THE DELIBERATE 'DUMBING' DOWN OF AMERICA (VIDEO WITHIN)

stupidest nonsense thread i have seen in a very long time..

I am father of three boys, the current educational system does not allow them promote "dumb" kids, either you make the grade on regular season or, for those who qualify they get the extra help in summer school or tutorial class, I am lucky to have kids that their grades are above average.

This video is full of shit.

When my son was in kindergarten the ones on the younger side of the spectrum needed more time to knock around,
god help you if your kid couldn't stay still. REd flag!
Bring in the Adderal! 5 fooken years old.
(never did that to him).
I asked to see the teaching plan and was floored at it's volume.
You guys may not agree with me, and that's ok.
I question this new ambition and pressures for children so young.

[link to www.realityzone.com]

Actually no, the 'dumb' people (whether they did well in the school system or not) do not realize they are dumb or ignorant (sort of like yourself). You can be successful or not in the school system and still see the BS as it is and still be much smarter critically than others who do well in the school system.

If you can't understand what's being discussed here, which it looks like you cannot, you have a lot of learning to do. Or you're just a successfully molded sheep. Reading your post the latter seems very likely. LOL you even talk about being 'successful' in this system which is what the dumb school system indoctrinates you to as their idea of "success".

The dumbed down wouldn't be blaming anyone because they wouldn't realize they were dumbed down. In fact, they'd more likely just be ignorant and not understand this topic, think they are smart and successful, attack those who criticize the faulty system. Sounds like someone you know maybe?

Your post is ignorant on many levels and shows a level of incomprehension. It's actually so blatantly, hilariously, ironically at a low level which is probably why no one else responded. But I thought I'd try to help.

If you simply read some of the posts here you would see this concern is for what is happening to the people around us. As in concern for our planet from seeing more of the bigger picture and not going off of 1-off personal examples (which you have failed to do).

Please expand your awareness and then come back.

nevermind

Last Edited by WindyMind on 05/24/2012 07:50 PM

Spoken like a libtard.

Our education in college/university is crap no thanks to those libtard professors.

Let's see...

1) Sun Scare... turned out to be a total crap.

2) Saturated fat and cholesterol consumption causing heart disease turned out to be a total crap.

3) CO2 causing catastrophic global warming turned out to be a total crap.

4) Archaeology is total crap when they don't even notice granite objects are hard to work on yet they claim they used primitive tools.

5) Have you noticed all of that sociology crap spewed by libtards?


Idiots teaching students to be idiots. Pathetic.

I you're only basing your reality on your limited personal experience then you are helpless or a shill.

I was constantly the best among my peers/age-group (even several age groups up) in many pursuits of the mind during school and I see this topic as truthful.

Hell why are you spieling on about your boy's grades and not about your own intellect and awareness. Furthermore grades does not necessarily = intellect. If the subject matter is so simple what matters what kinds of grades they get? Grades should go up as level of subject matter goes down. This is obvious if you think critically about it for a bit.

The criteria is on making sure the kids pass regardless of everything else. So they lower the average level so more kids can pass. I've seen this too many times in 'average' level classes in school that were pretty much a waste of time to me. So much compromise to be made so that the majority can pass simple topics (which allowed me to get about 150%/100 of grade for the class in a fraction of the time needed for class).

And yet his response held some degree of rational thought and yours is filled with fallacies.

Let me ask you a question since you seem to firm in your belief that the failures of the school system are the result of "libtards". If this is the case, then how is it that public education has purportedly declined over the past several decades regardless of whether Congress was under "liberal control" or "conservative". There are ample examples of these so called "libtards" teaching "conservative" ideologies to their students. My, you have a short term memory.

in order for our kids to succeed in this generation they need to learn a LOT more than kids of the last generation.
The smart need to get smarter and the dumb will only get dumber, that's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
The only education there is, is self education.
School is merely a tool, not an institution for learning.

Good luck to your kids if you think as a parent that schooling is substantial enough for them to succeed in life

And who imposed this criteria upon the school? I agree that what the schools are being forced to do is wrong but it's been mandated upon them. My son, as I mentioned previously, is 15 and will be attending college this fall because the scenario that you outlined above equated to nap time for him. It was his teachers and counselor who insisted on his attending college early so that he could actually thrive. It was Congress who put the mandates on the schools that created his scenario entirely. Who is ultimately to blame? I would say we are because we elected the guys that passed it (unless you weren't 18 at the time).

There is a huge attack going on from politicians and the media upon the school system. Sometimes it's subtle (school bus driver does blah blah blah), sometimes it's outright. The reason for this is because there are very powerful and monied interests who seek to privatize the public education system. They want you to hate and fear public education and attack those who, largely, became teachers out of a desire to do something good in the world. Privatization could very well be worse and attending private schools certainly did not protect us gifted from federal predation.

No school teaches 2+2=5 or deliberately encourages misspelling. The person who made this video and the people who fall for it are the true dummies destroying our society.

Your comment about "telling time" brought to mind a friend of mine, now in her 40's, who for YEARS couldn't read a "traditional" clock/watch, because all she had ever seen was a digital timepiece!

And I can remember my Dad, who had a PhD. in chemical engineering, grousing about the graduate students he was mentoring because they had never been taught to read a slide-rule.

Every night we sat down for dinner TOGETHER as a FAMILY (no excuses!), and actually practiced the art of CONVERSATION. Sometimes (usually about 2 nights a week) it would be "book night" and we'd all read books after the conversations were concluded. Then the following evening we would all bring to the table some interesting quote or fact which we'd learned the previous night.

And our only "bathroom book" was a Thesaurus! Even today, as my friends' children are enrolled into school, I give them a gift of a Thesaurus, and SHOW THEM how to use it.

Frickin' Fudge Packer !!!!!

Nibiru Is Coming !!!!

It Will All End Soon !!!!

Nibiru!!!

good role models are hard to find these days. single family homes, parents who are never home, parents who don't pay attention for whatever reason. some children are unmotivated because they dont know how to be. some children dont even know what sex they are...

I bet you hated the word AARDVARK.....

I agree. My 9 year old daughter isn't the greatest at math (but she's a phenomenal speller). If she gets a math problem wrong, she gets it wrong and not a gold star. Her class also has weekly spelling tests where if a child misspells a word, well, that's wrong, too. Disinformation in regards to the schools is at an all-time high.

No left right ideology should be taught. Ethics, philosophy science math English history art. Physical education should be transformed into an outdoor based curriculum-survival training.

Agreed but, with perhaps the exception of math, most of those subjects have been polluted to such a degree in the adults through a variety of media influences that to come to a consensus on what precisely would be taught in these classes is not without nonsensical debate. Like the fellow who posted earlier that associated the study of sociology as being something oft-quoted by "libtards".

This thread is ridiculous. Everyone seems to equate the ability to read, write, or speak with no errors as being SMART. ARE YOU ALL REALLY THIS RETARDED?


Being smart has nothing to do with being EDUCATED (AKA PROGRAMMED) by the education system.


It has to do with knowing how this world is fucked to the core.

***** and pin for mentioning Iserbyt on the first page

When the SHTF and if there is ever a school post holocaust, the motivation would be food...

It would be Pavlov's dog all over again...

Get the right answer, pass the test, learn the concept, get a scrap of food...

I don't understand the practice of having squares drawn on the carpet or floor, and the kids must stay within the little squares. The squares are intentionally not very large. If this isn't to train compliant worker-bees, I don't know what else it could be.

We never had this when I was in elementary school in the 60's. There, even in 1st grade we sat at desks and had enough room that we could fidget in our desk and not run into the next desk.

I have an 11 year old and 8 year old in the public school system in a north Orange County community here in southern California. There ain't no gold stars here. There ain't no getting ahead when you're wrong. My kids are held to task BIG TIME, and in direct relation, so are we as the parents. I have had to "whip" my oldest into shape because she has my DNA-related struggles with procrastination, and I refuse to let her slide like my mom and dad let ME slide. Bad habits are learned early on, and I'm the classic example. Still hounds me today.

But I am here to tell you that the based on the homework my kids have, the grade and progress reports I get, the amount of field trips and other learning opportunities they get, I am either blessed with a VERY VERY rare public school system that actually IS teaching kids, or....this IS the norm, and the video is just a scare tactic.

Perhaps this is a problem at inner city schools? Not sure....

I don't know, Apollo, that might not be such a bad idea! Not canes, of course, but I have to say that when I was in Catholic grammar school, those nuns wielded a wicked ruler! If we misbehaved in class they would smack us two or three times on the palms of our hands, not to mention the embarassment we'd experience having to stand up in front of the whole class while they did it! You know what? There were NO discipline problems, NO bullying, and NO disrespect for teachers or school rules such as is RAMPANT today! NONE of the parents objected; in fact, most (if not all) of them requested that they be informed if such discipline were necessary (and the reason why) and they we'd REALLY catch hell when we got home! The teachers and the parents were like a circle, they couldn't be played against each other like they are nowadays. The schools are so afraid any more of being sued that they condone bullying, disrespect, and downright delinquency from the students, the result being that the schools are more like a war zone than a place for learning.

Maybe we should bring all of our Troops home and re-deploy them as hall/classroom monitors! I'd bet that there would be a lot more learning going on and a lot fewer kids coming to school drunk or on drugs!

I came across something rather interesting regarding liberal idiots taking over mainstream academia and ruining it.

[link to motls.blogspot.com]

NIBIRU !!!!

Has anyone noticed that in some schools, the education system does not allow the student to take home books and all their homework is done in class???

When I went to school in the 60s/70s, I used to carry a ton of books home and had at least an hours homework in each class that i took per night...

Are you saying they had squares instead of desks? I'm sure that's not what you mean. Early elementary classrooms generally have longer desks that seat two or more side-by-side, and that does become single seating by 3rd grade, yeah?
I would be alarmed if those were anything more than a spatial guideline for where to sit in a group which is not a big deal necessarily since 5+ yr olds do sit on the floor for presentations most often..

Referring to the sentence in bold above.

They do not know that they do not know.

The Dunning Kruger effect.

Def:
"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.[1]

Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Basically the more stupid you are the more you over rate your abilities and vice versa.