What Catholics really believe!!!! It's all in the Nicene Crede!!!!

so G-d who brought the Israelites out of Egypt is a murderer?

yeah I don't expect an idolater to think otherwise lol.

Because of the word "apostolic" the Catholic church is not following the teachings of the aspostles who taught us to serve others and feed the poor.

Remember when Jesus criticized the Pharasees for talking the talk, but not walking the walk? Bingo!

The Catholic church and other organized religions, are not walking the walk as Jesus taught us.

So, in answer to your question, I think anyone would see the operative word to criticize here in the creed is apostolic. The Catholic church is showing the world with all their opulance, that it is anything but apostolic. If they sold all the gold on their altars, and got the gold glitz out of their mass clothing, and truly served people as the apostles taught us, then they would be true Christians according to the teachings of Our Lord Jesus.

It is beautifully written and sums up all Christian faith (except for the word Catholic).

Really? All I see are catholic charities and organizations taking care of the poor here-I'm still trying fiqured where your coming from?? St Jude hospitals, st Vincent de Paul, mercy homes, catholic charities... They seem like one of the few churches taking care of the less fortunate

All I meet praying at abortion clinics are catholics

So it's ok for Orel Roberts, the Mormons, baptists, Lutherans, episcopalians- to have big expensive churches?

99% of catholics have no fuckin clue what they believe.

Religion is only for idiots. Ask a catholic a question about what they believe and you will find yourself talking to a 5-year-old.

What denomination in your opinion closely follows your thoughts on this?

Same for Protestants?

This is where the discussion always ends-most people refuse to tell us the perfect denomination-almost like their embarrassed??

I can totally prove you wrong using nothing but the bible.

but its almost feast of tabernacles day, you know a holyday from the Torah, its also a sabbatical day, which means no internet.

so expect me to spoil your little catholic dreams tomorrow.

good day.

It is somehow to bash Catholics.. But then they tell us their denomination why is that? Is it because they know there is enough wrong with their own denomination?

Wrong.

Only the Churches that were part of the Roman emipre.



Ethiopians never were any part of this.

I am not Catholic, but I believe this creed also. These are basic Christian tenets, not exclusive to the Catholic church.

I don't agree with the Catholic church, or any other denomination either for that matter, on many topics. But there are a lot of good Christian people from almost all denominations.

Maybe your time would be better spent searching your own soul and developing some kind of relationship with your Creator. A good starting point would be the Gospel of John.

This trinity doctrine existed before the Roman Catholic church took over around 313-400 A.d.

No denomination of organized religion. Just a Christian faith.. And a believer in the teachings of The Lord.

Yes, the Catholic Church as all other organized Christian religions have charities that do well. I've been to many of their gala events for fundraising. Where am I going with this? Do I really need to feel I am doing good for the poor by dressing in my fanciest dress to attend the $500 a plate dinner for charity? It just doesn't set right in my soul. Not criticizing Catholicism, I'm calling out all Christian organizations to hold up a mirror to their faces and ask themselves are we truly living and running our entities according to the teachings of a Christian faith? As in any entity, humans are humans and enjoy power and some are greedy. Let us all as Christians hold ourselves accountable as The Lord would want us to. Accordingly, all we do should be in thanksgiving that all power and honor should be going to Our Lord Jesus.... Not to be bowing to a pope or a fervent Christian pastor. I think I'm on the same page you are, and I'm just objecting to how all organized religions can lose that narrow path and easily be hypocritical in the eyes of Our Lord. We need to have systems in place that really get the money to the poor and starving people. Who was the "perfect" example in my eyes?
Mother Theresa.

Nor no I. But the word "catholic" here does not mean any one earthly institution. It means universal and it refers to the body of true believers as the body of Christ. There are true Christians in almost every denomination, including Catholic and protestant denominations.

But even Mother Theresaknew she needed to be part of a church-that outside of attending a church she would struggle... She realized she needed the church through the spirit to guide and direct her

I have never a high fluting affairs like you but I know this- the Catholic Churches in my area open up their doors to the homeless

What most people don't understand is that everyone who dies is "resurrected" because their soul leaves their body at death and goes back to the dimension it came from. This was the reason for Jesus dying on the cross and being "resurrected" 3 days later. His spirit was seen by Mary and a couple of others. They were told not to touch him because he was pure energy and not solid like in human form. Christianity did not want people to know this because what would they need the church for? Think about it.

Jesus did not die for our sins. We are responsible for our sins and no one, not even Jesus, can do anything about it. It is all up to us. Christianity also didn't want people to be responsible for their actions, otherwise they could not contribute to the collection plate. Think about it.

All religion is man-made in order to control the masses. It has very little to do with God or Jesus in a true manner. It has people believing in the religious fairy tales from birth onward, which is why most people never question them but perpetuate the stories to their own children. Mass hypnosis at its finest.

James 1:27 (KJV)

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Don't ignore this statement:

"Begotten, not made..."

This is the cornerstone of the Catholic religion.


As for the Nicene Creed in general, it seems to be so benign that I do not understand the contentious tone of the post title?

Catholicism is such a vanilla religion, perhaps intentionally crafted to be universally accepted.

No, it most definitely did not. It was officially adopted at the First council of Constantinople in 381 AD, and it still took several centuries to fully develop the doctrines.

No, not that I'm aware of.

Proud Roman Catholic here. I pray one day you all see the folly of your hatred. May God forgive you. Go in peace.

This thread is for simple minds who just want bash Catholicism without ever understanding their creed!

It was a view held by the Church fathers before the First Council of Constantinople.

It was only had to be adopted as an offical statement as response to the heresy known was Arianism, which is same heresy you Unitarians adopted in the 1500's.

Also the The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea of 325 found Arianism to be heresy.

Unitarianism is pretty much just a rehashing of the same heresy that's was rejected by even pre-RCC Church fathers as a heresy.

You lost at the council of Nicene. Arianism was again declared a heresy at the First Council of Constantinople of 381.

Give it up.

Nope. Arianism was debated at Nicea 56 years earlier not Constantinople, and even Nicea didn't present a developed trinity. And this is almost four centuries after Jesus. Fact is the holy spirit wasn't even promoted to person- and Godhood at Nicea. And even after Nicea several bishops retracted the votes they felt they were pressured into. Constantine himself also converted back to Arianism and Arianism remained the dominant faith in East Rome. The trinity was invented between the 4th and 7th century after Jesus' earthly ministry. A man-made lie.

Not that I care about any of this; I don't do man-made doctrines invented by apostate bishopes. According to the Bible, Jesus, God Himself, the prophets of the Most High God, there is one Most High God, YHWH alone. Jesus called Him Father. According to your own words, Jesus was a heretic. That says all I need to know about your faith.

"Unitarianism" is the faith of Noah, Moses, Abraham and Jesus. What would I care about the man-made doctrines of the harlot bishopry?