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MUSLIMS ONLY WORSHIP ONE GOD: GOD OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,DAVID,SOLOMON,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD

 
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In other words-

Evil thought is a sin.


How many seconds does Quran allow you to indulge in evil thoughts before it is a sin?




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I take full responsibility for not being able to explain the entire matter in a way so your mind can grasp the logic and reasoning as demonstrated by my response. I take responsibility.

At this point all I can do is Pray to God that he guide you to the straight path and bless you with peace.

Out of all the opinions...only one is correct.
So let it be as is and not be immature and make mockery of Gods laws.

Peace
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C'mon Brother- it was a light-hearted response.

Anyway- we now agree-

Sooner or later- evil thought is a sin.


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No brother we do not agree...

As i stated an EVIL Thought is not a SIN.
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lol-

he continue indulging in the thought ...….SIN COMMITTED

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"Indulging in a thought" is different that just plain old thinking?

What if you just think about indulging?


Did you take lessons from Pres Clinton?

(This is a light-hearted response also:)



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Next topic..... enguard
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Agreed.
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BTW... I thought you explained that very well..
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Thank you...It was actually through your assistance...using the word "Dewlling" THANK YOU
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How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



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Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.





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How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.



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What about a women who was raped?



How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



I pasted the above again...thus you not make attempt to avoid question please enlighten me.


Are you suggesting that Jesus (PBUH) died on the cross for the sin of mankind....He never met you....yet he sins for all evil that you think?
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Next topic..... enguard
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Agreed.
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





This one was posted:



Does Quran have a similar teaching as this?....


All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation
. (Mark 3)




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How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.



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Sorry I doubled up again....

What about a women and Adult who was raped? Or any other Victim of Crime or injustice...or someone who has seen evil all their life...etc...


Are you suggesting that Jesus (PBUH) died on the cross for the sin of mankind....He never met you....yet he sins for all evil that you think?
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Next topic..... enguard
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Agreed.
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





This one was posted:



Does Quran have a similar teaching as this?....


All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation
. (Mark 3)


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Yes...something similar...but an exception.

Everything will be fogiven...except SHIRK.
Please lookup the word "SHIRK" because im obviously not doing a good job on explaining various things.

Thanks
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How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.



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What about a women who was raped?




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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?


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Next topic..... enguard
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Agreed.
 Quoting: Truth 1307494





This one was posted:



Does Quran have a similar teaching as this?....


All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation
. (Mark 3)


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Yes...something similar...but an exception.

Everything will be fogiven...except SHIRK.
Please lookup the word "SHIRK" because im obviously not doing a good job on explaining various things.

Thanks
M
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Well that explains quite a bit regarding the difference between Muslims and Christians...


...another form, is to treat a prophet, such as Jesus, as God.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]




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How would you explain the evil thoughts of a Molested Child against his evil doer?

Are you saying the Christianity then is writing a SIN
for this innocent child who has experienced such injustice..



 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.



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What about a women who was raped?




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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....

Pls explain or do not bring it up again...and we can proceed on your next topic
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Christianity gives children a special consideration:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.



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What about a women who was raped?




 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....


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Correct.

She is Commanded to love her neighbor. (turn the other cheek, etc)



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How about you allow others to ask you questions now...
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What about a women who was raped?




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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....


 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Correct.

She is Commanded to love her neighbor. (turn the other cheek, etc)



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Brother...do you think that is the Reality...taht nobody thinks evil and thus everyone including Jesus is a sinner because of THOUGHT CRIME?
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What about a women who was raped?




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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....


 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Correct.

She is Commanded to love her neighbor. (turn the other cheek, etc)



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And you said I had a heavy BURDEN..

End of day...

everyone have a great weekend.

peace
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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....


 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Correct.

She is Commanded to love her neighbor. (turn the other cheek, etc)



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Brother...do you think that is the Reality...taht nobody thinks evil and thus everyone including Jesus is a sinner because of THOUGHT CRIME?
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Jesus was not a sinner...


Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.




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Will God forgive your sins?

Should she forgive?

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Thats not the question brother....the question you asked is applied to her...

Are you saying a Innocent women who was brutily raped suffering injustice...has no right to unintentional evil thoughts lurking in her mind toward the EVIL DOER>

????

Thus your answer.. NO she is sinning and thus should not have evil thoughs....


 Quoting: Truth 1307494



Correct.

She is Commanded to love her neighbor. (turn the other cheek, etc)



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And you said I had a heavy BURDEN..

End of day...

everyone have a great weekend.

peace
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Actually-

You made an invitation to be a Muslim- and the response was that the 'actions' (rituals, requirements,steps/pillars? etc) seemed to be burdensome.

It seems easier to pray like this...

6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly (Matt 6)




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Brother...do you think that is the Reality...taht nobody thinks evil and thus everyone including Jesus is a sinner because of THOUGHT CRIME?
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Jesus was not a sinner...


Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.




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Lets see you beleive j'sus to be a man not god. Yet you claim he never had a bad thought pop into his mind therefore he never sinned.

Sounds like a robot.

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Brother...do you think that is the Reality...taht nobody thinks evil and thus everyone including Jesus is a sinner because of THOUGHT CRIME?
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Jesus was not a sinner...


Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.




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Lets see you beleive j'sus to be a man not god. Yet you claim he never had a bad thought pop into his mind therefore he never sinned.

Sounds like a robot.
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Why mock Jesus and the NT?

Have you been mocked?

Here's another verse:

...unto God and his Father (Rev 1:6)





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ONLY PAGAN WORSHIPS MORE THEN ONE GOD--- GOD OF CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM AND ISLAM IS SAME GOD---- WE ALL ARE BROTHERS WHO ARE DIVIDED BY ILLUMINATI SECRET AGENDA---- JUST FOLLOW THE MESSAGE OF ADAM,ABRAHAM,MOSES,JESUS AND MOHAMMAD U ALL WILL BE SAVED resist
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No you muslims are of the devil.

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Bunch of murdering heathen, just like the cafflicks.
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Jesus was not a sinner...


Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.




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Lets see you beleive j'sus to be a man not god. Yet you claim he never had a bad thought pop into his mind therefore he never sinned.

Sounds like a robot.
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



Why mock Jesus and the NT?

Have you been mocked?

Here's another verse:

...unto God and his Father (Rev 1:6)


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Daniel, there isn't a man on earth that hasn't had a evil thought pop into his head at one time or another. Whether it be to admire a woman's appearance, (lust) to think about how they could use something that another has. (covet) etc. Anyone who has not had a wrong thought would be a cold robotic person. Sorry if you think that is mocking but it is the truth.

BTW J'sus did sin, simply because he disobeyed or did not fulfill these commandments.

All of these are Biblical (not Rabbinical) commandments, and not customs.
He didn't marry a Jewish woman
He didn't have Jewish children from her.
He didn't circumcise his sons.
He didn't each Torah to his own sons.
Not eat bread on Passover.
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Lets see you beleive j'sus to be a man not god. Yet you claim he never had a bad thought pop into his mind therefore he never sinned.

Sounds like a robot.
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Why mock Jesus and the NT?

Have you been mocked?

Here's another verse:

...unto God and his Father (Rev 1:6)


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Daniel, there isn't a man on earth that hasn't had a evil thought pop into his head at one time or another.
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Thank goodness we have these words...


14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.





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BTW J'sus did sin, simply because he disobeyed or did not fulfill these commandments.

All of these are Biblical (not Rabbinical) commandments, and not customs.
He didn't marry a Jewish woman
He didn't have Jewish children from her.
He didn't circumcise his sons.
He didn't each Torah to his own sons.
Not eat bread on Passover.
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Thank you for clarifying our differences.

(And sorry to hear about all your Commandments)




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Anyone who has not had a wrong thought would be a cold robotic person. Sorry if you think that is mocking but it is the truth.


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Would God have a wrong thought?

(or are you mocking God as well?)




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BTW J'sus did sin, simply because he disobeyed or did not fulfill these commandments.

All of these are Biblical (not Rabbinical) commandments, and not customs.
He didn't marry a Jewish woman
He didn't have Jewish children from her.
He didn't circumcise his sons.
He didn't each Torah to his own sons.
Not eat bread on Passover.
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Thank you for clarifying our differences.

(And sorry to hear about all your Commandments)




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If j'sus was a J'ew, those were his commandment also.. After all you say he was a man and not a god.
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BTW J'sus did sin, simply because he disobeyed or did not fulfill these commandments.

All of these are Biblical (not Rabbinical) commandments, and not customs.
He didn't marry a Jewish woman
He didn't have Jewish children from her.
He didn't circumcise his sons.
He didn't each Torah to his own sons.
Not eat bread on Passover.
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Thank you for clarifying our differences.

(And sorry to hear about all your Commandments)




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If j'sus was a J'ew, those were his commandment also.. After all you say he was a man and not a god.

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Perhaps you are mistaken about Jesus-

Did you want the long or the short answer?



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BTW J'sus did sin, simply because he disobeyed or did not fulfill these commandments.

All of these are Biblical (not Rabbinical) commandments, and not customs.
He didn't marry a Jewish woman
He didn't have Jewish children from her.
He didn't circumcise his sons.
He didn't each Torah to his own sons.
Not eat bread on Passover.
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I don't recall asking a question.



Thank you for clarifying our differences.

(And sorry to hear about all your Commandments)




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If j'sus was a J'ew, those were his commandment also.. After all you say he was a man and not a god.

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Perhaps you are mistaken about Jesus-

Did you want the long or the short answer?



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I don't recall asking a question.




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You made a statement... 'You say...'



Where do you get your information?



Again- perhaps you are mistaken about Jesus.




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I trust the subject has now changed to if prophets commit a sin?

If yes, answer is no. Prophets do not commit sin.
Jesus was a man mortal and a messenger sent by GOD.

In addition, every nation, tribe has been sent a messenger from amongs themselves. This so they will not have an excuse on judgment day that they never recieved a the word.

You think that Buddha was a messenger too. And after much time people took him up as some to worship with his statue idol everywhere

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I trust the subject has now changed to if prophets commit a sin?

If yes, answer is no. Prophets do not commit sin.
Jesus was a man mortal and a messenger sent by GOD.

In addition, every nation, tribe has been sent a messenger from amongs themselves. This so they will not have an excuse on judgment day that they never recieved a the word.

You think that Buddha was a messenger too. And after much time people took him up as some to worship with his statue idol everywhere

Thanks





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