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Store Owner Stabs Thief To Death -- Gonna Need Some Opinions On This One... | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14616733  United States08/05/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Chinaman  User ID: 77082211 United States08/05/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if its okay to kill somebody over property then every traffic accident would have somebody dead from multiple gun shots. Quoting: BoneTrout Some jack ass speeding in the left lane hits me with a deadly weapon while breaking the law. He destroys my property after giving no care to my life or safety while speeding and drive like a fool. Maybe I as a driver should use lethal force with a blade right? Same concept. Not the same concept. A robbery is not an accident! When was the last time you accidentally robbed someone, hello? Chinaman |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14616733 United States08/05/2022 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was cold blooded murder of someone basically doing a dine and dash. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83294801 And every time a monkey tries that shit they should be executed on the spot, cleaned up and cremated , don’t even bother to notify the family or cops. Time to end the Black Plague forever That man is a hero! I would love to shake his hand, fucking badass! Put a notch on that knife handle Rambo I don't know, but I think the thief was white. |
| Weyoun User ID: 81110693 United States08/05/2022 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many thugs and thug defenders are upset they didn't get to see another asian getting head stomped. Quoting: Weyoun You're too sensible for Canada. Get your ass to Florida! I ain't in Canada. I don't know why GLP says i'm in Canda. unfortunately stuck behind enemy lines in a commie-occupied part of America. I want to get out but I cannot move on my own do to debilitating health issues. I never been to Florida, but when I was younger and healthy I worked and lived in various parts of free America and long to go back one day. Last Edited by Weyoun on 08/05/2022 06:17 PM |
| JAZZz50 User ID: 77771189 United States08/05/2022 06:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was justified in the initial strikes, but by the time he stabbed him in the neck the robber was trying to withdraw. That’s 2nd degree murder Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80232388 i disagree. perp fought back initially and appears from the video that he had something in his hands. now can u tell what that is in 10seconds while he is swinging at u? perp crossed the counter, that is invading the cashiers safe space. as in the perp was attacking. perp did not put his hands up and say i give up. remember too a cop woulda kept shooting til he wasw out of bullets. do u want them to only shoot once? same rule applies here. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83929052  United Kingdom08/05/2022 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be. Quoting: J-Bird However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country.  What do y'all think? https://twitter.com/_/status/1555610270256562176 What’s that saying? Live by the sword die by the sword....or a knife in this dudes situation. It’s totally weird how he knew he was dieing. Gave me a chuckle. |
| Confederate Soldier User ID: 72227637 United States08/05/2022 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mask could make his life feel threatened, especially with 2 of those in front of him Quoting: Gorgol If he would have gone in bare handed, the 2nd robber could come to the rescue.. The 2nd robber almost came to robber 1's rescue, or was thinking about it, when the knifed robber said that he was dead (So don't bother and save yourself) Store guy didn't know if the robbers were armed He chose to be safest as possible without a firearm and went hard on the one he could get his hands on How high was his being robbed count for the year? I'll say self defense Bare handed the store guy could have been the dead guy Because in situations as this one, these robbers could decide anything Unless they are dead or in severe condition or scared shitless The risk comes with the 'job' for robbers who knows but if i were a gang of robbers i would be back that same night with multiple semi auto weapons. Its stupid to murder people like that. With your own words you say that all of the robbers should have been killed. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58409536 United States08/05/2022 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How was the clerk dude to know if the dirtbag robber was packing or not? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68217374 The dirtbag jumped the counter and made a move toward the clerk, the clerk then had no choice but to neutralize the dirtbag who easily could've had a weapon. Common-sense shit. If dirtbags don't want to get dead they should stop being criminal pieces of dogshit.. Three of 'em, one of them jumps the counter.... I am shooting, most likly |
| thinking... User ID: 78212432 United States08/05/2022 06:18 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639 The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life. The judicial system does not execute criminals for stealing, burglary, armed robbery, car jacking, etc. That is ENTIRELY different than a victim of a crime being able to use any force necessary to neutralize a threat, which is what the clerk did. He didn't stab him for theft, he stabbed him because he jumped the counter and posed a danger to the clerk. Further, there seems to be no evidence that the robber died. That piece of shit punk could have had a gun, for all the clerk knew, so he had no choice but to stab him until out of commission and no longer posed any possibility of a threat. This is not complicated for anyone with two brain cells to rub together. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| Doom Monkey User ID: 49880811 United States08/05/2022 06:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot have premeditation until you have planning ahead of the incident. Did the worker plan the robbery in order to have an excuse to kill the robber? If not, you cannot have premeditation. U.s Case law states premeditation happens instantly when the thought to kill happens. It goes from self defense to premeditated murder. You don't want to leave yourself at the mercy of criminals especially one who acted brazenly and attacked first, they will happily head stomp you until you are deader than disco. You don't want kids to die while stealing shit, teach them not to steal, or they'll learn the hard way. |
| BoneTrout User ID: 83928357 United States08/05/2022 06:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BoneTrout Every strike after that was premeditated capital murder. He had intent to kill. You cannot have premeditation until you have planning ahead of the incident. Did the worker plan the robbery in order to have an excuse to kill the robber? If not, you cannot have premeditation. U.s Case law states premeditation happens instantly when the thought to kill happens. It goes from self defense to premeditated murder. That doesn't apply to breaking and entering right? if somebody is in a private home you can use deadly force , unless you make a comment like " i shot her anyway" Then it becomes capital murder. That proves the threat was gone but you shot her because you wanted to. Last Edited by messagehalted on 08/05/2022 06:20 PM All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
| thinking... User ID: 78212432 United States08/05/2022 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All retail establishments should forbid masks. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| 48Panhead User ID: 79319940 United States08/05/2022 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79434768 United States08/05/2022 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as I'm concerned, once the guy jumped over the counter, he was responsible for creating the circumstance and it's outcome. That's especially true when they had the shopkeeper outnumbered. I'd have to side with the shopkeeper on this one. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58409536 United States08/05/2022 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639 The shop owner was not physically threaten. He certainly did not have to stab him multiple times till he was dead. Its just wrong It appears the intention of the clerk was to kill If we allow this then every child who might steal a candy bar could risk their life. The judicial system does not execute criminals for stealing, burglary, armed robbery, car jacking, etc. That is ENTIRELY different than a victim of a crime being able to use any force necessary to neutralize a threat, which is what the clerk did. He didn't stab him for theft, he stabbed him because he jumped the counter and posed a danger to the clerk. Further, there seems to be no evidence that the robber died. That piece of shit punk could have had a gun, for all the clerk knew, so he had no choice but to stab him until out of commission and no longer posed any possibility of a threat. This is not complicated for anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Shoot first, ask questions later You should know naturally that this trio of crank heads needed killing, this is exactly why we carry weapons |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79671574 United States08/05/2022 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Confederate Soldier User ID: 72227637 United States08/05/2022 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't pass judgement on this one. I feel incredible sadness for a pointless loss of life. The parents are to blame for not raising the kid that died right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83880400 they were stealing to feed a bunch of little white babies . Diversity has killed their hopes of survival in America. They were made this way by modern American policies of hating whitey. Babies don't eat tobacco. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83968382 United States08/05/2022 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Johnny Moonlight User ID: 82728956 United States08/05/2022 06:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gorgol I think he'll be ready for them If they exist He's had time to prepare, he's probably ready for 5 of his friends at once (but they're too scared) Store guy might have more and fiercer friends than dead robber guy One thing i have learned about life. You are never ready and you are never as bad ass as you believe. I am. I open carry while mowing my lawn so everyone can plainly see that this motherfucker ain't fuckin around.  Thats all fine and dandy but a psychopath will just wait till you turn your back after smiling and waving at you. “One time. In 1965. August, for about an hour, I was both fine AND dandy at the same time. But nobody asked me how I was.” — George Carlin Embrace your creative side before you die. |
| Doom Monkey User ID: 49880811 United States08/05/2022 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look, I get it, crime is totally out of control and even worse, it's intentionally being allowed to be. Quoting: J-Bird However, this one just really doesn't sit well. Maybe it's the innocence & fear in the perp's voice as he exclaims, "I'm dead..." but really not feeling like this needed to go down like that. Fucking tragic all around for this country. What do y'all think? https://twitter.com/_/status/1555610270256562176 What’s that saying? Live by the sword die by the sword....or a knife in this dudes situation. It’s totally weird how he knew he was dieing. Gave me a chuckle. |
| CK Dexter Haven User ID: 79489678  Switzerland08/05/2022 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was unarmed, and shoplifting It was an illegal kill... You don't have the legal right to kill somebody for shoplifting. It went beyond simple shoplifting when he jumped the counter. The masked three man team also escalates it past simple shoplifting. Impossible for the clerk to know how far they were going to go with it. People are murdered all the time in Vegas. |
| thinking... User ID: 78212432 United States08/05/2022 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what the fuck are you people talking about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51292729 yes the fucking dude deserved to get the shit stabbed out of him play stupid games win stupid prizes mother fuckers really out here gettin real bold but forgetting this is the way the world works... this is more like a fucking reality check in this crazy ass 2022 world hopefully more of this shit starts happening and mother fuckers realize stealing can lead to getting yourself killed.. maybe then these scumbags will think twice yall gettin programmed to just be fucking victims and it shows It literally sounded like a 14 year old white kid. You could tell by the voice it wasn't some hardened black criminal and they were unarmed. So many blood thirsty people on this forum. Having said that, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I have no sympathy for victim but based on the video it looks like a clear case of excessive force. Most violent crime is committed by teenagers to 20 somethings. Nobody gives a fuck if a perp is 15, 18 or 22. Further, I disagree about the sound of the perp's voice. His voice sounded like an adult. Not that it matters. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| BoneTrout User ID: 83928357 United States08/05/2022 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BoneTrout Every strike after that was premeditated capital murder. He had intent to kill. You cannot have premeditation until you have planning ahead of the incident. Did the worker plan the robbery in order to have an excuse to kill the robber? If not, you cannot have premeditation. U.s Case law states premeditation happens instantly when the thought to kill happens. It goes from self defense to premeditated murder. You don't want to leave yourself at the mercy of criminals especially one who acted brazenly and attacked first, they will happily head stomp you until you are deader than disco. You don't want kids to die while stealing shit, teach them not to steal, or they'll learn the hard way. In a society where you have poor people you will always have theft. You might as well see it as a part of life. People make mistakes and so do store owners. Just like he loved his shit on the counter somebody probably loves that kid enough to murder back. That is why we dont run around killing people over anything other then a threat to life. Last Edited by messagehalted on 08/05/2022 06:27 PM All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
| CigarTigher User ID: 79858106 United States08/05/2022 06:26 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80843224 United States08/05/2022 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Confederate Soldier User ID: 72227637 United States08/05/2022 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cannot have premeditation until you have planning ahead of the incident. Did the worker plan the robbery in order to have an excuse to kill the robber? If not, you cannot have premeditation. U.s Case law states premeditation happens instantly when the thought to kill happens. It goes from self defense to premeditated murder. Show it. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
| thinking... User ID: 78212432 United States08/05/2022 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless the punishment for theft because the death sentence... you all have to see this as wrong Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82524639 The penalty for rape isn't death either. So its wrong for a woman to use lethal force to stop such an attacker...right?  In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| tekman User ID: 82900920 United States08/05/2022 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't attack someone with a deadly weapon because they try to steal ur shit. the guy who jumped the counter didn't even look at the employee, he went straight for the goods. He only threw 1 punch after being stabbed 3 times. Quoting: SilverCyprus The last 2 stabs were un-necessary and were probably the lethal ones. The employee initially went after the other robber, but they ran away. Then he went after the 'im dead' guy. The employee went a bit too far and will probably be found guilty of 3rd degree murder and spend a year or two in prison, depending on his background and how good his lawyers are. Bullshit!! 3 burglars broke into my store while I was there. I had no way out. I made a mistake, and yelled FREEZE, when I surprised them. Two got away. I shot one in the face. The police that responded never said ANYTHING other than, "GOOD JOB!". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States08/05/2022 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Doom Monkey User ID: 49880811 United States08/05/2022 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Confederate Soldier You cannot have premeditation until you have planning ahead of the incident. Did the worker plan the robbery in order to have an excuse to kill the robber? If not, you cannot have premeditation. U.s Case law states premeditation happens instantly when the thought to kill happens. It goes from self defense to premeditated murder. That doesn't apply to breaking and entering right? if somebody is in a private home you can use deadly force , unless you make a comment like " i shot her anyway" Then it becomes capital murder. That proves the threat was gone but you shot her because you wanted to. In AZ, you can. Go into a house uninvited, and you'll be leaving dead. "Make my day" law, look it up. |
