people are generally decent and well meaning (even greedy ,entitled ones) and if they 'assist' the illuminati-i don't think it is done with intent-which doesn't make it okay , just doesn't make them evil either

Dear AC thank you very much for your considered opinion, it is really appreciated.

In truth (as you probably expect) I strongly (respectfully) disagree.

You assert that most politicians are not evil, just misguided and I understand where your coming from, but that is simply not true by law.

The Nuremburg Protocols (the conclusions of the trial of Nazism after WW2) found the German people guilty of war crimes let alone the Nazi politicians, beaurocrats and agents.

From this we can understand the seriousness of being part of an illegitamate, illegal and war criminal state.

On evidence of the past decade we can see that politicians no longer govern for the good of the people but for their clique.

A case in point is the recent elections to vote for a police commissioner.

This NWO project had the support of all 3 main parties. It was conducted in a very underhand (criminal way)and cost 100 Million pounds.

Police commissioners are undemocratic and it is a very fundemntal step towards not only the politicisation of the police but its militirisation like the police in the USA.

Add to that:

1. Illegal war in Iraq
2. Illegal war in Afghanistan.
3. Torture
4. Rendition.
5. The government murders of Diana, Cook, Kelly, Mowlan, John Smith.
6. The support for the lie that is the official version of events on 911.
7. The undemocratic nature of British Politics, just a few days ago Ed Miliband (The Labour Leader) declared himself the true inheritor of Margaret Thatcher's legacy.
So we are living in a one system 3 party state NOT DEMOCRACY.

So considering the above the question is "When do you stop being a dupe and become a colaborator in an evil illegal government?"

I would argue joining such an illegitimate organisation verifies that individual as evil.

An individual is only as good as the organisation he/she is in.

Onto another subject I've discussed before, Satanism. On Thursday night I had the unsettling experience of watching a programme that promoted and instructed people on how to become a Satanist.

Derren Brown's 'The Belief Instinct' was a programme demonstarting how [implied] stupid gullible people could have a religous conversion through suggestion and indoctrination.

So the subliminal message was 'Aren't religous people fools?'.

Included in this programme were clear instructions on how to swear allegiance to Satan.

Of an audience of around 110 people 11 voluntered to swear allegiance to Satan "For his protection" as stated by Derren.

This involved reading from a Satanic Bible and stabing the photo of a beloved individual.

Now what is the result of such a programme, it is to have a cynical condesending attitude towards religion, and to promote Satanism as a viable 'superstitious/spiritual' option success.

Now wether Derren Brown knows it or not (though I suspect he does) he is promoting Satanism and is his servant.

Anyone who viewed/views that programme as harmless entertainment is seriously wrong.

Add to that Derren Brown's deep and in depth knowledge of the human psyche, he is fully aware of what he is doing, so it is deliberate, he is a satanist.

Do your own research google Derren Brown Satanist'.

Considering the above and looking at the episode on you tube it could be that the satanic ritual was made up by him. But I'm not going to watch it to find out and further even if he made up this ritual and if the 11th century book is fake, that does still not excuse it and I stand by what I have written above.

So listening to the end of that satanic ritual, he doesn't disclaim it as made up/false.

Below illustrates my point on where we are going both here and the rest of the world.


Britain
Lord suggests nuking Afghanistan border

[link to www.morningstaronline.co.uk]

Great thread!

Many thanks, O/P!

911, you are a victim, you are suffering (though you may not know it)you are a victim of 911.

PNAC's declared aims were only scratching the surface. Project for a New American Century (PNAC)? No, no,no,
Project for a Nazi American Century that is what the acronym really stands for.

All the shit we are going through, all deliberate. Why do you think Nixon is beloved in China? Because it was he that sold the Western economy down the river and that was in the 70's.

Just as Nazi Germany slowly spread it's tentacles across Europe and the world, so it is today.

The arab spring?

Popular revolution instigated and subverted by in essence counter reveloutionaries to remove a somewhat progressive moderate Arab dictatorship to install a Extreme Muslim fundemental state. The USA is illegally funding terrorism (Al Qieda) in the Syria covert and disguised war against Assad.

Obama Funding Al-Qaeda Rebels In Syria


What does this tell us about how the Statanic Illuminati Nazi's operate? They present something that is superficially beneficial but in truth is rotten and corrupted.

So 911 was the looking glass, we all went through it and you, me, all are victims.

What's that you say? Your a right winger, a believer in free markets, let the poor starve? Well that just confirms that you are a victim. You have had your heart calcified, through self interest and fear you have become a collaborator. You are no longer free you are a traitor to humanity.

What? What's that you say? Your doing very well?

Oh you are are you? Perhaps that is because you are brainwashed?

NO ONE should be comfortable right now. Because in all honesty it looks like it's not going to be the 1% that do OK in this shit sandwhich that is now world human society but the 0.1% and you are not on their wish list.

Casablanca La Marseillaise

What a great week for British democracy.

This week we had past proposed into law:

1. Gay Marriage. (Not voted for, not stated in manifesto)

Yes I support civil partnerships. But tell me wouldn't most religious homosexuals prefer not to marry in a church? Also Homosexual marriage means the sexualities beeing on par. So little Robbie and Roberta will soon be learning that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle choice. Which it is (I believe), but it is an alternative lifestyle choice and don't we all naturally want to present the ideal to our children not politically correct illuminati indoctrination.

Also what we see is the start of the government and the mass media attacking the Church for resisting gay marriage. We see the establishment trying to dictate morality to the church.

It is social engineering aimed at destroying the family.

2. Ministers support legalising drugs, (Not voted for, not stated in manifesto)even though on evidence current policies are reducing drugs, even though liberal licencing laws and cheap alcohol have proven disatrous.

3. GM crops (Not voted for, not stated in manifesto), environment secratery Owen patterson said "There are real personal enrichment benefits", oops sorry he said "there are real environmental benefits to GM crops"

4. We find British Government colluded (but there was no conspiracy in the murder of Belfast lawyer Pat Finucane. He was murdered just for being a lawyer, so what chance did John Smith, Diana, Mowlan, Cook have?

So what kind of 'conservative party is this? What kind of democracy is this? What kind of government is this?

Illuminati, satanic and fascist.

Interesting documentary, particularly when food shortages due to bad weather are now occuring.

[link to endtheilluminaticonspiracy.wordpress.com]

39.oo min. "And so the agenda was drought"

George Soros GM crops directly mentioned and Monsanto mentioned by implication.

Please take a look at all of todays entries. First entry looks at the illuminati/homosexual issue and my perceptions. Very subjective, I'm not saying I'm right, it's just my personal perspective.

The above documentary is incredibly important it informs us of who is in charge and the objectives.

By inference we can understand:

1. For corporate profit the US military is practising weather modification/control to steal (by cheaply) drought ravaged land.
2.The company and individual profiting from this is Monsanto and George Soros.
3.This tells us that Monsanto is really not a real/true company in the normal sense. It is rather a front company whose objective in this case is to appropriate land in an illegal/fascist/satanic way to promote/grow GM crops.
4.This in turn informs us that the goal of Monsanto is to have a monopoly on life. With it's terminator seeds farmers will be obliged to buy their seeds every year.
5. Taken as read that this company is truly satanic, this leads to the question what will they do with the power of 'monopoly on life' once they achieve it?
6. Further if George Soros and Monsanto have so much power to direct the US military, this informs us that (as we already know) that The US Government is infact a subsidury of US Corporations.
7. This tells us that the US citizen is no less than a by product of the power and profit motive of Satan Inc.
8. Lastly consider the terminator films. What if we substiute androids for GM crops?
7. Get the picture?

Very good read below.

But what they call imperialism I cal Satanist nazism

The West stepped up its intervention in the Syrian civil war this week, with the United States formally recognising the rebel coalition as "the legitimate representative" of the Syrian people.
As with France and Britain before it this is presented as an entirely reactive step, a response to events on the ground in Syria.
The truth is rather different.
After the end of the cold war many hoped we'd be entering a new era of peace and international co-operation.
Nato could be disbanded, our nuclear weapons could go and the money saved - the so-called "peace dividend" - could be spent on alleviating poverty.
But Western rulers had other ideas. The fall of the Soviet Union left a terrible power vacuum as there was no longer any real check on Western imperialism.
Instead of peace, we've had war, war and more war.
Over the past 20 years the US and its allies have intervened militarily in the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. And now they're threatening Syria and Iran.
It's a mistake to see these wars as stand-alone conflicts. They're all part of the same war - the war for total Western military and economic global domination.
Each intervention has followed a similar pattern and has been preceded by lies that would have made Goebbels proud.
Back in 1999 we were told by a certain Tony Blair that we simply had to intervene in Kosovo because Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic was "set on a Hitler-style genocide equivalent to the extermination of the Jews during World War II."
It wasn't true. In fact a low-level conflict was bubbling away in Yugoslavia between the Western-backed Kosovo Liberation Army terror organisation and government forces.
It was a conflict purposely stoked up by the West to provide a pretext for military assault and the final dismemberment of Yugoslavia.
In the words of George Kenney, an official at the US State Department's Yugoslav office, "in post-cold war Europe no place remained for a large, independent-minded socialist state that resisted globalisation."
In 2001 we were told we had to attack Afghanistan because the government there was hiding Osama bin Laden.
But plans to attack the Taliban had already been made before the September 11 attacks.
In 2003 we were told - once again by Blair - that we had to invade Iraq because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that "could be activated within 45 minutes."
That too of course was a blatant lie.
Last year we were told we had to intervene in Libya for "humanitarian reasons" as Colonel Gadaffi was going to massacre the citizens of Benghazi. Regime change was not the aim - we, the West, were intervening to save lives.
And of course that was a lie too.
Let's take a look at the results of these "humanitarian interventions."
Former Canadian ambassador to Yugoslavia James Bisset has described the results of the 1999 war in an article entitled Towards a Mafia State in Kosovo.
He tells of "a systematic purging of the non-Albanian population and a rampage of revenge killing and destruction. Kosovo, since its so-called liberation from Serbia, has become a failed state with massive unemployment, crime and corruption."
Nevertheless, Bisset says, "Kosovo is the stepchild of the US-led Nato powers, and therefore must be seen as a success. Nato and its cheerleaders cannot admit to failure."
In Afghanistan, Operation Enduring Freedom has brought over 10 years of death and destruction to Afghan civilians as well as soldiers from Britain and other countries.
In Iraq around a million people have been killed since the invasion. The country has effectively been destroyed, torn apart by civil war.
Libya's a similar case. As Guardian columnist Seumas Milne has said: "If the Libyan war was about saving lives it was a catastrophic failure." Nato's actions increased the death toll tenfold, and since then we've seen ongoing vicious tribal warfare and racist attacks on black Africans.
Now the war machine that sowed death and destruction from Belgrade to Baghdad and from Kabul to Tripoli has moved on to Iran and Syria. And once again the lies have been outrageous.
In Syria we're told that President Bashar al-Assad has no or very little support and is only being kept in power by the dastardly Russians, who are only concerned with their own self-interest - unlike the West, of course.
But it's Western powers and their regional allies which have been helping to push Syria towards civil war.
Intervention against Syria has already begun. In the summer the New York Times reported that CIA officers were operating secretly in Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters would receive arms to fight the Syrian government.
Philip Giraldi, a former CIA field officer, revealed earlier this year in the American Conservative magazine that French and British special forces were on the ground in Turkey assisting the Syrian rebels, while the CIA and US special ops were providing equipment and intelligence to help the rebel cause.
The West wants us to believe that it's like a firefighter, wanting to put out the blaze currently raging in Syria.
But the reality is that they're the arsonists.
Hillary Clinton and William Hague would like us to think they want to see a democratic Syria. But attempts by Russia and China to bring rebels and the government to the negotiating table have been pooh-poohed.
In February Syrians voted in a referendum for a new, democratic constitution, which was backed by 89 per cent of those voting. As Russia Today reported, the vote was a historic one since it would "put an end to five decades of one-party rule."
What was the reaction of the Western powers? This was a "cynical ploy," according to Clinton. A "sham," according to German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle.
The European Union responded to the move by slapping even tougher sanctions on Damascus.
In fact, democracy is the very last thing the Western imperialists want to see in Syria.
They want to forcibly replace the Ba'athist government there with a new puppet regime.
The greatest crime of the Assad government in their eyes is not its human rights record. Countries with worse records are Western allies.
It is that Syria is an ally of Iran and Russia, and supports the Palestinian resistance. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak has said Assad's fall would be a blow to Hezbollah and Hamas.
The hypocrisy of the so-called "liberal interventionists" is glaring.
We must intervene in Syria to stop civilians being murdered by the government.
But they didn't say the same thing when Lebanese civilians were being killed by Israeli air strikes in 1996, or when Palestinian women and children were slaughtered in the brutal and repeated Israeli assaults on Gaza.
I won't accept lectures on morality from the defenders of Operation Cast Lead, or the assault on Lebanon where a third of those killed were under the age of 12, or the fans of the crime of the century, the illegal and murderous invasion of Iraq.
Syria is being targeted because regime change in Damascus is an essential preliminary to an attack on Iran. And again, with Iran, the lies have been outrageous.
Iran threatens us all with its nuclear weapons programme, we're told, by the same people who peddled the lie about Iraqi WMDs. You wouldn't think they have the nerve, but they do.
Iran has every right to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, which is what it says it is doing. And even if it were secretly developing nuclear weapons, why are the Western powers and Israel allowed them if it isn't?
Unlike those countries, Iran hasn't attacked anyone.
The war against Iran has already begun. Its scientists have been murdered in cold blood, including one who was shot dead outside his daughter's nursery school last summer.
If Western scientists were being murdered by Iranian secret agents the planes to bomb Tehran would be leaving within the hour.
And Iran is subject to ever tighter economic sanctions.
We need to expose the lies of the warmongers and put our country on a radically different path - that of peace, justice and respect for international law.
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Below a very very good discussion on Author Henry Makow's radio programme.

Not easy listen interupted by adverts, but worthy nevertheless.

The Satanic Cult that Rules the World

In short serious food prices rises on the way and hunger, as the mass media has already stated by way of 'Think Tanks'.

Please take a look at all of todays entries.