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thanks for that tip

gained 5kg. on the holidays, paining my body back into fat metabolism and that's always hard after binging times like I've had...but I'll succeed, know my body, know how to
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I have found that the calories and fats don't matter at all - all that matters is protein and carbs.
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Glad to see some new posts on this thread. I gained 3 pounds over the holidays, but it was the inflammation, moodiness and joint pain that killed me. I am back on track now and my knees and fingers feel so much better.
One of my favorite new lo carb discoveries is Philly cheese steak stuffed green peppers. Omg! So great!
This method of eating is the best for me and changed my life! I have been following this method for over two years. I never want to go back to the chubby and crabby person I was. Today I am smaller than all 3 of my 20-something daughters and feel as energetic as ever.
I love this diet, and I love Scorpio for putting this info out here so I could stumble across it. In the beginning I read this thread back and forth daily for encouragement and info. I don't know if I could have made it past the third week on this diet without having had the ongoing dialog here to lean on. There is a gold mine of information here and inspiration.
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Here is a great video/interview of Dr Mary Vernon, MD, is one of the world's foremost experts on treating obesity and diabetes with low carbohydrate nutrition. She is a practicing family physician, educates doctors on low carb and is active in and former president of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians (doctors specializing in treating obese patients).

Nobody knows more about the practicalities of low carb than dr. Mary Vernon. Here she explains it for you.




It is 32 minutes long , but well worth the watch, for anyone who wishes to hear about the very low carb success from a medical point of view--and when asked she responded that the low carb lifestyle was good for EVERYONE.
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I tried that Atkins diet and had little to no success with it.
Isn't it a fact that if you drink lots of water, get plenty of excercise and cardiovascular activity and consume less calories than what you burn....that you WILL lose weight?
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Wondering if anyone can tell me how long the detox period will last for a person who has eaten unhealthy for years and years? I need to loose a simple TON but more importantly I need to get healthy!!!!!!!

Yup, big wuss here. Tried the Atkins years ago and suffered such severe headache and stomach issues, just gave up!

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It's interesting to see this thread again and to read what was posted a couple of years ago -v- what is being posted now. I posted a couple of times early on. I've really been on a kind of personal journey the past few months with my weight.


I've discovered a new way to eat but it's not necessarily low carb. I've been very successful, too. My experience was that early last June, I didn't eat wheat for three days. I think it was because it was early summer and I was more interested in smoothies, salads, and the likes - it wasn't a conscious decision. I discovered I felt so much better but didn't know why. I reviewed my diet and realized it was the lack of wheat. In doing research, I learned that gluten sensitivities are hereditary and I know from doctors' tests that my son is sensitive. Hmmm, I thought, that probably means I am, too. So, I dropped all wheat and gluten products from my diet.

I have eaten lots of raw fruits, raw and steamed veggies, dairy products, and meats. No processed foods at all. I've been walking 1 mile per day. I lost a ton of weight (just slightly over 40 lbs)and improved my health tremendously. I didn't realize that eating wheat was behind my cravings for sugar. I always thought eating the sugar itself caused my cravings and couldn't figure out why, even when I stayed away from white sugars and HFCS I still drooled over baked goods. I don't crave them at all now.

However, I have also discovered that if I slip and eat wheat, the inflammatory response makes me gain 3-4 pounds overnight and then I crave junk again. This isn't just because of the insulin spike issue, but because of the specific compounds wheat contains.

If you do research on wheat intolerance, you will find that wheat causes all kinds of problems in our modern diets (diets which are filled with processed wheat products) - and the consumption of our modern wheat pretty much mirrors the increase in obesity. Heart disease, diabetes, fibromyalgia, joint pain (especially feet, ankle, wrist, hand), near-sightedness and night blindness, etc., wheat can play a role in so many of our modern ills.
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Above poster here - I meant to say I walk one hour per day at a brisk clip while walking the dog (I'm not quite sure where the mile came from - :0). I haven't been exercising a ton or anything, but I am pretty active normally with gardening, cleaning and such.

It's also important if you are getting up in years like I am (50), that you wear good, supportive shoes. When your feet hurt everything hurts and you don't want to do much but sit in a chair.
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Excellent post, I am 50+ also. Health is suffering and have decided if I want to live a few more decades, the things have GOT to change. My kids are only 12 and 15, I owe it to them and then to myself. Who wants to be a burden on their loved ones.
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What quantity of protein recommended for this type of diet?

I am believer in paleo / low carb natural real food but hear different opinions on amount of protein. Some say eat all the protein you desire (be naturally self-regulating) others say limit protein (use a formula based on your weight) because protein in excess of your daily cellular repair needs cause some metabolic problems.
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I think the first page shows in what % of fat, protein and carbs.
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What quantity of protein recommended for this type of diet?

I am believer in paleo / low carb natural real food but hear different opinions on amount of protein. Some say eat all the protein you desire (be naturally self-regulating) others say limit protein (use a formula based on your weight) because protein in excess of your daily cellular repair needs cause some metabolic problems.
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determine your target body weight - height in centimeters minus 100(+- 6%)then take your target body weight in kilograms. You eat approximately 1 gram of protein per kilogram of target weight per day. 2.5-3.5 grams fat, .25 to .50 grams carbs.
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cheese and dairy are not good for you and are not part of a real paleo diet, and you should be getting all of your butter and meats from grass fed or pasture raised animals, so alot of the info on this thread is completely booshit
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Even if you don't stick to the ratios, you'll still lose as long as the protein/carbs are low. I can't eat that much fat, but I still lose with around a 2:1 fat/protein ratio. I also carb load on 1 day a week to restore my muscle glycogen levels for my workouts. I'll eat nothing but starchy foods like potatoes for that one day. Even with this I'm always in at least a moderate state of ketosis (according to the ketostix I use to measure ketones). I find carb loading 1 day a week works better if you're trying to build muscle. I'm seeing better gains than when I first started this in 2011. The only tradeoff is your body fat will burn off a little slower than pure low carb.
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Even if you don't stick to the ratios, you'll still lose as long as the protein/carbs are low. I can't eat that much fat, but I still lose with around a 2:1 fat/protein ratio. I also carb load on 1 day a week to restore my muscle glycogen levels for my workouts. I'll eat nothing but starchy foods like potatoes for that one day. Even with this I'm always in at least a moderate state of ketosis (according to the ketostix I use to measure ketones). I find carb loading 1 day a week works better if you're trying to build muscle. I'm seeing better gains than when I first started this in 2011. The only tradeoff is your body fat will burn off a little slower than pure low carb.
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Here is a great macro calculator. It will help figure out the percentages to eat for your height and weight.

[link to www.freedieting.com]

I've been paleo the past year and I look and feel amazing.

I'm in my early 40's and a toned size 4.
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Here is a great video/interview of Dr Mary Vernon, MD, is one of the world's foremost experts on treating obesity and diabetes with low carbohydrate nutrition. She is a practicing family physician, educates doctors on low carb and is active in and former president of the American Society of Bariatric Physicians (doctors specializing in treating obese patients).

Nobody knows more about the practicalities of low carb than dr. Mary Vernon. Here she explains it for you.




It is 32 minutes long , but well worth the watch, for anyone who wishes to hear about the very low carb success from a medical point of view--and when asked she responded that the low carb lifestyle was good for EVERYONE.
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Great video.
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Hi OP! Is there any book you can recommend that explains all this in detail? I can't sit at the computer and read through 100 pages of this thread.....and the info is all scattered through the thread.

I'm going to try this diet, but I need to educate myself about it first.

Thank you!

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Hi OP! Is there any book you can recommend that explains all this in detail? I can't sit at the computer and read through 100 pages of this thread.....and the info is all scattered through the thread.

I'm going to try this diet, but I need to educate myself about it first.

Thank you!

hf
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Check out Gary Taubs [link to www.amazon.com]
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Hi OP! Is there any book you can recommend that explains all this in detail? I can't sit at the computer and read through 100 pages of this thread.....and the info is all scattered through the thread.

I'm going to try this diet, but I need to educate myself about it first.

Thank you!

hf
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Check out Gary Taubs [link to www.amazon.com]
 Quoting: Generation Doom


Thanks, I got the Atkins book, bought a scale and Ketosis test strips. Going grocery shopping today and plan to start Atkins tomorrow. I'm going to loose around 70lbs.

Maybe I really can do it this way and feel healthy again! I'm excited!

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Hey gang!

I am sure many of you noticed the "bullet-proof" coffee thread a few weeks back.

I went out and bought some quality shade grown coffee, and some kerrygold grass fed butter. I had coconut oil on hand.

This stuff is awesome.

2 cups fresh brewed/filtered.
2 or more tablespoons grass fed butter.
2 or more tablespoons coconut oil.

Put in blender. Run on high till everything is emulsified.

Yields slightly more than two cups of very tasty and highly energized hot beverage. With just the two tablespoons each of butter and oil - this drink provides nearly 500 calories, almost all fat. Delicious. This would be a very effective way of doing a 'fat-fast' since it gives you the fat, and is easy to consume.

I get the same effect as eating bacon and eggs. Smooth, steady energy for 7-8 hours before feeling hungry. Have had several 2-3 day stretches where I was never hungry, but also never lacked in energy.

I had gained about 8 lbs. over the winter and so was near the top of my range. Lost 8 lbs. in two weeks using this bev.

just search for 'bullet-proof coffee'.
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I started on friday and this morning I'm already down 2 pounds!
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Down another pound...........1 pound per day average right now.
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Down another pound...........1 pound per day average right now.
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It comes off fast in the beginning. My first month alone I dropped 18 lbs. Just stick with it as your normal way of eating and it'll all come off with time.

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Down another pound...........1 pound per day average right now.
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It comes off fast in the beginning. Just stick with it as your normal way of eating and it'll all come off with time.
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Yea, I'm really happy!
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again can't push through the carb addiction and the first hunger feelings of the fat fast, damnit
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again can't push through the carb addiction and the first hunger feelings of the fat fast, damnit
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I know, I'm craving carbs too....really bad ....I'm on day 5. I got Ketosis test strips, so atleast I know I'm now in fat burning mode instead of sugar burning mode. It does help a little mentally to know that.

Did you get any ketosis test strips?
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I am not sure why you are having such intense carb cravings. I was mega-carber right up to the day I started this diet. Never had cravings. I was only hungry when I was hungry, if that makes sense. I could walk by a bakery in the morning and the smells had no power.

Typical for me is 7-8 hours between meals, eating this way.

I think one of the best tricks for defeating cravings is to drink a 8-12 ounces of water. It has been mentioned numerous times in this thread to keep your water intake up. When you are detoxing, you need lots of it to help flush everything out.

Also, if you have cut way back on fruits, fruit juices, and vegetables, you need to replace the water that you formerly obtained from those foods.