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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227209 United States 01/26/2011 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing truly exists because what is true is that which cannot be perceived and is beyond existence. Truth does not exist because existence is irrelevant to it. Quoting: ChaolNon-existence created an illusion so that it could relate to itself. From that came the illusion of existence and consciousness. From that relationship came a third, fourth, and so on. Each illusion fluctuates in order to maintain balance. The balance is whatever expends the least amount of energy. It constantly gravitates to that point, if you will. This enables the illusion of movement, progress, whatever. So then we have what seems to be a never-ending universe of things, ideas, etc., from these constantly-changing relationships. Are you familiar with the concept of Maya and Mara? Unfortunately, no. What can you say about it/them? They're old Hindu concepts. Lemme see if I can pull up a text. [link to www.crystalclarity.com] <i>The ancient Vedic scriptures declare that the physical world operates under one fundamental law of maya, the principle of relativity and duality. God, the Sole Life, is an Absolute Unity; He cannot appear as the separate and diverse manifestations of a creation except under a false or unreal veil. That cosmic illusion is maya. Every great scientific discovery of modern times has served as a confirmation of this simple pronouncement of the rishis. Newton's Law of Motion is a law of maya: "To every action there is always an equal and contrary reaction; the mutual actions of any two bodies are always equal and oppositely directed." Action and reaction are thus exactly equal. "To have a single force is impossible. There must be, and always is, a pair of forces equal and opposite." </i> |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227209 United States 01/26/2011 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094975DNA is a memory storage device similar to a hard drive correct? Thoth If we think of it in terms of a computer it would not be memory storage but more like CPU. It is the brain's brain. Hmm. So somewhere inside that 4Gb compiled binary of DNA sequences, is a finite state machine then? I wonder what the FSM diagram looks like... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227209 United States 01/26/2011 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t view theoretical physics as science. It is only theory. For me, science is if you do A+B then C happens. You will need a control to make sure that it is A+B that is causing C. Quoting: chaol 183770There's the rub! "Why" does C happen? Does C actually happen, or is it just A+B in a different form? Makes me wonder if anything actually happens. Maybe nothing happens and that is the secret (as an Aeon Flux episode put it). Wonderful! [link to www.mtv.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 765966 United States 01/26/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Newton's Law of Motion is a law of maya: "To every action there is always an equal and contrary reaction; the mutual actions of any two bodies are always equal and oppositely directed." Action and reaction are thus exactly equal. "To have a single force is impossible. There must be, and always is, a pair of forces equal and opposite." </i> Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227209two pairs.... black v red and white v yellow fources.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/26/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for a wonderful thread, you share a lot of information on a subject that we are not very familiar with and I admire your patience. I do have a couple of questions too. Firstly, you are stating that emotions, are "infections"? This does not make sense to me. Love is an emotion and everything blossoms from love. I also intend to say that emotions are indeed the intentions, or the force behind actions taken in our lives - so tell me how then, can emotions be infections? Changing your own perspective of life and manifesting desired events into your reality, is not a well known subject - however a few people already have the basic knowledge of it, some are also already applying this knowledge into their reality, purposely. I guess it does not hurt to be taught deeper into this subject, as it is both fascinating and useful. Who would not want to be able to control more of their percepted reality:) However, there are some things that you say, that I find a little unclear. When you speak of "travel" between these perspectives, you need to elaborate more on what really happens to our PHYSICAL bodies while we conduct such "travel". I think a few are concerned how it feels like to their bodies. Thank you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227209 United States 01/26/2011 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More questions. Let's say you've grouped three icons together, unordered. I'll use () to denote grouped and unordered. (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) Here's the question. Is it "legal" to collapse (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) to (+S+P, +IL +PL) to (+SL, +IL)? Or another way to put it (like with math) are those four statements equivalent to each other or are the unique? Is the assertion (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) = (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) = (+S+P, +IL +PL) = (+SL, +IL) when evaluated, is that true or false? |
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Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/26/2011 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <snips...> Quoting: ChaolMost of the pyramids of Egypt are formed from the natural limestone in and around Egypt. The Egyptians employ what we'd think of as high technology with sound and light, for example, but only smarts are necessary to make the pyramidial shapes. <snip> To clarify, some 'magic' is performed at the point of extraction for the (mostly) limestone. Then it is poured like concrete at the point of construction. Sound is used to liquefy the limestone and light is used for accuracy (similar to lasers). |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/27/2011 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hi chaol,i have some questions,do you know or are you from the same earth as john titor?does your earth have the same natural dissasters as this one and at the same time?does your earth have same man made ones or similar at the same time?you talk of 2013 does that mean you can perceive the future?are keyboards for your computers in ec x &english.is glp on your internet?regarding the genius can you give us any tried and tested symbols for love,money holiday in japan?if nothing exists until we perceive it how come we all see the same sun moon tv car ect?great thread hope you come back soon Quoting: pom 1236426::"hi chaol,i have some questions,do you know or are you from the same earth as john titor?" Hi. No. ::"does your earth have the same natural dissasters as this one and at the same time? does your earth have same man made ones or similar at the same time?" Good question. We don't have as many natural disasters as are had here. We don't clear forests at the same rate, but build more underground. There are no "man-made" disasters that I know about, either in my world or yours. ::"you talk of 2013 does that mean you can perceive the future?" More like likelihoods. It is present, not something that will happen. Same with past. ::"are keyboards for your computers in ec x &english." In my world, not everyone uses what I call Ec. But you can buy a type of computer that has a few 'keys' for Ec inputs. ::"is glp on your internet?" No. Our "websites" are completely different. Such network locations are far more dynamic and interactive. ::"regarding the genius can you give us any tried and tested symbols for love,money holiday in japan?" The symbols that you use should be your own to be as effective as possible. There would be "tried and tested" for you. ::"if nothing exists until we perceive it how come we all see the same sun moon tv car ect?great thread hope you come back soon" Are you sure we all see the same sun, etc? If you believe you perceive the same thing as your friend, who is perceiving your friend and your friend's experience? Last Edited by Chaol on 01/27/2011 07:11 AM |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/27/2011 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol, Quoting: Thoth 1204937Does ecsys have its basis in fractal geometry? Thoth Hi. The basis of Ecsys is perception. Moreso, Existence (Ecsys-tence) Fractal geometry has its basis in X (what I call Ecsys), as it illustrates the more mathematical properties of it. It's what happens when the Law of Energy Perspective is applied to the illusion of physicality. Such algorithms use the least amount of energy to perceive. Last Edited by Chaol on 01/27/2011 07:46 AM |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/27/2011 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094975DNA is a memory storage device similar to a hard drive correct? Thoth If we think of it in terms of a computer it would not be memory storage but more like CPU. It is the brain's brain. wouldn't the 'consciousness' or 'willful' existence be located in the area of the initiative ?? Everything that exists is conscious. If by 'willful' you are referring to 'free will' that is assuming that such will exists. For this I refer you to the Law of 5/2 (Energy Perspective), which holds that we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive. Choice or free will is what it seems to be. Supreme efficiency is what it actually is. |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/27/2011 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you familiar with the concept of Maya and Mara? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185079Unfortunately, no. What can you say about it/them? They're old Hindu concepts. Lemme see if I can pull up a text. [link to www.crystalclarity.com] <i>The ancient Vedic scriptures declare that the physical world operates under one fundamental law of maya, the principle of relativity and duality. God, the Sole Life, is an Absolute Unity; He cannot appear as the separate and diverse manifestations of a creation except under a false or unreal veil. That cosmic illusion is maya. Every great scientific discovery of modern times has served as a confirmation of this simple pronouncement of the rishis. Newton's Law of Motion is a law of maya: "To every action there is always an equal and contrary reaction; the mutual actions of any two bodies are always equal and oppositely directed." Action and reaction are thus exactly equal. "To have a single force is impossible. There must be, and always is, a pair of forces equal and opposite." </i> It sounds interesting but that's assuming that such forces exist. Per the Third Law of Motion, a force may appear to have an equally-opposing force but it is really the same thing perceived as two forces. Again, I refer to the Law of Energy Perspective: we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive. It is "perfectly opposite" because any other perception would require more energy than is necessary. |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/27/2011 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094975DNA is a memory storage device similar to a hard drive correct? Thoth If we think of it in terms of a computer it would not be memory storage but more like CPU. It is the brain's brain. Hmm. So somewhere inside that 4Gb compiled binary of DNA sequences, is a finite state machine then? I wonder what the FSM diagram looks like... Something like that, although entry and exit actions would be more trans-dimensional. The language itself may be transcribed into 4GB worth of characters but the amount of data there is far, far more than anything that can be imagined. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/27/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi,chaol thanks for answering my questions just wanted to say i have tried two of my own symbols and they worked!!i am both amazed and spooked by it!It took around 10 days ,so thank you for that .What is the best world like that you have seen and what is the worst world like that you have seen ? Will the magic mirror be easy to use ?Thanks again Quoting: pom 1236426Yeah, guess what, I tried it too. But in a different way: The fan, in my sons laptop, was broken. I picked up the laptop and placed my hand over it, and I could SEE inside my head what was wrong with it. The fan was actually not fastened properly and kept making noises. I tried to think of, what would be most logical for me, in order to try and fix it. "Surgery", since I am a nurse, "surgery" would be the most logic way of fixing it. So I performed "surgery" on the laptop, in my minds eye, fastening the fan, moving my hands as if I had a screwdriver (haha) I thought to myself - "I must be crazy" The laptop is fixed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227209 United States 01/27/2011 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Playing around with symbols today, mind telling me if I'm on the right track or if I'm veering off into the weeds? +IP PL L+S - "computer keyboard" +S+P - "money" And the last one is tongue-in-cheek or maybe a cynical observation: +S-S - "stock market" I'm not sure I'll ever be able to speak this language, but I certainly do find manipulating these little icons to be interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 708904 Canada 01/27/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not understand how consciousness cannot exist Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757374Hello! It is because we only know of one thing in relation to another. One is not aware of something directly. To take an easy example, if you look at your hand you are not seeing it directly. You are interpreting your retinal image's electrical signals as they existed in the past. This "past viewing" is more obvious when you are looking at the sun (as it was several minutes ago) but also extends to everything else you think you're perceiving of right now. There are only relationships, not consciousnesses. Thanks. if what you said was true then if you put someone in a sensory deprivation chamber they would stop "thinking" as there would be no sensory imput/no "relantionships". matter is energy not gravity. and your "elements" remind me too much of the kabalah to be a coincidence... getting enough pounds of flesh for your betrayal? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061550 United States 01/28/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094975DNA is a memory storage device similar to a hard drive correct? Thoth If we think of it in terms of a computer it would not be memory storage but more like CPU. It is the brain's brain. wouldn't the 'consciousness' or 'willful' existence be located in the area of the initiative ?? Everything that exists is conscious. If by 'willful' you are referring to 'free will' that is assuming that such will exists. For this I refer you to the Law of 5/2 (Energy Perspective), which holds that we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive. Choice or free will is what it seems to be. Supreme efficiency is what it actually is. supreme efficiency "ubber alaes"? I think not |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061550 United States 01/28/2011 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <snips...> Quoting: ChaolMost of the pyramids of Egypt are formed from the natural limestone in and around Egypt. The Egyptians employ what we'd think of as high technology with sound and light, for example, but only smarts are necessary to make the pyramidial shapes. <snip> To clarify, some 'magic' is performed at the point of extraction for the (mostly) limestone. Then it is poured like concrete at the point of construction. Sound is used to liquefy the limestone and light is used for accuracy (similar to lasers). sounds like a bit of backtracking to the unschooled ear |
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Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/28/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Chaol. Quoting: MallaThank you for a wonderful thread, you share a lot of information on a subject that we are not very familiar with and I admire your patience. I do have a couple of questions too. Firstly, you are stating that emotions, are "infections"? This does not make sense to me. Love is an emotion and everything blossoms from love. I also intend to say that emotions are indeed the intentions, or the force behind actions taken in our lives - so tell me how then, can emotions be infections? Changing your own perspective of life and manifesting desired events into your reality, is not a well known subject - however a few people already have the basic knowledge of it, some are also already applying this knowledge into their reality, purposely. I guess it does not hurt to be taught deeper into this subject, as it is both fascinating and useful. Who would not want to be able to control more of their percepted reality:) However, there are some things that you say, that I find a little unclear. When you speak of "travel" between these perspectives, you need to elaborate more on what really happens to our PHYSICAL bodies while we conduct such "travel". I think a few are concerned how it feels like to their bodies. Thank you Thanks. Regarding emotions-as-infections, I just mean to illustrate that emotions attempt to colonize a person by using the host's resources to reproduce. Emotions are not created from scratch. They also begin to integrate with the person as soon as the person becomes 'infected'. By "infections" I do not mean a negative or detrimental process occurring in a person's mind or body. However, we have no clear understanding of emotions (or consciousness) in this world. This, of course, does not validate my claims that emotions are infections. But the fact that there is no clear understanding of what emotions are should at least open the door to the possibility that the process of biochemical processes interacting with environmental influences is the same with the body (as a virus, in getting sick) as with the mind (emotions). Our world has discovered that there are also virii that promote health and physical well-being, not just disease. In this world, such parasites are ignored because they're of no harm. To respond to your query about how it physically feels to change perspectives, I think most of you know this already. e.g., how does it feel physically to fall asleep? Changing perspectives to your dream world is mostly a non-physical sensation of no particular significance. What I do is no different. There is really no physical feeling in that sense. |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/28/2011 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More questions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227209Let's say you've grouped three icons together, unordered. I'll use () to denote grouped and unordered. (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) Here's the question. Is it "legal" to collapse (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) to (+S+P, +IL +PL) to (+SL, +IL)? Or another way to put it (like with math) are those four statements equivalent to each other or are the unique? Is the assertion (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) = (+S+I, +I+P, +IL, +PL) = (+S+P, +IL +PL) = (+SL, +IL) when evaluated, is that true or false? Hi. There's much flexibility in this, as it really depends on you. If you want the four icons to equate to an other, then so be it. However, this would only be for your own purposes, and not for anyone else using it. (So your statement would be false.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1219225 Denmark 01/28/2011 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh okay, I think I understand what you mean about emotions being "infections" now. Negative emotions DO cause harm in your body and your psyche, if allowed to ramle along - so yes, in that case one should try to maintain only the good emotions and learn not to be carried away emotionally. And thank you for clarifying the physical feeling of changing perspective. I guess falling asleep in different ways, wont hurt. I do however have a concern regarding the ability to stay "grounded" when one is to shift perspective to other times and places though. I sometimes have a terrible preassure in the head, after coming back from visits (OBE's= going out of physical body) to other timeframes. Ty |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/28/2011 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be my last question for today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1227209So if +PL means "changing", would -PL mean "constant"? And if +P-L means "continuous", would +P+L mean "discreet"? -PL (low possibility, neutral logic) would mean constant if that's how you define it. Other than the few icons of the 66 icons that I have defined, no others have definitions until users in this world ascribed standard definitions to them. (thus the game/app, which see) It is still very usable without the standard definitions (because you would give them your own personal definitions). Personal definitions for the icon sets would be much more powerful than a standard set of definitions. Hope this helps some. |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/28/2011 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi,chaol thanks for answering my questions just wanted to say i have tried two of my own symbols and they worked!!i am both amazed and spooked by it!It took around 10 days ,so thank you for that .What is the best world like that you have seen and what is the worst world like that you have seen ? Will the magic mirror be easy to use ?Thanks again Quoting: pom 1236426Nice going :) Hopefully the next time you try it will be easier. What do you mean by "the best world"? I have actually only seen a few. You can easily get lost in them. Yes, the magic mirror will be very easy to use. It's quite simple, actually. |
Chaol User ID: 1180373 Canada 01/28/2011 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi,chaol thanks for answering my questions just wanted to say i have tried two of my own symbols and they worked!!i am both amazed and spooked by it!It took around 10 days ,so thank you for that .What is the best world like that you have seen and what is the worst world like that you have seen ? Will the magic mirror be easy to use ?Thanks again Quoting: pom 1236426Yeah, guess what, I tried it too. But in a different way: The fan, in my sons laptop, was broken. I picked up the laptop and placed my hand over it, and I could SEE inside my head what was wrong with it. The fan was actually not fastened properly and kept making noises. I tried to think of, what would be most logical for me, in order to try and fix it. "Surgery", since I am a nurse, "surgery" would be the most logic way of fixing it. So I performed "surgery" on the laptop, in my minds eye, fastening the fan, moving my hands as if I had a screwdriver (haha) I thought to myself - "I must be crazy" The laptop is fixed. Sounds like the next level of the Genius (i.e., the abstract representation). Try it again and again with different things. You'll get better at it. |