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**ZetaMax**

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I appreciate your insights, and you have been very candid in explaining how you came to 'break up' with Nancy's cult. It may be that such breaking points are unique to the believer/individual in question, and there's no way to come up with a true 'goal post' that would work for everyone addicted to Nancy's claims. Certainly her plethora of past failures didn't end her cult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Correct.
This can go deep enough as that only YOU can convince yourself of smth. being otherwise.

Making "reality" more obvious certainly helps awakening but probably there are harder states of denial aswell.. so at the end its totally up to the individual and this is were the Mods are currently, I believe.

A true "goal post" was something I tried with my doc until I realized that I cannot brake these mental-barriers that some people have set up to themselves, but it worked to a good extend for some and I know at least a handful of people who significantly changed their minds/lifes in accordance. - Yes the "break point" is definetly very individual.


The idea that anyone would hold onto Nancy's ideas with Heaven's Gate-like fervor is troubling, particularly given the quality of those ideas is terribly low. But, then, so was the Heaven's Gate idea itself, I suppose.
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Yes, it is troublesome and dangerous.
I know of at least one example were someone intended to do something stupid in order to bring "ZT into the News"...

And if someone imagines this to an extreme then it might turn out to be a real threat.

Nancy does not call for these things, (I guess she even dislikes the idea because it could bring very bad attention to her cult), but some people just go on their own and start to get outta control in this regard.

Fortunately the mindset is not as radical (in terms of self-destroying, martyrdom, or harming others) as other ideologies on this planet..but still it is very destructive in terms of social contacts, social position, state of mind and future plans.

In that, anyone who counters her disinfo is truely doing a great service for their fellow man.

Be well, and thank you for replying. And keep on keeping on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Cheers. :) It is very intriguing for me aswell. I suspected Nancy would be thrown out weeks ago but I encountered unforseen hurdles (somehow I cant touch em :P )..

All in its proper time.. the poleshift may encounter a poleshift.
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>> In that, anyone who counters her disinfo is truely doing a great service for their fellow man.

Yep - throwing the baby out with the bathwater is "a great service for their fellow man."

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>> In that, anyone who counters her disinfo is truely doing a great service for their fellow man.

Yep - throwing the baby out with the bathwater is "a great service for their fellow man."

:dubious_cat:


How do you figure?

What 'baby' is getting thrown out with the 'Planet X isn't coming to destroy the Earth' bathwater?
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The idea that anyone would hold onto Nancy's ideas with Heaven's Gate-like fervor is troubling, particularly given the quality of those ideas is terribly low. But, then, so was the Heaven's Gate idea itself, I suppose.
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Yes, it is troublesome and dangerous.
I know of at least one example were someone intended to do something stupid in order to bring "ZT into the News"...

And if someone imagines this to an extreme then it might turn out to be a real threat.

Nancy does not call for these things, (I guess she even dislikes the idea because it could bring very bad attention to her cult), but some people just go on their own and start to get outta control in this regard.

Fortunately the mindset is not as radical (in terms of self-destroying, martyrdom, or harming others) as other ideologies on this planet..but still it is very destructive in terms of social contacts, social position, state of mind and future plans.

In that, anyone who counters her disinfo is truely doing a great service for their fellow man.

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I have mentioned in the past how my involvement with nancy LIEder began, with a friend who was a successful businessman and family man until falling into the 2003 poleshift garbage from nancy. He lost his business, lost his family and ended up living on the streets, until he finally disappeared for good back around 2005
Nobody knows if he is still alive or not- he may have come to his senses and realising that he could never be a respected businessman again in my home town, may have moved elsewhere where his reputation was unknown and started again- I hope so, for his sake, but as he was last seen penniless and living under bridges, he may have either committed suicide and his body not found, or been killed, or simply died of malnutrition or disease

In any case, nobody, family or friends has heard from him in over 7 years- hence my `dislike' for peddlers of such b/s and pity for their supporters
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>> In that, anyone who counters her disinfo is truely doing a great service for their fellow man.

Yep - throwing the baby out with the bathwater is "a great service for their fellow man."

:dubious_cat:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


How do you figure?

What 'baby' is getting thrown out with the 'Planet X isn't coming to destroy the Earth' bathwater?


The now rather stinky and rather greenish baterwater that melfy is anything but a full on doomtard...

;-)

This bathwater should never have been run in the first place
and zetababble was, is and will continue to be a dangerous cult, with the potential to ruin peoples lives- all because of the mental instability/ greed of a wannabe failed cult LIEder.....
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The US has announced a new base in eastern Australia, as they hope to jump to the newly habitable lands of Antarctica quickly after the Pole Shift, partnering with Australia and Britain in this regard
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

What new base ??

We rejected the relocation of the US carrier and its support fleet to be moved from the US east coast to a naval base south of Perth.

We tread a fine line between upsetting either our closest defence ally or our biggest trading partner.


Of course, she could be referring to the new deal allowing a Us marine training camp in Darwin.Looking at its finer detail, i can't imagine the 2500 rotated marines will make a lot of impact leading the new Antarctic invasion force. There are more US military working at the top-secret pine gap facility.

Darwin isn't eastern Australia.

Zeta wrong again
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And somebody from the former moderators tried to meet earlier this old woman? If yes, that what impressions remained?
Thanks!
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And Flareberto aka the man with the lense flares seems to be the last resort for the confused Zetas, who forgot everything: science, photography, maths and so on ...

So probably a lense flare will be the start of the 8/10 ...
Nothing new in Nancyland apart from some very bad jokes and hoaxes.

This dirty little hoax is so obvious now. It is incredible that there are still some stupid people who buy this poleshit.

They will keep on waiting till 2020, 2030, 2040...
30/10! Open end! What a shame for the modern times of internet which seem to go back there in the deepest middle age. I sometimes wonder why Astrogal50 and Gerard Zwaan got so quiet. Do they have no more old floppy-disks at home? It is a shame, especially when you consider how they abuse and manipulate people over there.

@ Gerard Zwaan:
Stop the fraud and close the poleshift-ning. Otherwise your soul will burn for centuries in deepest hell. And for a good reason! Zetas wrong again, what means nothing more like Nancy wrong again: like always.

I hope they all have a nice holiday over there in Indonesia together, when this freakshow is over.
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And Flareberto aka the man with the lense flares seems to be the last resort for the confused Zetas, who forgot everything: science, photography, maths and so on ...

So probably a lense flare will be the start of the 8/10 ...
Nothing new in Nancyland apart from some very bad jokes and hoaxes.

This dirty little hoax is so obvious now. It is incredible that there are still some stupid people who buy this poleshit.

They will keep on waiting till 2020, 2030, 2040...
30/10! Open end! What a shame for the modern times of internet which seem to go back there in the deepest middle age. I sometimes wonder why Astrogal50 and Gerard Zwaan got so quiet. Do they have no more old floppy-disks at home? It is a shame, especially when you consider how they abuse and manipulate people over there.

@ Gerard Zwaan:
Stop the fraud and close the poleshift-ning. Otherwise your soul will burn for centuries in deepest hell. And for a good reason! Zetas wrong again, what means nothing more like Nancy wrong again: like always.

I hope they all have a nice holiday over there in Indonesia together, when this freakshow is over.
 Quoting: Truther 24000423


I feel you, but in my opinion you project your emotions to the wrong people.
Gerard and Astrogal are not aware that they are misleading people, the same counts for the rest of the Moderators.

In my mind you cannot exclusively blame someone who is not aware of the problem.

To the contrary Nancy is fully aware of her agenda so she takes full responsibility of her actions.

Yes, Gerard needs to stop this or at least remove Nancy and ZT from the Ning - but this can only happen if he realizes that ZT was just hot air..
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And somebody from the former moderators tried to meet earlier this old woman? If yes, that what impressions remained?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I am not exactly sure what info you are seeking but I guess you are asking if someone met Nancy in real life or something similar?

If so,
in 97' a group of amateur-astronomers went to visit her for a "Hale-Bopp-party", [link to www.laughton.com]
[link to www.laughton.com]

It seems they weren't really successful in approaching her in person though.

However, when I was a Mod I attended to the weekly Skype-sessions and these included webcam-feed at the very start. - Nancy included.

What impressions remained?

Pretty much the same like she appears over the net.
Rather chatty, deceptive smile, legere talking and her smooth granma-voice as usual.

She even did alleged "live ZTs" over Skype on occasion, usally pre-written texts(when the topics were discussed previously) or rather poor, stagnant freestyle-ZetaTalks that didn't really left anything tangible.

Certainly she knows how to lie you flat in the face without revealing too much clues via body language - despite sound-only which is a cake for her.

If you want some footage check "the zetas talk" on youtube, she basically appears like that.

Some other interesting facts in this context:
- She always used to keep her garden clean and all the preparation-stuff etc. in case the media would pop-up. ( Hey, the theory does need to be credible if anyone is supposed to buy it from the guru himself. A garden with vegetables, saving seeds - A must.)

- She didn't liked the Webcam-feed for long, on occasion she just left her feed out until it was completly discarded to save bandwith ( I guess she felt a little uncomfortable, face to face),

- She was constantly lagging during the skype-sessions (every couple of seconds) and she claimed that the goverment is aiming microwaves at her telephone-line to interrupt the calls. - More preciesly, microwaves that supposedly do not influence regular-calls but only the internet-connection.... Nifty, eh?

- I didn't see much of her home because her webcam was always pointed towars a wall so it was basically her and her black cat that occasionally wandered along the view.

In all, impressions of a 70+ year old woman that still does well know how to lie and manipulate... and may it be face to face if needed.
hf
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Well, no baby today. Guess she's going to be late like her sister. Oh well. If she doesn't come tomorrow she gets served with an eviction Thursday morning.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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More about Tunnel-Vision ,yes, about it I also wanted to learn. Thanks for the detailed answer and the link about a trip of astronomers to Nancy.
It is in any case interesting to learn, than all this will end. 17 years to devote itself to zetatalk.com site and to finish anything - somehow not so interestingly.
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alert_2

Just a reminder: WE ARE JUST ***FIVE*** DAYS AWAY FROM THE 2nd PRE-CATACLYSM!!!! (a date endorsed by Clif!)

[link to www.ourtransition.info]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


TRANSLATION: WE ARE JUST ***FIVE*** DAYS AWAY FROM MAX'S LATEST FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


siren2 UPDATE!!! siren2

The Russian Scientists have posted a new article discussing SAFE LOCATIONS for the imminent 2nd Pre-Cataclysm of ENORMOUS POWER that will hit the earth THIS SATURDAY!!!!

Thankfully, Chicago is SAFE!:

Edgar Cayce stated that Chicago and surrounding areas will not be affected. The safety of these places is caused by location of very strong magnetic anomaly «Temagami» – The Temagami Magnetic Anomaly.

[link to www.ourtransition.info]

You should be making final preparations NOW!!!

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You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
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Max, be truthful, how many times have you made final preperations?
You seem to think every given doom date is fact.
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You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
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Max, be truthful, how many times have you made final preperations?
You seem to think every given doom date is fact.
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I've lost count.

Just keep in mind:

"Past performance is no indication of future performance."
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:alert_2:

Just a reminder: WE ARE JUST ***FIVE*** DAYS AWAY FROM THE 2nd PRE-CATACLYSM!!!! (a date endorsed by Clif!)

[link to www.ourtransition.info]
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


TRANSLATION: WE ARE JUST ***FIVE*** DAYS AWAY FROM MAX'S LATEST FAIL!!!!
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


siren2 UPDATE!!! siren2

The Russian Scientists have posted a new article discussing SAFE LOCATIONS for the imminent 2nd Pre-Cataclysm of ENORMOUS POWER that will hit the earth THIS SATURDAY!!!!

Thankfully, Chicago is SAFE!:

Edgar Cayce stated that Chicago and surrounding areas will not be affected. The safety of these places is caused by location of very strong magnetic anomaly «Temagami» – The Temagami Magnetic Anomaly.

[link to www.ourtransition.info]

You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


And that's going to be $40 he owes the Predictions-jar...
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You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Max, be truthful, how many times have you made final preperations?
You seem to think every given doom date is fact.
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I've lost count.

Just keep in mind:

"Past performance is no indication of future performance."
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Yes, it is.
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Well, it is the same like with Nancytalk aka Zetatalk.
Fail is a guarantee.

And soon means never. So it will be fun seeing him to try to explain his latest fail.

That was all he/ she could expect. Sometimes life is really fair.
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A question to the old-timer here:

It seems there is a successor of Nancy Lieder: Daersoulkeeper

The creme de la creme of the Nibirutards.

At the moment three "Niburu is near" threads:
Thread: PROOF and History of Wormwood, Nibiru, Hercolubus, The dragon, Planet X, Hidden Message in movie BABYLON AD - New VIDEO
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts
Thread: Planet X Visible to the world on the 17th admitted by TPTB

Deletes every post that proves him wrong and if the poster is a registered member bans him.

E.g.
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts

Someone mentioned, Daersoulkeeper saw Jupiter.
Daersoulkeeper: I know where Venus and Jupiter are. It's not Venus or Jupiter.
Netxt day she/he deleted the post and corrected his post to: I know where Venus is. It's not Venus.


Any idea how to handle this?

Is it possible to make a thread "Daersoulkeepers PlanetX/Nibiru - uncesored" or would this regarded as "Abusive post/thread"?
 Quoting: Hydra

<irony>Thank you all for the many answers - it will take some time to read through it.</irony>

At least some readers of my post went to his threads and commented.
As expected: registered members banned, all posts proving him wrong deleted.


May be one of the Mods can answer my question:
Is it possible to make a thread "Daersoulkeepers PlanetX/Nibiru - uncesored" or would this regarded as "Abusive post/thread"?



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A question to the old-timer here:

It seems there is a successor of Nancy Lieder: Daersoulkeeper

The creme de la creme of the Nibirutards.

At the moment three "Niburu is near" threads:
Thread: PROOF and History of Wormwood, Nibiru, Hercolubus, The dragon, Planet X, Hidden Message in movie BABYLON AD - New VIDEO
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts
Thread: Planet X Visible to the world on the 17th admitted by TPTB

Deletes every post that proves him wrong and if the poster is a registered member bans him.

E.g.
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts

Someone mentioned, Daersoulkeeper saw Jupiter.
Daersoulkeeper: I know where Venus and Jupiter are. It's not Venus or Jupiter.
Netxt day she/he deleted the post and corrected his post to: I know where Venus is. It's not Venus.


Any idea how to handle this?

Is it possible to make a thread "Daersoulkeepers PlanetX/Nibiru - uncesored" or would this regarded as "Abusive post/thread"?




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 Quoting: Hydra


Sorry I didn't comment earlier. Daersoulkeeper's posts seem so outlandish that I half wondered if he was trolling. So MANY bad astronomical ideas out there...

I wouldn't *think* it would be labeled an abusive thread (depending on how it was presented, of course), insofar as his deleting of ideas contrary to his own seems to demand that a contrary post be created detailing those deleted ideas. However, what do I know?
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A question to the old-timer here:

It seems there is a successor of Nancy Lieder: Daersoulkeeper

The creme de la creme of the Nibirutards.

At the moment three "Niburu is near" threads:
Thread: PROOF and History of Wormwood, Nibiru, Hercolubus, The dragon, Planet X, Hidden Message in movie BABYLON AD - New VIDEO
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts
Thread: Planet X Visible to the world on the 17th admitted by TPTB

Deletes every post that proves him wrong and if the poster is a registered member bans him.

E.g.
Thread: i swear i saw wormwood last 2:30-3 am in my telescope - massachusetts

Someone mentioned, Daersoulkeeper saw Jupiter.
Daersoulkeeper: I know where Venus and Jupiter are. It's not Venus or Jupiter.
Netxt day she/he deleted the post and corrected his post to: I know where Venus is. It's not Venus.


Any idea how to handle this?

Is it possible to make a thread "Daersoulkeepers PlanetX/Nibiru - uncesored" or would this regarded as "Abusive post/thread"?




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 Quoting: Hydra


Sorry I didn't comment earlier. Daersoulkeeper's posts seem so outlandish that I half wondered if he was trolling. So MANY bad astronomical ideas out there...

I wouldn't *think* it would be labeled an abusive thread (depending on how it was presented, of course), insofar as his deleting of ideas contrary to his own seems to demand that a contrary post be created detailing those deleted ideas. However, what do I know?
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Well that was why this thread was started in the first place as nancy behaved exactly the same, deleting posts and banning anyone who dared disagree with her- so its not as if there isn't a precedent set for it to happen....
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Yes. That's how this thread started. I think you have to be careful about the title of the thread though or the "offended" person can complain and have it removed by the mods. I know that happened to a few threads that were started to counter Candace the Kook's threads because she was ban happy with people that called her out on her bs. As long as the title challenges the subject and not the author I think it should be ok, but free speech isn't what it used to be on this site, which is why I don't participate as much as I used to.
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The Russian Scientists have posted a new article discussing SAFE LOCATIONS for the imminent 2nd Pre-Cataclysm of ENORMOUS POWER that will hit the earth THIS SATURDAY!!!!

Thankfully, Chicago is SAFE!:

Edgar Cayce stated that Chicago and surrounding areas will not be affected. The safety of these places is caused by location of very strong magnetic anomaly «Temagami» – The Temagami Magnetic Anomaly.


You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Are those the same Russian scientists that Sucha Fool always quotes but does not name?




Good, if it's saturday there should be a lot of traffic on the bands. I've got two new (well, new to me) Icom 706's to play with.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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You should be making final preparations NOW!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Oh, I'm making preparations alright - preparations for your next failure.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Good, if it's saturday there should be a lot of traffic on the bands. I've got two new (well, new to me) Icom 706's to play with.
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I'm still waiting on my new SteppIR 2 element Yagi. My previous one was taken out by lightning at the end of July...along with the radio. The radio (FT-950) has been replaced but SteppIR has a 7-8 week wait time. I'm hoping the 40/30M element on the old one still works because if it does, I'm going to get a longer boom and turn the 2 element into a 3 element.
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Good, if it's saturday there should be a lot of traffic on the bands. I've got two new (well, new to me) Icom 706's to play with.
 Quoting: bob_909


I'm still waiting on my new SteppIR 2 element Yagi. My previous one was taken out by lightning at the end of July...along with the radio. The radio (FT-950) has been replaced but SteppIR has a 7-8 week wait time. I'm hoping the 40/30M element on the old one still works because if it does, I'm going to get a longer boom and turn the 2 element into a 3 element.
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Well...make that one 706 - sold the MKII but kept the less pretty MKIIG.

Beam? I wish I could put up a beam. I live in a condo and I have to be stealthy. Now if I lived full time at my house in Naples, I could put up all sorts of antennas.

I used to have a Mosley TA-53M beam on the Texas house - 100 watts and I could hit Japan with no trouble.

Oh well...

Don't you have a little on the way?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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well and today we see what we all knew we would see: another epic fail of Maxwell, the doom-follower.

This is the problem when you follow fals prophets like Nancy Lieder. In this process soon always means never ever. If these people really knew something about the future they only would have to predict the correct numbers for the lottery jackpot. So they are wasting the time of innocent people they abuse and leave in a world of constant fear and panic.

And the result will always be the same and I know that this prediction is the only one that really counts: because the result will be nothing.
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Don't you have a little on the way?
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Yes...the wife started feeling labor pains about 1:00 a.m. but waited an hour to see if it was just false labor. She finally called the hospital about 1:45 a.m. and they told her to come in. We got there around 2:30 and got all checked in by 3:00, at which point she was already dilated to 7 cm. At 5:00 she said it felt like it was time so I called for the nurse to come check on her. The nurse said she was dilated to 9 cm so the doctor was called. Kaitlyn was born at 5:18 a.m. - no epidural or pain management of any kind. This is the second one my wife has done all natural. She said it hurt like hell but the advantage is that the baby is fully alert and not drugged up when they're born.
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Don't you have a little on the way?
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Yes...the wife started feeling labor pains about 1:00 a.m. but waited an hour to see if it was just false labor. She finally called the hospital about 1:45 a.m. and they told her to come in. We got there around 2:30 and got all checked in by 3:00, at which point she was already dilated to 7 cm. At 5:00 she said it felt like it was time so I called for the nurse to come check on her. The nurse said she was dilated to 9 cm so the doctor was called. Kaitlyn was born at 5:18 a.m. - no epidural or pain management of any kind. This is the second one my wife has done all natural. She said it hurt like hell but the advantage is that the baby is fully alert and not drugged up when they're born.
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Congratulations.

Hope all is well with mother and child.
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Don't you have a little on the way?
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Yes...the wife started feeling labor pains about 1:00 a.m. but waited an hour to see if it was just false labor. She finally called the hospital about 1:45 a.m. and they told her to come in. We got there around 2:30 and got all checked in by 3:00, at which point she was already dilated to 7 cm. At 5:00 she said it felt like it was time so I called for the nurse to come check on her. The nurse said she was dilated to 9 cm so the doctor was called. Kaitlyn was born at 5:18 a.m. - no epidural or pain management of any kind. This is the second one my wife has done all natural. She said it hurt like hell but the advantage is that the baby is fully alert and not drugged up when they're born.
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>> ... fully alert and not drugged up when they're born.

I suppose you think that will help to assure she is a "debunker" like her father someday?

Congrats
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well and today we see what we all knew we would see: another epic fail of Maxwell, the doom-follower.

This is the problem when you follow fals prophets like Nancy Lieder. In this process soon always means never ever. If these people really knew something about the future they only would have to predict the correct numbers for the lottery jackpot. So they are wasting the time of innocent people they abuse and leave in a world of constant fear and panic.

And the result will always be the same and I know that this prediction is the only one that really counts: because the result will be nothing.
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>> well and today we see what we all knew we would see: another epic fail of Maxwell, the doom-follower.

Its too early for any "final" assessment.





GLP