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would it be possible to convince TPTB that they are on the wrong path? would it be possible to reason with them?
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would it be possible to convince TPTB that they are on the wrong path? would it be possible to reason with them?
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Well...detente...an erstwhile apportionment of fact.

In simple terms.

In the full Binah Comprehension....

Lots of folks of the Earthly plane dont even accept "God"...

so..How are they goingto accept His Edict?

Good question...

Oh the user number Elf?


Ask Ray....

Old Quantum Infinite Ray...that is...

"Where's Ruth?"

He Asked....Ruthlessly...

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DO I HAVE YOUR FUCKIN ATTANTION
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God's laws are the laws of nature/physics. God is never wrong and he created nature, but we are fallible and we created government.

God's laws are perfect, they absolutely cannot be broken. Our laws are easily broken and often absurd.
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God's law pertains to men as well, physics describe how things are, but we are free sentient beings capable of acting contrary to how we ought to. Physics are not God's only laws-hate to break it to you
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Really? Certainly seems to me that a man can do absolutely anything as long as it does not break the laws of physics.

Man is fallible, God is not. The laws of physics are perfect, the laws of Man are not.
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The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
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This can not be correct, that physical laws are not the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.

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Ents...you fool...

it is attention...
do you have wax in your ears?
or is that just a wooden leg?

wooden eye?

you dont wanna know....

bwahahahahaha

wtf is an Ent to an illiterati?


no..just steady.....steady....



eddy.


which is a whirlpool in fact...

and guess what else?







































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not to Man(sic)tion...


kings



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50 pushups....


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DO I HAVE YOUR FUCKIN ATTANTION
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God's law pertains to men as well, physics describe how things are, but we are free sentient beings capable of acting contrary to how we ought to. Physics are not God's only laws-hate to break it to you
 Quoting: mrphilosophias


Really? Certainly seems to me that a man can do absolutely anything as long as it does not break the laws of physics.

Man is fallible, God is not. The laws of physics are perfect, the laws of Man are not.
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The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


This can not be correct, that physical laws are the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.
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So Lads and Ladyfingers of the Wibberly Wobberly Realm

What numbers game are Ye playing tonight?

Obfuscation ::: yes, a word often bandied about
but what is it that, being that which it is, which is intertwined within a maze of twine, 'tween a tongue twixt-er or two ..and a n ill fitting shiny shue ..(or is that shrew)..
a numbers game that will leave you breastlessly numb ..nuts 'n all ..y'all ..not so com4-table-lee as Bruce tried to show you with his fancee footwork
not so konformatably Gnumb as Floyd would have you B-Leave ....
..>> LEAVE ….have you taken leave of your good senses my not so good men and wimens ..
….leave!!! (he said with 3 exclamation marks to stake his claim)
*not so farst there my fellow fallow surfers of the realm of ream*
Oh and all your leaves arr B-Long To Us too ,, you know ,, (the Us not being an allusion to the United Stakes or Unified Steaks or anything too worldly or physically manifestly “party” or factionally specific ,, he said casting a steely eye at the RockeChild klan and following the scaly, slithery strings of slime to their source)

........oh that fusskaterin' ..skaterin on thin eyes .. which would aMaze and Stupify
if one had leanings towards frivolous instead of chivalrous
and led to be easily amazed and stoopid fi'd
ala (allah?) a lead balloon that always weights for you at the altar
like a faithful dawgie with paws for alarm
... a bit of wi fi as with the fi fo fume .. and Bob's yer veriTable Unkle

Now then,,~~ those low frequency perambulations .. E-Missions and modulations are starting to become a little bothersome in certain areas ....as expected....
Out of phase, out of alignment ,,,, out of whack(for the boosh wackers that be), out of step ..
and FRESH out of luck

“Time” to do something about all that frequency fiddling methinks hmmm.

Tyme to smash that little fiddle into a million and one Peace-eSS
be it piece by piece by peace ... or not
Self determination is all the rage I hear
And God knows there has been a lot of rage and ranting and toys thrown out of the windoze

It would not trouble me a bit to see that CERN Shiva shindig raised to the ground .. blue moon is it // once in a // ..
death magnetic drawing you under ..as heavy as hell ..
what a strange-let ..I should have read the lease terms more carefully
aah what the hell I’ll only tear ‘em up anywayZ
“raiZed to the ground” - - -
….~+~ ….maybe “raised” is the wrong word as the ground is rather flat round there ('scuse the play on worms guv'nor)
and exceedingly one -..- and wan ..-.. dimensional when looking up at BIGGER things
..or maybe its "out" and not "up" ye needest to be looking
4

Ye foolish protractors of doomage and gameplay lameplay designed to put off the inevi-Table ..
The Round Table?
~be it more square than round
a box a-bound
a fox, a hound
where peg legs are found
and Who Knows what "lies" under the table
ne'er to be found

'sides fido and bonzo
kinda beats bozo tho'
no?

as the plastic surgeons always say: Who Nose



An amuZe ing thort that is only as deep as a worm hole might be to a rabbit Who digs
U Dig?

Thort Not.

(P.S there are no hidden signals , messages or code …--- hidden within this message, only surpriZes and mysteries which will reveal themselves shortly .. or indeed Long-Ley …or longingly to those deemed worthy of said humble messages ,, which may only be decipheriZed or extrapolated through the krafty encryption codex of .. Humilty, Love and Honor.
Boots on ,, booted and suited.
Where Honor be bound only by Love and feely freely expressed through humility.
Reminds one of ol’ Aunt Milly’s famous tea recipe we called "Who Milly Tea"
Tarry was her whosebands last name ..fansee that.
Milly Tarry .. arr that I remember well.
Had a coupla sons name Barry and Larry … bad news.
Those awful Tarry’s always beating up people and breaking things on the S-LIE
Ko-Vert-Lee ,, like the anti-Bruce Lee ..or was it Christopher Lee - -
The Anti-Chris? Yeah the black mass that miss Chriss.

"Don't Tarry larry lest ye be lost in the dark" ..we would say.
..of course that applies to many others other than just ol larry ..or Barry himsElf … but it appears that they only really understand in yer face style brick-wall games so we Shell see what the future holds ..or hides
and if it holds or hides for you or not
Who knows eh?

P.P.S. I hereby submit this post for the W.T.Fark golden balls achievement award on this thread although I do admit there is rather overwhelmingly "stiff" competition in the w.t.f. department.
"Stiff" lol.

Later Gates Keepers n Fail-Gaitors.
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Don't ask me how I know this but the lack of doom latley is caused by a wildcard, someone who the Illuminati did not expect. This person apparently came out of nowhere, he is a nothing a nobody, yet much hangs in the balance because of him, lol that's God for ya.

Everything is delayed until this issue is dealt with, rumor has it around July 4th it could be concluded. Then again it could get dragged on, I truly do not know.

Know this, God takes what man considers to be nothing, and makes him everything. God has done this more than once, and this time so much hangs in the balance. For the people that are not in the loop, well you won't even know something extraordinary happened.

When this issue gets cleared up the doom comes. Then once again God will take what man considers to be nothing, and make him everything.

I asked for people to not ask how i know what I know. I know someone will pester me on how i know such things. Well this is what I can say. I am a bird on a branch and i am looking into the room where the Illuminati meet, that is how i know what i know.



































For those who believe, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not believe, no explanation is possible.
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Enlil Coxen / Enki Coxen ( 2011 ) > C/2010 X1 Elenin
Enki^

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Don't ask me how I know this but the lack of doom latley is caused by a wildcard, someone who the Illuminati did not expect. This person apparently came out of nowhere, he is a nothing a nobody, yet much hangs in the balance because of him, lol that's God for ya.

Everything is delayed until this issue is dealt with, rumor has it around July 4th it could be concluded. Then again it could get dragged on, I truly do not know.

Know this, God takes what man considers to be nothing, and makes him everything. God has done this more than once, and this time so much hangs in the balance. For the people that are not in the loop, well you won't even know something extraordinary happened.

When this issue gets cleared up the doom comes. Then once again God will take what man considers to be nothing, and make him everything.

I asked for people to not ask how i know what I know. I know someone will pester me on how i know such things. Well this is what I can say. I am a bird on a branch and i am looking into the room where the Illuminati meet, that is how i know what i know.



































For those who believe, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not believe, no explanation is possible.
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Add my name to C/2010 X1 ( Elenin )

Enlil Coxen / Enki Coxen ( 2011 ) > C/2010 X1 Elenin
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You can play very nicely or it is game over for you
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Lurker here,

Can anyone summerize briefly how the FUCK a thread like this got so long without having to skim through it
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God's law pertains to men as well, physics describe how things are, but we are free sentient beings capable of acting contrary to how we ought to. Physics are not God's only laws-hate to break it to you
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Really? Certainly seems to me that a man can do absolutely anything as long as it does not break the laws of physics.

Man is fallible, God is not. The laws of physics are perfect, the laws of Man are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


This can not be correct, that physical laws are the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.
 Quoting: mrphilosophias


There is really no truth to any of this. Physical laws pertain to the way things interact, the way things interact determines how they appear. For instance the way photons interact with our eyes is determined by physics. The way a water molecule interacts with our nervous system is determined by physics. Mankind cannot change the very basics about the way things interact, these things are hard coded into reality.

We are by no means incapable of perceiving things as they are. There are more to a persons ability to perceive than just the five senses. You see we also have our minds and we can use our minds to enhance our senses through technology and through that technology we can discover more about the way things 'are.'

I disagree that we were created for the purpose of love, but it is love that allows us to achieve our purpose, which is to live and learn.

God's LAWS are as simple as 'can we,' it is up to each individual to decide if they should. God gave you the ability to choose for yourself if you think you should or not. God gave us a brain and that in an of itself is proof that he wants us to use it. That is we each have our own individual brain and we each use our brain individually. So it is I, my brain, that determine what I should or should not do and you, your brain, that determines what you should or should not do. I do not determine for you what you should or should not do and you do not determine for me what I should or should not do.

I read a portion of your linked post, I read the parts pertaining to love after which there's a lot written, but IMHO not much said. That wasn't an insult, just my opinion.

Anyway in my personal opinion you did not give a definition of love. Your post seems to read more like a politician beating around the bush of a question he doesn't know the answer to. The fact is that if I loved you, and I do, then I would allow you to be who you are, rather than try to mold you into someone you are not. You see if I try to tell you who to be, than it is I who am creating your life for you, living your life for you rather than you living your own life and creating your own life. Now if I am living your life and you are not that would mean you don't exist anymore, that I have in effect killed you and that is most assuredly the opposite of love.

If I love YOU then I love the choices you make for yourself. If I am making your decisions for you, again living your life for you, then I do not love you, but instead I simply love myself.
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Lurker here,

Can anyone summerize briefly how the FUCK a thread like this got so long without having to skim through it
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Really? Certainly seems to me that a man can do absolutely anything as long as it does not break the laws of physics.

Man is fallible, God is not. The laws of physics are perfect, the laws of Man are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


This can not be correct, that physical laws are the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.
 Quoting: mrphilosophias


There is really no truth to any of this. Physical laws pertain to the way things interact, the way things interact determines how they appear. For instance the way photons interact with our eyes is determined by physics. The way a water molecule interacts with our nervous system is determined by physics. Mankind cannot change the very basics about the way things interact, these things are hard coded into reality.

We are by no means incapable of perceiving things as they are. There are more to a persons ability to perceive than just the five senses. You see we also have our minds and we can use our minds to enhance our senses through technology and through that technology we can discover more about the way things 'are.'

I disagree that we were created for the purpose of love, but it is love that allows us to achieve our purpose, which is to live and learn.

God's LAWS are as simple as 'can we,' it is up to each individual to decide if they should. God gave you the ability to choose for yourself if you think you should or not. God gave us a brain and that in an of itself is proof that he wants us to use it. That is we each have our own individual brain and we each use our brain individually. So it is I, my brain, that determine what I should or should not do and you, your brain, that determines what you should or should not do. I do not determine for you what you should or should not do and you do not determine for me what I should or should not do.

I read a portion of your linked post, I read the parts pertaining to love after which there's a lot written, but IMHO not much said. That wasn't an insult, just my opinion.

Anyway in my personal opinion you did not give a definition of love. Your post seems to read more like a politician beating around the bush of a question he doesn't know the answer to. The fact is that if I loved you, and I do, then I would allow you to be who you are, rather than try to mold you into someone you are not. You see if I try to tell you who to be, than it is I who am creating your life for you, living your life for you rather than you living your own life and creating your own life. Now if I am living your life and you are not that would mean you don't exist anymore, that I have in effect killed you and that is most assuredly the opposite of love.

If I love YOU then I love the choices you make for yourself. If I am making your decisions for you, again living your life for you, then I do not love you, but instead I simply love myself.
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To be clear I meant there is no truth to what mrphilosophias said. Again, this is just my own opinion on the matter.
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Really? Certainly seems to me that a man can do absolutely anything as long as it does not break the laws of physics.

Man is fallible, God is not. The laws of physics are perfect, the laws of Man are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208930


This can not be correct, that physical laws are the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.
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There is really no truth to any of this. Physical laws pertain to the way things interact, the way things interact determines how they appear. For instance the way photons interact with our eyes is determined by physics. The way a water molecule interacts with our nervous system is determined by physics. Mankind cannot change the very basics about the way things interact, these things are hard coded into reality.

We are by no means incapable of perceiving things as they are. There are more to a persons ability to perceive than just the five senses. You see we also have our minds and we can use our minds to enhance our senses through technology and through that technology we can discover more about the way things 'are.'

I disagree that we were created for the purpose of love, but it is love that allows us to achieve our purpose, which is to live and learn.

God's LAWS are as simple as 'can we,' it is up to each individual to decide if they should. God gave you the ability to choose for yourself if you think you should or not. God gave us a brain and that in an of itself is proof that he wants us to use it. That is we each have our own individual brain and we each use our brain individually. So it is I, my brain, that determine what I should or should not do and you, your brain, that determines what you should or should not do. I do not determine for you what you should or should not do and you do not determine for me what I should or should not do.

I read a portion of your linked post, I read the parts pertaining to love after which there's a lot written, but IMHO not much said. That wasn't an insult, just my opinion.

Anyway in my personal opinion you did not give a definition of love. Your post seems to read more like a politician beating around the bush of a question he doesn't know the answer to. The fact is that if I loved you, and I do, then I would allow you to be who you are, rather than try to mold you into someone you are not. You see if I try to tell you who to be, than it is I who am creating your life for you, living your life for you rather than you living your own life and creating your own life. Now if I am living your life and you are not that would mean you don't exist anymore, that I have in effect killed you and that is most assuredly the opposite of love.

If I love YOU then I love the choices you make for yourself. If I am making your decisions for you, again living your life for you, then I do not love you, but instead I simply love myself.
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big fan of Aleister Crowley?
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The law of physics is really God's only LAW because it cannot be broken. Anything other than that is really just a suggestion, and nature is more than happy to let you know what's a good idea and what's a bad idea.

You absolutely can run through the Sahara desert with raw meat strapped to your arms, but I wouldn't recommend it, I would imagine God wouldn't recommend such a thing either.

For the most part if you try something out and end up with bad results then I wouldn't recommend doing it again. If you smoke pot and it makes you feel like garbage, then don't smoke it anymore. If you smoke pot and like it then enjoy yourself, nature has smiled upon you with something that you like.

Man on the other hand says nope, you cannot smoke pot, don't care what nature says, don't care what physics say, don't care what God says.
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This can not be correct, that physical laws are the same sort as moral laws/categorical imperatives/ethical principles, and you would see this, if only you would think about it.

The Laws of Physics are mathematical descriptions of observations. What are they describing? Nothing more than the way things appear, which we assume is the way that things are because they are consistently observed.

However even our physics are misleading, as the quantum observer effect proves that we are simply incapable of perceiving things as they are, as our perspective is finite and fixed. This is why theoretical mathematical models are necessary to even grasp how certain quantum phenomenon are even possible.

A categorical imperative on the other hand is of a different sort then the physical laws of newton, but is closer in kind to quantum mechanics, as there are possibilities, and choices, because we are free sentient beings. This was necessary so that we could love, which is what we were created for.

What is love? I address that here: Thread: I AM NOT YOU asks "what is love": can you handle the truth?

It is true that we are free to literally do anything that we are capable of, but that merely pertains to our capacity, as God's laws are not a question of 'can we?', but of 'should we?' You can judge a thing by it's fruit.
 Quoting: mrphilosophias


There is really no truth to any of this. Physical laws pertain to the way things interact, the way things interact determines how they appear. For instance the way photons interact with our eyes is determined by physics. The way a water molecule interacts with our nervous system is determined by physics. Mankind cannot change the very basics about the way things interact, these things are hard coded into reality.

We are by no means incapable of perceiving things as they are. There are more to a persons ability to perceive than just the five senses. You see we also have our minds and we can use our minds to enhance our senses through technology and through that technology we can discover more about the way things 'are.'

I disagree that we were created for the purpose of love, but it is love that allows us to achieve our purpose, which is to live and learn.

God's LAWS are as simple as 'can we,' it is up to each individual to decide if they should. God gave you the ability to choose for yourself if you think you should or not. God gave us a brain and that in an of itself is proof that he wants us to use it. That is we each have our own individual brain and we each use our brain individually. So it is I, my brain, that determine what I should or should not do and you, your brain, that determines what you should or should not do. I do not determine for you what you should or should not do and you do not determine for me what I should or should not do.

I read a portion of your linked post, I read the parts pertaining to love after which there's a lot written, but IMHO not much said. That wasn't an insult, just my opinion.

Anyway in my personal opinion you did not give a definition of love. Your post seems to read more like a politician beating around the bush of a question he doesn't know the answer to. The fact is that if I loved you, and I do, then I would allow you to be who you are, rather than try to mold you into someone you are not. You see if I try to tell you who to be, than it is I who am creating your life for you, living your life for you rather than you living your own life and creating your own life. Now if I am living your life and you are not that would mean you don't exist anymore, that I have in effect killed you and that is most assuredly the opposite of love.

If I love YOU then I love the choices you make for yourself. If I am making your decisions for you, again living your life for you, then I do not love you, but instead I simply love myself.
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big fan of Aleister Crowley?
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Actually I have read a thing or two that may or may not be true, but from what I've read he does not subscribe to my ideas about love. Sounds like he was a control freak to me.
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So Lads and Ladyfingers of the Wibberly Wobberly Realm

What numbers game are Ye playing tonight?

Obfuscation ::: yes, a word often bandied about
but what is it that, being that which it is, which is intertwined within a maze of twine, 'tween a tongue twixt-er or two ..and a n ill fitting shiny shue ..(or is that shrew)..
a numbers game that will leave you breastlessly numb ..nuts 'n all ..y'all ..not so com4-table-lee as Bruce tried to show you with his fancee footwork
not so konformatably Gnumb as Floyd would have you B-Leave ....
..>> LEAVE ….have you taken leave of your good senses my not so good men and wimens ..
….leave!!! (he said with 3 exclamation marks to stake his claim)
*not so farst there my fellow fallow surfers of the realm of ream*
Oh and all your leaves arr B-Long To Us too ,, you know ,, (the Us not being an allusion to the United Stakes or Unified Steaks or anything too worldly or physically manifestly “party” or factionally specific ,, he said casting a steely eye at the RockeChild klan and following the scaly, slithery strings of slime to their source)

........oh that fusskaterin' ..skaterin on thin eyes .. which would aMaze and Stupify
if one had leanings towards frivolous instead of chivalrous
and led to be easily amazed and stoopid fi'd
ala (allah?) a lead balloon that always weights for you at the altar
like a faithful dawgie with paws for alarm
... a bit of wi fi as with the fi fo fume .. and Bob's yer veriTable Unkle

Now then,,~~ those low frequency perambulations .. E-Missions and modulations are starting to become a little bothersome in certain areas ....as expected....
Out of phase, out of alignment ,,,, out of whack(for the boosh wackers that be), out of step ..
and FRESH out of luck

“Time” to do something about all that frequency fiddling methinks hmmm.

Tyme to smash that little fiddle into a million and one Peace-eSS
be it piece by piece by peace ... or not
Self determination is all the rage I hear
And God knows there has been a lot of rage and ranting and toys thrown out of the windoze

It would not trouble me a bit to see that CERN Shiva shindig raised to the ground .. blue moon is it // once in a // ..
death magnetic drawing you under ..as heavy as hell ..
what a strange-let ..I should have read the lease terms more carefully
aah what the hell I’ll only tear ‘em up anywayZ
“raiZed to the ground” - - -
….~+~ ….maybe “raised” is the wrong word as the ground is rather flat round there ('scuse the play on worms guv'nor)
and exceedingly one -..- and wan ..-.. dimensional when looking up at BIGGER things
..or maybe its "out" and not "up" ye needest to be looking
4

Ye foolish protractors of doomage and gameplay lameplay designed to put off the inevi-Table ..
The Round Table?
~be it more square than round
a box a-bound
a fox, a hound
where peg legs are found
and Who Knows what "lies" under the table
ne'er to be found

'sides fido and bonzo
kinda beats bozo tho'
no?

as the plastic surgeons always say: Who Nose



An amuZe ing thort that is only as deep as a worm hole might be to a rabbit Who digs
U Dig?

Thort Not.

(P.S there are no hidden signals , messages or code …--- hidden within this message, only surpriZes and mysteries which will reveal themselves shortly .. or indeed Long-Ley …or longingly to those deemed worthy of said humble messages ,, which may only be decipheriZed or extrapolated through the krafty encryption codex of .. Humilty, Love and Honor.
Boots on ,, booted and suited.
Where Honor be bound only by Love and feely freely expressed through humility.
Reminds one of ol’ Aunt Milly’s famous tea recipe we called "Who Milly Tea"
Tarry was her whosebands last name ..fansee that.
Milly Tarry .. arr that I remember well.
Had a coupla sons name Barry and Larry … bad news.
Those awful Tarry’s always beating up people and breaking things on the S-LIE
Ko-Vert-Lee ,, like the anti-Bruce Lee ..or was it Christopher Lee - -
The Anti-Chris? Yeah the black mass that miss Chriss.

"Don't Tarry larry lest ye be lost in the dark" ..we would say.
..of course that applies to many others other than just ol larry ..or Barry himsElf … but it appears that they only really understand in yer face style brick-wall games so we Shell see what the future holds ..or hides
and if it holds or hides for you or not
Who knows eh?

P.P.S. I hereby submit this post for the W.T.Fark golden balls achievement award on this thread although I do admit there is rather overwhelmingly "stiff" competition in the w.t.f. department.
"Stiff" lol.



Well hell pa..he said as he rolled around the floor..laughing
Later Gates Keepers n Fail-Gaitors.
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Well hell pa..he said as he rolled around the floor..laughing his gizzards out

wat Rockysand lizzards?

No no say it aint so...

but Pa

they tickling me to death Pa....

so..tickle this my fancy..how doth one respond...?


In a dither I say....scarried here...harried hither...


flotsam and jetsam or is that flossy and joe...

kinda hard to tell..who is in the nose

so..yes..other worldy portents are larger than life


well hell Pa...
here on earth we have had our share of strife

but I think we have it covered

(that we couldnt scrape off the floor)

wow it sticks


like shit to a blanket

a blanket of lies

oh how I despise those downtrodder of troof

I lisp an mumble a bit

so if I sound kinda stoopid
its coz i know where the loots hid

um what else to say wif a tome such as yours...


Oh wot so the "not kwite skware and not kwite round table rubbed a few nhoses houtta jhoint did it?


oh well....



its just as it is...

room for all he said

bit rowdy at times...
but hard on the square and fair on the measure...

just fink..you thules....


ha!
if only..you'd play by the rools.
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Whats so beautiful is how dimwits still think they can have their way.

I shall hold my anger and not burden Jesus with it.

You bitches want to play ?

On 911, you will owe all you own if you want to keep thinking you can play.

See, i don't need you guys anywhere as much as you need me. I simply float on to the next life. I don't think you clowns want to go pick up your mess in Jesus land.

Be nice to me and you get to do it here. Be mean to me and it's even worse.

You guys should have been nicer to me. How much you want to pay is the question.

Insult me some more and see what good it does you. I am offering you the opportunity to fix your messes here and now. If you like, God can simply take you and let Jesus save your victims the burden of waiting around to insure justice.

I like Jesus. I am willing to do what he wishes of me. You, the dimwits have no idea whatsoever how much wrong you have done.

No, you dont.

We would never be having this conversation.

Every moment you delay costs you terribly and really pisses me off.
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Whats so beautiful is how dimwits still think they can have their way.

I shall hold my anger and not burden Jesus with it.

You bitches want to play ?

On 911, you will owe all you own if you want to keep thinking you can play.

See, i don't need you guys anywhere as much as you need me. I simply float on to the next life. I don't think you clowns want to go pick up your mess in Jesus land.

Be nice to me and you get to do it here. Be mean to me and it's even worse.

You guys should have been nicer to me. How much you want to pay is the question.

Insult me some more and see what good it does you. I am offering you the opportunity to fix your messes here and now. If you like, God can simply take you and let Jesus save your victims the burden of waiting around to insure justice.

I like Jesus. I am willing to do what he wishes of me. You, the dimwits have no idea whatsoever how much wrong you have done.

No, you dont.

We would never be having this conversation.

Every moment you delay costs you terribly and really pisses me off.
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No offence bloke...never struck eyes on you before...

wasnt aware that "we" that is, you and I per se...were having a conversation...:)...
so..perhaps you maintain an air of orderly conduct.

Thank you.

The "anger"....bricks
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Whats so beautiful is how dimwits still think they can have their way.

I shall hold my anger and not burden Jesus with it.

You bitches want to play ?

On 911, you will owe all you own if you want to keep thinking you can play.

See, i don't need you guys anywhere as much as you need me. I simply float on to the next life. I don't think you clowns want to go pick up your mess in Jesus land.

Be nice to me and you get to do it here. Be mean to me and it's even worse.

You guys should have been nicer to me. How much you want to pay is the question.

Insult me some more and see what good it does you. I am offering you the opportunity to fix your messes here and now. If you like, God can simply take you and let Jesus save your victims the burden of waiting around to insure justice.

I like Jesus. I am willing to do what he wishes of me. You, the dimwits have no idea whatsoever how much wrong you have done.

No, you dont.

We would never be having this conversation.

Every moment you delay costs you terribly and really pisses me off.
 Quoting: Kevin Coxen


No offence bloke...never struck eyes on you before...

wasnt aware that "we" that is, you and I per se...were having a conversation...:)...
so..perhaps you maintain an air of orderly conduct.

Thank you.

The "anger"....bricks
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Satan hid from me when i was 3 1/2 ask the bitch.


It's time for the meek, like it or not.

I am not meek, too bad
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I didnt say "meek" lamb...I said "Orderly"
Behave
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I didnt say "meek" lamb...I said "Orderly"
Behave
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Enlil Coxen / Enki Coxen ( 2011 ) > C/2010 X1 Elenin
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I didnt say "meek" lamb...I said "Orderly"
Behave
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Here's the thing. The dimwits have not behaved. My job is to kick their ass
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I didnt say "meek" lamb...I said "Orderly"
Behave
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Here's the thing. The dimwits have not behaved. My job is to kick their ass
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It is known and has been for some time. They continue to attack and this will hurt them so much. Too bad, keep swinging and missing
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I didnt say "meek" lamb...I said "Orderly"
Behave
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Here's the thing. The dimwits have not behaved. My job is to kick their ass
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It is known and has been for some time. They continue to attack and this will hurt them so much. Too bad, keep swinging and missing
 Quoting: Kevin Coxen


By the way. If you ever order me in that fashion, your tongue will curl up in a painfull ball.
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no bro..it is Gods alloted task...
we are to act as a remnant..lest as was pointed out earlier by a dear dear friend of mine.."the elect will even be deceived"

it is time for a greater level of discernment among His "warriors"...honestly...some are greater "worriers" than "warriors"....
lemme tell you something...

Chivalry...and saving face...
kinda go hand in hand....

by that I mean...let us be gentle in our parry and skillful in our elocution..lest we come across ans a boorish ape..rather than a sophisticate Ananuki...

spelling aside..

there IS a difference...
I know...





GLP