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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77248197 United States 02/09/2019 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
The Gullible Skeptic User ID: 8789645 United States 02/09/2019 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup free market is the only way to operate so that the operation stays healthy, be it business or staff. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
The Gullible Skeptic User ID: 8789645 United States 02/09/2019 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. Maybe God said fuck it to his children INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77248197 United States 02/09/2019 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. yah, when this shit hits you at home, it gets real. Real ugly. I guess that's one reason that I learned early on to have 'arms lengths' relationships with everyone except my wife/children. The outside world has gone to hell...for the most part anyways. I only found out about the 'stolen valor' and statutory rape thing, 2 weeks ago and suddenly my decades long hatred of him..came into perfect focus. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77248197 United States 02/09/2019 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. Maybe God said fuck it to his children It does feel like that. I cry about it a lot. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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Zorro A. Knievel Esq. User ID: 76552056 United States 02/09/2019 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't owe Gossamer the flying carpet jockey jack shit. COVID IS NOT FUCKING REAL, WW3 AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN. TURN OFF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TV. [link to youtube.com (secure)] [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
ChiChiChis User ID: 77359162 United States 02/09/2019 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game. that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life |
The Gullible Skeptic User ID: 8789645 United States 02/09/2019 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. Maybe God said fuck it to his children It does feel like that. I cry about it a lot. I have said for a long time, in regards to trials and tribulations, you have two choices. Choose to over come it and for it to make you stronger or allow it to pull you deeper into the void. I wish you luck and hope the best for you and your family. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
The Gullible Skeptic User ID: 8789645 United States 02/09/2019 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing Quoting: ChiChiChis your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game. that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life That's bullshit. I will agree the current money is a shadow of what it once was but true money, or wealth, is the best way to show that you have brought value into this world by others acknowledging you for your work by exchanging money for it. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77248197 United States 02/09/2019 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. Quoting: Seer777 She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. Maybe God said fuck it to his children It does feel like that. I cry about it a lot. I have said for a long time, in regards to trials and tribulations, you have two choices. Choose to over come it and for it to make you stronger or allow it to pull you deeper into the void. I wish you luck and hope the best for you and your family. No one in the world deserves this..less than her. And it challenges my faith..and my anger..every day. Thank you. I hope to. My only wish..is for a cure. I wish nor want, for anything else more.. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Finding Nemo DEAD User ID: 77041876 United States 02/09/2019 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing Quoting: ChiChiChis your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game. that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life I presume someone else pays for your upkeep. I'm not paranoid...am I? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62685097 United States 02/09/2019 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No you don't. Loyalty is earned, not bought. The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself. I retired at 37. Went back to work at 43 out of boredom. How are you doing? I could probably retire you too. I hear and see young guys fretting all the time. If only they realize there boss NEEDS them. retired for you = laid off sat around had to go back to work @43 |
ChiChiChis User ID: 77359162 United States 02/09/2019 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing Quoting: ChiChiChis your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game. that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life That's bullshit. I will agree the current money is a shadow of what it once was but true money, or wealth, is the best way to show that you have brought value into this world by others acknowledging you for your work by exchanging money for it. when the FEd issues 20 trillion in QE, when the pentagon prints up and spend 20 trillion black budget money, ... who do you think is getting that money? the catholic church? or a bunch of baby raping, mass murdering,drug dealing, lying, scum of the earth shitbag devil worshippers? so after it goes to them, who is next in line to get it?? the next most evil people. and so on, and so on, until it gets...TO YOU. you are the LAST ONE TO GET IT, and the MOST SHIT ON PERSON ON EARTH. because you are the LEAST EVIL humans. |
nimmerfall User ID: 72716118 United States 02/09/2019 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. I'm sorry to hear it. I had an uncle with Parkinsons... he trembled for as long as I knew him. He gave it a good run, lived a good life, but I know it had to be frustrating at times. Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76941105 United States 02/09/2019 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out. Quoting: Xeven This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands. They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust. This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy. This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before. Feel free to thank me with your next promotion. The only thing you owe them is to work when you are on the clock Sounds like you are in a supervisory position and it has gotten to your head Everybody has a boss and nobody is going to remember your contribution or status in the history books People don’t even remember the name of kings and genius inventors You don’t own anybody |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 77248197 United States 02/09/2019 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else... Quoting: Seer777 My dad's oldest brother and his..wife. She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. I said they very same to my mother, the first day. My mom on the other hand..was beautiful, never fat, went to church, did everything right, and spent 45 years of her life nursing sick children and babies born before their time in the NICU. She was diagnosed with Parkinson's two months before she retired..and there is almost nothing they can do for her.. That, on top of these new 9 month abortion laws..is like God puking on her face. And I'm pissed. I'm sorry to hear it. I had an uncle with Parkinsons... he trembled for as long as I knew him. He gave it a good run, lived a good life, but I know it had to be frustrating at times. Thanks. It's not so much life expectancy than quality of life, left to live. So instead of putting money into finding a cure..we're housing a 30 year, disability bridge troll and stolen valor, statutory rapists.. as they who get the $$$$$$$$$. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76512891 Canada 02/09/2019 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once again I must register simply for one fact, to IGNORE this moron 'Truth Reaper" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77359162 No you don't. Loyalty is earned, not bought. The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself. I retired at 37. Went back to work at 43 out of boredom. How are you doing? I could probably retire you too. I hear and see young guys fretting all the time. If only they realize there boss NEEDS them. In the OP, you say " They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. " So... If employers NEED the employees, doesn't it stand to reason that the employers OWE the employees loyalty?? Your logic is fucked. It doesn't matter how many times you delete this response, your logic is plain fucking wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76941105 United States 02/09/2019 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You think because you have the power to be a gatekeeper and you hired someone that they just just constantly blow you? Typically, you hire the best candidate for the job which means they deserve it and got it because they busted their ass to get to that point;they didn’t get it just because YOU decided to hire them. Sounds like you are drunk off just a tiny bit of power over others Thank God you aren’t in a more powerful position Find some humility and give other credit for their own successes for God’s sakes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77014686 United States 02/09/2019 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Adding to the direction of "loyalty", the responsibility for communication is higher to lower. Communication lower to higher should be spelled out in official policy so employees know clearly what they are suppose too communicate. It seems to be a major problem with newby managers or bosses that think the sun rises and sets in their ass. Almost as bad are the fools give condescending speeches to grown up people. Employees have an obligation to give a good day's work for their day's pay--no question about that. However, if a boss wants 100% all the time, it would be a good idea to show respect and loyalty for those that work under them. Many people do not understand basic principles of good people management. Loyalty in large corporations is superficial-at best. Does not matter if you are white or blue collar. |
Honch User ID: 69169345 United States 02/09/2019 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say a union sabotages employers that's just fucking stupid. Obviously you never trained or had to pay payroll. Unions have the best trained skilled labor that's why southern states are lacking in trained labor. Do the math on it before you come at me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74406668 United States 02/09/2019 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree. Quoting: Wharf Rat Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years. It's still "just around the corner" The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage. So.... no, fuck that. In some instances, fuck that. Dont work for indians |
My Fear User ID: 71860689 United States 02/09/2019 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not necessarily so now a days, especially so with women. Many manager/ bosses use their employees like doormats and are very unappreciative of them. Furthermore, if you help out a women to get promoted, beware, especially if you are a female too, she will pull the ladder up and forget you were ever friends. Women after all much rather work with a team of men themselves, rather than other females who tend to play a lot of head games. Trust no one, have the perception of but, no true loyalties, and above all else take care of yourself first. I can guarantee you, you are totally replaceable and your employer could care less about you too. So if something better comes along, don't be afraid to give a days, notice and go. This is the truth now a days. Loyalty is a sales pitch. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73059140 United States 02/09/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way you should be in a company is with an ownership share. 6 month vesting at most so no one's time is wasted. Equity should increase the longer you are there. If not, work at walmart. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73059140 If you believe in the company and the work you do, always negotiate equity, not salary. |
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