California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
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Grumpy User ID: 32582688 United States 06/08/2019 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Just two years ago the lake gained 50 feet in three days. Thank the lord that the weather is so stable across the country that crop plantings have not been so low at this date for a century or more. |
Crunch62 User ID: 34409171 United States 06/08/2019 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Crunch62 As I recall from 2017, outside power is required for the Hyatt Power PLant. I believe that is why the shoo fly overhead power poles were installed when the original towers were removed. IIRC, it's the other way around. The turbines have to push an electrical load to pass water. Or else something breaks or fries up. Don't the turbines need an external excitation current to produce output? Sorry, thinking of automotive alternators here. Surely, the turbines aren't simple dynamos with giant static magnets. Yes, turbines need rotor excitation. I'm a retired Turbine mechanic. The power input to the rotor is significant I might add. I suspect they may be able to use power from one turbine output to energize the next, cascading down the line. "Perhaps" Thanks for that. I did 20 years as an auto tech and 17 more as an IT guy. I think I still might have a basic understanding of how things work, LOL. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
Grumpy User ID: 32582688 United States 06/08/2019 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Workmen.....for reasons unknown....on the main spillway (ms) just today. Do not get me started about the gates. The ms is, again for reasons we know not, not going to be used any time soon, outflows through the Hyatt maybe going down, and inflows maybe going up. Another Sunday just tomorrow. |
Hnry Bwmn User ID: 75083029 United States 06/09/2019 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77013656 IIRC, it's the other way around. The turbines have to push an electrical load to pass water. Or else something breaks or fries up. Don't the turbines need an external excitation current to produce output? Sorry, thinking of automotive alternators here. Surely, the turbines aren't simple dynamos with giant static magnets. Yes, turbines need rotor excitation. I'm a retired Turbine mechanic. The power input to the rotor is significant I might add. I suspect they may be able to use power from one turbine output to energize the next, cascading down the line. "Perhaps" Thanks for that. I did 20 years as an auto tech and 17 more as an IT guy. I think I still might have a basic understanding of how things work, LOL. Not sure what the hydro units might require.... 250MW steam generators are like 22KV on the field or output windings. Don't recall what the rotors are rated. "Pissed Off Patriot" Retired Union Millwright, Turbine Mechanic <}~ Seeker of the Black Crown ~{> }> I Am the Storm <{ ~Hnry~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64698495 United States 06/09/2019 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Map of power outages Paveway IV ‏ @PavewayIV Following Following @PavewayIV More Nothing weird to see here. Map of PG&E's 'potential' shutoff areas on Saturday night. All of the dry, windy areas in California, and the foothils grid around #OrovilleDam is the only one that rates a blackout - tonight? 9 PM to noon tomorrow? Psychopaths.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64698495 United States 06/09/2019 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed [link to twitter.com (secure)] CAL FIRE ‏ Verified account @CAL_FIRE Follow Follow @CAL_FIRE More #SandFire off County Road 41 & Highway 16, Rumsey in Yolo County is 1,700 acres. Evacuations in effect. [link to www.fire.ca.gov] … |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/09/2019 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Crunch62 Don't the turbines need an external excitation current to produce output? Sorry, thinking of automotive alternators here. Surely, the turbines aren't simple dynamos with giant static magnets. Yes, turbines need rotor excitation. I'm a retired Turbine mechanic. The power input to the rotor is significant I might add. I suspect they may be able to use power from one turbine output to energize the next, cascading down the line. "Perhaps" Thanks for that. I did 20 years as an auto tech and 17 more as an IT guy. I think I still might have a basic understanding of how things work, LOL. Not sure what the hydro units might require.... 250MW steam generators are like 22KV on the field or output windings. Don't recall what the rotors are rated. Not sure of the type of generators hyatt uses, but I do know they upgraded the turbines not too too long ago, see if I can find the article I read a while back that talked about it. New stainless, modern material more efficient models the DWR was talking up. Far as I know, hyatt must be connected to the "Grid" to operate at all. I assume the overall power generation at least must have some load anyway, assuming a grid tie is the easiest fastest way to do it. I know in 2017 when the distribution lines went down, they couldn't operate until temp lines were linked up. Found article, talks up the new turbines, new runners too. oooh, they're austenitic AND nitronic, if they would have Titanium nitrited some stuff? it might have caused a cool metal term overload! [link to www.hydroworld.com (secure)] |
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#Geomagnetic_Storm# (OP) User ID: 77712603 United States 06/09/2019 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed [link to twitter.com (secure)] Quoting: Amanda Lee Map of power outages Paveway IV ‏ @PavewayIV Following Following @PavewayIV More Nothing weird to see here. Map of PG&E's 'potential' shutoff areas on Saturday night. All of the dry, windy areas in California, and the foothils grid around #OrovilleDam is the only one that rates a blackout - tonight? 9 PM to noon tomorrow? Psychopaths.. So stupid. Hide the electrical underground and problems solved. |
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Hnry Bwmn User ID: 75083029 United States 06/09/2019 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Hnry Bwmn Yes, turbines need rotor excitation. I'm a retired Turbine mechanic. The power input to the rotor is significant I might add. I suspect they may be able to use power from one turbine output to energize the next, cascading down the line. "Perhaps" Thanks for that. I did 20 years as an auto tech and 17 more as an IT guy. I think I still might have a basic understanding of how things work, LOL. Not sure what the hydro units might require.... 250MW steam generators are like 22KV on the field or output windings. Don't recall what the rotors are rated. Not sure of the type of generators hyatt uses, but I do know they upgraded the turbines not too too long ago, see if I can find the article I read a while back that talked about it. New stainless, modern material more efficient models the DWR was talking up. Far as I know, hyatt must be connected to the "Grid" to operate at all. I assume the overall power generation at least must have some load anyway, assuming a grid tie is the easiest fastest way to do it. I know in 2017 when the distribution lines went down, they couldn't operate until temp lines were linked up. Found article, talks up the new turbines, new runners too. oooh, they're austenitic AND nitronic, if they would have Titanium nitrited some stuff? it might have caused a cool metal term overload! [link to www.hydroworld.com (secure)] Thank you for that article. I enjoyed the mental workout reading the whole thing. "Pissed Off Patriot" Retired Union Millwright, Turbine Mechanic <}~ Seeker of the Black Crown ~{> }> I Am the Storm <{ ~Hnry~ |
Hnry Bwmn User ID: 75083029 United States 06/09/2019 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed [link to twitter.com (secure)] Quoting: Amanda Lee Map of power outages Paveway IV ‏ @PavewayIV Following Following @PavewayIV More Nothing weird to see here. Map of PG&E's 'potential' shutoff areas on Saturday night. All of the dry, windy areas in California, and the foothils grid around #OrovilleDam is the only one that rates a blackout - tonight? 9 PM to noon tomorrow? Psychopaths.. So stupid. Hide the electrical underground and problems solved. Cannot be done, cost prohibitive. You think your electricity is expensive now? "Pissed Off Patriot" Retired Union Millwright, Turbine Mechanic <}~ Seeker of the Black Crown ~{> }> I Am the Storm <{ ~Hnry~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70885715 United States 06/09/2019 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Weiryone lives near Oroville Dam (since he was a young boy). Weiryone's personal pics of lower spillway taken yesterday: [link to twitter.com (secure)] For reference and comparison, a few pics of lower spillway snips taken from May 2019 until early June 2019: [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/09/2019 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! |
Hnry Bwmn User ID: 75083029 United States 06/09/2019 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed The bridge over the gate works is about to fall apart..... Cheapest solution for now.... and just after all that new guard rail work "to open the dam to the public" Sure would like to see that 12' crack over gate 8..... And the 'spalling' across the horizontal joint at pier 10 (where that crack is) Last Edited by Hnry Bwmn on 06/09/2019 10:46 AM "Pissed Off Patriot" Retired Union Millwright, Turbine Mechanic <}~ Seeker of the Black Crown ~{> }> I Am the Storm <{ ~Hnry~ |
Hnry Bwmn User ID: 75083029 United States 06/09/2019 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed "The new construction puts a stop to further use of the main spillway for the season. Construction began Thursday June 6, 2019 when excavators and heavy equipment began removing a large portion of the bottom of the spillway." Wait....Wut? I thought they were going to run the spillway this week?????? These Phukkers have their heads so far up their asses they can't tell when the sun is up.... "Pissed Off Patriot" Retired Union Millwright, Turbine Mechanic <}~ Seeker of the Black Crown ~{> }> I Am the Storm <{ ~Hnry~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77690378 United States 06/09/2019 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed This tells me they were FOR SURE lying about the MS being "just fine." If they'd had to run it hard I think they know it would have blown the lower part up again, just as before. Now that the melt is over, they are going to proceed with unannounced repairs, as though it were the plan all along.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60905062 United States 06/09/2019 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed [link to twitter.com (secure)] Quoting: Amanda Lee CAL FIRE ‏ Verified account @CAL_FIRE Follow Follow @CAL_FIRE More #SandFire off County Road 41 & Highway 16, Rumsey in Yolo County is 1,700 acres. Evacuations in effect. [link to www.fire.ca.gov] … That's just to the west of me. Hope we don't get any new fires today. |
UseLessRepEATER User ID: 71193424 United States 06/09/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Great pics. Amanda. What's with all the razor wire being put up along the DAM road. was there a heavy chain link fence along that road prior to this newly constructed one? Is it to keep random people from leaving the road and wandering down to the spillway perimeter? Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 06/09/2019 12:15 PM Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |