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Sandy Hook : Urban Legend Crowd Source

 
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Since we are assessing the event initiated and run through Newtown then it makes sense that all the larger groups arrive later.

Now that I think about it...the larger agencies don't really need to be in the know either.

Heck you can request them to come to provide backup to whatever you tell them is happening.

I still think you run the operation through a school that is essentially condemned but you transfer a few local students/grades to the location for a temporary reason.

The obviously secluded area the school is in was perfect to keep everyone out of site of anything.

There still has to be media that get's propaganda out and I think that is where the AP comes in. I think there would have been one or two reporters that helped the narrative.

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This thread is banging, shaking the foundations in concise manner. Not gonna jinx it beyond that.

How about weaving in some ideas regarding the 2 "hunters" or whomever they apprehended in camouflage in the woods? That's what tripped me out was how they never mentioned them again. It stick out to me because I left for work right as that development occured, but by time I got to work it was a non issue I couldn't believe it.
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As a seperate inquiry, removing emotions and trying to match the general scientific postulations approach this thread has taken...

Why couldn't they "arrange" for some pizza-friendly or perhaps pizza providing parents to actually allow the literal sacrifice of a child.

Having a single lamb to silence and confuse and convince could make the act of pulling the whole thing off much much easier. Significantly fewer conspirators would need to be recruited...

Those not in on it who see things not adding up, along with dead bodies... would get the picture real quick.

Also could eclaim dead principal quoted in newspaper next day. Perhaps she got offed to be made an example of, deserving or otherwise.
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As a seperate inquiry, removing emotions and trying to match the general scientific postulations approach this thread has taken...

Why couldn't they "arrange" for some pizza-friendly or perhaps pizza providing parents to actually allow the literal sacrifice of a child.

Having a single lamb to silence and confuse and convince could make the act of pulling the whole thing off much much easier. Significantly fewer conspirators would need to be recruited...

Those not in on it who see things not adding up, along with dead bodies... would get the picture real quick.

Also could eclaim dead principal quoted in newspaper next day. Perhaps she got offed to be made an example of, deserving or otherwise.
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This thread is banging, shaking the foundations in concise manner.
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Ooh I hit a shill button!! Maybe two??!!!
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This thread is banging, shaking the foundations in concise manner. Not gonna jinx it beyond that.

How about weaving in some ideas regarding the 2 "hunters" or whomever they apprehended in camouflage in the woods? That's what tripped me out was how they never mentioned them again. It stick out to me because I left for work right as that development occured, but by time I got to work it was a non issue I couldn't believe it.
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I think shills needed to disengage any attention from this so near top of page.

The old bait and switch turned on a dime. Not intended with premeditation... just situational awareness..... too many variables leaves vulnerability... wait what am I talking about...
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Since we are assessing the event initiated and run through Newtown then it makes sense that all the larger groups arrive later.

Now that I think about it...the larger agencies don't really need to be in the know either.

Heck you can request them to come to provide backup to whatever you tell them is happening.

I still think you run the operation through a school that is essentially condemned but you transfer a few local students/grades to the location for a temporary reason.

The obviously secluded area the school is in was perfect to keep everyone out of site of anything.

There still has to be media that get's propaganda out and I think that is where the AP comes in. I think there would have been one or two reporters that helped the narrative.
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I think this was planned from the fed level to include all the sgencies but only a select few in each one. That keeps it more authentic and enables those select few to direct activity.
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This thread is banging, shaking the foundations in concise manner. Not gonna jinx it beyond that.

How about weaving in some ideas regarding the 2 "hunters" or whomever they apprehended in camouflage in the woods? That's what tripped me out was how they never mentioned them again. It stick out to me because I left for work right as that development occured, but by time I got to work it was a non issue I couldn't believe it.
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I think shills needed to disengage any attention from this so near top of page.

The old bait and switch turned on a dime. Not intended with premeditation... just situational awareness..... too many variables leaves vulnerability... wait what am I talking about...
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Shills? Meh...it's a conspiracy site. We get together and think of all the ways people are conspiring things. I hardly doubt a little website with self admitted goofballs ( like myself ) is going to create any issue for the conspirators. So a couple things that relate to your last couple of posts.

1st. In this thread we are pontificating on how they would pull off a drill embellished with an Urban Legend. With this reasoning I am inclined to promote, with this line of thinking, that nobody died. which I guess is a really good thing right?

The men in the woods info seems to me no different than was it Ryan or Adam or mother was teacher at the school. Just drops of misdirection to keep a perception of chaos.

Please don't take this as disrespect just how I am approaching this. I really do appreciate all input to see where we end up. The information about how CT and counties and towns are set up really opened up this possibility.

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A lot of strange characters make up the cast.

Care to name a few?

Small Pants

The Lanzas

Gene Rosen

Wayne Carver

Robbie

And the list goes on....
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Bump to keep this rolling. I am gonna feel guilty if this thread just drifts off to sleep.

Somebody tag in!!!
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Ok cool I spoke too soon.

OP I am with you all the way. 100% I take zero offense and damn right it'd be good thing if nobody actually died.
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I wonder who the casting agent was.
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Also, regarding the hunters...part of me wants to believe they were absolutely not involved and their unintentional infiltration into the arena elicited a chaotic response to eliminate any threat to integrity of the operation...that real action pounced on by the media gbut the pros in charge are pros because they are trained to expect the unexpected. That's what this thread is all about. Planned fluidity and flexibility to incorporate such developments as they are executed.

But could be nothing... that's the point either way it doesn't weaken this ongoing analysis
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I will say that Zeph did great work in helping identify how they would pull this off.

Her work on the 911 calls and finding all the problems with the story line and " official script/report" helped to show that is was just a staged event.

It is interesting how Gene Rosen is cast. I suppose his proximity to the action made sense to include him.

But what if he is just an innocent dude just trying to capitalize on the event. Meaning he saw something going on...wanted to be a local that is " in the know " and created a story for himself that he could get a little fame?

So when he finds out about the story at the firehouse he decides that he is going to say he saw something too! He wants to be on camera! He wants his 15 minutes! Who is going question a little story about kids that he helped....but has no proof other than a pile of stuffed animals.

Heh. Gosh that would be so funny...cause now the event planners have to somehow write Gene into the event.

Gotta admit that could happen.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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A lot of strange characters make up the cast.

Care to name a few?

Small Pants

The Lanzas

Gene Rosen

Wayne Carver

Robbie

And the list goes on....
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Here is something to consider. Did one of these characters insert himself where he wasn't welcome? In the final report (sorry I don't have the reference id) There is a statement from a nurse at a hospital in NY who called local LE to report that a certain individual he had seen on TV was a regular patient at his hospital. The hospital is a small in-patient facility for senior citizen alzheimers patients. According to this nurse, the person he saw on TV was a regular visitor. Based on the nurses statement LE disqualified this person as a witness. Can you guess who this might be???
So what if this witness is crazy like a fox and is trying to indicate publicaly that he knows the whole thing is a farce. This would explain his very very over the top strange behavior... TPTB then fabricated the statement from this nurse to make the witness appear mentally unstable and therefore if he did come up with some evidence they could discredit him. Remember his close proximity to the school, did he see something?? I am just trying to explain some of the anomalies and he is a very big one...
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Where can I get a copy of the Presidents itinerary starting at 7 am Dec 14 2012.

I strongly believe he was a participant in the drill.
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One thing for certain.

When you take the position Sandy Hook was a drill embellished with an Urban Legend...it just clarifies so many things.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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I will say that Zeph did great work in helping identify how they would pull this off.

Her work on the 911 calls and finding all the problems with the story line and " official script/report" helped to show that is was just a staged event.

It is interesting how Gene Rosen is cast. I suppose his proximity to the action made sense to include him.

But what if he is just an innocent dude just trying to capitalize on the event. Meaning he saw something going on...wanted to be a local that is " in the know " and created a story for himself that he could get a little fame?

So when he finds out about the story at the firehouse he decides that he is going to say he saw something too! He wants to be on camera! He wants his 15 minutes! Who is going question a little story about kids that he helped....but has no proof other than a pile of stuffed animals.

Heh. Gosh that would be so funny...cause now the event planners have to somehow write Gene into the event.

Gotta admit that could happen.
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Lol, I made my post before I read yours...We are on the same page!
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I will say that Zeph did great work in helping identify how they would pull this off.

Her work on the 911 calls and finding all the problems with the story line and " official script/report" helped to show that is was just a staged event.

It is interesting how Gene Rosen is cast. I suppose his proximity to the action made sense to include him.

But what if he is just an innocent dude just trying to capitalize on the event. Meaning he saw something going on...wanted to be a local that is " in the know " and created a story for himself that he could get a little fame?

So when he finds out about the story at the firehouse he decides that he is going to say he saw something too! He wants to be on camera! He wants his 15 minutes! Who is going question a little story about kids that he helped....but has no proof other than a pile of stuffed animals.

Heh. Gosh that would be so funny...cause now the event planners have to somehow write Gene into the event.

Gotta admit that could happen.
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Lol, I made my post before I read yours...We are on the same page!
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Heh!

Everything is becoming pretty obvious.
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Sandy Hook had more the smell of a military operation than a school shooting. Swat guys everywhere snipers, its a wonder they didn't bring in tanks etc.
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One helicopter to keep out other aircraft (that's a no fly zone)
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This was a top level event with top level executives involved. I have no doubts about that. It has "CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET" stamped all over it.
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One helicopter to keep out other aircraft (that's a no fly zone)
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I don't think that actually happened. I did not see anything that showed any choppers that day. I think Vance said that to provide cover for lack of arial presence.
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One helicopter to keep out other aircraft (that's a no fly zone)
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I don't think that actually happened. I did not see anything that showed any choppers that day. I think Vance said that to provide cover for lack of arial presence.
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Breaking: Chopper Identified

Thread: BREAKING!!! - The "SANDY HOOK CHOPPER" identity "DISCOVERED"
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One thing for certain.

When you take the position Sandy Hook was a drill embellished with an Urban Legend...it just clarifies so many things.
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And the fact that coincidentally.... yes, by chance, offbeat SH threads about weird twists to an otherwise intact "real event" premise keep bumping up when this thread starts rolling.... just whistling through the graveyard that last had a burial years ago....

Hide it in plain sight. Obfuscate truth without truly oppressive censorship.
In all honesty, it's fair enough. The onus is on us to make the truth both compelling and self evident to be differentiable from a fleet of red herrings.

BRAVO OP. You've given birth to a mighty solid foundation, cannot be derailed with emotion or simple attacks demanding motivation or specifics beyond that which can be firmly supported.

From here, it can be built to be even stronger following same logical steps, and also used as a springboard for more piercing speculative hypotheses in the appropriate contexts.
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One helicopter to keep out other aircraft (that's a no fly zone)
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I don't think that actually happened. I did not see anything that showed any choppers that day. I think Vance said that to provide cover for lack of arial presence.
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Breaking: Chopper Identified

Thread: BREAKING!!! - The "SANDY HOOK CHOPPER" identity "DISCOVERED"
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I appreciate and remember this thread. I still don't think we have any tangible evidence it was there.

My point is....if news 3 got footage that means they were in the airspace that Chopper One was suppose to keep clear....get that I mean?


Interesting story by the way.

[link to www.wfsb.com]
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One helicopter to keep out other aircraft (that's a no fly zone)
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I don't think that actually happened. I did not see anything that showed any choppers that day. I think Vance said that to provide cover for lack of arial presence.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


Breaking: Chopper Identified

Thread: BREAKING!!! - The "SANDY HOOK CHOPPER" identity "DISCOVERED"
 Quoting: NO SECRETS 59186305


I appreciate and remember this thread. I still don't think we have any tangible evidence it was there.

My point is....if news 3 got footage that means they were in the airspace that Chopper One was suppose to keep clear....get that I mean?


Interesting story by the way.

[link to www.wfsb.com]
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Then what do you believe the "helicopter footage" that we are seeing was?
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