There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ nor ‘Palestinian people’

He only reads comic books and believes Custer won the war.

u suck OP

Before Israel became a nation, the land was part of the Ottoman Empire. After the Ottoman Empire fell, the British had a mandate on the land.

Some Jews and Arabs lived in the land under the British. And Jews were constantly buying land since at least the mid-1800s.

In 1917, the Jews asked the British for governing power over the land and it was granted.


The Ottoman Empire became Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Jordan, etc.

The Jews only got 1/5 of 1% of the land in Israel. But the Arabs were granted the other 99.8% of the land.


Why isn't 99.8% of the land enough?


Why must the Arabs also have that other .2% as well??

WRONG

what if the surrounding arab states all got their hearts desire.?

what if the jews disappeared overnight.?

what if the " innocent peace loving palestinians" were given everything they wanted.?

peace huh?

oh, i forgot, there's always Lebanon,,,

it doesn't matter what name or label is put to a group of people, individual or colour difference, the fact is, we're all children of the same creator: GOD. and all have the same and equal right.

Son of Israeli General Exposes Israel's Lies:

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Thank you, me too.

The bodies piling up are not imaginary and they can call themselves anything they like, being born there makes it their country no matter who keeps moving the borders around. Israel could still exist today with a government run by the majority and that would been Arabs once the displaced people return to their own land that they were chased from (under threat of death) back in Nov. of 1947.

Thank you for sharing this.
Very interesting info and view of things.

You are not taking into consideration that the Brits agreed to give the land to the Jews before WWI so that pretty much means the war was created just so they could gain possession of the land so they could give it to the Jews as the Rothschild bankers demanded.

WWI Date, 28 July 1914 – 11 November 1918

The Balfour Declaration was a November 2, 1917 letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Lord Rothschild that made public the British support of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The Balfour Declaration led the League of Nations to entrust the United Kingdom with the Palestine Mandate in 1922.

What was the date of the Rothschild demand, how about before the start of the war. You do see the word Palestine in there right??

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Yes, there is NO such thing as "palestinians", no former currency, no such entity ever existed, etc.

But, this does NOT mean that the Arabs or whatever ethnicity they are that call themselves "palestinians" should be treated as they are treated.

As far as modern day "Israel" is concerned, it is a concoction of the Balfour Declaration. True Yisrael is people, and we are currently scattered ALL over the earth. True Yisrael is comprised of physical descendants and Gar Toshav/Righteous Sojourners from ALL nations, tribes, and languages that CHOOSE to FEAR YHVH, BELIEVE in His Mashiyach, and WALK in the Written TORAH(Righteous and Right Ruling with Love, Mercy, and Truth towards ALL peoples they encounter).

The Torah explicitly says NOT to oppress those that live amongst us.

Exo 22:21 “Do not tread down a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Mitsrayim.
Exo 22:22 “Do not afflict any widow or fatherless child.
Exo 22:23 “If you do afflict them at all – if they cry out to Me at all, I shall certainly hear their cry,
Exo 22:24 and My wrath shall burn and I shall slay you with the sword, your wives shall be widows and your children fatherless.

Exo 23:6 “Do not turn aside the right-ruling of your poor in his strife.
Exo 23:7 “Keep yourself far from a false matter, and do not kill the innocent and the righteous, for I do not declare the wrong right.
Exo 23:8 “And do not take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the seeing one and twists the words of the righteous.
Exo 23:9 “And do not oppress a sojourner, as you yourselves know the heart of a sojourner, because you were sojourners in the land of Mitsrayim.

Lev 19:32 ‘Rise up before the grey-headed. And you shall favour the face of an old man, and shall fear your Elohim. I am YHVH.
Lev 19:33 ‘And when a stranger sojourns with you in your land, do not oppress him.
Lev 19:34 ‘Let the stranger who dwells among you be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself. For you were strangers in the land of Mitsrayim. I am YHVH your Elohim.
Lev 19:35 ‘Do no unrighteousness in right-ruling, in measurement of length, in weight, or in measuring liquids.
Lev 19:36 ‘Have right scales, right weights, a right ephah, and a right hin. I am YHVH your Elohim, who brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim.
Lev 19:37 ‘And you shall guard all My laws and all My right-rulings, and do them. I am YHVH.’ ”

Lev 23:22 ‘And when you reap the harvest of your land do not completely reap the corners of your field when you reap, and do not gather any gleaning from your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the stranger. I am YHVH your Elohim.’ ”

Deu 10:17 “For YHVH your Elohim is Elohim of mighty ones and Master of masters, the great El, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe.
Deu 10:18 “He executes right-ruling for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the stranger, giving him food and a garment.
Deu 10:19 “And you shall love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Mitsrayim.
Deu 10:20 “Fear YHVH your Elohim. Serve Him, and cling to Him, and swear by His Name.

When Mashiyach Ben David returns and puts ALL nations in subjection with a rod of iron, and ALL things are made right, even the sojourner/stranger will receive and inheritance amongst the Tribes of Yisrael. This is a future event that is NOT far off.

Eze 47:21 “And you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Yisrael.
Eze 47:22 “And it shall be that you divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who sojourn in your midst and who bear children among you. And they shall be to you as native-born among the children of Yisrael – with you they have an inheritance in the midst of the tribes of Yisrael1. Footnote: 1Isa. 14:1, Isa. 56:6-8, Rom. 11:17-26, Eph. 2:19, Eph. 3:6, Rev. 21:12.
Eze 47:23 “And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger sojourns, there you give him his inheritance,” declares the Master YHVH.

Many other examples in the ancient text, but I think this is enough to make my point.

Shalom,
Eliyah Ben Yisrael

now that's what i call an effective response.

it has everything.

thought provoking, informative, a truly convincing argument.

Palestine has existed as a nation state since the Roman empire. The people called Palestinians are the natives to the region and the descendants of the true Hebrew people who practiced the religion of Moses and later converted to Islam.

The word 'jew' did not exist prior to the `1700's and these 'jews' who have invaded the region have absolutely no business claiming Palestine as their homeland. They are not native to the region and have no true religious identity, with beliefs ranging from atheism (which is by far the most prevalent) to outright satanic worship.

Let us assume that their religious motivations are true and real, did I not read somewhere there in the 'bible' that the Israelite's were not to return from the diaspora until the messiah returns? Who is the messiah and why are these people using their religion as an excuse for stealing these lands from the native peoples when they are not even supposed to be there according to it?

With jews you simply have no way to defend their actions besides censoring opposition.

K let me put a fork in this it's done.

Palestine DOES NOT exist and the fact they are still pushing for it to become a state proves my point.Now on to the real issue and this being nothing more than a blood feud.

This topic goes back to the time of Abraham,his sons and what was promised to whom.I'm not going to get into everybody because there are just too many so I will split this into 2 groups the Israelis and the Arabs. Abraham had many sons and to simplify this the sons of Jacob and Issac were the youngest and they along with their descendents were called the sons of Israel and Esau and Ishmael were the elder sons from a different mother and considered as Arabs.

From this we know the Israeli line and Arab line all stem from Abraham so they are of the same blood.The problem arose when Abraham inherited to his youngest sons the land that is now Israel and quite a bit more that Israel still does not possess to this day.Here in lies the blood feud,the elder brothers believe they should have inherited the land which in actuality is how it is normally done.

For whatever reason,be it religious or whatever both groups are entitled to live on the land yet both seem to think its theirs and only theirs.

Abraham this is all your fault.

"There was no Israel before 1947".

The name Israel goes back to the time of Abraham I have yet to find any reference to Palestine.One can argue that it's Philistine but that was conquered land.

the messiah came to the jews already and they killed him

*cough*

Technically the Romans killed him the Jews just didn't stop them.

Palestinian are the original inhabitant of the land and long before Moses they are descendant of the Phoenicians who lived in that region. They are the real native population of the land before the exodus

LOl this thread is ridiculous.

Op you're a dumbas as Palastine has existed for more than 2000 years.

but who neesd histry when you have propaganda.

FLAG: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948.

Following its occupation by British troops in 1917–1918, Palestine was governed by the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

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IBN Khaldum lived in the 1300's and frequently referred to the area as "Palestine"


If you believe that shit you're peddling, I suggest a 3rd grade world geography class for you sweety.

Probably cause you haven't looked.

Try picking up a book from known scholars from the Middle East from 0-2000


Infact Oh gee...


Herodotus of Greece mentioned it all through his journals as well in the 5th century...

Wow fail again..


Keep swinging you Pinocchio looking knuckle heads.... You might finally get one..

This is interesting:

STONE AGE SKELETONS FOUND AT PALESTINE.

LONDON, Nov. ll, 1945

It is now revealed that Stone Age skeletons of men unlike any other prehistoric race were found between 1929 and 1934 at the western foot of Mount Carmel during excavations at Waeielmughara (the Valley of Caves), says "The Times" correspondent at Jerusalem. A joint expedition of the British School of Archaeology at Jerusalem and the American school of Prehistoric He search ( discovered eight skeletons, of which four were almost complete. They are the remains of Palestine Stone Age inhabitants who tilled the soil thousands of years before Elijah reached the summit of Mount Carmel.

klick for actual newspaper article and more:
[link to trove.nla.gov.au]

Kismet

STONE AGE SKELETONS FOUND TS PALESTINE.

LONDON, Nov. ll 1945

It i now revealed that Stone Age skeletons of men unlike any other prehistoric race were found between 1929 and 1934 at the western foot of Mount Carmel during excavations at Waeielmughara (the Valley of Caves), says "The Times" correspondent at Jerusalem. A joint expedition of the British School of Archaeology at Jerusalem and the American school of Prehistoric He search ( discovered eight skeletons, of which four were almost complete. They are the remains of Palestine Stone Age inhabitants who tilled the soil thousands of years before Elijah reached the summit of Mount Carmel.


[link to trove.nla.gov.au]

check this points:

1-Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth,they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967.If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel.

2-In the 2nd century c.e., the last attempt of the Jews to achieve independence from the Roman Empire ended with the well-known event of Masada, that is historically documented and universally recognized as the fact that determined the Jewish Diaspora in a definitive way. The Land where these things happened was until then the province known as Judæa , and there is no mention of any place called "Palestine" before that time. The Roman emperor Hadrian was utterly upset with the Jewish Nation and wanted to erase the name of Israel and Judah from the face of the Earth.He decided to replace the denomination of that Roman province and resorted to ancient history in order to find a name that might appear appropriate, and found that an extinct people that was unknown in Roman times, called "Philistines", was once dwelling in that area and were enemies of the Israelites. Therefore, according to Latin spelling, he invented the new name: "Palæstina", a name that would be also hateful for the Jews as it reminded them their old foes......................

continue reading..........
and get your own conclusions

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