20 gas explosions in Massachusetts just now!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76936076 United States 09/14/2018 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. |
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Terrebonne User ID: 76936059 United States 09/14/2018 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's calculated in PSI. The lowest pressure mains are about 7 PSI and a regulator aren't needed is correct. High pressures lines run bout 100 PSI. I don't see how anyone can make that kind a mistake. After installing the line the proper procedure is to check the system for possible leaks. This doesn't explains why the system didn't automatic shut down due to pressure deferences or a sudden drop in pressure to to a major leak. Quoting: Terrebonne . This why I call bullshit. There is much more to this story that we currently have. Very much agree. . Totally impossible . Low and High pressure gas systems are completely incompatible. The fittings would NEVER hook up to 1 another . A low pressure system will use a much larger piping than a higher pressure piping. A lot of it stems from how much pressure the type fittings and piping that can hold without leaking. A 30 PSI line will hold a 100 PSI. Very high pressure lines use a totally different piping and fittings system. . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
ElleMira User ID: 76494359 United States 09/14/2018 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm watching NECN right now. Columbia gas sent out a representative to North Andover to answer questions and they didn't answer any questions. When questioned by a reporter why he was running to his car and not answering any questions, the Colombia gas rep said he was leaving with the intention of logging the questions and getting back to them. Residents of the community are very frustrated. |
ElleMira User ID: 76494359 United States 09/14/2018 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm watching NECN right now. Columbia gas sent out a representative to North Andover to answer questions and they didn't answer any questions. When questioned by a reporter why he was running to his car and not answering any questions, the Colombia gas rep said he was leaving with the intention of logging the questions and getting back to them. Residents of the community are very frustrated. Quoting: ElleMira Last Edited by ElleMira on 09/14/2018 12:41 PM |
Terrebonne User ID: 76936059 United States 09/14/2018 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most control valves are designed so that the valve has to open against the incoming pressure. Quoting: Lost Pottawatomie In this way the pressure helps the valve to stay well sealed and higher pressure should only keep it more tightly on the seat. The magnetic coil that opens the valve is of limited strength and likely couldn't open against 100 psi. But if it were already open, the main burner would make an inferno. Pilot lights would blaze up for sure. Pressure relief valves ARE different and are designed to blow open from exceeding a pressure rating. Why the distribution system does not seem to include them is a mystery. Regulators at the meter has a PRV, but because the system was low pressure there was no need for a regulators. So there was no fail safe for more gas interring the homes. . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video is excellent if you need to catch up. Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 09/14/2018 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. well, all of our Engineers are a bunch of dimwits if they can't give us better fail safes than this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73425440 United States 09/14/2018 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. well, all of our Engineers are a bunch bunch of dimwits if they can't give us better fail safes than this. I don’t think it’s going to be faulted on the homeowners/business owners in regards to what was reported yesterday. The gas company is not answering questions because they are going to be legally responsible I would imagine for all of the damage. I’ve heard of this sort of thing occurring in neighborhoods but not a large sector like yesterday. I’m guessing that some sort of pressure reduction station failed or was not set correctly causing the overpressurization. You as a homeowner could keep everything updated as far as safely controls but if your next door neighbor doesn’t, your house could still be at risk. |
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Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This gas situation needs more attention. State police said 70 fires, explosions and reports of gas odors were confirmed to be connected with the issue. Andover Town Manager Andrew Flanagan advised residents that “there is no clear timeline” on returning to their homes. National Grid turned off power to some customers in Lawrence, North Andover and Andover. The smell of natural gas was overwhelming and likely strong enough to make people sick. Columbia Gas released its first statement on its website about five hours after the explosions and fires broke out. 'It Looked Like Armageddon': Deadly Gas Blasts Rock 3 Mass. Towns [link to www.necn.com (secure)] Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |
AmericanSpyglass User ID: 73450438 United States 09/14/2018 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gas rupture was related to some sort of construction in Lawrence, and the rumor is a disgruntled worker sabotaged something, causing it all to blow to hell, and it had to do with the high pressure gas lines like a poster mentioned here last night. Again, I can not verify this but it’s what I heard. |
beeches User ID: 74276477 United States 09/14/2018 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. if so it would happen everywhere all the time. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 44461314 United States 09/14/2018 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. well, all of our Engineers are a bunch of dimwits if they can't give us better fail safes than this. Bullshit. Dealing with gas utility lines is NOT in the average home/business owners' skills set...Many know how to turn gas off at the street with a wrench (some do not)but unless they can smell gas leaks, they have no reason to do that. Also the end users of the gas can do absolutely nothing about any crumbling infrastructure, etc. Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 09/14/2018 03:12 PM "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the latest. I have no way to verify this. I heard this on WRKO Radio from callers that called in. Sources include the State Police and Rumors. Quoting: AmericanSpyglass The gas rupture was related to some sort of construction in Lawrence, and the rumor is a disgruntled worker sabotaged something, causing it all to blow to hell, and it had to do with the high pressure gas lines like a poster mentioned here last night. Again, I can not verify this but it’s what I heard. Could be true, maybe not. There will be loads of rumors and gossip. Everyone has a theory. I wonder how this could have happened in 3 different towns at the same time. That's what I want to know. No one in the news addresses this. Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |
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Eilonwy User ID: 76884224 United States 09/14/2018 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www2.ljworld.com] I laughed when I clicked on this recent article. Was Lawrence ... JINXED...? "Lawrence is one of the least stressed cities in America..." UPDATE: this is about a different Lawrence... sorry UPDATE: to make up for my mistake, here is another interesting link: (Disaster in Lawrence, The Fall of the Pemberton Mill) [link to www.arcadiapublishing.com (secure)] I wonder if, like the mill disaster, there will be safety changes to the way things are done in the US... Last Edited by Eilonwy on 09/14/2018 03:20 PM “A grower of turnips or shaper of clay, a commot Farmer or a king--every man is a hero if he strives more for others than for himself alone.” Lloyd Alexander, The Castle of Llyr |
Madmacs User ID: 1260419 United States 09/14/2018 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TlvmmCpoft I think some of the houses I've been in have had gas heating independent of other uses. Mind you, not in New England. They had an obsession with giant tanks of oil in the basement last time I was there - weirdos. I'm in Massachusetts, but the other end of the state. My home is heated with gas and we use it for the water heater and stove. Electric heat is just too expensive. What really bothers me about this is that these leaks happened in 3 different towns at the same time. Its all about Lawrence ...me thinks... What do they want in Lawrence? ... a way in ... |
Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happening now... High gas reading reported in Lawrence neighborhood Emergency crews were entering a residence at about 1:50 p.m. Friday, and were beginning to push people back from the scene. [link to www.eagletribune.com] Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |
Coppercoal User ID: 40254849 United States 09/14/2018 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the latest. I have no way to verify this. I heard this on WRKO Radio from callers that called in. Sources include the State Police and Rumors. Quoting: AmericanSpyglass The gas rupture was related to some sort of construction in Lawrence, and the rumor is a disgruntled worker sabotaged something, causing it all to blow to hell, and it had to do with the high pressure gas lines like a poster mentioned here last night. Again, I can not verify this but it’s what I heard. If it were a MAGA hat type it would be plastered all over the news... Must be a people type the media wants to protect. The big shots tried to hold it back; Fools tried to wish it away The hopeful depend on a world without end; Whatever the hopeless may say |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76318763 United States 09/14/2018 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My guess is that somebody at the gas company messed up by overpressurizing the mains for that sector/group of towns and all of the weak points/systems with no or disrepaired fail safes were the ones that lit up. Quoting: Plan Z crumbling infrastructure, cascading consequences. Yes but I think it’s more of a homeowner/ business owner upkeep sort of thing and less of the gas companies infrastructure. if so it would happen everywhere all the time. Specifically I was referring to the overpressurizaition event yesterday. |
Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the latest. I have no way to verify this. I heard this on WRKO Radio from callers that called in. Sources include the State Police and Rumors. Quoting: AmericanSpyglass The gas rupture was related to some sort of construction in Lawrence, and the rumor is a disgruntled worker sabotaged something, causing it all to blow to hell, and it had to do with the high pressure gas lines like a poster mentioned here last night. Again, I can not verify this but it’s what I heard. If it were a MAGA hat type it would be plastered all over the news... Must be a people type the media wants to protect. This is Massachusetts. You can count on one hand the MAGA people. No one dare wear the hat. Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |
LunaFlora User ID: 76861900 Canada 09/14/2018 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happening now... Quoting: Petpeeve High gas reading reported in Lawrence neighborhood Emergency crews were entering a residence at about 1:50 p.m. Friday, and were beginning to push people back from the scene. [link to www.eagletribune.com] LunaFlora |
sum_{n} \frac{1}{n^s} User ID: 48112806 United States 09/14/2018 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Happening now... Quoting: Petpeeve High gas reading reported in Lawrence neighborhood Emergency crews were entering a residence at about 1:50 p.m. Friday, and were beginning to push people back from the scene. [link to www.eagletribune.com] Why can't they just cut the flow? Where is Columbia? Why haven't they answered any questions? Why isn't this in the MSM? Why isn't this thread pinned? Is the FBI still investigating? What's the official number on dead and injured? Could this affect other areas? So many question so little coverage |
Petpeeve User ID: 12200702 United States 09/14/2018 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gov. Baker Declares State Of Emergency After Gas Explosions Rock 3 Mass. Communities One person, an 18-year-old from Lawrence, died and more than 20 others were injured in the blasts and blazes. Massachusetts State Police said Thursday it had confirmed 70 incidents of fires, explosions or gas odor investigations. [link to www.wbur.org] Also from the story: Columbia Gas had an average of 2.16 leaks last year per every 10 miles of pipe Each click feeds a shelter animal [link to theanimalrescuesite.greatergood.com (secure)] |