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Thanks for proving my point about you being a paid shill? Don't you have anything better to do than SUDDENLY be all over at least two threads that discuss Planet X?

And to the TRAITOR who used to be a mod at the PS Ning: NO ONE, let me repeat that, NO ONE respects a traitor.

How does it feel being a traitor? You know, stabbing people in the back who trusted you?

Notice that readers are not much interested in what you have to post anymore because all you do is repeat yourself.

When you had juicy bits of gossip (unproved BTW) then the paid shills here were somewhat interested in you.

But since you can no longer get info as you did as a mod, you are not interesting anymore, not even to the paid shills.

How will YOU feel, Traitor, when NASA/Obama announces Planet X is real? YOU, Traitor, will not be able to avoid the truth then and YOU will disappear from GLP.

Learn to take your lumps, all you shills, fast, as the announcement IS going to happen.

Not only will that be Zetas right again the paid shills here will come back with new screen names JUST to debunk ZetaTalk (you know debunking Planet X will make no sense when NASA says it is real).

ELEMENTAL: The PS ning is NOT about the membership total. Never has been, never will be. YOU, paid shill, concentrate on that because it is the ONLY think that even remotely appears to support your arguments about the PS ning.

It is about the readers, Elemental, not the membership number.

You will refuse to understand this simple concept because you are paid not to understand.

But YOU, Elemental, WILL understand Planet X is real, soon enough. Better then your next cute picture of an animal typing and new screen name soon.

I've thought about your post and am really trying to find a point of empathy somewhere.. I'm not a *hard* person, I've undergone (to me) great loss and sadness and feel your strength of conviction. It is, sadly, misplaced. No further conversation is necessary. I have taken insults and demeaning

Thread: Are ZetaTalk fans welcome now? (Page 2)

without giving retribution. A case simply stated.

Wait.. What?

You come here to whine and look for new members and then you wonder why people bother to counter the BS being spread?



Nice try. Eventually you will realize how it feels to have been decepted for years by that seemingly nice and kind grandma that is spoon-feeding you.

Also, I do not regret one little bit of it!
It was the most effective thing I was able to do and I am more than happy with the outcome.
But let me guess,
the fact that you feel betrayed is reason enough for you to discount all the analysis provided, eh?

Talking about irrationalism.



Your suggestive-attempts are very entertaining..

Ok, lets play your game then:
Even if it were true, I don't care... as every now and then, when it is needed it is there for people to be read.


And there you just attested your inability for rational thinking again.

You're already living in the world AFTER the announcment while you don't have any proof that such a thing was ever planned!



Yea sure, just like Obama was going to make it 93% by the end of 2012..




Yesss yeesss... of course we have no other life than ZetaTalk.. and nothing better to do...

Sarcasm aside..
NASA already made it clear what they think of Nancy.

Also I highly doubt that people will sight and measure another planet in the solar system all of the sudden.

Lets get real, your life seems pretty sad.
You wait and wait.. and nothing happens




Right, its about amateurs trying to interprate scientific issues just the way they would like to have it.
In other words is all about BS... not about quality or quantity.


Amateurs who believe Earth is stopped in its orbit..


Yess yeess... sure..
SOON we will all see light at the end of the tunnel... sure!
Soon = never.




Predictable as a clockwork



Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/17/2013 08:54 AM

Well, the Zetas stated that there are no more Neandertal men. That was definitely wrong cause you can find a lot of them on the poleshit.ning.com. They at least have the same amount of brain there.

It is pointless debating a paid shill because they are PAID not to understand.

They are PAID to ignore the evidence that Planet X has been in the inner solar system for years. No amount of proof will suffice.

They are PAID not to understand what the mature, honest souls who are capable of accepting the hard truth about Planet X.

The primary purpose of the paid debunker thread is to justify the PAID shills' existence and paychecks. Notice how few regular type people post on this thread? The few that do usually say why are you STILL debunking something that was supposedly debunked, you know, ALREADY?

Here is what the sad soul who betrayed his friends at the PS Ning wants: He wants respect! He wants respect in the worst way, so he thought he could get some here at the paid debunker thread instead.

Since the TRAITOR is getting like no love or respect from the paid shills, he is posting anonymously on other threads, desperately trying to get some attention from the souls he deliberately betrayed (and for what?).

No respect for you, TRAITOR! Not even the paid shills respect you! Most have lost interest because you have nothing new to share, no gossip, etc.

I could be as cruel as the TRAITOR and discuss him the same way he discusses his former friends, but I will never stoop that low.

And yes, welcome paid shill Elemental. Just wonder which paid shill screen name you were using before. Yes, it is OBVIOUS you are a paid shill sent here to debunk Planet X, ZetaTalk, and the PS ning: You pretend you don't understand.


Got it?!

She has done nothing to deserve that kind of ad hominem insult.

And there we go for the next logical-fallacy-report.

(Hey, YOU, why don't you take a brake and come back with some real arguments? Such posts will only trigger others taking apart your mental problems.)

Before we talk about paid-debunkers show us concrete proof of someone involved here being paid.
If you can't, its just another loose claim to support your other loose claims.



Sounds like you have an abundance of proof of PX... May bother to present it?


Note that the people here will not just blindly believe Nancy's words... so you need more than that.. unfortunately.



Guess you must be one of those "mature, honest souls who are capable of accepting the hard truth" eh?

So another one of those self-proclaimed STO, mature, honest whatever people.. how reassuring!



Wow, you're like a metronome!
I mean, haven't we already pointed out how irrelevant "paid or not paid" is in the context of what is being presented??
Facts remain Facts.





Respect? lol.
I want people to wake up, which was successfully managed..
I can't have all people wake up though... Some just feel better with someone else do their thinking.



Awww.. Im such a poor soul and seek attention so desperately!! You Got me!! People please hate me now as I am a Traitor and "getting like no love or respect". LOL!




Thats fine... I have more stories and more backups but eventually I realized I collected enough of it allready and those who do not realize the true situation have other reasons. (Its not lacking examples or instances.)



Its not as bad as you think, "down" here..



Lets switch the game:

YOU are the paid shill!! PAID BY NANCY!

You are paid not to argue but to blindly parrot her words!
You are paid not to think but to blindly believe!
You are paid ....

I WILL NOT BELIEVE A DAMN WORD OFF YOU, YOU PAID NUTJOB!

Just kidding... you're welcome to bring up some arguments.


(A tip: really take a brake next time before you post, re-read and ask yourself wether this is an "wise and honest, adult" approach)...

None of us are paid to debunk Nancy's crap. Believing so is definitely a sign of insecurity in your beliefs.

Claiming that the debunkers are paid is another way that Nancy inflates her ego - she is so self-important that she believes there must be a vast conspiracy to put her down and smother her message. She's a martyr in her own mind (remember the Joan of Arc/Mother Theresa comparison she made?). Equating herself to those two people is a sign of an overblown ego.

If I was paid to debunk zetacrap, I wouldn't be working in one city on the east coast of Florida while I have a house (which I only get to live in a couple weekends a month) in southwest Florida (a drive of at the least 3.5 hours one-way).


As you rant on about a supposed traitor, I don't consider him to be a traitor. He's someone who realized that all of Nancy's ramblings are bullshit. He came to his senses.

Unfortunately, you'll wallow along in your beliefs till the end of your days. You'll live in fear of something that doesn't exist. You're just a true believer and nothing more - a poor pathetic ignorant person who has hitched their wagon to a near-cult of planet eX believers. Someone who is unable to think for themselves and believes only what Nancy tells you to believe.

I should add, based on a user ID search, that you are one of the "true believers" from the ning - you're the one that started the thread about Trinity not banning ningtards. So I would hazard the guess that you're probably Ann S. or one of the 'supreme true believers' (i.e., one of Nancy's lap dogs).

Last Edited by bob_909 on 03/17/2013 09:36 AM

CONFIRMED!!! Photographic evidence of NibiruPlanetX right here!
[link to forums.macrumors.com]

This is of course the reason why the ad hominem, and its Shill Gambit variety, is considered a logical fallacy.

And it is of course why people use it in the first place.
To try to deflect attention away from the fact that they do not have evidence or reasoned arguments that can be used as a rebuttal.

People who have evidence present it, no need to resort to ad homs.
So, using ad homs is pretty much an admission that you've got nuthin'.

Which gets us to Halcyon's corollary to Godwin's Law:
Anyone who can only respond to a rebuttal by accusing their opponents of being shills loses the debate by default.

OMG right under his nose is a funneling, twirling moonswirl!

I could write that it is pointless to debate the religious zealot, since they have no rational way to change their minds. But I'd be wrong. Because that's not who you debate to convince. You *can't* teach the true believer. But you can reach others.

You, for example, cannot be as brave as Tunnel Vision, and erect a evidential goal post that, if met, would force you to abandon your belief in the Cult of Nancy. That takes real courage, which you obviously lack. But Tunnel Vision showed such.

More gutsy still, Tunnel Vision continues to admit his original error, and grow from it, rather than stagnate the way the Zeta believers are forced to, given that PX continues to refuse to show, the Obama administration refuses to perform as Nancy advertises, and nature seems to ignore ZT altogether.

Tunnel Vision is still here, still debating, while Nancy and her followers can engage in nothing but ad hominems and other fallacious arguments. It's all Nancy and her overzealous followers have, but they are too cowardly to admit it -- even to themselves.

Sad.

Normally the Ningtards have their moon swirls in their heads. They are apparently making some progress over there. Now they have them under their nose.

According to the huge amount of lies they present on their poleshit ning their noses should be longer than the one of Pinocchio. So the correct form of Nancy Lieder would be Nanocchio or Nanocchia, the woman that always lies.

[link to pandodaily.files.wordpress.com]

Oh dear, it's clear to see that your defensive posts show a lack of truth & sincerity. Call me whatever you like; the facts remain the same. There is no verifiable evidence to support the existence of a planet x. There neither is nor was any valid excuse for ordering the murder of animals.
I rest my case.

Hi Ann S.

will you now revoked your statement at the Poleshit.ning, that Poleshit-Ningers are banned from GLP?
Because you and other Poleshit tards constantly prove that they are not banned.




There is a nice button under your User-ID: "Report Abusive Post".
May be one or two readers of your posts didn't agree with your "mode of expression" and the mods gave you some days to think about your filth.



And since you believe earth is halted in its orbit, please answer the following question (and if you can't, please forward it to the Zetas):

Lets assume, Earth is halted in the orbit since 2003.
Lets further assume, the Zetas tilt and move Earth a little to simulate the Seasons.


Here something to think about:
There are summer and winter constellations.
Eg Taurus, Gemini or Orion, easy to recognise in the northern winter - and Libra or Scorpio in the northern summer.

If Earth is halted in orbit - don't orbit around the sun - shouldn't we see the same constellations all over the year?

Why can we see Taurus, Gemini and Orion only in the northern winter?
Why can we see Libra and Scorpio only in the northern summer?

There are only three ways to explain this:
1 - Earth is not halted in orbit.
2 - The Zetas move the entire universe around Earth.
3 - The Zetas use some kind of magic.



I know, that the Poleshit-Ningers avoid logic and thinking like the devil avoids the holy water.

But give it a try - thinking don't hurt - and it's fun.

:brainuseit:


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Heh. I've been asking Nancy that one for years.

Blahdeblahdeblahdebollocks. Sorry, your rhetoric is becoming inordinately tedious.

Oops - wrong smilie.

It's for a Zetatard not the common GLP-tard

:brainuseitsm:

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The problem of the Ningtards is that they live in a world of self-deception. Their concept of a Nibiru has lost every aspect of reality. It got a kind of religion for them, a half-god they admire and adore. No planet just makes a break and waits ten years in a fixed position to serve the religious feelings of some cult-followers. No astronomer has ever seen such a planet, because it simply doesn`t exist. And these people – both professionals and amateurs – use modern telescopes. If it was there everybody could see it by the naked eye. But as there was no evidence the cult-followers started to invent some evidence by using old floppy-disks. So they could proudly present some lenseflares which got their new religion.

This is also the reason why they wait and wait. At the end of their cult tunnel only Godot will wait to make some jokes about them. I think the NASA and everybody with some astronomic background made definitely clear that this idea of a Nibiru is a hoax. Everybody can easily verify that with a telescope. You only have to look into the sky. So it is crazy to even discuss this topic.

The cult-followers just (ab)use their own belief that is given to them by their cult-leader Nancy Liar to reassure them about their strange ideas. Such things can only happen in the censored and isolated world of a cult: online and offline. But most of their members awoke and realized what Nancy was doing with them. COS also got a victim of the cult, but he didn’t give up his ability of logical thinking. And he had the personality and the will to admit that he was wrong. Besides that he also helped others to escape from the strict cult-system by showing how Nancy Lieder works. In your terms he would be a real STO though I don’t like using the special cult language. He is a man who didn’t close his eyes when it was necessary to say the truth. And the facts he presented were a disaster for Nancy Lieder`s cult. He helped many innocent souls to escape from the spiderweb of Nancy Lieder.

Nobody here is paid, but most of the guys or women posting here have some astronomic background or a strong common sense. They try to help the victims of the cult to find their way back into society and real life. There are not many members left on the poleshift.ning.com because you can only fool people for a certain time. Then they will awake and penetrate the strange sect system they were driven into. Also Niels N. a long time follower of the sect closed his cult-board back in 2012 as he realized the madness of it. He still always suffers under the damage the cult has done to him but it looks like he slowly can recover. The bigotry of the last followers of the cult is stupendous but also understandable to a certain degree. This cult got their religion and when it comes to this point facts do not count anymore for them. We can only hope that also the last few fanatic followers of this cult will soon awake and see that they were some flies in the spiderweb: helpless, lethargic, hopeless, blinded and abused. The story of Zetatalk is a very sad story because it shows all the spiritual abyss of cults in the modern internet. For the Zeta-followers the Dark Ages never ended.

PS: @Elemental: I tried to answer your mail but I couldn`t as I`m no paying member. You are welcome. Do you have an email or a messenger?

Sean

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 03/17/2013 11:56 AM

No one with any brains needs to be paid to see through nonsense. Methinks thou dost protest too much, hmm?



Yes, it has, but you and the rest of the flock just keep repeating the same disproven BUNK, so we keep repeating the facts. No real surprise there. All you really have as a defense is the pathetic claim that simply because we KEEP saying you are wrong, that you must be right. Hilarious!




No one here is paid to post, and, just like JW DELL, he DID gain the respect of reasonable people.



There are no "paid shills" speaking out against Nancy's hoax- that is just a necessary part OF the hoax. Without that idea, the whole thing just falls apart, so you just keep harping on that silly notion.



This is called "SPIN"- a pathetic attempt at discrediting one who came to see the light and exposed Nancy's hoax for what it is.




Just keep screeching about "paid shills"- it's all you have left.

Hydra -- I can't seem to post over on IDW/A.A's solar doom thread, but I wanted to say thanks for finding and posting the .PDF of the Solar Eclipses Canon I got. Very cool find, and I can verify that the .PDF matches the hardcopy I have.

Thanks, Hydra!

You really believe that? Why would the U.S. invade Iraq to secure the oil fields when 90% of Earth's population was going to be destroyed during the "pole shift" that was supposed to happen on May 15, 2003? They could just wait until after the "pole shift" was over and simply take everything they wanted. My god - do you EVER use your brain to think? BTW, we get very little oil from Iraq so that blows another big hole in your theory.

And I suspect you'll still be waiting 50 years from now...assuming you haven't passed away by then.

Ann....how nice of you to drop by. So, how's that Obama announcement coming along?

And your proof of this is what? Present any kind of evidence showing that people are paid to show how and why you and Nancy are wrong. Failure to do so will be taken as an admission that you were/are lying.


No amount of proof? Where's the proof? None has been presented. Why hasn't even ONE believer EVER gotten a telescope and used it to photograph this supposed planet? Why are ALL photos of it highly questionable images taken through floppy disks, unfiltered cameras or webcams? A few years ago, a "debunker" here offered to let Nancy or any person that she trusted use his professional grade equipment to search for and photograph "Planet X." This would have been a win-win situation for Nancy. Not only would she have the proof she do desperately wants, but she could have also rubbed it in our noses because that proof would have been obtained on equipment owned by a "debunker." Did she or any other believer take up this generous offer? Nope, they all ran away from it. Why? It's obvious - they were all afraid of finding out that "Planet X" wasn't really there.


Just like your paid to keep coming here to defend your master. Tell us - how long are you willing to wait for this announcement and "Planet X?" You've been asked this before but you have yet to answer. Why?


What do you care? This is a public forum. If you don't like what we're saying here, why do you keep coming back? The only reason I can come up with is because Nancy orders (and pays) you to.

Just the fact that she can see through Nancy's BS is all the justification in the world that Nancy's paid drones need to attack people.

Hey, he is brain dead, give him half credit...

Father Malachi Martin on Vatican observatory:

"Knowledge of what is going on in space and of what is approaching us could be of great import in next 5 - 10 years." This statement was made by the late Father Malachi Martin in response to a question pertaining to the purpose of the Vatican owned Mount Graham International Observatory. From 1958 to 1964 he served in Rome, where he was a close associate of Pope John XXIII. Father Malachi Martin passed away late 1999.
..... Hmm I wonder what he's referring to??







Malachi Martin has read the "Third Secret of Fatima", which he would not talk about it with Art Bell on the air. Art did ask him, "Would millions of people perish?" Malachi replied, "Its worse than that, its worse than you can imagine"



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