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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 4901221 Australia 11/17/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By eliminating meat from your diet you can save money: the government subsidizes meat to the point that, according to John Robbins (Diet for a New America), a pound of hamburger would cost $89 if not subsidized. (And that book was written over a decade ago…) Soon only the very wealthy will be able to eat meat. So get used to it! Heated meat is one of the biggies in causes of disease, including Alzheimer’s and cancer. Learn how to forage for greens. You can live on greens. Our closest genetic relatives (chimps) eat at least 60% of their diet in greens. Greens contain a lot of protein, and are the most alkaline food (which is the no.1 thing for health.). Just be careful though. Christopher McCandless (the guy who the movie Into the Wild was based on) did not read the distinctions between two similar-looking plants carefully and that is what killed him. Also ask the farmers to save their (nonsprayed) weeds for you. Offer them $20 for a box. Weeds have more minerals than most of the greens you buy at the store! Minerals are more important than vitamins. They tell your body when enough is enough, because your body actually craves minerals, not calories. As you are getting better and better nutrition, gradually reduce your caloric intake. Studies on rodents and primates prove that this extends our lives by 30-40%. We can get by on about half the calories if the food is nutritious---the way to do it is by making the food raw and organic. You don’t have to be 100% raw, you don’t have to be a hardcore raw foodist. If you do, that’s totally fine and that’s great. If you want to be 50% raw or 80% raw, whatever is going to work for you will make a difference. But just remember this, wherever you are today, you can only get better by incorporating more raw fruits and vegetables into your diet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11894721 United States 11/17/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever. I have canine teeth that are meant for tearing meat. I am 0+ which, according to eating by blood type means I can eat more meat than any other blood type. If I had to live on vegetables, I would have to eat all day. My body processes meat very well. If I eat a vegetable lunch, I'm hungry in an hour. If I eat meat, I can last until my next meal. I will never stop eating meat. |
- User ID: 27824029 United States 11/17/2012 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever. I have canine teeth that are meant for tearing meat. I am 0+ which, according to eating by blood type means I can eat more meat than any other blood type. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11894721 If I had to live on vegetables, I would have to eat all day. My body processes meat very well. If I eat a vegetable lunch, I'm hungry in an hour. If I eat meat, I can last until my next meal. I will never stop eating meat. Many herbivore animals have fangs - apes, elephants fruit bat, and so on. Fangs do not = carnivore. Blood type is irrelevant. No humans processes meats well. The animal fats flood the liver and entire CV system. It can take some getting used to but vegetables can be completely satisfying. Potato, Vegan Spaghetti, Veggie Stir Fry, Chili, and many other dishes are just as good without meats. Then try a piece of dark chocolate and it kills the appetite. Getting away from McDs and Burger king is a very possitive move. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 4901221 Australia 11/18/2012 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever. I have canine teeth that are meant for tearing meat. I am 0+ which, according to eating by blood type means I can eat more meat than any other blood type. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11894721 If I had to live on vegetables, I would have to eat all day. My body processes meat very well. If I eat a vegetable lunch, I'm hungry in an hour. If I eat meat, I can last until my next meal. I will never stop eating meat. i am not a muslim but i do ramadan, which is where you dont eat anything all day long for a month. after i progressed to a meat free diet i noticed that ramadan became a hell of a lot easier! i can very easily go all day without eating and have a small meal before i go to bed! i would say you need to pay more atention to your own body before you start telling everyone what your body can and cant do. |
Amy_A User ID: 16982804 United States 11/18/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have been taught to eat meat, most likely due to very cold climates where vegetation does not grow. I have noticed more people are moving to the vegetarian and vegan lifestyle these last few years. I cut out meat due to health reasons. Here is an old guy who doesn't eat meat and up this this video, he claims to never experience sickness. I know this guy is a huge leap, but his lifestyle paid off. Dr. Sebi also says Meat is not healthy for our body although we can eat it. He has cured all diseases with plants and herbs. Peace Last Edited by Amy_A on 11/18/2012 12:31 AM Amy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25799108 United States 11/18/2012 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meat eaters are stronger and smarter. OP do you wish for our children to become weak dumbtards? Quoting: Politicas I believe that is exactly what the TPTB want us and our children to be. After much research, I have finally found a great diet at near 50 years of age. I am blood type O+ and I eat mainly lean red meat, fish and chicken. I avoid dairy and whole wheat items. I receive bi-monthly Testosterone shots and work out hard 3x a week. I feel the best I have in years. * GLP men, stay away from Soy. It can raise Estrogen levels. Start paying attention to the ingredients in your food, it is everywhere. Makes you wonder. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4547295 United States 11/18/2012 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP if your premise were to be true how did humans survive if they did not live in the lower lats of planet earth. When winter comes Eskimos, Native Indians, Native Siberians basically all peoples of earth that experience winter in all of human history had to eat meat in order to survive since in winter there is no growing season and that means no grass no fruit no acorns no nuts nothing for a human to eat but protein from meat to make it through a winter. No meat no living in higher latitudes since nothing to eat. That is human history. Maybe humans started in the garden and those humans were herbivores but as soon as humans left the garden survival was implemented with meat. One more thing. When I eat grass fed beef marinated and barbecued I experience a heavenly taste in my mouth like no other culinary savory food. So my mind is telling me this is unbelievably delicious almost like an instinct. So .. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11894721 United States 11/18/2012 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever. I have canine teeth that are meant for tearing meat. I am 0+ which, according to eating by blood type means I can eat more meat than any other blood type. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11894721 If I had to live on vegetables, I would have to eat all day. My body processes meat very well. If I eat a vegetable lunch, I'm hungry in an hour. If I eat meat, I can last until my next meal. I will never stop eating meat. Many herbivore animals have fangs - apes, elephants fruit bat, and so on. Fangs do not = carnivore. Blood type is irrelevant. No humans processes meats well. The animal fats flood the liver and entire CV system. It can take some getting used to but vegetables can be completely satisfying. Potato, Vegan Spaghetti, Veggie Stir Fry, Chili, and many other dishes are just as good without meats. Then try a piece of dark chocolate and it kills the appetite. Getting away from McDs and Burger king is a very possitive move. I have never stepped foot in a burger king and I hate mcdonald's. Steak is my meat of choice with some horse radish on the side. Quitting meat is not an option. Especially if TSHTF, hunting and fishing will be my primary survival plans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25679088 Australia 11/18/2012 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP if your premise were to be true how did humans survive if they did not live in the lower lats of planet earth. When winter comes Eskimos, Native Indians, Native Siberians basically all peoples of earth that experience winter in all of human history had to eat meat in order to survive since in winter there is no growing season and that means no grass no fruit no acorns no nuts nothing for a human to eat but protein from meat to make it through a winter. No meat no living in higher latitudes since nothing to eat. That is human history. Maybe humans started in the garden and those humans were herbivores but as soon as humans left the garden survival was implemented with meat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4547295 you never heard of potatoes, grain, or other storable food??? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 4901221 Australia 11/18/2012 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | peta freaks and libtards... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8407446 If you don't want to eat meat then don't... The rest of us will make up our own minds, just as you are doing for yourself. This thread is not about the treatment of animals. The one thing i have learnt when it comes to this topic is that if people can be converted to being a vegetarian after they read something or from something that is said to them than they most likely would have gone vegetarian anyway. So i never start these type of thread to try and convince anyone to change. I started this thread for the same reason GLP was started, to spread the truth! You can still eat your meat knowing that it is bad for you, lots of people do lots of things that are bad for them for the sole reason that they like it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27989904 Germany 11/18/2012 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meat eaters are stronger and smarter. OP do you wish for our children to become weak dumbtards? Quoting: Politicas I believe that is exactly what the TPTB want us and our children to be. After much research, I have finally found a great diet at near 50 years of age. I am blood type O+ and I eat mainly lean red meat, fish and chicken. I avoid dairy and whole wheat items. I receive bi-monthly Testosterone shots and work out hard 3x a week. I feel the best I have in years. * GLP men, stay away from Soy. It can raise Estrogen levels. Start paying attention to the ingredients in your food, it is everywhere. Makes you wonder. Most estrogen comes from meat and dairy. This is a fact. Also, meat and dairy industry and fish farms are responsible for the multi resistent mrsa bacteria. Why Vegetarians Are More Intelligent than Meat Eaters Vegetarianism would therefore be an evolutionarily novel value and lifestyle, as well as a luxury of abundance. The Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely to choose to become a vegetarian than less intelligent individuals This indeed appears to be the case. Among the British respondents in the National Child Development Study, those who are vegetarian at age 42 have significantly higher childhood general intelligence than those who are not vegetarian at age 42. (Childhood general intelligence was measured with 11 different cognitive tests at three ages before 16.) Vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 109.1 whereas meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 100.9. The difference is large and highly statistically significant. The relationship holds both among women and men separately. Among women, vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 108.0 while meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 100.7. Among men, vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 111.0 and meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 101.1, a 10-point difference! [link to www.psychologytoday.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25799108 United States 11/18/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meat eaters are stronger and smarter. OP do you wish for our children to become weak dumbtards? Quoting: Politicas I believe that is exactly what the TPTB want us and our children to be. After much research, I have finally found a great diet at near 50 years of age. I am blood type O+ and I eat mainly lean red meat, fish and chicken. I avoid dairy and whole wheat items. I receive bi-monthly Testosterone shots and work out hard 3x a week. I feel the best I have in years. * GLP men, stay away from Soy. It can raise Estrogen levels. Start paying attention to the ingredients in your food, it is everywhere. Makes you wonder. Most estrogen comes from meat and dairy. This is a fact. Also, meat and dairy industry and fish farms are responsible for the multi resistent mrsa bacteria. Why Vegetarians Are More Intelligent than Meat Eaters Vegetarianism would therefore be an evolutionarily novel value and lifestyle, as well as a luxury of abundance. The Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely to choose to become a vegetarian than less intelligent individuals This indeed appears to be the case. Among the British respondents in the National Child Development Study, those who are vegetarian at age 42 have significantly higher childhood general intelligence than those who are not vegetarian at age 42. (Childhood general intelligence was measured with 11 different cognitive tests at three ages before 16.) Vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 109.1 whereas meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 100.9. The difference is large and highly statistically significant. The relationship holds both among women and men separately. Among women, vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 108.0 while meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 100.7. Among men, vegetarians have the mean childhood IQ of 111.0 and meat eaters have the mean childhood IQ of 101.1, a 10-point difference! [link to www.psychologytoday.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8410224 United States 11/18/2012 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the worlds oldest recorded man was Habib Mian who died in 2008, he was 138 years old and he claimed he was vegetarian for 120 years of his life! exsplain that one! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221 Enjoy your diet. Who gives a flying fuck what other people eat? They system is much bigger than you and you're opinion on the matter will only encourage people to double down on what they already do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8410224 United States 11/18/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever. I have canine teeth that are meant for tearing meat. I am 0+ which, according to eating by blood type means I can eat more meat than any other blood type. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11894721 If I had to live on vegetables, I would have to eat all day. My body processes meat very well. If I eat a vegetable lunch, I'm hungry in an hour. If I eat meat, I can last until my next meal. I will never stop eating meat. i am not a muslim but i do ramadan, which is where you dont eat anything all day long for a month. after i progressed to a meat free diet i noticed that ramadan became a hell of a lot easier! i can very easily go all day without eating and have a small meal before i go to bed! i would say you need to pay more atention to your own body before you start telling everyone what your body can and cant do. Ram a dong. Gross! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26125917 United States 11/18/2012 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides, no matter how much they process it, season it to resemble the real thing...TVP is no match for real meat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28046501 Germany 11/18/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a vegan. I thought it might help.me with my type 1 diabetes. I ended up worse. there might be a small.percentage of people who can eat this way without problems. im not one of those. Im now eating a low almost zero carb diet and i never felt better my whole life. my disease is und almost full control now. what is really annoying is how vegans want to push others to their unhealthy lifestyle with totally uninformed made up.stuff. When I was vegan i often found stuff that made no sense but you kind of brush that aside. just check out OMEGA 3 to omega 6 ratio. vegans are almost all the time in inflammation due to to high omega 6 food. vegan omega 3 sourcea are very badly absorbed by humans. animals convert the omega 3 sources to human available omega 3. VEGAN IS UNHEALTHY CAUSE OF THE NOT AVAILABLE OMEGA 3 ONLY OMEGA 3 from animal sources is easy available for humans. eating a carbohydrate diet grows fungi and cancer. tough animal diet is almost equally unhealthy if the animals dont eat healthy simple grass but also the stuff vegans eat like grains etc. grassfeed chicken and eggs as grassfeed beef. plancton feed fish. THATS THE GOOD STUFF. and yeah its sad to kill an animal but thats how nature works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15534724 Canada 11/19/2012 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a great variety of vegetables that that average person doesn't consider eating and so they end up eating too many products made from wheat which isn't good and that includes too much meat Have vegetables such as cooked pumpkin, carrots, squash and even eggplant. Making dishes with green peppers, onions and you know rice is great. Now when you try a large variety you should be getting all the nutrients your body basically needs when you also include salads and fruits. Add spices and herbs to bring out wonderful flavors. If you want meat mostly you are missing out out the natural way of living. Include fish and eggs is great though as well to help get more protein in your diet. You should feel very healthy. What I am saying cook in a different way and perhaps avoid restaurants more and your life will change for the better to think clearer and feel more healthy |
•••Weltschmerz••• User ID: 28058083 Germany 11/19/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to know what we are supposed to eat by nature, just watch the diet of animals that are close to us. Orang Utans don't eat meat. Now, a carnivore would argue that we are weak and would have a disadvantage if we don't eat meat. Ok... Tell that to the silver back alpha orang utan... He's a herbivore... All the strongest animals are herbivores... Elephants, Hippos, Bears .... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 11/20/2012 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to know what we are supposed to eat by nature, just watch the diet of animals that are close to us. Orang Utans don't eat meat. Quoting: •••Weltschmerz••• Now, a carnivore would argue that we are weak and would have a disadvantage if we don't eat meat. Ok... Tell that to the silver back alpha orang utan... He's a herbivore... All the strongest animals are herbivores... Elephants, Hippos, Bears .... Bears are herbivores??? Whats it called when they are fishing salmon/trout out of the rivers? Or when the polar bears eat seals? Lions not among your list of strongest animals? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28616258 United States 11/28/2012 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | actually op, it's a compelling argument, food for thought. One more for you, vitamin b12 absorption is difficult for celiacs. your theory on vegetarianism presents special challenges for those who cannot eat certain grains. I shall think on it though, and perhaps experiment. I will let you know. |