stupid Americans: Socialism is not Communism

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The goal of socialism is communism.

- Vladimir Lenin

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By your own submission, it is acknowledged that Socialism is a "more primitive step in evolution" in the pursuit of that goal of total communism.

So Obama is starting at Socialism, and will have to work hard to move us "up" to the next step, low-level Communism! Thank God you've enlightened us as to what the difference is, so we can be very wary not to take the next step "UP". LOL

It ain't just obama, buddy.

GM, Chrysler Think "redistribution of wealth" is VERY GOOD Idea!
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Even though you McCain stooges would rather ignore it.

We aren't all stupid.

Some of you may find this news article revealing.

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What a manifesto! Biased much, comrade?

Yeah and Lenin is dead. Many European countries have been governed by socialist leaders without wishing to be communist.

GLP panel listen...wasn't Woodstock both a socialism/communism model for the world to see or was it only communism

There is a place of moderation somewhere between the extremes of human ideology. This is where we should be. The difficulty has always been, where is the middle ground?

Ego will dictate self esteem.......
Self esteem will dictate arrogance.......
Arrogance will dictate conflict.......
Conflict will dictate War......
War will dictate death.......

Who among you have no ego?

McCain calls Obama a Socialist but...
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McCain is actually a Socialist himself.
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Socialism IS communism!!!
The great stupid here is the OP.
Go to read freak!
Go to study!
Look for facts idiot!!!

Socialism is the first step.. marxism.. then communism all have been tried and all have failed. It will be a cold day in hell before real AMericans will vote in someone who believes in stealing from someone to give to someone else.. go earn your own damned money leave mine alone!

Socialism is the bridge to communism.

Hey friend, looky here:

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I agree let's have a cold war with Spain, Norway and some other European countries.

Capitalism is dead too.
So fuck them all.

OP: that's the thing. it doesn't matter what oppression is called on paper. it tends to always be the same with a few holding power over millions. you think that Stalin really spread wealth any differently than Marx, China, Or the Eastern Bloc? Nope. It' was all oppression.

When a government takes away what you have earned and gives it to someone that has not, it is robbery.It's not for the running of government, it's indentured servitude. That's what communism, socialism, fascism, totalitarianism IS.

Ever lived with a true socialist OP? They were called REDS UNDER THE BED in the last century.

Where there is no spiritual freedom there is always oppression.

Lotus

in russia waiting list for yrs for highly educated man and wife to get a small no frills apt of thier own...stuck with relatives..russian females prefer only 1 child for ovious reason. future hardships would make it tuff for woman alone with kids.....

The communist conspiracy edited the definition to throw you.

What they claim communism is and what they do with it are two different things.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) This was the first communist country although patterned after the French Revolution.


Communist China (CCP) This is still a communist country.


North Korea, Cuba, United Nations and world socialism.

Marxism - a Time Line
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The Marxist dream of a one world dictatorship is now closer than ever to achieving it’s goal. They’ve been working to achieve their goal for a long, long time - the following time line will give you an idea of how long, as well as showing just how deeply entrenched within the political establishment the Marxist cancer really is!

KARL MARX.1818-1883
Marx was a German Jew with radical views.

In 1842 he became a member of the Hegelians an anti-religious,radical group with Satanic interests.

In 1843 he left Germany and went to Paris where he met Engels who helped him financially.

In 1845 he was expelled from Paris.

In 1848 went to live in Brussels were he wrote the Communist Manifesto.

In 1849 Marx moved to London and lived there for the rest of his life.

In 1864 following the establishment of the Working Men’s Association. Marx worked for many years on the affairs of First International. “Das Kapital” was published 1867.

MARX died in 1883 in London and is buried in Highgate Cemetery.

THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO INCLUDES:
The Abolition of Private Property
The Abolition of the Family.
The Abolition of Countries and Nationalities.

The Abolition of all Religions, morality and Religious Liberty,

The Abolition of Freedom of conscience.

The word Communist covers anyone who aspires to World Government. Marxism works towards achieving World Government and World Dictatorship.

MARX WITH HIS FRIENDS
Marx and his friends Engles and Balunin received their ideas from Moses Hess, the founder of the German Social Democrat Party. Moses Hess taught that to gain a World State it could only be brought about by a revolution using class and racial hatred. He said race struggle is primary, class struggle is secondary.”

Mikhail Balunin said “That whatever the name or label of those who aspire to world government, they must be prepared to awake the devil in people and stir their passions for them to act.”

Passion, as with football hooligans, vandals and various peace groups and the race groups.

THREE REQUIREMENTS TO BECOME A MARXIST
Marx wrote three requirements for those who wished to join the fight for World Government.

1 To read the Communist and Revolutionary teachings of Marx and associates and work accordingly.
2 To work to destabilise nations both morally and financially.
3 To work to gain political control of the MONEY supply and the ASSETS of each Nation and put them BEYOND the REACH and CONTROL of each Government by ensuring that nations become INTER-DEPENDANT on each other for FOOD, MACHINERY and through LOANS.

Marx also said, “Steps should be taken to provide a master race to produce Leaders and Dictators”
(Could the first or second generation now be in place?)

RUSSIA 1917.
The Bolsheviks needed a good military base to succeed in their bid for world government. In the 19th Century the Bolsheviks tried to taker-over Russia and failed. In 1917 under cover of the First World War they started their second Campaign against RUSSIA, this time from a good military base. They seized control of BANKS and THE MONEY SUPPLY and STOCKS of FOOD. As the food ran out the people became too weak to fight the Bolsheviks terrorists. They are one arm of an organisation which seeks to bring about a one world state.

When Russia fell to the Bolsheviks. LENIN who was the LEADER of the SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY and became the first DICTATOR of the UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALIST REPUBLICS. Many of the countries surrounding Russia also became Communists states.

COMMUNIST INTERNATIONAL 1928
In 1928 The Communist International presented a three-stage plan for world government.

1 To level the economies of all nations by introducing a single currency.
2 To bring about REGIONAL UNION between various groups of Socialist Nations.
3 To amalgamate all these REGIONAL groups into the finale–the Worldwide Union of Socialist States.

COMMUNIST INTERNATIONAL 1938
In 1938 in the Communist International there appeared an official statement. It said “Dictatorship can only be established by the victory of Socialism in different countries. Then the joining of all the
other republics could complete the UNION OF SOCIALIST SOVIET REPUBLICS.”

1942 STALIN’S COMMUNIST GOAL. A WORLD MADE OF REGIONS.

Stalin defined the Intermediate goals of Communism necessary for the final take-over of the World.

1 TO CONFUSE, DISORGANISE AND DESTROY THE FORCES OF CAPITALISM AROUND THE WORLD.

2 TO BRING ALL NATIONS TOGETHER INTO A SINGLE WORLD SYSTEM. REGIONALISM.

3 Force advanced Countries to pour prolonged finance into under-developed Countries.

4 Divide the world into REGIONAL groups at the transitional stage to total World Government, then populations will more readily abandon their loyalty to their countries and accept loyalty to their REGION instead. Later the REGIONS can all be brought together into WORLD DICTATORSHIP.

5 We will indoctrinate the youth to embrace Marxism (under other labels ) as the correct and political social viewpoint.

6 Neutralise youth against religious influences of home and all other concepts of rigid morality which might interfere with the acceptance of Marxism and communist doctrine.

1942 at the same time, STALIN was co-operating with nations in the West to lay the foundations for the United Nations Organisation.

1943 A PAN NATIONAL ORGANISATION. THE UNITED NATIONS ORGANISATION

1. The formation of the United Nations Organisation was a necessary preliminary for the Russian Soviets.
2. In 1943 it was agreed that the post of Secretary General and Political Affairs should always be held by a nominee of the USSR.
3. The United Nations Buildings in New York contains a Satanic Chapel. This reflects the same theme.
4. In 1947 a Document was published “Design for Europe” promoting a United Nations Army. The army was eventually inaugurated in 1993. The creation of the EEC, The Treaty of Rome and the Treaty to Establish the European Union has been absolutely crucial for the plans for Communism and World Dictatorship.



THE DESTABILISATION OF THE BRITISH POLITICAL SYSTEM
In 1946 THE UNITED NATIONS ORGANISATION gained influence into the Sovereignty of the UNITED KINGDOM by THE STATUTORY INSTRUMENT ACT 1946 and three weeks later the UNITED NATIONS ACT 1946 which was brought before the HOUSE OF COMMONS when most Members had gone home. These two Acts ensured that the COMMUNIST wishes of the UNITED NATIONS SECRETARIAT and UNESCO are implemented in this country without making it obvious.

HAROLD WILSON signed an agreement with Soviet Union committing the British Government to back plans for a WORLD GOVERNMENT DICTATORSHIP. (Command paper 5924).


THE COMMUNIST HIDDEN AGENDA
Infiltration from the top
In Britain in 1940 at a meeting in Oxford the speaker Harold Wilson explained to the understanding audience how they could help make World Government happen. They should not join the Communist party they should join the Conservatives or Labour parties and lean to the Right and Left of those parties, so that when the time was right they must then create a smoke screen and come together as a party of national unity. He said confidently that one day he would be Prime Minister and so he was.


GAINING CONTROL OF THE FOOD SUPPLIES
In 1998 at a meeting of Agriculture Ministers in Brussels the EU’s long term plans for Britain were unfolded They said; Livestock farming in the Britain would be abolished and changed to Arable farming. This would take place without the consent of the British people.

Dr Zivago Omar Shariff and Julie Christie 1965 .. The Dr. comes home, during russian revolution war, to his family and his family mansion, and finds 15 families living there wearing his stuff ..and roaming all around proudly using his wealth for thier own welbeing....could this happen in advanced Obamaland.

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THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD

The funny part is that they convinced everyone that affordable, reliable healthcare was what Lenin was all about.

Socialism and Communism both hold the same core belief of Interdependence. That the Individual must make sacrifice's for the betterment of the whole.

This is Collectivism.


And Americans oppose it by raising the banner of individualism.

HOW is demanding that there be a LIMIT between rich and poor the same as trying to make everything equal.



Some people in this world own more than 50 billion, or 60 billion if you believe in the "conspiracies".



For one person.






Why not say that no person can own more than one billion?




Or maybe just five hundred million?










That still a hell of a lot of money, right?

Maybe capitalism should be peppered with a good shake of communism.

Stupid world, dictators and tyrants do not care what political party they are in.



The blood is on their hands, and we pay the price in increased radicalism, tanked economies, social injustice, and so much more.





They spent five decades teaching us that anyone who gave to the poor was a communist, and then to pretend Jesus didnt spend his whole life telling people to do just that.