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SHUGENDO ASCETIC User ID: 648337 United States 10/28/2009 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck the military..lol hired killers/meatshields Quoting: Shaun1111money is an illusion.. where is real freedom? Fuck You Scum! You fuel the thing you hate with your taxes, just as much a slave as your fellow human beings you call "meat shields". You're just as much a prisoner of memetics as the rest of us. Now go in your happy place and work some light.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 804773 United States 10/28/2009 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me: Quoting: elbrianTotally squared away (NEVER used drugs- ever.) Left home at 18 joined Army Served 5 years Panama, El Salvador)as non-com BS University of California (I paid for it myself) 6 figures in bank, home will be paid for in 5 more years Working same job for 16 years NEVER MIssed a DAY not one. WTF would YOU do? Sounds to me like you're a fucking square, alright. Your son is enjoying his life, and you seem genuinely upset.. is it because you think he's a failure, or because you wish you could find happiness in such simple pleasures? You say you work all day every day, and have never missed a day... are you fucking proud of that? That's like a slave bragging to other slaves because he pulls the most grain- it's just retarded. Maybe you SHOULD have taken more days off, spent more time with your son perhaps, and maybe you wouldn't be such a miserable douchebag. You sound like a million other shitty fathers, who expect their children to grow up and buy into the big credit run that your generation created. Well let me tell you buddy, first hand (I'm 22), we hate you just as much as you hate us. You fucked this world up for us. If more people were like your son and could enjoy simple pleasures without feeling the need to get 40 year mortgages and 10-child families for a false sense of fulfillment, the world would be a better place. So fuck you buddy. Hug your son and be thankful that he hasn't shunned you for being a fucking dickhole, already. No you don't, you cocksucking little prick! Just wait until the shooting starts and you're come through our front door looking for drug money! THEN we'll see who's the "fucking dickhole", ya shit for brains fucking commies! |
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momtype User ID: 799982 United States 10/28/2009 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so difficult. I hear your frustration Dad. I would add that in my experience and reading on addiction, your son may have an issue in his life that causes him great personal shame. Deep in his core. Perhaps something long ago? Perhaps in the time frame he stopped swimming? A molestation by someone he trusted? Someone you aren't aware of? Perhaps a humiliation he has been unable to recover from psychologically? And so, he numbs himself so he doesn't feel that pain. He doesn't have ambition to find a path yet perhaps because inside he believes he doesn't deserve success? Perhaps search your soul and see if there's something you recall. If so, open your heart to him and see if he'd like to talk to someone. All I can offer you is that usually there is a painful reason for what you are seeing. And his pain is so much more than what you see. Judging him as a "loser" only re-inforces the opinion he may already have of himself. Alanon is a great idea as well. I hope you two can find some healing soon! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 804871 United States 10/28/2009 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is still time for your child, it is up to you, don't make the same tragic mistake i did, one that i will pay for the rest of my life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 791835ibogaine works for heroin addicts. [link to www.ibogatherapyhouse.net] don't give up. Thank you for the info. Just checked it out and found out it would cost around 20k for treatment and so said to the fella giving me the info "folks who dont have alot of money dont have this option because i dont have anywhere near that kind of money". What the heck can people do who aren't wealthy do besides let your children fall die? The longer i live, the more i hate this world we live in, i can't wait for those of us who are going to get out of this prison get out of here, it can't be too soon for me! Justice will prevail....this is not right |
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Sirius One User ID: 805077 United States 10/28/2009 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We confronted our son. Gave him a tough love contract he had to sign. He refused. He was arrested. Everything changed. Jail time in a Work Furlough situation smartened him up very fast. He had to expunge his felony on his own ( selling pot ) and work the courts on his own. We had to let him fall. When he got out his life was like a new beginning. Happened when he was 19. Now he is a 34 yr old wise old soul, ambitious, beautiful, creative and understanding of his life. You have to let them fall even if it means kicking them out of the house. Every soul has to follow their blueprint agenda and wise up. Can't fix it -- they have to. God Bless Last Edited by Blue Topaz on 10/28/2009 03:32 PM Knowledge protects. Ignorance endangers. |
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elbrian User ID: 783281 United States 10/28/2009 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 804773Totally squared away (NEVER used drugs- ever.) Left home at 18 joined Army Served 5 years Panama, El Salvador)as non-com BS University of California (I paid for it myself) 6 figures in bank, home will be paid for in 5 more years Working same job for 16 years NEVER MIssed a DAY not one. WTF would YOU do? Sounds to me like you're a fucking square, alright. Your son is enjoying his life, and you seem genuinely upset.. is it because you think he's a failure, or because you wish you could find happiness in such simple pleasures? You say you work all day every day, and have never missed a day... are you fucking proud of that? That's like a slave bragging to other slaves because he pulls the most grain- it's just retarded. Maybe you SHOULD have taken more days off, spent more time with your son perhaps, and maybe you wouldn't be such a miserable douchebag. You sound like a million other shitty fathers, who expect their children to grow up and buy into the big credit run that your generation created. Well let me tell you buddy, first hand (I'm 22), we hate you just as much as you hate us. You fucked this world up for us. If more people were like your son and could enjoy simple pleasures without feeling the need to get 40 year mortgages and 10-child families for a false sense of fulfillment, the world would be a better place. So fuck you buddy. Hug your son and be thankful that he hasn't shunned you for being a fucking dickhole, already. No you don't, you cocksucking little prick! Just wait until the shooting starts and you're come through our front door looking for drug money! THEN we'll see who's the "fucking dickhole", ya shit for brains fucking commies! Thanks for the incredibly insightful reply, Anonymous Coward. Maybe next time, in order to make an actual point, you can apply basic grammatical structure to your blathering / ranting. Until then, I'll just continue on with the assumption that you're a total fuckass and are not worthy of much more of my time. Oh- and fuck you, dickbag. |
Springsongs User ID: 779065 United States 10/28/2009 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off - stop calling him names. Your level of maturity must be greater than his if you are going to help him. Next, stop being angry with him. Your anger is your fear and it is best if you can get in touch with that and sort it out so that you don't bring your own "stuff" into the conversation with him. Then, when you talk to him, ask him what HE thinks, what HE feels, what does HE want, what does HE fear. Don't interrupt him. Let him talk. Don't interject your own opinions and ideas. Help guide his discussion by showing interest in what he is saying. Let him tell you HIS story. Is he afraid of the world and where it is going? Does he suffer from fear of the future? If at any point in time during the conversation you notice that he suddenly has changed his tone of voice, or something changes in his body language, etc., stop him for a moment and ask him what he was thinking about - what was the thought behind the thought. This will help him get to what the underlying subconscious is struggling with. (this has to do with a very new form of psycholtherapy called Method of Levels). If you cannot do this, then find a professional for him to talk to but be sure they are good! Not all counselors are fit to be counselors! Some are pretty messed up themselves. Best wishes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 751162 Netherlands 10/28/2009 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hard drugs is bad though. soft drugs ok. no school is ok too, just educate him yourselves. tell him in his words -> book read and write a essay about that subject or leave house!. his choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 757588 United States 10/28/2009 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread symbolizes the changing consciousness of the planet. We clearly can see what the older generation values: Hard work, domination, materialistic gain, very male and Piscean "make a name for yourself" mentality. However, the new generation knows its here to shake things up and eradicate these very principles that have led us to the brink of planetary destruction. We value unity, mastering our own creations, spiritual understanding (weed "zones" you in by the way), fun, and love. There is no reason life should not be like the latter. We apologize if working 40 hours a week and killing for cash and "honor" isn't our thing. |
Wraithwynd User ID: 717743 United States 10/28/2009 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why I propose that legal abortion should be possible until the fetus is age 18. ;-p Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 763552 United States 10/28/2009 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread symbolizes the changing consciousness of the planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757588We clearly can see what the older generation values: Hard work, domination, materialistic gain, very male and Piscean "make a name for yourself" mentality. However, the new generation knows its here to shake things up and eradicate these very principles that have led us to the brink of planetary destruction. We value unity, mastering our own creations, spiritual understanding (weed "zones" you in by the way), fun, and love. There is no reason life should not be like the latter. We apologize if working 40 hours a week and killing for cash and "honor" isn't our thing. young souls, vs mature souls [link to www.michaelteachings.com] [link to www.michaelteachings.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 10/28/2009 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My son: Quoting: 18E 80289120 years old Pizza delivery/pizza cook job, he makes 8/hr Everquest(crack) addiction Continues to smoke weed Refuses to join military Attends Community College has 1 (ONE) class (they were "all full"..) wrecked every car he's driven (including 2 of mine & my wife's) No savings (even though he pays no room and board) All he wants to do is BMX bike at the skate park and play everquest. Multiple run ins with 5.0 over riding BIKE in SKATE park.. also posession of 420 charges He WAS an Olympic class/candidate swimmer (multiple national reportable times, some USA records in 15-18 boys class) He started out high school with a 3.9 GPA as a freshman and had real possibility of scholarship in Ivy league or Academy school -threw that away of course. Me: Totally squared away (NEVER used drugs- ever.) Left home at 18 joined Army Served 5 years Panama, El Salvador)as non-com BS University of California (I paid for it myself) 6 figures in bank, home will be paid for in 5 more years Working same job for 16 years NEVER MIssed a DAY not one. WTF would YOU do? Take a bonghit already and realize your son is his own person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 802888 United States 10/28/2009 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like me to a tee... deliver pizza, halo is my addiction, but i actually skate at the skatepark.. well i did up until 22 or so. only now i'm 24. shit i would say don't waste anymore time. if i was in school at 20 then i could be done now. com colleges are a scam, i graduated with a pharm tech degree and still don't use it. don't show him your losing faith in him, my mom does that shit and it takes a toll on you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745210Yeah, there's nothing like a family that doesn't support you and loses hope. I feel you, man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 767798 United States 10/28/2009 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, people are recomending the obvious stuff, dontcha think we've tried? Example, I knew the Everquest thing was a problem, I think he's been playing that stupid game since he was 14, mebbe earlier. Hell, it's partly my fault, I gave him my old computer when I upgraded, I used to love playing flight sim games, I never understood the attraction of the role play games, there was no winner, no end, you never seem to "win" or lose. Yes, that's a foreign concept to me, it's a total waste of time, you say, "hypocrite, you play games to" yes that's true but I don't/didnt play games to distraction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802891I smashed his computer years ago (with a hammer) because he refused to stop playing the game, I decided it was enough. He got a friend to help him build another one. So I disconnected the ethernet going to his room, he'd sneak out and reconnect it. I CUT the wire going to his room, he bought new cable (50 bucks worth TWICE!) and ran it under the carpet thinking I wouldnt see it, I cut it again. I started disconnecting the modem, he calls AT&T and has them try and install DSL on my house (where we already have cable) I tell ATT to remove it, 6 months ago or so he gets Clearwire in his room, this everquest is a powerful addiction (I looked into it, they call it "Evercrack" for a reason) His drive crashed on his PC, so he goes in my office, takes a backup drive from a removable bay thing and FORMATS and reinstalls his OS on it! He takes my Craftsman wrenches and grinds them to fit on a bike part, I bought him lots of tools, but he loses them as soon as he needs something he just TAKES it, he wasnt raised like that. And he lies constantly. He lies constantly. If he lies constantly, it's because he feels he has to to survive in your household and you are an authoritarian. I'm not completely taking your son's side, but only to inform you that your power struggle will only push him further away. I understand how you feel, but you can't force him to be what you want. I assure you, nothing will change, until you do. Stop trying to control him! It's too late for that. If he wants more for himself out of life, he'll do this on his own. Let go! |
mr...bojangles User ID: 805000 Mexico 10/28/2009 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cause i`m 18 and i don`t know what i want- alice cooper. Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 745210 United States 10/28/2009 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763552 great links! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 745210 United States 10/28/2009 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He lies constantly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 767798If he lies constantly, it's because he feels he has to to survive in your household and you are an authoritarian. I'm not completely taking your son's side, but only to inform you that your power struggle will only push him further away. I understand how you feel, but you can't force him to be what you want. I assure you, nothing will change, until you do. Stop trying to control him! It's too late for that. If he wants more for himself out of life, he'll do this on his own. Let go! excellent advice... wish my mom would understand this. it's not lying to hurt anyone, just lying because he wants to avoid confrontation. if you can't handle the truth, why would he tell you? |
TorontonianGuy User ID: 803476 Canada 10/28/2009 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you eat is as important as anything ! Just over a year ago, I started reading everything on the internet regarding nutrition. I then started my "diet" switching from junk to highly nutritious food. I started feeling much better and more energy/thinking improved immensely! My daughter moved back for a year or so and picked up on my regimen. She has continued and now has a place of her own and is doing great. Now my son has returned and is now on the road to eating properly. He smokes dope, as do I, but more importantly realizes that "What you eat is as important as anything !" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 805123 Greece 10/28/2009 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are a liar, you have no son. End of the story :. My son: Quoting: 18E 80289120 years old Pizza delivery/pizza cook job, he makes 8/hr Everquest(crack) addiction Continues to smoke weed Refuses to join military Attends Community College has 1 (ONE) class (they were "all full"..) wrecked every car he's driven (including 2 of mine & my wife's) No savings (even though he pays no room and board) All he wants to do is BMX bike at the skate park and play everquest. Multiple run ins with 5.0 over riding BIKE in SKATE park.. also posession of 420 charges He WAS an Olympic class/candidate swimmer (multiple national reportable times, some USA records in 15-18 boys class) He started out high school with a 3.9 GPA as a freshman and had real possibility of scholarship in Ivy league or Academy school -threw that away of course. Me: Totally squared away (NEVER used drugs- ever.) Left home at 18 joined Army Served 5 years Panama, El Salvador)as non-com BS University of California (I paid for it myself) 6 figures in bank, home will be paid for in 5 more years Working same job for 16 years NEVER MIssed a DAY not one. WTF would YOU do? |