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Éireann User ID: 28380975 United States 11/24/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was a post from this summer and I can't find it now. Many of us argued that there was more than one Seer, but they all had me convinced it was 777. Obviously, they were quite wrong and I couldn't be happier about it :D Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann User ID: 28380975 United States 11/24/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ohhh...I know who you are talking about. Yes. He did die in a car crash. He also utilized the '777'. He was a member before my time here, so I can not remember the first part of his member name. Also, I am female. Ahhh! Then definitely not you. I can't remember his nick either for some damn reason. Boom! Gone right out of my head. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
tarfonwxx User ID: 28221753 United States 11/24/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone think it's a little suspicious morsi makes a power grab the day after he met with clinton? Quoting: tarfonwxx For me nothing could be more suspicious than what BiBi did or should I say didn't do, after he met with Clinton ! I still can't believe he didn't go into Gaza ! Two days ago a colleague called me a "pussy" and said he really didn't expect the Jews to be afraid of a few barbarians with Ak-47s. I must admit, BiBi has disappointed a lot of people around the world with his decision and Israel's image had a lot to suffer ! I heard from someone who knows Obama told BiBi ABSOLUTELY NO ground forces. He left him no choice wouldn't bibi have known that before he called up the troops? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19617766 Romania 11/24/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !? Quoting: subzero86 I am somewhat relieved that we are spared of a ground war. This is the fastest a middle east conflict has ever been "resolved"; something's fishy. Something is very fishy indeed ! But I must say I am not relieved at all my friend and neither should you cos if nothing major happens in the next few weeks or months...Hamas is going to regroup and resupply from Iran and the cycle starts all over again ! The people of Israel will be back to living with the constant fear that a rocket might fall on their heads ! BiBi had a chance to end Hamas once and for all and he passed that up, I pray that he had good reasons and he wasn't blackmailed with something ! |
AWFEKKIT User ID: 28345375 Egypt 11/24/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I repeat, game changer. [link to www1.youm7.com] It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge. (I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.) Last Edited by AWFEKKIT on 11/24/2012 01:06 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/24/2012 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Game changer! Quoting: AWFEKKIT I repeat, game changer. [link to www1.youm7.com] It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge. (I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.) Google browser automatically translates it for you. |
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AWFEKKIT User ID: 28345375 Egypt 11/24/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Associated Press‏@AP Quoting: Luisport BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded. does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ? Yeah, actually, it really doesn't. There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it. |
my 2 cents User ID: 26646007 Canada 11/24/2012 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !? Quoting: subzero86 Hi Subzero! I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF. This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me. Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords. -Benjamin Franklin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28381916 United Kingdom 11/24/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Associated Press‏@AP Quoting: Luisport BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded. does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ? Yeah, actually, it really doesn't. There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it. hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28381916 United Kingdom 11/24/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !? Quoting: subzero86 Hi Subzero! I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF. This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me. and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result |
AWFEKKIT User ID: 28345375 Egypt 11/24/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Associated Press‏@AP Quoting: Luisport BREAKING: Egypt democracy advocate ElBaradei: No dialogue with president until new powers are rescinded. does that mean Egypt essentially has no government ? Yeah, actually, it really doesn't. There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it. hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ? It does, all things considered. I'm sure the media is full of non-stop coverage of Tahrir so it looks like the place is in complete chaos all of the time, but it's not. Part of it is because the people who actually do the work of the government on a day-to-day basis (the clerks who stamp the papers, the teachers who teach the classes) are still there, doing what they do. The people at the top are what have changed. Is it perfect? No, because it hasn't settled down yet and, more than anything, the power plays and looming "sharia" aren't going over well in general and people are just plain tired of it. Other than that, people get up in the morning, go to work, earn their living, and so on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1273864 United States 11/24/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized. 2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles. 3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation. 4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification. 5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets. 6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow. So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria. I think Israel played this game very well. |
my 2 cents User ID: 26646007 Canada 11/24/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !? Quoting: subzero86 Hi Subzero! I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF. This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me. and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result Ya, a result that makes some, if still very little sense in the overall scheme of things. Truth be known I'm still just grabbing at straws to tie this all together. Patriotism is supporting your country always -- and your government when they deserve it. Mark Twain Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords. -Benjamin Franklin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28381916 United Kingdom 11/24/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, actually, it really doesn't. There's an elected president and an elected Shura council, a Cabinet, and governors and, hmmmmm, that's pretty much it. hmmis it actually effective because we only hear of the bad things on here does the system actually work well in this period in time ? It does, all things considered. I'm sure the media is full of non-stop coverage of Tahrir so it looks like the place is in complete chaos all of the time, but it's not. Part of it is because the people who actually do the work of the government on a day-to-day basis (the clerks who stamp the papers, the teachers who teach the classes) are still there, doing what they do. The people at the top are what have changed. Is it perfect? No, because it hasn't settled down yet and, more than anything, the power plays and looming "sharia" aren't going over well in general and people are just plain tired of it. Other than that, people get up in the morning, go to work, earn their living, and so on. well I have to say good on you all from what the news and 90% of the posts even one I put up the other day are one sided and depict a view of absolute chaos..... respect goes out to your country for doing so, I hope it does work out for the good at the end of it all..... thank you clearing that up for me take it easy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28386766 Argentina 11/24/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864 2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles. 3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation. 4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification. 5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets. 6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow. So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria. I think Israel played this game very well. 1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864 2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles. 3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation. 4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification. 5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets. 6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow. So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria. I think Israel played this game very well. they're still a long way from taking down assad and those paid terrorist are dropping like flies, so, no i dont think its done, not without a fight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1273864 United States 11/24/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864 2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles. 3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation. 4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification. 5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets. 6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow. So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria. I think Israel played this game very well. they're still a long way from taking down assad and those paid terrorist are dropping like flies, so, no i dont think its done, not without a fight Very true, but this is just the beginning. A preperation phase. Israel is mobilising it's force for a reason. Phase two will probabley begin after US/NATO deployment to the region. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28381916 United Kingdom 11/24/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tarfon, on a scale of 1 to 10, how disappointed are you of the outcome of the "Pillar of Defense" operation !? Quoting: subzero86 Hi Subzero! I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole ceasefire because it just doesn't make any sense; at least not on the surface. You don't mobilize 70,000 troops and assemble a vast array of tanks, APCs, artillery, aircraft etc., just to let it sit there and wither on the vine. And this after successfully softening up the enemy with air and naval bombardment for 8 straight days. My only guess as to why the brakes were slammed on the invasion is that there is something much, much larger going on behind the scenes that we, the little people aren't privy to. It's the only thing that makes any sense. So what could this 'something' be? My guess is the US told Israel to back off or else 1) they will not get a green light to take care of Iran with US backing and 2) the US will withhold it's veto on the Palestinian statehood bid. Further incentives could include keeping Egypt on a leash by inserting US troops in the Sinai (which is rumoured to be happening soon) and taking care of the northern front (Hezbollah et al) when SHTF. This is all conjecture of course, but unless someone can come up with a better scenario it's the only one that makes any sense to me. and if you add the cost of doing all of that to do nothing in the end the ceasefire literally went from not a chance in hell to a result Ya, a result that makes some, if still very little sense in the overall scheme of things. Truth be known I'm still just grabbing at straws to tie this all together. its a head ache to start with....... the only thing I can think of to explain is fingers in pies someone does a favour for a favour for a favour in order to gain something from that...... what is another matter but I do believe the next event that kicks off may be the final nail in coffin if Bibi doesn't protect his people they may rise against him. Or could it be to do with election fixing who has the greatest influence who picks who is next in a countries office it really can't be the peoples choice Look at all the fuck ups we call governments in the world today, it wouldn't be the first time a government has been installed to suit a countries interest. |
doomsucker User ID: 28017267 United States 11/24/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1- The Gaza-Hamas front has been pretty much neutralized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864 2- Egypt/US/NATO will police the Sinai border and hunt down the arms supply routes and stockpiles. 3- Mursi, installed by the West, will pretty much take Egypt out of the equation. 4- NATO intevention in Syria is a done deal. Just preparing the public and the justification. 5- Hezbollah is fighting the rebels in Syria. A NATO defense of the rebels would mean attacking the Hezbollah fighters. This would make Hezbollah camps, arms dumps and command structures in Lebanon legitimate NATO targets. 6- Sudan has been publicly outed as a supplier of arms and supporter of Hamas. Concequences will follow. So in about two months Iran will have lost Hamas/Gaza, Hezbollah/Lebanon and Assad/Syria. I think Israel played this game very well. Indeed they have! |
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tarfonwxx User ID: 28221753 United States 11/24/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Game changer! Quoting: AWFEKKIT I repeat, game changer. [link to www1.youm7.com] It appears the judges were going to 'undo' the presidency and put the military back in charge. (I know it's off topic, but I don't know where else to post it and I know folks on this thread are interested. Also, sorry it's in Arabic.) Keep us posted |