California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32943040 United States 04/20/2019 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Professor Robert Bea: Quoting: Prayandprepare000 [link to alumni.berkeley.edu (secure)] A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM) Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished. Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious. Not to mention the fact that the Central Valley would be destroyed forever. CA will go tits up and take the whole US economy with it. Like the last close call in Hawaii it will look like an act of God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 04/20/2019 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Professor Robert Bea: Quoting: Prayandprepare000 [link to alumni.berkeley.edu (secure)] A UC Berkeley Engineering professor emeritus, one of the nation’s foremost forensic engineers, and the founder of Berkeley’s Center for Catastrophic Risk Management (CCRM) Bea: Yes, it is possible. And it would be worse than any of them. A breach at Oroville would send a wall of water down the Feather River, through the Sacramento Valley and ultimately into the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta. It would destroy towns along the Feather and Sacramento Rivers, flood major portions of Sacramento, and blow out levees throughout the Delta, permanently flooding much of the region. The huge government pumps near Tracy that send water to Southern California cities and farms would be incapacitated. There would be tremendous loss of life and property, and it would be years before a permanent water delivery system to the south state could be reestablished. Furthermore, it wouldn’t necessarily take a tremendous amount of rain and uncontrolled releases as we saw in February to trigger such a failure. It could happen on a bright, sunny summer’s day. The situation is that serious. Not to mention the fact that the Central Valley would be destroyed forever. CA will go tits up and take the whole US economy with it. Like the last close call in Hawaii it will look like an act of God. You are right as rain! They need this dam to blow in order to blame it for the most severe economic Depression this nation has ever seen. Call me crazy...but if you've been following this mess as closely as I have, you will know that they've been setting this dam up to fail. Do you think I'm crazy? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32943040 United States 04/20/2019 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care? Quoting: panther0621 It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop They spent almost Two Billion Dollars...and for what? The Fkn thing is still broken as hell. Hydro pressure from underneath the spillway are lifting the slabs. There's no doubt in my mind that the whole shit is going to collapse into a huge pile of shit and it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. I'm sure they put extra large drains under it this time. But what if these larger drains just let more water flow out of the hillside and under the spillway? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 04/20/2019 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I am shocked at the pictures of slabs failing already. Do citizens of california even know how much money is being obviously wasted ? Do they care? Quoting: panther0621 It might not happen tommorow but this dam is not in great shape and I would not be surprised to here when it does pop They spent almost Two Billion Dollars...and for what? The Fkn thing is still broken as hell. Hydro pressure from underneath the spillway are lifting the slabs. There's no doubt in my mind that the whole shit is going to collapse into a huge pile of shit and it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. I'm sure they put extra large drains under it this time. But what if these larger drains just let more water flow out of the hillside and under the spillway? If you remember correctly, they opened up the spillway a couple of weeks ago. They had to shut it down right away because the slabs were lifting and buckling. The pressure from underneath the slabs were lifting the slabs. |
JumboBucks User ID: 66381920 United States 04/20/2019 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed so what is gonna happen if it busts wide open? how many people will it affect? i live near a dam in tn, its the old hickory dam, it will flood nashville it it ever fails cause it releases its water to the cumberland river. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76322957 United States 04/21/2019 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Good video. It is really a shame in how little people understand about water management in the western USA. Too bad the vid ends on a sour note. He implies that disinformation is destroying the nation. Liberals have the solution to that problem, but of course they would destroy the nation with their demented view of what is really truth. Unfretted freedom of speech is still the best route in maintaining the availability of truth. |
Prayandprepare000 User ID: 74211141 United States 04/21/2019 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I think this is the guy bothering him. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Whack a doodle news......LOL. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75952980 United States 04/21/2019 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed oroblanko miss spoke, his sugar coating opinion that a lot of the snow pack has already melted and it will continue over time, snow report the other day said only 5% of the snow has melted so far. Playing down the situation helps no one. The snow pack remains at 150-165 percent of normal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69644528 United States 04/21/2019 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed so what is gonna happen if it busts wide open? how many people will it affect? i live near a dam in tn, its the old hickory dam, it will flood nashville it it ever fails cause it releases its water to the cumberland river. Quoting: JumboBucks If it goes, the demons in SF and LA and Sac will be in disarray all their sacrifices for naught. Satan's networks will be down. And there will be less fruit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77505897 United States 04/21/2019 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed so what is gonna happen if it busts wide open? how many people will it affect? i live near a dam in tn, its the old hickory dam, it will flood nashville it it ever fails cause it releases its water to the cumberland river. Quoting: JumboBucks If it goes, the demons in SF and LA and Sac will be in disarray all their sacrifices for naught. Satan's networks will be down. And there will be less fruit. If Oroville breaks Sacramento isn't going to exist anymore. |
shake it User ID: 77580561 United States 04/21/2019 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I had another dream about the dam last night it was close to being full and ready to overtop and a couple of workers there were thinking we better get the hell out of here before it goes. earthshaker |
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UH User ID: 70817168 United States 04/21/2019 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Finally fixed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75545597 9,905 16,784 10,053 41.84 13.4 04/15/2019 08:00 536.38 N 381,288 N 7,750 18,402 10,020 41.84 13.4 04/15/2019 09:00 0.00 N BRT N 7,775 20,950 10,026 41.84 13.4 04/15/2019 10:00 860.00 2,944,749 7,970 19,968 10,009 41.84 13.4 [link to cdec.water.ca.gov] [link to cdec.water.ca.gov] BUMP THE DATA |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77556714 United States 04/21/2019 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed IF they let the lake go above 875-880 then you can just about take it to the bank that something is seriously wrong with the "NEW" spillway. (remember their goal was 848 for the end of March) The snow melt run off going into the lake has been very consistent now for almost two weeks at about 17,000-18,000 cf/s while releases have been limited to the power plant and have been running 9,000 cf/s with some fluctuations during that same time frame. While the calendar says that the lake should peak in the next week, two weeks max based upon history, the heavy snow pack may draw that time frame out to a somewhat later date (one to two weeks imo). Any late in the season large scale rain event would compound their problems. Unfortunately for the DWR at the current "fill" rate the lake is going to rise PAST that 875 level before the peak is here, even withOUT any rain event ... which could mean trouble for them if the spillway issues are even half as bad as some are saying. (at the current fill rate the lake is rising about 1.4 feet per day - which means the lake will be 875 about the end of the day on Tuesday and it will hit about 880 sometime overnight next Friday night, early April 27ish) The higher the lake ... the MORE HYDRAULIC PRESSURE is placed upon the Dam, the dike, the gate structure and for forcing water through the "rotten" rock base of the gate/dike area. Waiting game for me ... and am sure for DWR too. I strongly believe that they have their fingers crossed that everything can hold together withOUT them having to reopen the gates and use the spillway again. No longer sure that is possible as I look at the current lake fill rate. Midwest Skeptic |
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