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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32302144 United States 02/24/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I didn't think gesturing is a cultural thing, but I will give you that. BUT she's from Canada, right? And I'm guessing their gestures are very similar to the one's seen here in America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32302144 Really? So what does it means: [link to news.xinhuanet.com] Yes, I did admit -- I didn't think about gestures being different in different cultures. But, I thought she was from Canada -- assumed she was raised there. I just think her gesturing is abnormal. And it's also very slow, indicating impairment. When she is punching buttons the second time, she is doing so with both hands, as if she is in a hurry or panicked, but she isn't moving very quickly or with a sharpness you'd find in someone who feels threatened. It's as if her actual movements indicate fear, but her demeanor doesn't agree. That is what makes me think she is impaired in some way. Also, no one seems concerned that she is grasping her hair when she walks back in -- this shows frustration and impatience. |
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phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/24/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. so we´re back at the elevator thing ? you must be kidding. besides that i do thing gestures in korea are somewhat different, as long as there are no examples how they are different and what they actually mean: irrelevant. Thread: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ### |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33232369 Canada 02/24/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. for your convenience, mr now-anonymus, page 18 as said before: Who owns the Cecil Hotel? Quoting: Ontheverge Entity Name: CECIL HOTEL MANAGEMENT, INC. Entity Number: C3114311 Date Filed: 10/28/2009 Status: DISSOLVED Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA Entity Address: 640 S MAIN ST Entity City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90014 Agent for Service of Process: WILLIAM HAROLD LANTING William Harold Lanting is associated with several companies, including Cecil Hotel Management, Inc., Epsilon Omicron of Sigma Nu Holding Corporation and Hotelco, Inc.. and is located in Los Angeles, CA. [link to www.corporationwiki.com] |
arkadiy User ID: 35076264 Russia 02/24/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. My point is if she making Korean gestures near elevator, she have spoken to Korean person. Fact that she stay not in Cecil is better material so far. It explains why she was not found by police. After plumber have found a body, hotel starts to search surveillance cams and found only one video with her, which was showen. So she met with some korean person, maybe in Varnish, came to Cecil with them, leave her bag and cell phone in Cecil room, and then elevator scene starts. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/24/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. hold button up above the floor buttons in most elevators...sorry im thinking of the emergency stop i think Last Edited by DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 on 02/24/2013 03:08 PM |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/24/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. [link to i.imgur.com] here is the panel, she pressed the middle buttons, and indeed there is a DOOR HOLD button the bottom middle. Thats why the door stayed open. arkadiy is correct if she pushed hold and stayed open..why would it then close? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed i such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to the phrase Sa Mallei which means its Mallei which means Mallei Bacterium which produces TB or Ganders. These are just a couple of ideas. |
Aristide Torchia User ID: 29901291 Switzerland 02/24/2013 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. Pinned again Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/24/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. Ok- here goes. And yes, I've read the entire thread. Quoting: IndigoMoon The address for the Cecil Hotel is 640 S Main St, Los Angeles, CA 90014 [link to www.thececilhotel.com] The address for the Invisible Light Agency is 620 S Main St #203, Los Angeles, CA 90014 [link to losangeles.citysearch.com] Anthony Vu worked for the Invisible Light Agency and is now employed by Raytheon. [link to www.cgchannel.com] [link to www.linkedin.com] More on Anthony Vu [link to www.behance.net] Important to note: Invisible Light Agency is NOT listed on his LinkedIn profile. More on Raytheon Raytheon Company, 870 Winter Street, Waltham, MA 02451 [link to www.raytheon.com] Richard Schmelter is in the US Army, lives in South Korea and is the only friend on Elisa Lam's fake Facebook page. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] An adaptable "invisibility cloak" that hides objects even as they change shape has been unveiled by researchers in the US and South Korea. [link to physicsworld.com] My next logical question would have to be: what is Elisa's father's name and does he have any connection to Anthony Vu? good point! |
arkadiy User ID: 35076264 Russia 02/24/2013 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed i such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to the phrase Sa Mallei which means its Mallei which means Mallei Bacterium which produces TB or Ganders. These are just a couple of ideas. So how they tracked a victim? Why Elisa Lam was travelling in LA, who knows about it besides parents, sister and Richard? Was she invited by InvisibleLight? Why she didnt stay in Cecil Hotel? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed in such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to: Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to: the phrase 'Sa Mallei' which means 'its Mallei' which means 'Mallei Bacterium' which produces TB or Ganders. |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/24/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. (..) Quoting: IndigoMoon My next logical question would have to be: what is Elisa's father's name and does he have any connection to Anthony Vu? good point! yes, a pitty IndigoMoon did not return to this thread to say what he found out. there were enough links to begin seaching... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed i such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to the phrase Sa Mallei which means its Mallei which means Mallei Bacterium which produces TB or Ganders. These are just a couple of ideas. So how they tracked a victim? Why Elisa Lam was travelling in LA, who knows about it besides parents, sister and Richard? Was she invited by InvisibleLight? Why she didnt stay in Cecil Hotel? Information the media is not asking or exposing. Questions anyone would ask. But they are not asking or telling. |
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DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/24/2013 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. (..) Quoting: IndigoMoon My next logical question would have to be: what is Elisa's father's name and does he have any connection to Anthony Vu? good point! yes, a pitty IndigoMoon did not return to this thread to say what he found out. there were enough links to begin seaching... i made it!caught up! i love how people criticize people on this thread for going into conspiracy and this and that...then go on to give their own thoughts/theorys...thats what were doing,nothing anyone on here is stating is etched in stone...just theorys and possibilities by connections made to people or things involved |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18226170 United States 02/24/2013 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. (..) Quoting: IndigoMoon My next logical question would have to be: what is Elisa's father's name and does he have any connection to Anthony Vu? good point! yes, a pitty IndigoMoon did not return to this thread to say what he found out. there were enough links to begin seaching... Ummmm- still searching? Its rather pointless for me to keep coming back to just say "Nope, nothing yet!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. May someone please sum up in short what this thread is all abou?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1497755 Thanks in advance! The thread began with intent to decipher the released "hotel video of victim". I believe the video may be a decoy. It is haunting and odd but there is nothing to gain from it but speculation. As I said before, as sad as it is to state, her death is not the key. It is her name and its relationship to the TB antigen name and outbreak where CDC was called in to 1 block away, 3 days later and in the way her body was disposed of, as in the water tank which is a way to "infect" or "contaminate". The toxicology results have not been released yet...who knows what they may show and who knows if they will state to the general public what they may find. |
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phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/24/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed i such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to the phrase Sa Mallei which means its Mallei which means Mallei Bacterium which produces TB or Ganders. These are just a couple of ideas. So how they tracked a victim? Why Elisa Lam was travelling in LA, who knows about it besides parents, sister and Richard? Was she invited by InvisibleLight? Why she didnt stay in Cecil Hotel? Information the media is not asking or exposing. Questions anyone would ask. But they are not asking or telling. ^^ this. finally, someone seems to understand me, what i want to do in this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29091069 Netherlands 02/24/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. Bernard Diaz, 89, who has lived at the Cecil for 32 years, told the LA Times that he heard a 'tremendous' racket on his floor above him the night Lam disappeared. He said the floor also experience flooding that night. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/24/2013 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. news summed up: - she did not stay at the Cecil Hotel on #640, but on the "Stay at Maint" belonging to the Cecil on #620. [link to nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com] [link to www.bedbugregistry.com] - the permanent resident who heard loud sounds from above according to [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] is real and actually lives there [link to www.spokeo.com] - her assumingly real FB page [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] - body found naked [link to www.examiner.com] - body in decay for * 19 days [link to www.examiner.com] - picture with graffiti near watertanks, fake or not? if not, connected ? [link to matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com] - picture of elevator panel [link to i.imgur.com] - who owns the Cecil Hotel: search here: [link to kepler.sos.ca.gov] and who is William Lanting: [link to www.corporationwiki.com] --------------------------------- old sum-ups so far: from page 6: ... Quoting: phoenixe with corrections/additions! i tried to put things together (please add/correct if something is missing/wrong): - 21 year old Canadian student Elisa Lam with "mental issues" (depression/bipolar)prefers contacts to persons over the internet. - travels alone and ends up dead in a water tank where she either was put in or got in on her own in Cecil Hotel. - was found dead on feb 19th and said to be decomposing in there for more than 2 weeks - last seen alive in the hotel according to LAPD on Jan 31st [link to edition.cnn.com] - Lam Elisa is a tuberculosis test [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] - tuberculosis outbreak around the same date she was found in the same L.A. neighbourhood [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] - last twitter on jan 28th, "speakeasy" maybe referring to a secret club in LA [link to twitter.com (secure)] - hotel review from vancouver customer on expedia on feb 13th [link to www.expedia.ca] - last tumblr pic on the feb 18th [link to nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com] - mysterious facebook page "elisa lam" created on feb 21st [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] - mysterious and only fb friend of her page: richard. friends since 21st [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] - richard lives (according to fb) in south korea and has many korean friends, is in the army and has a profile picture with an asian woman in the background, commented on jan 2nd to be a korean friend which is late - according to her instagram [link to instagram.com] she and richard [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] either have the same race of dog (malteser) or know each other at least since oct 2012, were pictures of this dog show up in her instagram (on richards fb pics of this dog since at least sept 2011) not yet mentioned in this thread: this pic showing an "elisa lam" [link to www.supermodelme.tv] last tumblr entry from her from "3 weeks ago": [link to nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com] I have arrived in Laland… and there is a monstrosity of a building next to the place I’m staying when I say monstrosity mind you I’m saying as in gaudy but then again it was built in 1928 hence the art deco theme so yes it IS classy but then since it’s LA it went on crack Fairly certain this is where Baz Lurhmann needs to film the Great Gatsby -------------------------------------------------- added: [link to www.invisiblelight.tv] pyramide shaped logo, located at the cecil hotel 620 S Main Street Suite 203 Los Angeles, CA 90014 ************************ from page 11: new summary of findings: Quoting: phoenixe - Elisa Lam did not drown (else they would have found water in her lungs / the reason she is dead by now) [link to abclocal.go.com] - Invisible Light Agency located at the Cecil Hotel is specialised in visual effects and somehow "alternate reality" according to this article [link to www.cgchannel.com] /2011/04/eye-candy-immersive-cocoon-2011/ - Anthony Vu, mentioned in the article above, now works as Senior Visual Effects Artist/Supervisor at RAYTHEON MISSILE SYSTEMS which develops all kind of new weapons, (including microwave weapons!) and has worked more than 2 years for Church of Scientology according to his LinkedIn-profile [link to www.linkedin.com] - Elisa Lam tweeted on Jan 13 [link to twitter.com (secure)] about a Huffpost article about "Maple Ridge, B.C.-based Hyperstealth Biotechnology has developed "Quantum Stealth," a type of camouflage that bends light around the wearer or an object to create the illusion of invisibility." [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] - "invisible cloak" technology is being developed by the US and South Korea and works on microwave technology [link to physicsworld.com] connecting the dots (and i know it sounds absolutely crazy!) Richard (who friended -as only friend - her facebook profile the day it was created-where she was already long dead) is in the army and lives in South Korea; the company creating "invisibility" is located in the Hotel Cecil she was murdered; and it explains why we maybe just see shadows on the video and she looks like a schizophrenic in there: she is maybe confronted with invisible people harrassing her. ************************ agreement from page 15: would be great to move on in this case, as we have a legit connection who is involved in, but no reason for her death yet. - she did not die in the water tank - she was dead when she was put in the tank - she was not a schizoprenic fighting ghosts in the elevator video - she was talking to/fighting humans in the elevator video, either visible or not; most likely invisible due to military technology used. ************************ additions: already mentioned in this thread and participants aware of: - the meanings of "Speakeasy" - significance of Aquarius-connection - significance of numerology - TB Outbreak - TB test LAM Elisa - Chelsea Damali Psychic Reading - Aleister Crowley / LAM Cult and other occult stuff connected (eg Hollywood, Oscars) - Dark Water Movie - Black Dahlia Murder - Richard dressing in red suit and devil horns gesture (as always, if something missing/wrong please correct me! thx) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. I believe most are missing the point. She died of unatural causes. This is self evident. Her whole death is wrapped in mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 It is obvious that those responsible used her as a marker. A statement only for those who see. Not the general population. The key is not so much her death, but would more likely be in her name and how she was disposed of. She was disposed i such a way as to "contaminate". Her name is related to a TB antigen. When the letters of her name are rearranged, they bring pointers to Malaise 1 - the feeling of unease as at the onset of a disease or illness and to the phrase Sa Mallei which means its Mallei which means Mallei Bacterium which produces TB or Ganders. These are just a couple of ideas. So how they tracked a victim? Why Elisa Lam was travelling in LA, who knows about it besides parents, sister and Richard? Was she invited by InvisibleLight? Why she didnt stay in Cecil Hotel? Information the media is not asking or exposing. Questions anyone would ask. But they are not asking or telling. ^^ this. finally, someone seems to understand me, what i want to do in this thread. Yes, this whole thing reeks of dis-information and lack of information. It gives anyone watching it a sure feeling of "more than meets the eye". Because of this fact, it is certainly safe to believe this was not a random act of evil. It is wrapped in intrigue, secrecy, and 'insiders'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35076825 United States 02/24/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. Just for information. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22585439 Elisa Lam = Malaise l = Malaise (/məˈleɪz/ mal-AZE) is a feeling of general discomfort or uneasiness, of being "out of sorts", often the first indication of an infection or other disease. Elisa Lam = sa Mallei = its Mallei Mallei is a bacterium which causes TB or Ganders This is probably a scam. |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/24/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. May someone please sum up in short what this thread is all abou?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1497755 Thanks in advance! The thread began with intent to decipher the released "hotel video of victim". I believe the video may be a decoy. It is haunting and odd but there is nothing to gain from it but speculation. As I said before, as sad as it is to state, her death is not the key. It is her name and its relationship to the TB antigen name and outbreak where CDC was called in to 1 block away, 3 days later and in the way her body was disposed of, as in the water tank which is a way to "infect" or "contaminate". The toxicology results have not been released yet...who knows what they may show and who knows if they will state to the general public what they may find. sorry, but completely wrong. this thread here was never about the video. this was always specific (see page 1 first post) as mainstream is/was discussed in other threads already. signed, "the owner" maybe you´re talking about "elisa lam threads" altogether? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 United States 02/24/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. Bernard Diaz, 89, who has lived at the Cecil for 32 years, told the LA Times that he heard a 'tremendous' racket on his floor above him the night Lam disappeared. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29091069 He said the floor also experience flooding that night. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] I am sure it has been investigated and we will never be told what was found. Wishing there was a journalist that existed that would take this to the bottom of its truth. |
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