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Normandy, 1944: when men were men; incredible footage taken from the German side

 
The Acute Misanthropist
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I downloaded that clip. The music in the background is good.

Germans could have caused much more harm to Normandy landings if they had moved their panzers earlier to good positions from the reserve.

The invasion of England in the early stages of the war could have given an advantage for Germans to control the Atlantic.

How would WW III had ended if Germany would have mass produced the air superiority fighter that they cancelled.
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The building of More U-boats and the relocation of those already stationed in the Norwegian sea, back into the Atlantic, in the early stages of the war 1940-1943 would have stopped any invasion of France, and more than likely would have made Britain surrender, as no goods would have made it to the Island.
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To give the German naval power a boost it would have been crucial to get the French navy intact. The French fleet that was based in the Mediterranean was sunk by the British navy in order not to fall in German hands. Also the Italians had considerable naval power in the Mediterranean but they were not able to use them effectively.

This armada could have given Germany an advantage and win time to dominate the naval warfare at the early stages of war.
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Perhaps. But the U-Boats were destroying the convoys all over the Atlantic. Sinking ships and millions and millions of tonnage in supplies for England. Just imagine if they had more U-boats. In one year they sank over 1000 ships. They were working with under 100 u-baost during this time, not until the had taken France were they to begin producing them a lot more. Over 1000 by the end of the war. most of them destroyed by wars end.

Admiral Karl Donitz was adamant about this. ( the last German head of state, by the way)
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The Russians did the vast majority of the fighting against the Germans in WWII. Probably 75 to 80%.

Hahahahaha That’s not to downplay the absolute sacrifice, courage, and bravery of the Western front Allied troops. But facts are facts.
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As the war advanced Germany was up against huge, overwhelming forces.

Three superpowers. Soviet Union, USA and the British Commonwealth(including Canada, Australia, India etc.)
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Not to mention the fact the Blitzkrieg across all of Europe and into Northern Africa, in two years, definitely made some of those mighty men, very tired. Plus, two brutally cold , harsh Russian winters played a pivotal role in their demise. Adolph should have really thought it over, but he knew time was not on their side and Bolshevism wasn't going to wait.
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Hitler was really his own worst enemy. He had the Allies by the balls at Dunkirk but let them go, according to Martin Bormann, because he felt a kinship with their superior genetic upbringing. Hitler actually admired Britain and did not want war with them. As the situation progressed, German patriots like Rommel came to realize that Hitler was a greater threat to Germany than the Allies. Hitler's fundamental mistake was conjuring up Germanic Paganism as an answer to the horrific conditions facing Germany following Versailles.
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The Russians did the vast majority of the fighting against the Germans in WWII. Probably 75 to 80%.

Hahahahaha That’s not to downplay the absolute sacrifice, courage, and bravery of the Western front Allied troops. But facts are facts.
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You are right, you know.

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As the war advanced Germany was up against huge, overwhelming forces.

Three superpowers. Soviet Union, USA and the British Commonwealth(including Canada, Australia, India etc.)
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Not to mention the fact the Blitzkrieg across all of Europe and into Northern Africa, in two years, definitely made some of those mighty men, very tired. Plus, two brutally cold , harsh Russian winters played a pivotal role in their demise. Adolph should have really thought it over, but he knew time was not on their side and Bolshevism wasn't going to wait.
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Hitler was really his own worst enemy. He had the Allies by the balls at Dunkirk but let them go, according to Martin Bormann, because he felt a kinship with their superior genetic upbringing. Hitler actually admired Britain and did not want war with them. As the situation progressed, German patriots like Rommel came to realize that Hitler was a greater threat to Germany than the Allies. Hitler's fundamental mistake was conjuring up Germanic Paganism as an answer to the horrific conditions facing Germany following Versailles.
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It was a fatal military blunder at Dunkirk. They came back against Germans at the beaches of Normandy in 1944. It might have been a gracious gesture by Hitler to let them slip but it was naive. You can not do that in war, if you want to win the war.
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One of my uncles was in the 11th Infantry, Company G, he never talked about it, except when he was dying he showed us a Luger he kept and told us how it came into his possession. At his funeral, there was a display of 15 medals with his casket.

I've been trying to trace his steps, but it's difficult, especially with receiving conflicting info from the other elders in the family. He either served under Patton, or they linked up with Patton sometime after D-Day. Reading his letters, I know they crossed a river, but so far I don't know if it was the Rhine, the Sauer, or somewhere else.

It's odd that the 11th isn't listed on some history pages, the lists jump from the 10th to ... (somewhere much farther down the list). So far, I assume some of the info was lost in the big fire at the NPRC archives in July 1973 at St. Louis. The National Archives estimates that about 80 percent of Army/Air Force military service records were lost in the fire.

I'm starting over again in my search, previously I was under the impression he served with the 101st Airborne, but the letters prove otherwise. Just started reading last week.
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This current version of events is a simulation. Every time I tell you the original timeline I get banned.
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One of my uncles was in the 11th Infantry, Company G, he never talked about it, except when he was dying he showed us a Luger he kept and told us how it came into his possession. At his funeral, there was a display of 15 medals with his casket.

I've been trying to trace his steps, but it's difficult, especially with receiving conflicting info from the other elders in the family. He either served under Patton, or they linked up with Patton sometime after D-Day. Reading his letters, I know they crossed a river, but so far I don't know if it was the Rhine, the Sauer, or somewhere else.

It's odd that the 11th isn't listed on some history pages, the lists jump from the 10th to ... (somewhere much farther down the list). So far, I assume some of the info was lost in the big fire at the NPRC archives in July 1973 at St. Louis. The National Archives estimates that about 80 percent of Army/Air Force military service records were lost in the fire.

I'm starting over again in my search, previously I was under the impression he served with the 101st Airborne, but the letters prove otherwise. Just started reading last week.
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Interesting that you mention that fire in St. Louis. My father's original records were also destroyed. He originally trained on an anti-aircraft gun (Bofors, I believe) out in California. After the heavy losses by the allies at Normandy, his assignment was changed to infantry with Patton's Third Army, 2nd Battalion, 134th infantry, F company. He was wounded during the Battle of Nancy: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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As the war advanced Germany was up against huge, overwhelming forces.

Three superpowers. Soviet Union, USA and the British Commonwealth(including Canada, Australia, India etc.)
 Quoting: CFF 72818801


Not to mention the fact the Blitzkrieg across all of Europe and into Northern Africa, in two years, definitely made some of those mighty men, very tired. Plus, two brutally cold , harsh Russian winters played a pivotal role in their demise. Adolph should have really thought it over, but he knew time was not on their side and Bolshevism wasn't going to wait.
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Hitler was really his own worst enemy. He had the Allies by the balls at Dunkirk but let them go, according to Martin Bormann, because he felt a kinship with their superior genetic upbringing. Hitler actually admired Britain and did not want war with them. As the situation progressed, German patriots like Rommel came to realize that Hitler was a greater threat to Germany than the Allies. Hitler's fundamental mistake was conjuring up Germanic Paganism as an answer to the horrific conditions facing Germany following Versailles.
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It was a fatal military blunder at Dunkirk. They came back against Germans at the beaches of Normandy in 1944. It might have been a gracious gesture by Hitler to let them slip but it was naive. You can not do that in war, if you want to win the war.
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Back them Men fought with honor. Letting the English go back home when they were pushed back to Dunkirk, was a show of good faith by The Germans. Hitler assumed they would surrender at this point. He then focused on the East, with hopes that the English would see the Bolshevik problem and join them in the fight against it. Yes, it was a mistake in hindsight. Now that its come to light with facts, Winston Churchill wanted war all along, fighting for his Masters decisions. So they went back at the Germans after being reinforced by the Lend -Lease act. This was a pivotal blow to the Germans, As the Yanks made goods for everyone but them. in the past many years its become clear as to why this happened, and by who.
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Islam.
To take Europe they must first destroy the people that have repeatedly driven them out in the past. They formed a plan to weaken and destroy Europe for conquest at the end of the ottoman empire and have been working that plan ever since.
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As the war advanced Germany was up against huge, overwhelming forces.

Three superpowers. Soviet Union, USA and the British Commonwealth(including Canada, Australia, India etc.)
 Quoting: CFF 72818801


Not to mention the fact the Blitzkrieg across all of Europe and into Northern Africa, in two years, definitely made some of those mighty men, very tired. Plus, two brutally cold , harsh Russian winters played a pivotal role in their demise. Adolph should have really thought it over, but he knew time was not on their side and Bolshevism wasn't going to wait.
 Quoting: The Acute Misanthropist 77732315


Hitler was really his own worst enemy. He had the Allies by the balls at Dunkirk but let them go, according to Martin Bormann, because he felt a kinship with their superior genetic upbringing. Hitler actually admired Britain and did not want war with them. As the situation progressed, German patriots like Rommel came to realize that Hitler was a greater threat to Germany than the Allies. Hitler's fundamental mistake was conjuring up Germanic Paganism as an answer to the horrific conditions facing Germany following Versailles.
 Quoting: Dr. Rendezvous

Embracing Islam and allowing the grand multi to have a daily radio broadcast from Berlin was far worse and far more pagan.
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war,ever.

I have spoken with many folk's in my age group, within 10 years both ways, and they ,too, say the same thing. Their grandparents never wanted to talk about the war.

I personally believe that its more than just the blood and guts of war, its because many of them knew what had happened to the Germans and were ashamed of it.

They knew the wrong enemy was defeated as they all came back home and saw things clearly for what they were.
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My Grandfather was the same, was in the European combat zone and all he had to say about the military was that he never wanted any of his descendants of ever fight for America again.

Up until that point, our family had fought in practically every war America had ever been in.
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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You mean when men were cannon fodder?
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stop acting like the nazi's were mr nice guys fighting the good fight for whitey

THEY were the ones that attacked their white brothers

they invaded poland and france without provocation

their planes mercilessly bombed london and their u boats sank any non-military vessel they could find

the went out of their way to commit unspeakable atrocities towards human beings that have no justification whatsoever

germany could have been a bad ass powerhouse of a nation if they simply minded their own business
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stop acting like the nazi's were mr nice guys fighting the good fight for whitey

THEY were the ones that attacked their white brothers

they invaded poland and france without provocation

their planes mercilessly bombed london and their u boats sank any non-military vessel they could find

the went out of their way to commit unspeakable atrocities towards human beings that have no justification whatsoever

germany could have been a bad ass powerhouse of a nation if they simply minded their own business
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The most ill-informed idiotic absurd statement ever made on the Internet.

Congratulations, Moran.

Unfortunately,there is no medal for it.
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Back when white people defended their countries to the death instead of letting foreigners take over without firing a shot.
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When men were men fuk off
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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yeah what could be wrong with trying to exterminate the JeVVs.....
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:

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Yeah, Hi.

You made that all up.
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Back when white people defended their countries to the death instead of letting foreigners take over without firing a shot.
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Interesting
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When men were men... I miss those days.
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One of my uncles was in the 11th Infantry, Company G, he never talked about it, except when he was dying he showed us a Luger he kept and told us how it came into his possession. At his funeral, there was a display of 15 medals with his casket.

I've been trying to trace his steps, but it's difficult, especially with receiving conflicting info from the other elders in the family. He either served under Patton, or they linked up with Patton sometime after D-Day. Reading his letters, I know they crossed a river, but so far I don't know if it was the Rhine, the Sauer, or somewhere else.

It's odd that the 11th isn't listed on some history pages, the lists jump from the 10th to ... (somewhere much farther down the list). So far, I assume some of the info was lost in the big fire at the NPRC archives in July 1973 at St. Louis. The National Archives estimates that about 80 percent of Army/Air Force military service records were lost in the fire.

I'm starting over again in my search, previously I was under the impression he served with the 101st Airborne, but the letters prove otherwise. Just started reading last week.
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This one?

In 1939, the 11th joined the 5th Division at Fort McClellan, Alabama. In April 1941 one company of the 11th each were among the first US forces to garrison the new bases at Bermuda and Trinidad, established under the Destroyers for Bases Agreement with the United Kingdom.

In 1942 the regiment deployed to Iceland and remained there for 15 months until the regiment, and the division, moved to England. The regiment landed in Normandy on 10 July 1944 and fought its way across France as part of the 5th Infantry Division, which was assigned to General Patton's famed Third Army. The 11th Infantry played a prominent role in the reduction of the fortified city of Metz in the fall of 1944. During the Battle of the Bulge, the 11th counter-attacked into the southern portion of the Bulge, engaging the Germans in bitter winter fighting. On 22 March 1945, the 1st Battalion made a night river assault across the Rhine River at Oppenheim, giving General Patton a division bridgehead over the Rhine two days ahead of Field Marshal Montgomery's famous crossing. The 11th Infantry ended the war in Czechoslovakia.

Shortly after its return from the European Theater of Operations, the regiment was retired.

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All info about WW2 have been twisted to suit certain agendas
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Germany were never the threat to the world, but tptb had to have a scapegoat, to defelect from the atrocities and power hungry blood lust of the soviets/communists/jhhews for world domination!!!

We were all sidetracked in the wrong direction with "look the nazis", instead of "look the filthy commie bastards!"
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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


 Quoting: Dr. Rendezvous


My grandfather never wanted to talk about the war,ever.

I have spoken with many folk's in my age group, within 10 years both ways, and they ,too, say the same thing. Their grandparents never wanted to talk about the war.

I personally believe that its more than just the blood and guts of war, its because many of them knew what had happened to the Germans and were ashamed of it.

They knew the wrong enemy was defeated as they all came back home and saw things clearly for what they were.
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War is all the BBC wants to talk about as presenters reflect in the glory of it all. It makes me sick!
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Normandy was bad but Italy worser

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My father served in the infantry in Patton's Third Army in France. He said the thing that bothered him the most after the war was the fact that he was sent to France to kill the best that Europe and the white race had to offer. He said when he saw the Wehrmacht in action and face to face as prisoners, he knew they were fighting a brother war at the behest of TPTB. He said everything we learn about WWII from the Establishment historians is utter bullshit. Even Patton ended up concluding that America was doing the dirty work of some evil international entity in destroying Germany's finest:


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Men were men in the US Military everytime they were called upon from Bunker Hill, to Khe San, to Fallujah, to Gettysburg, to Belleau Woods.
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The Russians did the vast majority of the fighting against the Germans in WWII. Probably 75 to 80%.

Hahahahaha That’s not to downplay the absolute sacrifice, courage, and bravery of the Western front Allied troops. But facts are facts.
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Heavily supplied by the West. Also, Americans built all the Soviet industrial capacity during interwar.

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Phase I: First, make all real men kill each other. Teach their sons to embrace weakness.
Phase II: Tempt women to despise men and abandon traditional families.
Phase III: Gradually unleash degeneracy onto the world and seduce women into killing their unborn children. <---We're here.

But why, what's the point of all this? Who the fuck hates us so much?





GLP