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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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Your last sentence is spot-on.

The previous paragraphs are steaming bullshit.
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A cogent response as to why you consider it bullshit might help.
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To all of those out there saying this is a bad idea, it's not worth dying for or let the political process work. The political process is broken. For almost a century a plan has been in place to make sure it broke down. Our schools have been hijacked as well as our media to make people forget what made our country great and why our constitution is so important and what it's true purpose is, limiting the power of government. And voter fraud is so rampant elections hardly matter anymore.

As far as dying goes, how many people have gave their lives to defend the constitution? It would be a disgrace to let all those lives have been lost in vain. It's a shame that so many people have become pussified. There are still real men out there though. Maybe they're not wearing suits everyday and drinking Starbucks after getting their eye brows waxed, but they are out there. The same kind of men who said "Fuck this shit!" after Pearl Harbor and joined the army. The same men who said "Fuck this shit!" and took up arms against the largest military in the world during the revolutionary war.

Yes many lives were lost, but those people believed in something, they had principles and they were worth dying for! We will not stand by and watch these select few assholes take away our 2nd amendment rights. We KNOW where that ends. It ends with a very select few having control of a populace of slaves. Like I said earlier they have a plan, it's been in place a long time now and the biggest goal of that plan is to disarm the American people. That is why it is so important to stop this RIGHT now! If we give them an inch today tomorrow they take a mile. Stand up now, because this isn't just about gun control, it's about finally taking lady liberty off life support.
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^^^THIS ad infinitum
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as i said on a different thread, the world is watching and waiting and hoping because the disarmamament of the US is the only obstacle left to world tyranny.
if you capitulate now, we will all live as slaves forever.
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bumpbattleflagmilitiabattleflagmilitia
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"Hey look! it's the flag of a losing army!"
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Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
 Quoting: Marxist


Actually the rich owned slaves, all over the world, of many colors including white. So it wasn't just a southern thing. Ever hear of sold my soul to the company store?

Some of the slaves were paid, but the company owned the homes and the stores so even though the "employees" thought they were making money it was going back to the company that paid them.

Let's not make this a North/South thing, or a rich/poor thing, or a race thing. Stop being so petty, grow up and read history, know facts. Stop blaming and finding differences...

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For all the marxist mongoloids who still believe that Nazi (as in National-SOCIALIST) Germany didn't have gun control and those who naively believe that american gun "laws" won't affect the rest of the world...

[link to oi49.tinypic.com]

If americans lose their guns it's gonna be game over for the whole world...
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bumpbattleflagmilitiabattleflagmilitia
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"Hey look! it's the flag of a losing army!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33576096


Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
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Yes they did, some resented it but it was apart of the society of time. Additionally many northern individuals kept slaves during the civil war. In fact records do show southern freed slaves fought along side white soldiers in the confederate army, some as fill ins for their masters, others as free men, and were not segregated into separate all black units as the morally superior yankee army did. So for your retarded response you must know and understand this, it has always been complex and shades of grey when defining the positions of individual men and causes, the hearts define their actions and like any society before and after have a certain population who enjoy control of other men.

Now fast forward fuck head, we are all slaves, emancipation never truly occurred, we just all traded places for servitude via centralized big government and central banking .

So next time kiwi really try to no be a slow fucktard who is debasing an argument to a middle school level.
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And to call the Christian cross flag of St. Anthony the flag of a losing army is about a fucktardish as a kiwi can get.

History lesson the south dominated a large part of most engagements of the civil war, with far less forces, far less equipment and logistics. The tenacity and spirt of their commanders and soldiers fighting against what was deemed to alot of men as an invasion of central government into their lives kept their fight going for 5 long years at which only the last 6 months really turned the tide against the south.

But what then again is the point arguing with a kiwi who has almost no heritage to even be proud of beyond ANZAC forces and their demoralizing loss on the cliffs of Gallipoli.
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bumpbattleflagmilitiabattleflagmilitia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55721


"Hey look! it's the flag of a losing army!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33576096


Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
 Quoting: Marxist


Yes they did, some resented it but it was apart of the society of time. Additionally many northern individuals kept slaves during the civil war. In fact records do show southern freed slaves fought along side white soldiers in the confederate army, some as fill ins for their masters, others as free men, and were not segregated into separate all black units as the morally superior yankee army did. So for your retarded response you must know and understand this, it has always been complex and shades of grey when defining the positions of individual men and causes, the hearts define their actions and like any society before and after have a certain population who enjoy control of other men.

Now fast forward fuck head, we are all slaves, emancipation never truly occurred, we just all traded places for servitude via centralized big government and central banking .

So next time kiwi really try to no be a slow fucktard who is debasing an argument to a middle school level.
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bumpbattleflagmilitiabattleflagmilitia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55721


"Hey look! it's the flag of a losing army!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33576096


Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
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Yes they did, some resented it but it was apart of the society of time. Additionally many northern individuals kept slaves during the civil war. In fact records do show southern freed slaves fought along side white soldiers in the confederate army, some as fill ins for their masters, others as free men, and were not segregated into separate all black units as the morally superior yankee army did. So for your retarded response you must know and understand this, it has always been complex and shades of grey when defining the positions of individual men and causes, the hearts define their actions and like any society before and after have a certain population who enjoy control of other men.

Now fast forward fuck head, we are all slaves, emancipation never truly occurred, we just all traded places for servitude via centralized big government and central banking .

So next time kiwi really try to no be a slow fucktard who is debasing an argument to a middle school level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


I wish I could give you good Karma for this AC. Seeing as I can't I'll say it here. Eloquent and factual response, and said much better than what I wrote earlier..

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MOLON LABE as i field strip my rifles on a fine Sunday evening.

Inventory taken, supplies accquired, resolve ever strengthened and I am only one of many.
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To all of those out there saying this is a bad idea, it's not worth dying for or let the political process work. The political process is broken. For almost a century a plan has been in place to make sure it broke down. Our schools have been hijacked as well as our media to make people forget what made our country great and why our constitution is so important and what it's true purpose is, limiting the power of government. And voter fraud is so rampant elections hardly matter anymore.

As far as dying goes, how many people have gave their lives to defend the constitution? It would be a disgrace to let all those lives have been lost in vain. It's a shame that so many people have become pussified. There are still real men out there though. Maybe they're not wearing suits everyday and drinking Starbucks after getting their eye brows waxed, but they are out there. The same kind of men who said "Fuck this shit!" after Pearl Harbor and joined the army. The same men who said "Fuck this shit!" and took up arms against the largest military in the world during the revolutionary war.

Yes many lives were lost, but those people believed in something, they had principles and they were worth dying for! We will not stand by and watch these select few assholes take away our 2nd amendment rights. We KNOW where that ends. It ends with a very select few having control of a populace of slaves. Like I said earlier they have a plan, it's been in place a long time now and the biggest goal of that plan is to disarm the American people. That is why it is so important to stop this RIGHT now! If we give them an inch today tomorrow they take a mile. Stand up now, because this isn't just about gun control, it's about finally taking lady liberty off life support.
 Quoting: Munsoned


^^^THIS ad infinitum
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Thanks, at least someone on your side of the pond gets it.
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"Hey look! it's the flag of a losing army!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33576096


Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
 Quoting: Marxist


Yes they did, some resented it but it was apart of the society of time. Additionally many northern individuals kept slaves during the civil war. In fact records do show southern freed slaves fought along side white soldiers in the confederate army, some as fill ins for their masters, others as free men, and were not segregated into separate all black units as the morally superior yankee army did. So for your retarded response you must know and understand this, it has always been complex and shades of grey when defining the positions of individual men and causes, the hearts define their actions and like any society before and after have a certain population who enjoy control of other men.

Now fast forward fuck head, we are all slaves, emancipation never truly occurred, we just all traded places for servitude via centralized big government and central banking .

So next time kiwi really try to no be a slow fucktard who is debasing an argument to a middle school level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


I wish I could give you good Karma for this AC. Seeing as I can't I'll say it here. Eloquent and factual response, and said much better than what I wrote earlier..
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy



You have given good karma. Eloquent not so much, dont think our forefathers used fucktard in general conversation, but the same aussie and kiwi shills need their collective jaws broken when even arguing with people who literally are drawing their line the sand and making a sound decisions to resist at all costs for better or worse.
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To Jeepster,

Apology accepted, I too apologize cause I'm geared up too.
But we the people must be see the truth for what it is.

TPTB, knows perfectly well that they can not legally do away with our constitution, unless there is rebellion/revolution, then they can declare martial law nation-wide and trash the constitution forever.

And no, I am not a satanist, but I am aware of their ways
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The Oath Keepers have the power and credibility to be a unifying factor. And never forget that there are better options than a horrible civil war. Succesful revolutions are often the least bloody ones. Win the heart and minds of the military and police first. I BEG you.
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That is assuming most of them have a mind of their own or a heart.
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The principal mission of Oath Keepers has always been hearts and minds. However, the information war has just about run its course. Not by the choosing of Oath Keepers but by actions taken by State and Federal Governments.

Over the last 2 decades, the US Government has created, staffed and supplied Internal Security Forces who intend to confront those who won't take a knee. This realization is not lost on Oath Keepers and this is why the central mission is beginning to evolve into unification and defense. Still, the mission is defensive in nature as it is namely a form of civil disobedience combined with common protection.

But make no mistake about it; if gun owners are attacked, they will be forced to form defensive groups and will very quickly go offensive. Because at that point, there will be little to gain by waiting to become a victim.

As things stand right now, that's the direction in which we are heading in my opinion. I could be wrong but don't think so.

The Government is not so stupid that they don't realize what's going to result from their actions. They know its going to turn this country inside out. That, in itself, is proof positive they don't give a damn about innocent people being killed with guns. For, How can they claim banning assault weapons is worthy to wittle down the less than 1% who are murdered with them when compared to the untold numbers who will die in a Civil War / Revolution?

The Government knows exactly what its doing & Oath Keepers is the Natural Result of those actions. No one wants to see war in this country but its time for all Americans to take stock of the situation for what it is, not what they want it to be. We, as Americans, must chose sides now. Will we side with the Crown or will we side with our Heritage of God Given Natural Rights. Great men are not born but are rather Baptised into action by entering into the fear of Conscience at the time of Great Crisis. This, is the time in which we live and this is the life we have. The choice is ours. The battle lines are forming & the fog of war is lifting.

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It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.



Americans who pay attention have already seen what kind of effects you Brits protesting have on your oligarchs.


You are ignored and laughed at. Same as us.


You are already enslaved, overtaxed, with foreigners forced on you, beating you in your streets, raping your women, robbing and beating you in your houses, incarcerating you when you defend yourself in your own house or out.


It is too late for you. It is not too late for us.


I'm going to be pissed if America has to come back and save your ass three times.
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Didn't they use to keep slaves as well. Whats with the liberty cry. Seems like awful lot of people were, if anything, far from liberty!

Fryingpan into the fire anyone?
 Quoting: Marxist


Yes they did, some resented it but it was apart of the society of time. Additionally many northern individuals kept slaves during the civil war. In fact records do show southern freed slaves fought along side white soldiers in the confederate army, some as fill ins for their masters, others as free men, and were not segregated into separate all black units as the morally superior yankee army did. So for your retarded response you must know and understand this, it has always been complex and shades of grey when defining the positions of individual men and causes, the hearts define their actions and like any society before and after have a certain population who enjoy control of other men.

Now fast forward fuck head, we are all slaves, emancipation never truly occurred, we just all traded places for servitude via centralized big government and central banking .

So next time kiwi really try to no be a slow fucktard who is debasing an argument to a middle school level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


I wish I could give you good Karma for this AC. Seeing as I can't I'll say it here. Eloquent and factual response, and said much better than what I wrote earlier..
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy



You have given good karma. Eloquent not so much, dont think our forefathers used fucktard in general conversation, but the same aussie and kiwi shills need their collective jaws broken when even arguing with people who literally are drawing their line the sand and making a sound decisions to resist at all costs for better or worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Ha! Well up to the last two paragraphs.

It's kind of hard to know though... if they were dealing with people that lived on far off islands that just had media fed information telling them what they were to do or believe they just might have. ;)
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The Oath Keepers have the power and credibility to be a unifying factor. And never forget that there are better options than a horrible civil war. Succesful revolutions are often the least bloody ones. Win the heart and minds of the military and police first. I BEG you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26491065


That is assuming most of them have a mind of their own or a heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273864


The principal mission of Oath Keepers has always been hearts and minds. However, the information war has just about run its course. Not by the choosing of Oath Keepers but by actions taken by State and Federal Governments.

Over the last 2 decades, the US Government has created, staffed and supplied Internal Security Forces who intend to confront those who won't take a knee. This realization is not lost on Oath Keepers and this is why the central mission is beginning to evolve into unification and defense. Still, the mission is defensive in nature as it is namely a form of civil disobedience combined with common protection.

But make no mistake about it; if gun owners are attacked, they will be forced to form defensive groups and will very quickly go offensive. Because at that point, there will be little to gain by waiting to become a victim.

As things stand right now, that's the direction in which we are heading in my opinion. I could be wrong but don't think so.

The Government is not so stupid that they don't realize what's going to result from their actions. They know its going to turn this country inside out. That, in itself, is proof positive they don't give a damn about innocent people being killed with guns. For, How can they claim banning assault weapons is worthy to wittle down the less than 1% who are murdered with them when compared to the untold numbers who will die in a Civil War / Revolution?

The Government knows exactly what its doing & Oath Keepers is the Natural Result of those actions. No one wants to see war in this country but its time for all Americans to take stock of the situation for what it is, not what they want it to be. We, as Americans, must chose sides now. Will we side with the Crown or will we side with our Heritage of God Given Natural Rights. Great men are not born but are rather Baptised into action by entering into the fear of Conscience at the time of Great Crisis. This, is the time in which we live and this is the life we have. The choice is ours. The battle lines are forming & the fog of war is lifting.
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


You're just pisbsflagsed because you pussies gave up your guns without a fight and now can't even own a pocket knife.How about you mind your own shitty countries business.
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There it is the eloquence I was expecting. Not sure we gave up our guns we never had a gun culture like America. We can still own shotguns and some 22 rifles but hand guns where ban 100% after a Dunblane massacre. I did say I should of stayed out of this tread but I didnt. I can only post from a position of some one from a country where gun violence is practically zero and that is due to the heavy restrictions on fire arms.

I asked another poster in another tread if he was willing to give up any ground may be magazine size, caliber or some types of weapons. He made it clear he wasn't. Would any of you give up one thing to save another or would that be out of the question.
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I Don't get this type of thinking? Is my .22 any less deadly going through you than my .40 Maybe a little bit but both will kill. Have you ever switched out a magazine? It doesn't take much time. But the reason he made it clear he wouldn't give up anything is we dont have to, it's our right! Shall not be infringed! How many times do you need to here this before it sinks in our founding documents the ones that made this the best in the world guarantee that politicians are not to mess with my ability to arm myself.
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The Government is not so stupid that they don't realize what's going to result from their actions. They know its going to turn this country inside out. That, in itself, is proof positive they don't give a damn about innocent people being killed with guns. For, How can they claim banning assault weapons is worthy to wittle down the less than 1% who are murdered with them when compared to the untold numbers who will die in a Civil War / Revolution?



Time to call them what they are. Communists and leftists and collectivists. I knew these people in college and during the Vietnam war. They are so enslaved and in love with their ideology they will support internment camps, re-education camps, and death squads.

They are the real Borg. And they hate the very thought of the Constitution restricting them.
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It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.



Americans who pay attention have already seen what kind of effects you Brits protesting have on your oligarchs.


You are ignored and laughed at. Same as us.


You are already enslaved, overtaxed, with foreigners forced on you, beating you in your streets, raping your women, robbing and beating you in your houses, incarcerating you when you defend yourself in your own house or out.


It is too late for you. It is not too late for us.


I'm going to be pissed if America has to come back and save your ass three times.
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Very good post.
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They know damn well these laws won't do a thing to stop violence.

If they want peace then they better back down, because they also know damn well blood will be spilled. Someone who refuses to comply will shoot or be shot and once that first one happens all hell could break loose. And so much for their "If it saves just one life it's worth doing." B.S.

Is this what they really want? Do they really want to be cowering in their basements, afraid to leave cause a stray bullet might hit them? What would this do to the economy when bullets start flying? Are people gonna go to work when there are stand offs happening all over the place? When people are sitting on the front porch with an AR and a side arm?

Back down idiots you know it won't end well, or is that what they really want.
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The Government is not so stupid that they don't realize what's going to result from their actions. They know its going to turn this country inside out. That, in itself, is proof positive they don't give a damn about innocent people being killed with guns. For, How can they claim banning assault weapons is worthy to wittle down the less than 1% who are murdered with them when compared to the untold numbers who will die in a Civil War / Revolution?



Time to call them what they are. Communists and leftists and collectivists. I knew these people in college and during the Vietnam war. They are so enslaved and in love with their ideology they will support internment camps, re-education camps, and death squads.

They are the real Borg. And they hate the very thought of the Constitution restricting them.
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I agree, if they could the collectivists would murder in the millions to force people into their nightmare construct.

History is proof.

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For all the marxist mongoloids who still believe that Nazi (as in National-SOCIALIST) Germany didn't have gun control and those who naively believe that american gun "laws" won't affect the rest of the world...

[link to oi49.tinypic.com]

If americans lose their guns it's gonna be game over for the whole world...
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Finally a german who gets it. I am of german, swedish, and norwegian decent, but I haven't been impressed with any of the germans I have met in real life.
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Like most YouTube videos that have an important messages to get out to the people it is ruined with some type of techno music playing in the background. So bloody annoying and it seems to be a trend
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Agreed. I quit watching it half way through because I couldn't hear what he was saying over the stupid background music.
Totally ruined the video.
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Oath Keepers Founder Stewart Rhodes gave a fiery speech to approximately 3,000 New York gun owners, urging them to refuse to comply to the “SAFE Act,” to refuse to disarm, to nullify at every level.

He also urged them to make sure their county was a “Molon Labe” county, asking them “is your county a ‘come and take it’ county, or is it a‘bend over and take it’ county? Which is it?! Find out now!”

He told them to make sure all the gun owners and veterans in their county are ready to stand up, and will commit to refuse to comply, and then go to the sheriff and the police chief of their town and put them on notice that they are expected to choose sides.

He told the crowd to use April 19, 2013, the upcoming anniversary of the battle of Lexington and Concord, in 1775, as the deadline for their sheriff, police chiefs [and all other oath sworn public servants] to choose sides – “are they patriots, or are they redcoats?”

[link to www.ammoland.com]


The phrase "Molon Labe" means "Come and take". It is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae.


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To Jeepster,

Apology accepted, I too apologize cause I'm geared up too.
But we the people must be see the truth for what it is.

TPTB, knows perfectly well that they can not legally do away with our constitution, unless there is rebellion/revolution, then they can declare martial law nation-wide and trash the constitution forever.

And no, I am not a satanist, but I am aware of their ways
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hf
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Malone LaVeigh....
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^^^
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Kick out the banksters, restore the constitution and ban the media monopoly. How hard can it be? Pray and Law of Attraction will lead you to victory.
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I'm not american I have no vested interest whether or not guns are restricted or outlawed. In fact I probably stay out of this thread as I'm sure some of will tell me in your very eloquent way, but fuck it.

Bollocks, this is the same crap posted online since Waco. Same bluster right wing militant doom mongering. Have you ever thought that if you put as much effort making a rational cogent argument on the topic you may get more support from the middle ground. Have any of you actually made, signed or written a petition and sent it to the people that make the laws. Have any you you thought about using peaceful means to get the message across as oppose to threats of violence. This is the very reason some areas of America would like to see assault weapons band.

A lot of you seem to be ready to trample all over the other amendments and democratic process to protect 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of them and bring war and death to your streets. You seem to think you and your family would be immune to the violence you seem so hell bent on bring upon yourself. Civil war or unrest is no joke look at North Africa and the Middle East hundreds of thousands dead and hurt.

It seems very hard to find unbiased poll results on the topic of gun control, but you have to try and keep faith in democracy and the process that are there to protect the constitution. You the very people reading this thread need to start, not just sign petitions if you wish to protect your beliefs. There's enough people all ready in this thread to get the ball rolling.

But then again I'm just a shill Limey what do I know.
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Your last sentence is spot-on.

The previous paragraphs are steaming bullshit.
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A cogent response as to why you consider it bullshit might help.
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For you? There aren't enough words in the world to explain the obvious to you.

1) Pro-gunners have not made a cogent argument for our cause. Horseshit, you just haven't seen it because it's not on the BBC or CNN.

2) Whining just like after Waco. No. Waco was a first wake up call. This is post-Waco. We know what to expect. Government massacres of citizens aren't a surprise now.

3) Have we thought about peaceful means? Geezuz, again the ignorance is stunning.

4) Unbiased poll results are everywhere, you just don't see them quoted in the MSM. And btw, human rights aren't susceptible to polls, only their likely violation.

5) Civil war is preferable to eternal slavery.

But he was definitely correct about the limey shill evaluation.
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Of course I have heard the arguments for pro-guns. I come on here, or haven't you deduced that.

However, how is one to take someone calling for liberty who then proceeds to post a flag associated with slavery, serious (as I often encounter in these threads). I have no idea what these gun supporters idea of liberty is but I would venture that wage slavery (bourgeoise society) is preferable to the slavery of landowners (feudalism...they used to call them peasants or serfs in olde England and is precisly why your commoner ancestors fled that country (if they are of Anglo-Saxon descent) for the US and tried to set up a constitutional and bourgeoisie republic based on merit...whoops...that calls for the use of ones cerebral matter.)

Secondly, how is one to take the same dope who calls for minimal regulation of business serious? For one, there is a serious disconnect between reality and that persons convoluted reality in their angry response, often xenopohbic, to the affects past deregulation has had on them. For example, these simpletons blame the loss of American jobs (to China, another fictional flip flop) following Reagan inspired deregulation, on liberals (paternal capitalists) and communists! Some people never learn.

Thirdly, in a society where everyone is blind (fully armed), it takes very little intelligence to deduce that leading will be at best, arguable.

But, hey, I am sure you have an arsenal of insults to volley at me so fire away!
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