UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time". | |
Krystle|Ann User ID: 49703572 United States 12/15/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars? Quoting: Fema Prisoner Sorry to be off topic man but that is one awesome handle. Kudos. :cpl3: :rose:Power, Corruption and Lies.. Much more than just the title of an album. The year was 2081, and everyone was finally equal.KV :rose: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51585334 Portugal 12/15/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to n37i.img-up.net] ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. You don't really know how photography and video cameras work, do you? When you focus on a brighter subject you have to reduce exposition. As a consequence, less bright objects are not captured anymore because they are now below the sensitivity threshold of the camera sensor or film. The problem with your theory, smartass, is that no stars are seen in NASA Apollo images either, even when the cameras were focused in the infinity, and considering that the Moon has a ultra-thin atmosphere, the sky should be filled with stars. I am talking about EXPOSURE. Even cameras focused on infinity or whatever adjust themselves to levels of light. There's no need to go to space, you can see it for yourself here on Earth. But most probably I shouldn't even be arguing with you; you are a BELIEVER, so... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41363484 United States 12/15/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^^ this. Time for an update of 'footage from the moon' hopefully with A SKYFUL OF STARS etc. :) 1st official snapshot by the lander's camera. [link to n37i.img-up.net] They say the rover will take 5 pics or so, rotating 360° in order to provide a panoramic shot. I just can't wait. Will you look at that! Just like the rovers on Mars did, they are using this one to draw a dick on the moon. WTF???? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44534076 United States 12/15/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish. Quoting: Ford Prefect best question Video of 1969 through 1976 used vacuum tube based CCD pick ups with a very limited dynamic range. Modern solid state CCD's are able to handle the wide bandwidth required to show the moon's surface correctly in the bright unfiltered sunlight. Some of the Apollo program's film photographs show the colors closer to what we see here from the Chinese because film had a better ability to capture the wide contrast range. |
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Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember NASA saying they blackened the stars out of the moon shots as not to confuse the viewers. What's the excuse this time why there is no stars? Quoting: Fema Prisoner EPIC video, classic NASA bullshit. It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
C.S.D.J User ID: 50950720 United States 12/15/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? Dude sending his kids train to space and it descending back down to terra firma China's supposed landing video Nuff said...!! |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe User ID: 51600434 Chile 12/15/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish. Quoting: Ford Prefect Besides that interesting reflection that you pointed out, and has me baffled, I also thought of the redish-brownish color of the soil. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
just an old goat User ID: 15928536 United States 12/15/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the OP's first photo, I find it suspicious that the rover's tracks are so much darker than the undisturbed soil around them. It looks like the wheels dug up moist (therefore darker) soil, which of course wouldn't be possible in a place as bone-crushingly dry as the moon. Old Goat |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51585306 Germany 12/15/2013 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok. so in this picture, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985 [link to n37i.img-up.net] you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION. Now, in this picture [link to i26i.img-up.net] you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across. AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! the whole chassis of that vehicle is covered in gold-foil. I guess, that chassis is causing those reflections. Just try to teflect some sunlight with a mirror and see what a mirror does with sunlight reflected on soil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51592334 Chile 12/15/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I wanna know is why on NASA Apollo color images the Moon has a grey soil and in the Chinese pics the soil is brown/reddish. Quoting: Ford Prefect best question Nibiru is near and the moon color soil is caused by the almost no atmosphere to prevent the reddish of the soil. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok folks check this out: I set StarryNight to the Moon's surface at the approximate location of the landing site on Sinus Iridium (missed by 4° of longitude but I don't think it's a big deal), at the approximate time the rover was deployed (4:35 am ET, 7:35 am here), as you can see in the below images, then I set the compass to a position where the Sun should be matching the shadow of the rover (ignore the shadow of the Apollo astronaut in the background), in attempt to obtain ANY reference in the MOON SKY, or any celestial object that could be seen without disregarding the "exposure" explanation of the shills. [link to w32i.img-up.net] [link to m24i.img-up.net] It turns out that according to StarryNight VENUS should be seen from the Chinese lander even at the lunar daylight, as it was snapped by Apollo 14. [link to www.hq.nasa.gov] Just saying. It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone else here has StarryNight, Google Sky or any other program, and wants to check the lunar sky as seen from the Chinese landing site, the coordinates of Sinus Iridium are 44.1°, -31.5°. It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok. so in this picture, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50478985 [link to n37i.img-up.net] you are facing it head on with the white satellite facing you. and the right wing is pointed down AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING A REFLECTION. Now, in this picture [link to i26i.img-up.net] you are facing it from behind. and the right wing is straight across. AND YOU ARE STILL GETTING THE SAME REFLECTION!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! the whole chassis of that vehicle is covered in gold-foil. I guess, that chassis is causing those reflections. Just try to teflect some sunlight with a mirror and see what a mirror does with sunlight reflected on soil. Before you jump too quick to pull the sheeple card, since the whole chassis is wrapped in gold foil, shouldn't there be MORE parts reflecting in the soil as well??? It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/15/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is? :malefav: I love this place!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47176805 Canada 12/15/2013 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is? |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is? My point is: 1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel? 2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain. 3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well? It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
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green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/15/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is? My point is: 1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel? 2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain. 3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well? the very ground itself is a light source. shuning up from below. and then reflecting back. also in one pic it looks like the other panel is in shadow, so no light to reflect there. Last Edited by green_girl on 12/15/2013 05:37 PM :malefav: I love this place!! |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The official explanation to the lack of stars in space images is "daylight exposure of the camera", but the problem is that when you watch a timelapse video made from the ISS, you see plenty of stars even when the station is flying in the orbital daytime. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/15/2013 05:37 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10277451 United Kingdom 12/15/2013 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's not snapshots of a fucking machine we want, it is LIVE HD video of what's infront, to the sides and rear we need to see, not shots of the paddle picking up soil samples to be analysed nobody gives a damn about that we want to see the moon in full HD and LIVE |
Ford Prefect (OP) User ID: 51508342 Brazil 12/15/2013 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd speed up that part and made a gif so that you can see what I'm talking about: Quoting: Ford Prefect [link to i26i.img-up.net] Zoomed [link to x13i.img-up.net] Since when metallic parts reflect in soil like that?? i can use mirror like surfaces to cast reflections on anything, soil or not. not sure what your point is? My point is: 1. Where the source of the light that's causing that reflection coming from below the panel? 2. The reflection is not moving accordingly to the irregular terrain. 3. Why there are not other parts reflecting as well? the very ground itself is a light source. shuning up from below. and then reflecting back. also in one pic it looks like the other panel is in shadow, so no light to reflect there. Nope, the ground may reflect light but it's not a source and there's no fucking way of a dark soil reflecting the sunlight onto the bottom side of solar panel and then bounce it back to the ground. Plus 90% of the rover's surface is exposed to the sunlight, therefore should be way more than just a small reflection in the ground. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 12/15/2013 05:42 PM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |