Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

(Have you already made a physical representation of it?)

Hi! I once made a "representation" of what it would look like on paper. Does that aid in speeding up the process? Should I continue to use that process along with the other processes I mentioned? Approximately how much time should I focus on each process? I have to draw what I see as a reference to use. Is that ok?

Interesting, will you explain this in more detail in the new Ec material?



Now we're really getting somewhere. But how do you determine exactly what that relationship is?



You lost me on this one.



Yes, definitely getting somewhere. Again, the big question is how can we figure out what it is that it represents? Will the new Ec material help out with this?




Yes, all this is getting somewhere. Great things to think about. But I'm hoping the new Ec material will give the framework necessary to understand this (all the relationships) in more detail.

Well then!

You're on your way :)

Find ways to physically illustrate this gift if you want it to become more physical.

More importantly, interact with the representation(s).

You can also develop a structure around it for added bonus.

So, for example, let's say that you want his gift to be a new car.

So you can start by taking photos with your camera of the car you're thinking about, or drawing pictures of it, or putting together a few toothpicks. Then find ways to interact with it. Allow your representation(s) to interact with other things and people. Put it on the street, show a family member, use it as a paperweight, etc. (No one else need know what it is or what it's for.)

For added bonus, develop some rules around it. For example, make a rule that you will always paint the wheels black, cover the model/drawing with tissue every night, or after you've shown one person you will create a new representation.

It doesn't matter how silly any of this is. What matters is how the representation(s) relate with your environment. You're introducing its physicality to your perspective. Making it comfortable in your world, helping it to evolve, pre-relating it with other representations.

Giving birth to it physically as you would give birth to an idea. So, as an analogy, rather than thinking you will give birth to a full-grown human you will first start with a small seed and it will grow as it interacts with its environment.

The time required to see it in your perspective depends on how relative these things are with your current perspective. As in, "how logical would it be to jump there from where I am standing?"

However, the 'seed' may die on its own, be attracted to your perspective, grow exponentially "out of control" etc. More than likely it will find ways to interact further in your perspective, in different ways.

It's not that you're creating the gift out of thin air, but shifting your perspective. The steps above should provide the necessary intent to your "subconscious" to make that happen.

Thanks.

Greetings!

Unlikely, as the next release creates more of a platform for the exponential advancement of Ecsys ThohT. A kind of virus, if you will.

For the masses there is Ecsys base in the next release, which is as I stated a few posts back.

For a some others, there is Ec, which is designed both to spread the virus (as others see what a few others have done with it) and create new material (as a few others utilize it).

The next version is a bit unrecognizable from the last version. However, the version after that provides much more of the detail you seek. If you learn Ec, you may even be compelled to provide some of this detail yourself.



Quite difficult to express that in English. Most of the words simply do not exist. Thus, Ec.

I can only suggest that you take you set your watch to that time in your dream state and observe the effects.



Daniel Tammet's book, Embracing the Wide Sky, may be an interesting read for this. He sees certain numbers as particular shapes.

So, for illustration purposes, if he sees the number '56' as a cliff with a waterfall behind it and sometimes dreams of such a place, he may at once find himself waking up and seeing "2:56" on the clock. (He would actually be yet dreaming and in 2 places at once, but this is an other post entirely.)



You could also try to represent the number and see how it interacts with your perspective. For example, write the number down in hundreds of places and observe the effects and resultant interactions. Make note of any interesting experiences or patterns.

A crude way to do it, but I could see this working.



You may have better luck in this forum than with the new material :)

The new material changes the dynamics of things, but it probably won't directly answer most of your questions.

Thanks.

Correction!

I mean to say, in the dream state set your watch to a time with those numbers to see what happens.

Thanks.

Well sounds like the new Ec material will give new tools, so I'm looking forward to it.

But I will continue to post here for sure.

But for now, time to put some of your suggestions re number patterns into action, should be fun.

Oh, and BTW I thought this



was a really helpful comment you made to the other poster.

Hi Choal,


Some time ago their was an instruction manual going around the internet on how to create something from nothing which they called light encoding reality matrix.

It used an algorithm sequence

You must use some music or audio tones by humming or in your head through the entire sequence

Mental image of object
feeling the physical of the object using full body
declare ownership of object
ask universe to co-operate in creating the object
and when this is done you have to self generate a burst of vacuum energy from your own cells to bring it in to reality.


Q1. Is creating something instantaneously from nothing possible using the ecsys or ec model?

Q2. If so, is there set algorithm/model or ec set to achieve this? and how far away are we from the release?


Q2. i have tried to calculate the elements involved in the above algorithm but i still have trouble identifying some, can you help?

I was thinking in milla j.actually

Greetings!

I don't know anything about this "light encoding reality matrix" but it sounds as implausible as Ecsys if not more so, especially the part where you self-generate a burst of vacuum energy (whatever that means).

Last time I self-generated a burst of vacuum energy my mommy wasn't too pleased!

Ecsys is not about creating anything, but more about changing perspective. (Or, better yet, making some things more relative to your focus than others.) You can't create something that is already there.

Using Ecsys you can generate a map to what you want to perceive, so to speak. The more relative it is from where you are, the sooner it would seem to 'appear'.

Ecsys is more the "language of the gods", if you will, or the language of consciousness.

We can use an English model (a group of words, for example) in a restaurant to "manifest" a milkshake in our perspective. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative want we want is from where we are (e.g., "does the restaurant serve milkshakes?")

Similarly, we can use Ecsys to "manifest" anything that can be perceived. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative it is from where we are. However, as Ecsys is more fundamental to the workings of perception it (or its effect) will most likely "appear" sooner in your reality.

Even more fundamental is the model that what is known as the dream state uses. Consider Ecsys one of the bridge languages from here to there.

When you are looking at a milkshake what you are experiencing is a representation of the milkshake as it interacts with your consciousness, not the actual milkshake. (Just like when you are talking on the phone or looking at someone, you are not perceiving them directly but interacting with their representation as sound waves or photons, respectively.)

Any model that ignores the value of these representations probably isn't a model that you want to go out with.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!" but once the grand scheme is understood then more use can be made of it.

It's more of a blend of "periodic table of consciousness" + "laws of the gods" than a step-by-step guide. However, it also contains what is called the law of 5/2, or energy perspective. It is the most fundamental law in the universe. (Although there are no laws, per se. The structure of consciousness is the law itself.)

It contains everything you need to do anything you can imagine. It has an interesting "child-proof" design and is wrapped in an amusing package that is its own strength mechanism. Mickey Mouse needs no defense.

I'm aiming for a partial release on November 23, 2010, with the game and mental computer instructions to come a bit after (although any wise person could easily figure this out from looking at Ec).

Regarding your other question about calculating some of the elements, what can I help you with?

Thanks.

To clarify!

Ecsys holds that everything in the universe is one of four types of elements. They are:

:Structure - measurement, rules, definitions, guidelines, hierarchy, framework, linear order, particles

::Potential energy - trust, emotions, fuel or energy, capital, incentives, or anything used for its capacity or space

:::Interaction - association, conversation, sitting, playing, being in a relationship, competing, walking, chaos, waves, gravity, consciousness

:::::Representation - names, symbols, dates, photos, models, souvenirs and keepsakes, portfolio assets, people, matter, perception

You can say that an Ecsys model simply provides a map to where you want to experience.

Instead of two axes (X,Y) on a map we have 4 (the elements above)

Generating a model simply provides the coordinates to how to get there from where you are.

On a map the closer you are to your destination the sooner you may get there.

In Ecsys the more relative your perspective is to what you are changing it to the sooner you will experience it. (Time is all about relativity.)

Basically, there are 4 steps (in no particular order):

We interact with the desired perspective before we 'get there' in order to make it more relative to us.

In order to do that, we find a way to represent the desired perspective in our current perspective (in any way whatsoever).

We develop structure around the whole thing in order to focus the desired perspective.

We use potential energy in order to be open to the possibilities resulting from the process.

Anything you can possibly imagine can be experienced using these 4 steps, as anything you can possibly imagine is one or a combination of the Ecsys elements.

Hope this helps!

Hi choal,

Thanks for the reply and your patience.

I was thinking the matrix creation thing might be another way to power/invoke a perception shift which may appear to some that something was instantaneously created in this realty so that is why i asked, thank you

I am constantly trying to identify the elements in everyday things and situations but i have found some things can be any element!!

I read your previous post about thinking what has this more of, but it is not as cut and dry as that.

Maybe with time and patience i will get better at it. I will keep working on it.

Hanging out for the November release!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Farther!

An Ecsys model can be generated using a combination of simple math (i.e., "structure is 1, potential energy is 2, interaction is 3, representation is 5) and natural language (e.g., "potential energy = 2 blank sheets of paper").

More advanced users may use Ec for more advanced purposes. It's much more efficient than using the above but may also seriously divorce you from the perspectives you grew up with.

Most people will use neither of the above but follow one or more "Houses of the Elements" (which see). It's as easy as pie.

Thanks.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!"



I have been saying this since we started this all those months ago, so at least we have consistency as a theme.

thanks

Farther!

An Ecsys model can be generated using a combination of simple math (i.e., "structure is 1, potential energy is 2, interaction is 3, representation is 5) and natural language (e.g., "potential energy = 2 blank sheets of paper").

More advanced users may use Ec for more advanced purposes. It's much more efficient than using the above but may also seriously divorce you from the perspectives you grew up with.

Most people will use neither of the above but follow one or more "Houses of the Elements" (which see). It's as easy as pie.

Thanks.


May i ask which one you use?

Thanks

Now this is the type of thread we like to read!
Thought-provoking & interesting indeed.
Hope many will look and take heed
To knowledge offered without a creed!

Thanx to the op

:)

Certainly!

Yes, something can be more than one element (and often is).

However, the element that it represents to you for your particular intent probably leans more to one side.

In one model, a car can be a potential energy element.

In your next model, it can be a representation.

If you can provide an example, it may help to clarify.

Thanks.

Sure!

You probably use something very similar without knowing it.

Ec.

It's more of a UFO to an Ecsys model's rocketship.

Thanks.

Hey Chaol,

Question(s) for you. When you left, uhhh shifted your perspective out of this place, what did that look like to those who stayed here? When you came back, what did that look like to those who knew you before?


In other words, what is the "logical" explanation (to them) as to what happened to you?

Good question!

Same as someone sleeping, there is no apparent physical difference when your 'destination' is highly relative to where you are already.

It's like a house where each room represents a particular slice of time's pace. The time that I shift to is like an other room on the other side of a short hallway.

Right now you might be able to experience what's going on in that room if you're willing to shift your focus a bit.

There are less-relative rooms in the house, too. Usually, the other person doesn't see the "you" they know for a while (or permanently). Perhaps you appear to be sick, on holiday, insane, high, drunk, dead, or otherwise away, etc.

It is possible, in theory, that someone you know was in an other dimension without realizing it. Though you may not have seen them physically you may have received phone calls or emails. They may have shifted back for some other purpose. Or perhaps you never saw them again after they turned the corner or graduated from high school.

It's not sexy like on the tubes where someone disappears in a flash of light. It must be a natural part of your experience.

We actually do it all the time without realizing it. Point A to B, point D to E, point Y to Z, etc. And it happens all the time without us realizing it because of the nature of relativity.

We have only to pay attention to these shifts in perspective. Although a more dramatic shift in perspective would be more obvious.

If you can consciously make point A relative to point X, then you are doing something quite extraordinary.

Thanks.

Going from A to B to C is a "WOW!"

Going from A to X to AXI is a "WTF?"

Chaos is simply an order we do not yet understand.

Let's illustrate!

In English, a "ball" is "ball". One of only a few types of balls for a few types of purposes.

In a simple Ecsys model, a ball is one of the four elements. (e.g., "representation")

In an advanced Ecsys model, a ball is a string of elements (e.g., "representation+interaction+potential energy+interaction+structure+interaction") to better-identify what the ball is, what it is doing, where, how, why, etc.



In Ec, "ball" could be the idea of a ball for which 2 letters may be used, or it could be the state of the ball you were playing with at ~4:52pm on your birthday in 1969.

For example: [letter 1]5+[letter 23]+[letter 5]+[letter 12]+[letter 6]

I can only make graphics of the letters, but each [letter] above represents one of the 66 Ecsys letters.

Since each Ec character can represent up to 66 "states", if you wrote out a string of 12 Ec characters you'd have a very specific ball. (Up to 6,831,675,453,247,430,000,000 possible states can be represented with just 12 characters. You don't have to remember each of these states, of course. You have only to remember the representation in Ec to access the possibility. Kind of like a password.)

There is an other, alternate script for Ec called Ec-Alt. An example of this would be +TX +T+I +A-I +T+I. More about all of this will be illustrated further in an other post.

Thanks.

Didn't you say that consciousness doesn't exist, just relationships?.

Yes!

That is correct.

Balls don't exist either, but I think it's good to use common concepts more of us can understand to illustrate a point, or simply to make more sense.

"The evolving discoveries are supremely distant-relative and have more to do with relationships and the representations that comprise them..." probably wouldn't be that good of a read.

Ideally, there'd be a button we can select to choose the level of terms you understand when reading something, so as not to confuse anyone.

Should that it exist.

Thanks.

Hi Choal,

In these posts you have made several references to how relative we are to our own bodies, Well in the ecsys model can we make little subtle changes to our bodies.

I was attacked by a Brazil nut which was eventually consumed but broke one of my teeth in the process.


I was wondering if i could change my perspective of the broken tooth to a good tooth?

Which leads me to wonder if this is possible, as to if we can make other changes, pimples, sunspots,skin color, hair color or are we locked in to our physical perspective?

Thanks

Adding to the tooth post!!!


Can we use these models to change any other health related problems?

Or even aging?

Thanks

Interesting...it makes it all seem so "normal".



OK, so that makes me wonder about something else.
What did you experience/perceive as you shifted out of this place and went back to your home? I can't see how that could seem "normal" by any definition of "normal" I'm aware of.

Please do share.

Thanks for all the replies.

Greetings!

There are two ways of looking at this.

The usual way would be to focus on the broken tooth (or illness, or whatever you don't want in your experience). This actually makes the broken tooth more relative to your experience, as you are interacting with it more. It will probably weaken the integrity of the other teeth, as well, as you are "exploring" the possibilities of broken-toothiness.

As a side note, I think one thing that may surprise most people (from my experience) is how attracted we are to the things we say we don't want. When we choose to interact with something more, it becomes a part of our experience, expectation, and perspective. What would happen when doctors focused more on health instead of illness, preachers on good things rather than about evil or 'the devil', society focusing on education or well-being rather than conflict, wars, violence, etc. We have only to turn on a television to see the kinds of the things that many of us are attracted to, even if we think we don't want those things. What is more interesting to most people? To hear about someone's health or illness?

The other way would be to interact more with the teeth that are not broken. In this way, we evolve the perspective of healthy teeth. We allow the healthy state of teeth to interact.

Similar to focusing on where a "problem" student is doing well instead of on the problem itself, we can explore those things that we want to see more of.

But the real question is, how relative is the broken tooth to your reality? A broken tooth is more than a broken tooth, of course. It is (yes! here comes that word again) a representation of something else.

What else has changed in your life within 2-3 weeks before or after the tooth broke? Does any pain or other effects of the tooth coincide with other events or conditions in your life? (For example)

Also, if a healthy tooth suddenly appearing in your mouth is part of your logical narrative in your current perspective (e.g., would that make sense to you if it happened?) then it could happen.

More probable (if you're like the rest of us) is a gradual return to health that makes sense to you.

How to influence this with Ecsys?

Basically: represent your 'desire', make the experience real (set up rules for it), and interact with it.

For example, if you didn't have the broken tooth (or illness) what would you do? Perhaps the following scenario: using a camera (potential energy) take a hundred photos of your beautiful smile (representation), sharing and/or looking at those photos (interaction), picking out 13 and framing them (structure).

(It can be the same with illness or anything else. A simple question to ask yourself is, "what would I do if...?" Could be a small detail or something larger.)

In this scenario the tooth does not change (there is no tooth) but the perspective changes. Depending on your elements (particularly with how you represent what you want, and the interaction), the broken tooth or illness will become irrelevant.

Thanks.

I've experienced that form of perception before, only it was called LSD.

To add!

It would be quite difficult to maintain the same frame of mind as one had in much younger years.

If you could open your mind instead of closing it as you get older, make stress irrelevant, and minimize the stress of your cells, ageing would not be much of an issue.

Observe youth (or children) and try to figure out how they see the world. Becoming older we make continuous conscious decisions to abandon our youth and make "getting older" more relative to us. What things do we adopt into our lives that represent ageing? Where did our child-like wonder and imagination go? Knowing becomes more important than not-knowing. We often exercise to resist the ageing process, which actually makes us age faster. Ultimately we, not nature, end up ageing ourselves.

Some questions to ask yourself:

How are you interacting or associating with the ageing process? How do you see yourself?

How are you representing being older? (Sending signals of maturity to your peers, covering up your grey hair, exercising often, etc)

What rules on ageing have you adopted? (Thinking about retirement, what you're not supposed to do after a certain age, etc)

Again, we often create the very things we resist.

Thanks.