Woman clothed in the Sun with the Moon under her feet sign October 6 2013

Sorry, you lost me.

No, based on scriptures mainly.

I am not too well versed in astrology, reason why I follow this thread with interest.

I like Waterman's point of view and some of the debates happening on this particular thread.

matthew 24:36

Are you referring to me?
I don't think I ever made any prediction, did I?

As for your quote from Mat., is it referring to the last hour?
Waterman is talking about the return of Elijah but I don't think that it is related, or is it?

Got tricked by the flag. :)

Eve is not equal with Jesus......Jesus is KING AND PRIEST the final 2 witnesses one will be a king representing Jesus' kings side on earth as Jesus is King in heaven and the other witness will be a priest representing Jesus' priest side on earth as Jesus is Priest in heaven

Because in Jeremiah it states that the davidic kingship and levitical priesthood are eternal and the only way to fill both offices is by 2 people(two witnesses) otherwise if it is filled by one person it turns into a melchelzedek(king and priest) and the promise is not fulfilled

Jeremiah 33:
17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.

I've heard this before,but I just do not think that 'Woman clothed in the Sun with the Moon under her feet' is a literal thing.

The chapter in question the verse appears in is full of symbology.I think it simply refers to Israel and her heritage,and this is why.

'And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said , Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.' Genesis 37:9

The sun and moon turned out to be Josephs parents,and the 11 stars his brothers.The bothers that together make up all the 12 tribes of Israel.

Now compare it to the verse in question...

'And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:' Revelation 12:1

so yeah...
I think the woman is just referring to Israel and the heritage she comes from.I mean the child that she gives birth to that is caught up to God is obviously Jesus.

And the Dragon that seeks to devour the child with the 10 crowns obviously represents satan and also his incarnation in the end days beast kingdom.The dragon even pulls a third of the stars to earth with it's tail,symbolizing the fall of the fallen angels from heaven.


That chapter is almost exclusively symbology representing things.I highly doubt a constellation formation appearing in the sky has any relevance to the tribulation.The OP subject is just talking about Israels heritage,nothing more.

We don't have long to find out 31 days left

THY seed and HER seed

HER seed have been hijacked by HIS seed, but do not realize it.
She will blow all covers as she is Buying Her Stairway to Heaven............

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

The 2 witnesses come in, during rev 11, the woman 12 so logically speaking i would say they come first however...Im not sure about how this works because how do we know they put it together properly...generally speaking when I read it, it seemed as though the prophets One in the Spirit of Elijah and One in the spirit of Moses or Enoch or maybe even Jacob, I think what is meant by in the spirit meaning intent and mission or teshuva in life to fullfill, their mission ...I know that John was in fact Elijah, in spirit. He of course was not aware of this but Christ was. This is not a form of reincarnation but rather transmigration. I also believe that the generation CHrist said wouldnt pass until they saw the son coming is this one...I believe their are people here right now with us that are sparks of those people back then...I really believe that they will be given the opportunity to repent ...father forgive them for they know not what they do....this could be part of the 144k remnant.

Bring on the fire-breathing witnesses! Oh yeah!!! Lol

30 days til arrival of elijah
70 days ti russia attacks america

I've been saying this since june 17....the countdown is just getting closer now

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You guys are amateurs, watch EternalRythmFlow on YouTube.

This is what "The Woman Clothed With The Sun" is really about.

He has many good videos including superior knowledge of the four soon approaching tetrads.

He will be 4 years too late...the day of the lord is when russia and china attack and that is going to happen this year not 4 years from now..........notice also eternalrythflow always has his paypal account link so you can donate to him or he has videos on my tooth hurts and I'm outta money or I'm being evicted any bit of help would be nice. Not sure if his channel is for the lord or just a 2nd income

Last Edited by waterman on 09/06/2013 07:24 PM

29 days:

Bull.
The day of the Lord is hwen absolute judgement will be poured out on the wicked.And it is at the end of the tribulation.
Perhaps mystery babylon will have something to do with america's destruction.But even that won't come until much later.

Your dates will come and go like any other...

Ge:3:15:
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Ge:3:16:
Unto the woman he said,
I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be to thy husband,
and he shall rule over thee.

The next woman mentioned in that chapter is Mary, seed of Eve (Luke family tree) and mother to the one that was bruised.

Maybe she overstepped her bounds and said too much...

28 days left til elijah arrival

waterman--do u think oct 6 is feast of trumpets> the reason I ask is because I saw a video where the person was saying what u say but that it was also the real feast of trumpets? could u explain how that could be?

I don't think october 6 2013 is rosh hashanah I think it is the arrival of elijah and then 40 days later will be considered the true rosh hashanah november 14/15 2013

Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Feast of Tabernacles are the 3 fall feasts but are only rehearsals to the true meaning of the feasts

In the end the true Rosh Hashanah date will happen the day Russia and China attack America(Gods judgement) and the 10 days of awe between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur will actually be 10 years of awe (42 months of Jacobs trouble and then the beginning of the 7 year tribulation for a total of 10 years

Jacob is America and they will be destroyed and taken into captivity for 42 months before the beginning of the 7 year tribulation:




When will Elijah the prophet appear in the world?
The first thing we need to determine is when is "The great and terrible day of the lord"?

We know from Malachi 4:5-6:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse


So we know Elijah comes BEFORE the curse....so before the tribulation starts.


When paul is speaking of 'the day of the lord' in 1 thessalonians 5:3 he says they will be saying peace and safety right before the day of the lord begins so it is a pre-tribulation time that Elijah arrives on the scene because Elijah will be sent "BEFORE" the day of the lord:

1 thessalonians 5:3:
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction comes upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.



The next question would be:
How long before the day of the lord does Elijah come to turn the hearts of the children to the fathers and the heart of the fathers to the children?

With television and media sources I would think 40 days would be an ample amount of time for a God sent Elijah to send a message of repentance to the people so let's work with 40 days which in the bible represents time of testing or judgement and the same period of time ninevah received to turn back to God in Jonahs time.





When John the baptist came in the power and spirit of Elijah he came clearing a path for the arrival of messiah(Jesus)

When the last day Elijah comes he will clear a path for the arrival of "the day of the lord" in a time of judgement.

When God brings judgement he brings your enemies against you to deliver the rod of discipline and then later breaks that rod when he is finished using it.

The day of the lord may be the judgement of the united states and the carrying away captive of the small remnant that will survive the judement which will be taken into captivity and through a furnace of affliction made into a holy people







When a moshiach(anointed one) arrives there is a pattern of showing up and then going back into hiding and then reappearing which should be the same thing Elijah will do

examples of anointed ones arriving then going into hiding then reappearing

1. Moses ruler in Egypt then went into desert for 40 years before arriving as deliverer of Hebrew children

2. Eiljah test with the prophets of baal then was afraid of Jezebel and then went into hiding to reappear later

3. Jesus arrived 2000 years ago to be our atonement for sin and after being gone for 2000 years will reappear in the end


4. The final Elijah should appear with a 40 day call to repentance before the judgement and then go into the wilderness just as most all of Gods servants do as even Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness before his beginning of his ministry



The question is what sign will bring forth the final Elijah?

Perhaps the sign of the woman clothed with the sun and moon under her feet of Ocotber 6 2013 will be the sign that brings forth the final Elijah with a 40 day call to repentance before the great and terrible day of the lord:











The next thing we need to look at is the misconception that the tribulation period is only 7 years long when revelation 2:10 states you will have tribulation 10 days which represent 10 years:
Rev 2:10:
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer : behold , the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried ; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

There is a time known as Jacobs trouble and people automatically throw this time period in with the 7 year tribulation when actually it should be 42 months prior and separate to the 7 year tribulation bringing the total tribulation to 10 days(years) as stated in Rev 2:10


This time period will coincide with the fulfillment of the 3 fall feasts that need to be fulfilled:

1. Feast of trumpets(Day of the lord)
2. Feast of Yom Kippur(10 days later) representing 10 years
3. Feast of Tabernacles(1000 year millinium)


The time period between Feast of trumpet and Yom kippur are known as 10 days of awe but in actuality they will be 10 years of awe and will end with the death of the two witnesses being the official day of atonement(Yom kippur) as the tishri 1-10 are merely rehearsals to the true fulfillment of the fall feast which could not be celebrated with as much rememberance if they were celebrated with the true 10 years of awe so just 10 days of awe between feast of trumpets and yom kippur are celebrated each year to keep those fall feasts in rememberance


So when the judgement of America comes it will be considered the true Feast of trumpets date and possibly it will be 40 days after the final Elijah shows up which could be October 6 2013. The true yom kippur date will be the final day of the two witnesses testimony and death

The term twinkling of an eye means the time between sunset and evening

1 corinthians 15:52:

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.






The true Rosh Hashanah 40 days after the sign of Revelation 12 the woman clothed with the sun and moon at her feet happens and the arrival of Elijah on October 6 2013





bringing the day of the lord and true Rosh Hashanah to November 14/15 2013 at the time between sunset and evening

This seems more accurate about The Woman clothed in the Sun with the Moon under her feet sign

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