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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/21/2012 01:21 PM
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BiBi must really have an ace up his sleeve...otherwise this is political suicide !
 Quoting: subzero86


great hamas victory!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19301838


Not quite. BiBi knows this will not last. And once Hamas breaks the ceasefire, Israel will gain much more support and then it's wrath time. This is chess not checkers son.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Let's hope Hamas is stupid enough to take the bait !
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11/21/2012 01:21 PM
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WOW whats that on REUTERS??


[link to reuters.livestation.com]
 Quoting: Ger_reG


A tank.
 Quoting: Howard 27974251


It is a mobile artylery unit.
 Quoting: recollector


looks like it
Pea
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11/21/2012 01:21 PM
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Well folks, i guess we can all go to bed early tonight, bcause the war has ended... goodnight..
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This is the fastest thread I've ever tried to keep up with. ...and most interesting! Thnx for that!

An article on Obama and Muslim Brotherhood involvement in Gaza. Thought I posted it already but couldn't find it.

[link to www.israpundit.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23201180


"Nazism was a model for the Muslim Brotherhood’s political organization and Nazi Germany provided funds for the nascent Brotherhood movement. And millions of the favorite targets of the Third Reich just happen to be living next door to Egypt."

:hitler:
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Well folks, i guess we can all go to bed early tonight, bcause the war has ended... goodnight..
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LOL i wouldn't be that sure my friend
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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Rana @RanaGaza

Drones are flying at very low altitudes. #Gaza
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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Looks like a Merakava tank, correct me if I'm wrong.

Well cease fire is bollocks. You dont transport all the equipment and troops to make cease fire. Allot of logistic money being wasted.

Second half of operation pillar of cloud is to start soon.

trust me.
 Quoting: Tigershield


It was a M109 Self-propelled Howitzer and the crew embarked to leave their position and possibly head back to barracks. The the RTRS cam went off.
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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I fucking saw a tank on Reuters for a second, then Cam went off. Looks like they're ready to invade ASAP if ceasefire is broken
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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WOW whats that on REUTERS??


[link to reuters.livestation.com]
 Quoting: Ger_reG


A tank.
 Quoting: Howard 27974251


It is a mobile artylery unit.
 Quoting: recollector


Uh, we call them tanks.
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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BOOM on RT
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RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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Oil trading pits not buying into this bullshit, oil moving back up before the close...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

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Well folks, i guess we can all go to bed early tonight, bcause the war has ended... goodnight..
 Quoting: Pea 28204148


This is the ultimate DOOM time, don't pass out yet! Hezzy just fired a rocket from Lebanon and the ceasefire is in about 35 minutes. If a rocket is launched in 40 minutes, it's DOOM on!
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11/21/2012 01:22 PM
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MASSIVE MASSIVE HAMAS VICTORY, INCREDIBLE. THEY HAD 70000 MEN ON THE BORDER, BUT THEY WERE AFRAID TO ENTER GAZA PLUS THEY DON'T HAVE HOSNI MUBARAK ANYMORE. I AM SO HAPPY, I COULD CRY NOW. GREAT VICTORY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19301838


People in Never La La Land must be this stupid...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


One of the many fellow Dutch people that mad my country The Netherlands a big mass with a bit to much sympathy for the wrong people.

Must be a PVDA / SP / Groen Links left-winger with brains still up in the wrong place or one of the many "Medelanders" with an Arabic / Muslim / North African background.

I do not want stereotype the shit out of people, but these people are basically the reason I am thinking about going back into the Army / Navy or leave my country.

They also are the reason for the mass-banning Trinity is forced to use to keep GLP "nice". Also the reason why my SIP gets banned all the f^&*ng time.

I am really ashamed of these fellow Dutch people. But on the other hand they probably think the same about me anyways...

;-)
 Quoting: jahbulon49


wat loop je dom te lullen joh gek, zelfs frans timmermans (pvda) is zwaar anti palestina. hou die lulpraat lekker voor je.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19301838


To bad you don't have the balls to say that in English so everybody can read it. Your way of communicating tells me enough about you, and it pretty much suits what I pointed out in an earlier post. Being pro or anti Palestinian has nothing to do with being a left-winger. A so called socialist. And these same socialists are responsible for the fact that my country The Netherlands is no longer the country that I grew up in! It changed into a f^%$ing nightmare in which most people do not even see all the sleeping problems that are bigger that the most feared ticking time-bombs.

Forgot about how film maker Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered by a Muslim extremist? Forgot about the hofstad group? I can go much further... When I grew up my home town had 50.000 people living in and around town. About 120 of them were Muslims back in that time. Most of them from Turkey. There were lots of people from he Molukan Republic and lots of people from Suriname as well. We all got along pretty good. Nowadays more than 20 years later in the same town we have about 70.000 people living here and guess what, almost 3500 of them are Muslims and that should not be a problem normally, but most of these 3500 come with lots of side effects and problems attached to them. More criminality, their own ways of doing things and well that will get them into trouble with all the other people who are used to their ways of doing stuff and fixing things. These 3500 well let's say that 300 of them really try to do their best to integrate into the western society, but the other 3200 don't! They import new family that they marry to and well they do have sex like rabits because they all seem to be having more wives and all the wives really do have 4 ot 5 or more kids. But on the other hand, no work so they live of social wellfare ad I could go on for hours. But let me guess, you don't mind cause you make easy money as well? You on social wellfare or you just have a good job working for the government or some government related organisation? I mean maybe you are in fact an "ambtenaar" or semi-ambtenaar" like we call them in Dutch...
Jahbulonian Pride!
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11/21/2012 01:23 PM
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BOOM on RT
 Quoting: Ger_reG


RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19706474


[link to rt.com]

yes the are
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BOOM on RT
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RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19706474


Yeah, RT is down here.
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
Israel agreed to Gaza truce, won't lift blockade:
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I fucking saw a tank on Reuters for a second, then Cam went off. Looks like they're ready to invade ASAP if ceasefire is broken
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28219326


Just the tanks as they were before it's unlikely he's gonna move them just yet
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WOW whats that on REUTERS??


[link to reuters.livestation.com]
 Quoting: Ger_reG


troops leaving lol
 Quoting: strikeforce


It is. They're all going home now.
 Quoting: ISO


i don't see them moving and going home 40 minutes BEFORE ceasefire wouldn't be clever
 Quoting: Ger_reG

oh yes, it is. I guess they were told to just move away a few or dozen kilometres, that should suffice....
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
When Hamas is firing rocket to Israel, no one is shouting
ceasefire ! ceasfire ! No press coneferencess, no Egypt
involved, no Ban Ki Moon involved, nada, nothing.
Then Israelis start to defense itself and they
attack militants. Then everybody are involved, to to last
homeless man on this planet...
I'm not for war at all, but it is all one big vicious cirlce...
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BOOM on RT
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RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19706474


Yeah, RT is down here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


[link to rt.com]
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11/21/2012 01:24 PM
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Explosion in Israel-Lebanon border

rotter

siren2
 Quoting: boku82


They just lost against Hamas now every real enemy with real capability like Hezbullah may be emboldened.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Israel can't "lose" against Hamas. They have the ability to destroy Hamas, and every nation around them with the weapons they have. But that would draw utter world condemnation against them. And that may yet prove to be the case.
This isn't over yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


they lost my friend, they lost in 2006 as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19301838


They fight a long war that has lasted many decades. One or two battles that Israel pulled back from because of international pressure aren't considered "defeats". Israel exacted a heavy price from its enemy in 2006.
This war will not end until one side is destroyed utterly.
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11/21/2012 01:24 PM
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BOOM on RT
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RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19706474


[link to rt.com]

yes the are
 Quoting: Ger_reG

Ta but thats a different feed than the one I was watching on rt.com
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How the hell do you figure Hamas won? Half there leadership got killed, most of their rockets did nothing, they will not get free access to more weapons. For Israel it was like killing a pesky fly with a flyswatter.

Israel still heavyweight champs, you people are dreaming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27406138

^^^^^ THIS^^^^^ Israel cleaned up a lot of bag guys and they know who and where the players are.
 Quoting: Corn Dog


They won because if we are seeing at least one litlle bastard saying "GO GO GO HAMAS", its a victory, because for them the most important thing its to get the world against Israel, and unfortunately that was achieved...

But lets wait this guy named Ceasar F. do his job... hiding
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Rocket land in Ashdod.
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Tri, is wrong... no more dooms day... CEASE FIRE CALLED...I haven't been studying SAT for a whole week because i thought humanity would fall down...and little green men would come and rule us. Thanks for that Tri. NOW I'm behind a week than everybody. WHAT DO I DO!!!!!!
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Well folks, i guess we can all go to bed early tonight, bcause the war has ended... goodnight..
 Quoting: Pea 28204148


This is the ultimate DOOM time, don't pass out yet! Hezzy just fired a rocket from Lebanon and the ceasefire is in about 35 minutes. If a rocket is launched in 40 minutes, it's DOOM on!
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


well i think they will give it an hour or two but i agree with you!
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BOOM on RT
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RT isnt showing gazza on its feed wheres your link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19706474


Yeah, RT is down here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24275689


[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: Ger_reG


TY, but it keeps loading, no feed..
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Explosion in Israel-Lebanon border

rotter

siren2
 Quoting: boku82


They just lost against Hamas now every real enemy with real capability like Hezbullah may be emboldened.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Israel can't "lose" against Hamas. They have the ability to destroy Hamas, and every nation around them with the weapons they have. But that would draw utter world condemnation against them. And that may yet prove to be the case.
This isn't over yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


they lost my friend, they lost in 2006 as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19301838


They achieved some tactical victories such as killing some Hamas leaders but the strategic objective was to stop the rockets and one week later people are still in shelters and rockets launching so total mission fail/
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Re: "Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire
One thing is for sure:

As for now, the operation and its outcome have made BiBi's popularity even worse than it was before. Almost every Israeli is against this dubious ceasefire. If he really quits now, everyone is going to remember and hold that against him all the way through the elections, which are soon to come. Assuming he knows that fact, there are 2 options:

1. He just made political suicide.
2. The ceasefire is only a halt for the next big step.





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