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The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.

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No more secret whatevers - all power structures, visible in plain sight.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
Magic (higher spirituality) in peaceful coexistence with science & technology a la Atlantis.
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Magic is NOT higher spirituality. It's just a tool, like the scientific method.

"Higher" means it increases the quality. Magic does not increase the quality of spirituality and I never read your buddy Franz Bardon say it. Where did you get this from?


It's just another path, and in my opinion a selfish one (you said you are like "an hermit", no?).
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No more secret whatevers - all power structures, visible in plain sight.
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How do you connect society ruled by magic and technology to "no more secrets"?

That's just an assumption from you. Secrets could still rule such a society. Since when magic and technology dispel all secrets?
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
If you want a peek into what your utopian society might look like, look no further, there are already examples in this world.

Look at magi orders like the Golden dawn for example.

Would you say it's an epitome of harmony and friendship? Would you say there was no secrets in that microcosm?
Would you say that order lasted for ages thanks to it's stability?


Clearly you should study history, real history, better. It's enlightening.
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You know what LV, you're just great because you illustrate so well my long posts from yesterday. I wish people could read them and then see how real it is through you and your aspirations for this future.

NWO
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12/28/2010 07:12 AM
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Checkmate.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
But what's the difference between science and magic? The level of understanding of things. The link you posted earlier advocated a new age of science and magic, hand in hand.
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The first takes care of the matter, the second of the mind.

Atlantis was probably also such a society, with science and magic being actually the same discipline, probably ruled by some kind of caste of "techno-magi".
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If you look how every ancient society was structured, the highest caste was always the priest/mages/philosophers - and there is a reason for it.

Magic is NOT spirituality, that's a misconception from you.
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The misconception is yours, because all higher spirituality leads to "magic".

Magic is spirituality dissected by the logical and scientific mind.

Spirituality is spirituality, point.
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A technocracy as such can gain more and more insights into the powers, that magic deals with, but salvation is only possible individually.

You say science is atheist and magic not. I say the opposite can be true too.
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I dare to disagree, because the first is firmly grounded in matter (empirism) and the second is firmly grounded in faith (otherwise it wouldn't work).

Science can be theist and magic can be atheist:
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It's the other way round.

Magic can be selfish (black magic) and be based on the belief that it's all in the human mind (atheist/new tought). And I think I already posted the long list of Christian scientists here.



Clearly a magocracy is in no way a sure ticket to world peace. And once again, only a disconnected ruling elite caste will actually manage things and benefit from it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208145


But the christ consciousness is - getting rid of the ego; ans that's the foundation of white magic.


Furthermore, everyone who ever dreamed of One-"something" (one faith, one religion, one party, one world order, one race,...) is on the broad path to hell. History always proved it.
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There is only one truth and not 3879.



You dream about Atlantis back. What happened to Atlantis? Are you nostalgic? Do you want history repeating?
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Atlantis was ruined towards the end by the same people, whose spiritual successors are in charge now ... If this isn't an omen, isn't it?

What do you think about new-age teachings?
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Most of them are demonically inspired nonsense, but some give clues in the right direction.
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Magic is NOT higher spirituality. It's just a tool, like the scientific method.
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A tool of the ego of the black magicians. For the white ones, it is something different - a sort of "byproduct", of spiritual progress.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
You dream about Atlantis back. What happened to Atlantis? Are you nostalgic? Do you want history repeating?


Atlantis was ruined towards the end by the same people, whose spiritual successors are in charge now ... If this isn't an omen, isn't it?
 Quoting: LVPravdaFan


"ruined towards the end by the same people, whose spiritual successors are in charge now"

Tell me, what is one of the favorite symbol of those in charge today?

Isn't it... the pyramid? Isn't their objective, one world religion?

So you want them back? Once again?



The word is about, there's something evolving,
whatever may come, the world keeps revolving
They say the next big thing is here,
that the revolution's near,
but to me it seems quite clear
that it's all just a little bit of history repeating

The newspapers shout a new style is growing,
but it don't know if it's coming or going,
there is fashion, there is fad
some is good, some is bad
and the joke is rather sad,
that its all just a little bit of history repeating

.. and I've seen it before
.. and I'll see it again
.. yes I've seen it before
.. just little bits of history repeating

Some people don't dance, if they don't know who's singing,
why ask your head, it's your hips that are swinging
life's for us to enjoy
woman, man, girl and boy,
feel the pain, feel the joy
aside set the little bits of history repeating

.. just little bits of history repeating
.. and I've seen it before
.. and I'll see it again
.. yes I've seen it before
.. just little bits of history repeating





Poor Salomon...
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
Magic is NOT higher spirituality. It's just a tool, like the scientific method.


A tool of the ego of the black magicians. For the white ones, it is something different - a sort of "byproduct", of spiritual progress.
 Quoting: LVPravdaFan



The tool is the same, only people are different.


With the same tool you don not guarantee people will be different.
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How do you connect society ruled by magic and technology to "no more secrets"?
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The visible persons in power are in power and not some cabals in the background - christ consciousness is necessary to accomplish it.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
The tool is the same, only people are different.


With the same tool you don not guarantee people will be different.
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They need to realize indeed, what the ego is about.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
The tool is the same, only people are different.


With the same tool you don not guarantee people will be different.


They need to realize indeed, what the ego is about.
 Quoting: LVPravdaFan


And that shall be our conclusion for today :P

Your utopian society of Atlantean science and magic cannot guarantee the above.


It was nice talking to you LV hf

I too like secrets being exposed ;p
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Tell me, what is one of the favorite symbol of those in charge today?

Isn't it... the pyramid? Isn't their objective, one world religion?

So you want them back? Once again?
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A pyramid is a symbol of the god human and the ancient atlantis/egypt highpriests/mages were like a connection to the divine - not to compare with the current religous leaders.

The goals of those in charge are actually quite similar. But the left hand path is a delusion and the right hand path is real.
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christ consciousness is necessary to accomplish it.
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LoL even better!

Me poor Christian is so glad to see you write this hf
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A pyramid is a symbol of the god human and the ancient atlantis/egypt highpriests/mages were like a connection to the divine - not to compare with the current religous leaders.

 Quoting: LVPravdaFan


Last time I checked religious leaders are not in charge today.

But those who worship the pyramid are.
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Your utopian society of Atlantean science and magic cannot guarantee the above.
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It's not that utopian at all, because the blueprint for it is in me and especially a guide how to get rid of the ego - which will manifest hopefully more and more as time passes by.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
A pyramid is a symbol of the god human and the ancient atlantis/egypt highpriests/mages were like a connection to the divine - not to compare with the current religous leaders.

The goals of those in charge are actually quite similar. But the left hand path is a delusion and the right hand path is real.
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The "left-hand path" doesn't use the word "god human".
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
A pyramid is a symbol of the god human and the ancient atlantis/egypt highpriests/mages were like a connection to the divine - not to compare with the current religous leaders.

The goals of those in charge are actually quite similar. But the left hand path is a delusion and the right hand path is real.


The "left-hand path" doesn't use the word "god human".
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Sorry I meant "right-hand path" of course.


The "left-hand path" does indeed use the word "god human".
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A pyramid is a symbol of the god human and the ancient atlantis/egypt highpriests/mages were like a connection to the divine - not to compare with the current religous leaders.



Last time I checked religious leaders are not in charge today.

But those who worship the pyramid are.
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the leaders of today do not worship the pyramid they worship the myriad.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
It's not that utopian at all, because the blueprint for it is in me and especially a guide how to get rid of the ego - which will manifest hopefully more and more as time passes by.
 Quoting: LVPravdaFan



Qui vivra verra...

"Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme."
-Rabelais


That's "Science without conscience is but the ruin of the soul." if you wondered.
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The "left-hand path" doesn't use the word "god human".
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If the intention is to be stucked to matter forever, you are far away from being any sort of "God".
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can't beat 'm



join 'm





start going to a random day in your future and live it for the



space of half an hour
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
the leaders of today do not worship the pyramid they worship the myriad.
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Then you should ask yourself why they put everywhere?
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Checkmate.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
the leaders of today do not worship the pyramid they worship the myriad.



Then you should ask yourself why they put everywhere?
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cause they are illusionists, cape and all they are illusionists.
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
The "left-hand path" doesn't use the word "god human".


If the intention is to be stucked to matter forever, you are far away from being any sort of "God".
 Quoting: LVPravdaFan


Lol one day you say space explorations is our future, the next you preach gnostic views.

You should choose man you can't do everything at the same time. ;)
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Re: The Illuminati was made a offer they couldn't refuse.
Sorry I meant "right-hand path" of course.


The "left-hand path" does indeed use the word "god human".
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The right hand path does use the word too, because in the higher stages, you have more similarity to God, than to a human.

The so called new world order of the left hand path, is actually a drive to establish a one world goverment, with no goals, or pretty lame at best.
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Lol one day you say space explorations is our future, the next you preach gnostic views.

You should choose man you can't do everything at the same time. ;)
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LoL ... when science & magic work hand in hand, this will be the result.
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LoL ... when science & magic work hand in hand, this will be the result.
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We'll see then. We're far from there yet. Very far.

Like you said the main focus for this time are the problems regarding the oversized egos of some people, and the lack of moral and ethical values of this age.





GLP