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SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily)

 
<<LOOK`n thru YOU>>

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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
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Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
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Yup---and with 1445 leading the way could even make it more interesting..it`s kicking out some pretty good flares. We will have to keep an eye on it too...Have a good day brutha
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
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Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
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Hey TS----How ya doing this morning? Gonna be a nice day here..Close to 80 degrees...May break out the telescope tonight and do some searching for them dern Aliens..tounge
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Well I hope you see some, personally I have a hard time look'n up into the night sky for fear of actually seeing one ... but .... that's another story. hf

Not so nice here today, but for the month of March, and awesome 61*. I'm really concerned about my fully budded fruit trees. Next week we are due for lows in the mid 20's. Fingers crossed, I'm really looking forward to my first crop of apples, and my first attempts to making an awesome peach liquor :)

Have a wonderful day Look'n
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
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Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
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Hey TS----How ya doing this morning? Gonna be a nice day here..Close to 80 degrees...May break out the telescope tonight and do some searching for them dern Aliens..tounge
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


woody? ah you mean charly..im still here only cut my hair and bought a new home but i will have a new radioshow soon

Dont forget.. charly said it first, lol^^

cheers to all of you

cheers
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Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
 Quoting: TS66


Hey TS----How ya doing this morning? Gonna be a nice day here..Close to 80 degrees...May break out the telescope tonight and do some searching for them dern Aliens..tounge
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


woody? ah you mean charly..im still here only cut my hair and bought a new home but i will have a new radioshow soon

Dont forget.. charly said it first, lol^^

cheers to all of you

cheers
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Forget the radio show, I want to hear your voice on your videos, just once ??
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Morning IWTB76...what happened to woody?? Is that you in the picture?...I see 1429 is still kicking them out on the far side. It will be interesting to see if it holds together...working half a day today then heading home..Time for some cold beers this evening and kick back
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
 Quoting: TS66


Hey TS----How ya doing this morning? Gonna be a nice day here..Close to 80 degrees...May break out the telescope tonight and do some searching for them dern Aliens..tounge
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


lol

give em a big high-5 when ya spot em
hf
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Hey there Lookin and IWTB...
going to be interesting next week if 1429 holds together...i think it will..
Peace
 Quoting: nerdrage88sasr


Good morning all hf

I agree wholeheartedly. Let's keep our fingers crossed they allow us the data to observe it.
 Quoting: TS66


Hey TS----How ya doing this morning? Gonna be a nice day here..Close to 80 degrees...May break out the telescope tonight and do some searching for them dern Aliens..tounge
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


lol

give em a big high-5 when ya spot em
hf
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I`ll offer them a beer...if they accept the offer I`ll consider them friendly..they turn it down and they are in trouble. I will sick my 5 chihuahuas on them...don`t mess with the Chi Chi`s...lmao


TS---you are funny

IWTB---sorry my wife and I always call him woody..lol..Charely was the best part of 2012 IMO...congrats on the new house!!

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Good Morning all....

IWTB, congrats on the new home
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Good Morning all....

IWTB, congrats on the new home
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Glad to see you back! hf
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Good Day happy Sun Folk!!

Standing by today for some action.

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Yup..M1 flare this morning...things may be picking up again..

AC from India..I visited with SS yesterday...He needed a break and had some other stuff going on...AA probably got banned..They had banned him a few times on the last day he posted but he kept switching hater's won't win so he kept coming back..at least that is how I understood it..No big mysteries
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Hi looknhf and morning allgrouphug,


Oh yep we had another nearly M flare this morning around 08:50UTC

:xrayTimegapmarch:

and a time gap in Goes X ray flux data as we can see
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Old region 1431 source of the latest flares gets numberes as 1445 which rotated into view over the south-east limb yesterday

This region is now a EAO type group at 90 millionths

:newregion1445mar:



:region1445aia450:
Enlarge:
[link to i1220.photobucket.com]


Also of interest was a large solar flare from the well known spot 1429 on the far side of the sun

:hugeflareregion1:
Image shows old region 1429 which produced this solar flare earlier this morning. This region produced M and X class solar flares while facing Earth a couple of weeks ago. This is due to return into view in 5 or 6 days time

StereoBehindEUVI
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


We could see also a bright cme on stereo images
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Watch also latest Lasco C3 Helioviewer:
[link to helioviewer.org]


The cme will not be Earth directed because this region is still on the Farside of the Sun
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morning everyone :)

the gap in the xray flux today may have had a M in there
and there was a Type II radio emission
issue time was 11:02 UTC
what i find interesting, is there is no Xray event at 11:02 on the Xray flux we are looking at
at 11:02 the Xray flux was at around a B4 level
the gap where a larger flare may have been, is in the 08:30 - 09:30 area
and according to stereo A no earth directed CME that i can see
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Space Weather Message Code: ALTTP2
Serial Number: 784
Issue Time: 2012 Mar 24 1102 UTC


ALERT: Type II Radio Emission
Begin Time: 2012 Mar 24 0845 UTC
Estimated Velocity: 587 km/s
Description: Type II emissions occur in association with eruptions on the sun and typically indicate a coronal mass ejection is associated with a flare event.

but i just got on here looking into this mornings events
so i will search around a bit more to see whats going on :)

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Found an interesting article in the Maui News entitled SUN'S IMPACT ON EARTH INCLUDES UNCERTAINTY-

Sunspots can break out even when the sun is presumably in a less active stage of the cycle. An X-9 class flare broke out on Dec. 5, 2006, during the solar minimum, reportedly disrupting communications satellites temporarily – but also proving to be anomalous. NASA said later the burst was a stream of hydrogen atoms that theoretically should not survive the coronal explosion, raising more questions about the physics of the sun.

While sunspot activity will continue, Hawaii solar physicist Jeff Kuhn says the current solar cycle is mostly demonstrating what astronomers don't know, even with more data than ever from an assortment of instruments on Earth and in orbiting observatories launched over the past two decades.

“This cycle, we've done the worst and our understanding of the solar cycle is sorely lacking,” he says. “This cycle is more than a factor of 2 smaller than we first thought – and long delayed, by two years, from when it should have come.”

[link to www.mauinews.com]
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I'm still w/ you all to keep an eye to the sky. I may not speak-up very often, but I am still checking in w/solar watch daily-hi
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A big C3 flare from 1444 in northwest. Flare covered a large region so we'll have to follow-up and check for a CME.

H-alpha movie (only 3 frames so slow it down):

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Still photo:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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A big C3 flare from 1444 in northwest. Flare covered a large region so we'll have to follow-up and check for a CME.

H-alpha movie (only 3 frames so slow it down):

[link to halpha.nso.edu]

Still photo:

[link to halpha.nso.edu]
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Judging by the immense physical size of this flare and the slow decline of the X-ray flux, the chance for a CME here is very good.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

SDO/AIA 304a image:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

SDO 3-wave composite:

[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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Another C flare x ray up
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More than 50 new papers are being presented this week on the planet Mercury and the discoveries of the NASA MESSENGER spacecraft. It's hard for me to keep up with all this info at this time.

"About 20 years ago, astronomers discovered that the poles of Mercury "light up" when illuminated with radar beams from giant ground-based antennas. As implausible as it seems, they concluded that the radar-bright patches might be due to water ice. I am not making this up! These "snowballs in hell" are just barely conceivable because Mercury's axial tilt is very nearly 0°, so the floors of many polar craters remain permanently shadowed from the Sun's searing light.

Messenger's cameras can't see the darkened crater interiors, but the spacecraft carries a neutron spectrometer that can tell if the deposits are water ice. The details are a little thorny, but when cosmic rays strike Mercury's surface, atoms in the rocks emit neutrons — and if a neutron collides with a light atom (like hydrogen) before escaping to space, it will lose energy. If Messenger spots enough of these "slow" neutrons coming from near Mercury's north pole, water ice is the only likely cause."

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

"A Surprising Core
MESSENGER's radio tracking has allowed the scientific team to develop the first precise model of Mercury's gravity field which, when combined with topographic data and the planet's spin state, sheds light on the planet's internal structure, the thickness of its crust, the size and state of its core, and its tectonic and thermal history.

Mercury's core occupies a large fraction of the planet, about 85% of the planetary radius, even larger than previous estimates. Because of the planet's small size, at one time many scientists thought the interior should have cooled to the point that the core would be solid.

However, subtle dynamical motions measured from Earth-based radar, combined with MESSENGER's newly measured parameters of the gravity field and the characteristics of Mercury's internal magnetic field that signify an active core dynamo, indicate that the planet's core is at least partially liquid."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

More on Mercury's magnetosphere here:

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

NASA'a Messenger Mission homepage:

[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Solarsoft close-up movie of C3 flare from 1444:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

A small, bright CME can be seen on STEREO Behind image (too far north of the ecliptic to be geo-effective):

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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More than 50 new papers are being presented this week on the planet Mercury and the discoveries of the NASA MESSENGER spacecraft. It's hard for me to keep up with all this info at this time.

"About 20 years ago, astronomers discovered that the poles of Mercury "light up" when illuminated with radar beams from giant ground-based antennas. As implausible as it seems, they concluded that the radar-bright patches might be due to water ice. I am not making this up! These "snowballs in hell" are just barely conceivable because Mercury's axial tilt is very nearly 0°, so the floors of many polar craters remain permanently shadowed from the Sun's searing light.

Messenger's cameras can't see the darkened crater interiors, but the spacecraft carries a neutron spectrometer that can tell if the deposits are water ice. The details are a little thorny, but when cosmic rays strike Mercury's surface, atoms in the rocks emit neutrons — and if a neutron collides with a light atom (like hydrogen) before escaping to space, it will lose energy. If Messenger spots enough of these "slow" neutrons coming from near Mercury's north pole, water ice is the only likely cause."

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

"A Surprising Core
MESSENGER's radio tracking has allowed the scientific team to develop the first precise model of Mercury's gravity field which, when combined with topographic data and the planet's spin state, sheds light on the planet's internal structure, the thickness of its crust, the size and state of its core, and its tectonic and thermal history.

Mercury's core occupies a large fraction of the planet, about 85% of the planetary radius, even larger than previous estimates. Because of the planet's small size, at one time many scientists thought the interior should have cooled to the point that the core would be solid.

However, subtle dynamical motions measured from Earth-based radar, combined with MESSENGER's newly measured parameters of the gravity field and the characteristics of Mercury's internal magnetic field that signify an active core dynamo, indicate that the planet's core is at least partially liquid."

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

More on Mercury's magnetosphere here:

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

NASA'a Messenger Mission homepage:

[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Thats the kind of enlightenment I look for on this forum,great info and presentation on your part!
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Double shot...

[link to lasp.colorado.edu]

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Was there a CME involved. Is it earth directed?
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Thread: What is this black spot in the Sun's corona?





Thread: What is this black spot in the Sun's corona?
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Dot...blah.

Go to the data. Load the image. Watch for 5 minutes. Frame by frame watch the dot follow every single camera tilt. Realize whoever made the video is a liar. Make a PBJ sandwhich. Go for a walk.

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Dot...blah.

Go to the data. Load the image. Watch for 5 minutes. Frame by frame watch the dot follow every single camera tilt. Realize whoever made the video is a liar. Make a PBJ sandwhich. Go for a walk.

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Thanks. Case closed.
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Electric Universe- the electric Sun theory in a nutshell:

"In the electric Sun hypothesis, the Sun is a glowing anode, or positively charged “electrode.” The cathode is an invisible “virtual cathode,” called the heliosphere. The heliosphere is at the farthest limit of the Sun’s coronal discharge, billions of kilometers from its surface, where a “double layer” isolates the Sun’s plasma cell from the galactic plasma that surrounds it. Galactic plasma is otherwise called the Interstellar Medium (ISM).

Electric forces occurring within the double charge layer above the Sun’s surface are responsible for the incredibly active plasma phenomena that we see. Since Electric Universe theory assumes that celestial bodies interact through conductive plasma and are connected by circuits, the Sun is also assumed to be electrically connected with the galaxy. The Sun can be thought of as an electrically charged object seeking equilibrium with its environment. However, it is not stable. The charges flowing into and out of the Sun can sometimes increase to the point where it releases plasma discharges called solar flares."

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

How Big Is The Sun, Really?

Taking all these factors into consideration, Emilio and his collaborators peg the diameter of the Sun at 865,374 miles (1,392,684 km), plus or minus about 0.01%. And they got the same solar size during both transits, confirming (as this same group reported two years ago) that the Sun's diameter is "rock steady."

It should be possible for researchers to improve on this new value when Venus transits the Sun in just a couple of months (76 days to be exact). This time astronomers can use the Solar Dynamics Observatory, which can take images with four times better resolution than SOHO. "SDO will be able to see the transit of Venus in June and we have several activities planned," according to project scientist Dean Pesnell. In fact, the SDO team has launched its own transit website, though it's still under development.

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

SOHO movie of 2006 transit of Mercury:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Good morning all hf

Looks like some possible action during the eclipse (again ???).

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

8:24 UTC

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]





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