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They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!

 
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An additional possible idea here is to weaken Federalism further, by getting Republicans to support abolishing the electoral college.
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That is not a good idea at all, that leave mob rule, they could turn back the clock, and they could be elected the way the constitution set it up. The Senator should be appointed by the state they are from not elected, that way it was, that is so they do the states business only!

See, the way they change it led to the problems we have now.
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Re: They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!
why must you leave?

Why cannot you pretend youare camping out inside of your own house?- Winter isnot here, yet.

Make it fun: buy a tent or two.

Buy camping gear.

Shower with a friend.

Learn camping skills.

Donot pay your bills.

Board up some doors and windows and pretend youarenot there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140421


honestly this is exactly what id do.
What you perceive to be is your reality.

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Re: They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!
Build some windmills on Jones Beach...

Why would the people who are ANTI hydrocarbon energy be in any sort of rush to restore HC generated energy?...they won't be...They also won't be in any hurry to rebuild or restore any homes that were along a shore or beach, they would much rather see those properties never rebuilt.

They will be much happier seeing these places never return. So they will have the insurance companies and the Federal govt pay the people off and have them go elsewhere, like it or not. No utilities the properties will be condemmed, the former owners either bought out or paid off, shuffled away and in a few months it'll be more difficult to return than stay wherever they are.

Big gov't in action...it's what people asked for, so it's what people get.
 Quoting: SHR


Yeah Agenda 21, Rewilding, push the tards into Megacities like in Soylent Green, Judge Dredd and other post apocalyptic dystopies.

That has been the plan all along and we do know the morans of the world love living crammed together, cattle they are and cattle they will stay. It's sad because they all had potential but they chose the hand out and the dumb down, as long as the ball game/idol/hollyweird is on all will be fine...
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Were these people told to evacuate before the storm hit? and they wanted to stay because they were afraid looters would take their stuff? so now they are living like animals all because of their Stuff.
 Quoting: MONSTER


Amazing, isn't it? But in New Orleans, people died because they couldn't take a pet with them....isn't it the same thing? You are attached to your stuff. We all are.
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About tents, if you get a tent with a woodburningstove you can live in that tent all year round, I have lived an entire winter in such a tent and our winters are much worse than NY winters.

So it can be done.
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Gov. Christie sold his soul for nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24408152


This. One of the most shocking things about the election was how much BHO's photo op with Christie impacted the vote. For 15% of the morans out there it was the #1 issue! All while FEMA can't get water to people and they are still finding bodies!! IDIOCRACY.
 Quoting: snark


Well, the Messiah told them he was taking care of everything. Even Fat Bastard (movie character) Christie bought it.

If this is how Obama treats his main base of supporters, just imagine what it will be like for the rest of us!

In a disaster, it couldn't get much worse as I am sure you remember as well, Snark, from your flooding. Me from our torandoes. So really we have nothing to lose because we know he won't do anything for us from the beginning.
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Obama came to Alabama after the bad tornadoes that tore up a big amount of central and north area, the Governor met with him, then he was gone. It was a photo op we did most of the clean up, FEMA said houses were liveable when there was only a foundation left, so you know how they helped. Don't be so hard on Christie, he did what most governors do, even if he is more liberal than most republicans.
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We never saw Obama here in the northern part of the state. Bin Laden was killed and Obama was too busy spiking the ball to even remember we existed.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I think going to the beach is the least of your worries..no elect.no gas..no water= disease in my opinion
Plus crammed population..wt!
damned
 Quoting: wildhoney


Virus Breaks Out at NYC School Being Used as Storm Shelter

A Brooklyn high school being used as a shelter for Sandy victims has to be shut down and sanitized after about a dozen storm refugees came down with a stomach virus.

Mayor Bloomberg said John Jay High School will be closed Wednesday instead of opening for classes as scheduled.

"The school will be thoroughly cleaned and then reopened," Bloomberg said.
[link to www.nbcnewyork.com]
 Quoting: Treyfish




The reason for the outbreak was due to poor sanitation!
Cause ~ Effect! People in the shelter were using the floors as a toilet, instead of a bag, or digging a hole, or something creative. I posted a link to the story of this when it happened yesterday.
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not having to worry about re-election the real Obama comes forth
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Now that will be some interesting shit right there.
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Re: They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!
New Jersey and New York both voted for Obama correct. There was a crappy response to Sandy before and after it hit. Now the real Sh!t is going to hit the fan cause Obama don't give a sh!t about all you people that are homeless, without power or in need of some clean underwear. I frankly am surprised that you east coasters would be so easily fooled by a shady Chicagoan, you got played and now you are not going to get sh!t for at least 6 to 8 weeks, Oh by the way that is just about the same amount of time it takes for a person to run throw everything when they are living pay check to pay check.

If you voted for Romney and he won he would have been on a plane to New Jersey and New York Today getting thinks done. Do you see Obama anywhere today? No ! get used to it
 Quoting: JackBalls 12355012


There are MORMONS (like 'em or don't like 'em - I'm not one of them, but they DO respond to disasters) on the ground in NY/NJ handing out clothing/food/water. They have been there since day two.

WHAT are your precious Dems doing for ya? Hmmm?
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Here's a video on why there was an outbreak...


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Where is FEMA and the Red Cross Now?

You voted for it don't ask for help.
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An additional possible idea here is to weaken Federalism further, by getting Republicans to support abolishing the electoral college.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27212869


That is not a good idea at all, that leave mob rule, they could turn back the clock, and they could be elected the way the constitution set it up. The Senator should be appointed by the state they are from not elected, that way it was, that is so they do the states business only!

See, the way they change it led to the problems we have now.
 Quoting: Daughter


This is 100% correct. The senators if selected by their state's congress would not be beholden to farce elections and pandering. They'd serve the interests of their state, not the sheeple. The house would still be elected by the sheeple, however.

This was a critical element of the balance of power that our founders conceived.
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Re: They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!
Tents? Do you think people that live in a city go camping?

Only us red neck rural fucks as you call it go camping.

Funny thing is usually somewhere even more rural.
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Oh shit, here we go again. At GLP doom is always just a day away. putin
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The gay obugger just got reselected, so doom is already here.

The people who lived in the storm's path knew what they were getting into. It's not the government's problem at any level.

It's also immoral and common law illegal to "evacuate" aka steal someone's property.

People have a right to live in their own houses regardless of the risk, and die there if that's the consequence.
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Social Services will take away the children, because of having no utilities, because itis considered neglect etc.
Propane is the answer to that.

Propane is coal oil, a blessing, in the form of jobs, to the suffering coal miners.

Thereis a normal, nice looking (comes in black or white), gasrange (ihave two of them), made in Mexico, sold at Home Depot for by now probably a little over $300.00 (i paid $300.00), really, nice, large oven (has a bottom broiler under the oven). It is not electric in any way and can be converted to propane. Itis called "Americana".

Remember this, folks: "thereis no place like home", but do eventually move back off the beach-front properties, and islands.

Also:

Remember this:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
PART ONE - of -
“Presenting!
Beach-Front Property For Sale At Cost Of Blood”
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Were these people told to evacuate before the storm hit? and they wanted to stay because they were afraid looters would take their stuff? so now they are living like animals all because of their Stuff.
 Quoting: MONSTER



You're obviously not familiar with this area. You don't just evacuate this many people. The roads are jammed all the time in the NY/NJ metro area during normal times. It would be one giant gridlock and people would be dying in their cars.
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Some people WERE told to evacuate....as long as 3-4 days ahead of time. I remember people being on this forum THE NIGHT BEFORE IT GOT BAD, still asking us what they should do! By then, they probably couldn NOT have gotten out, but with 3 or 4 days notice, I think anyone who wanted to go would have been able to beat the crowds.
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It's a perfect cover, the evacs will be permanent and BP will be able to begin the systematic destruction and pillaging of the Marcellus Shale Deposit.
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9teen I doubt it, the Marcellus Shale outcrops are nowhere near New York City - they outcrop in the state way out in the country, and only touch the northern tip of New Jersey.
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Re: They Just announced they will not be restoring Power or Natural Gas to Sandy victims and they must evacuate!
Were these people told to evacuate before the storm hit? and they wanted to stay because they were afraid looters would take their stuff? so now they are living like animals all because of their Stuff.
 Quoting: MONSTER



You're obviously not familiar with this area. You don't just evacuate this many people. The roads are jammed all the time in the NY/NJ metro area during normal times. It would be one giant gridlock and people would be dying in their cars.
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I SERIOUSLY doubt TPTB could give two shits about gridlock or people dying in their cars.
 Quoting: In-Situ


I can't count how many serious storms I've been through in the states and I never once saw a free bus heading out, it was all just people in cars. Was I just in the wrong neighbourhood or are the elderly and broke just screwed? How can they even drive out if none of them have enough gas after the whole post storm gas crisis? Sitting in bumper to bumper evacuation traffic eats up gas (been there, done that), where in the hell are they supposed to get more?
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clappa

YESSSS!!!
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Holy Shit... See everything was put on hold until after the election... the east coast may not have its power restored until spring!
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My friend who lives in Seaside Heights was told eight months until gas service will be restored.
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Sea water in the lines, they have to REPLACE all of them
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Oh shit, here we go again. At GLP doom is always just a day away. putin
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The gay obugger just got reselected, so doom is already here.

The people who lived in the storm's path knew what they were getting into. It's not the government's problem at any level.

It's also immoral and common law illegal to "evacuate" aka steal someone's property.

People have a right to live in their own houses regardless of the risk, and die there if that's the consequence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27129967


Social Services will take away the children, because of having no utilities, because itis considered neglect etc.
Propane is the answer to that.

Propane is coal oil, a blessing, in the form of jobs, to the suffering coal miners.

Thereis a normal, nice looking (comes in black or white), gasrange (ihave two of them), made in Mexico, sold at Home Depot for by now probably a little over $300.00 (i paid $300.00), really, nice, large oven (has a bottom broiler under the oven). It is not electric in any way and can be converted to propane. Itis called "Americana".

Remember this, folks: "thereis no place like home", but do eventually move back off the beach-front properties, and islands.

Also:

Remember this:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
PART ONE - of -
“Presenting!
Beach-Front Property For Sale At Cost Of Blood”

 Quoting: truth 27140421

itis on page 3, about 3 posts down:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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It's a perfect cover, the evacs will be permanent and BP will be able to begin the systematic destruction and pillaging of the Marcellus Shale Deposit.
 Quoting: siniXster


^^^^^^^ THIS

Seems not many citizens understand how integral BP's activities are now to the nation that is crumbling right in front of them . . .
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I think going to the beach is the least of your worries..no elect.no gas..no water= disease in my opinion
Plus crammed population..wt!
damned
 Quoting: wildhoney


Virus Breaks Out at NYC School Being Used as Storm Shelter

A Brooklyn high school being used as a shelter for Sandy victims has to be shut down and sanitized after about a dozen storm refugees came down with a stomach virus.

Mayor Bloomberg said John Jay High School will be closed Wednesday instead of opening for classes as scheduled.

"The school will be thoroughly cleaned and then reopened," Bloomberg said.
[link to www.nbcnewyork.com]
 Quoting: Treyfish


I bet bad water
 Quoting: MONSTER


NY Health Dept. issues drinking water advisories and updates.

Drinking Water Advisories Following Hurricane Sandy

Do Not Use or Do Not Drink Advisories
Boil Water Notices
Water Conservation Advisories

Hurricane Sandy affected many public drinking water systems. Most of these were well prepared and switched over to back-up power with minimal interruption in service. Some drinking water systems, however, were more severely impacted and either lost service or may have become contaminated by floodwaters. Others may not have any water quality concerns but may need to limit the amount of water use.

The following three categories include drinking water systems that have Do Not Use/Do Not Drink advisories, Boil Water Notices, or Water Conservation advisories. The lists were updated from information received as of 10:00am, November 7, 2012.

Do Not Use or Do Not Drink Advisories

Drinking water systems that were severely damaged, have limited amounts of available water, or may otherwise have been unusually compromised have been issued a Do Not Use or a Do Not Drink advisory.

County PWS ID# System Name Water Restriction Do Not Use/Do Not Drink Date
Nassau NY2902838 Mill Neck In effect Do Not Use Issued on 10/29/2012
Nassau NY2902834 Long Beach In effect Do Not Use Issued on 10/30/2012
Queens NY7003493 Breezy Point In effect Do Not Drink Issued on 11/02/12
Boil Water Notices

Some drinking water systems have notified their customers that they should boil water to ensure that it is safe to drink. The following is a list of boil water notices in areas impacted by Hurricane Sandy.

County PWS ID# System Name Boil Water Notice Boil Water Notice Date
Orange NY3503540 Orchard Hill Estates In effect continued BWO
Orange NY3503621 Painted Apron Village In effect continued BWO
Orange NY3503600 Scot..

[link to www.health.ny.gov]

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Tents? Do you think people that live in a city go camping?

Only us red neck rural fucks as you call it go camping.

Funny thing is usually somewhere even more rural.
 Quoting: thyme


Aren't people insured over there? We regularly get flooding events in the UK (obviously not on the scale of Sandy) but peoples living expenses, whether it be rented property or hotel is covered by insurance. Often it will take 12 months for a house to dry out and have the necessary repairs, particularly from the sewage which most often gets backed up into the flood waters and that is without structural damage.
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:shrugs: I could care about as much as Obama does for you guys. He fooled ya, and now you gots to pay. Pity. Had you voted in Romney, he'd prolly be there today helping out. Anyone know where BO is today?
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Obama: Thank you for your vote, now get on the bus.
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Not bus, cattle car.
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Not on.
UNDER
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Oh FFS, ya'll have it wrong. Its FEMA trucks ya know!!!!
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Propane is coal oil ???

sigh
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New Jersey and New York both voted for Obama correct. There was a crappy response to Sandy before and after it hit. Now the real Sh!t is going to hit the fan cause Obama don't give a sh!t about all you people that are homeless, without power or in need of some clean underwear. I frankly am surprised that you east coasters would be so easily fooled by a shady Chicagoan, you got played and now you are not going to get sh!t for at least 6 to 8 weeks, Oh by the way that is just about the same amount of time it takes for a person to run throw everything when they are living pay check to pay check.

If you voted for Romney and he won he would have been on a plane to New Jersey and New York Today getting thinks done. Do you see Obama anywhere today? No ! get used to it
 Quoting: JackBalls 12355012


Maybe O's playing some golf and Michelle is planning their next vacation, give 'em a break they're busy!!!
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everything was put on hold until after the electionohappy
 Quoting: Treyfish


Yep. Remember the secret conversation that Obama had with the Russians, where he, "just needed a little more time." Well, he's got it now. I wonder what that deal is going to turn out to be.
 Quoting: In-Situ


how come the report about two attack class subs being parked off the eastern seaboard is mute?
Defense: The fruit of unilateral disarmament, appeasement and promised "flexibility" patrols our East Coast near one of our largest ballistic missile submarine bases. Defense cuts and Russian subs — a double whammy.

'On June 1 or a bit later, we will resume constant patrolling of the world's oceans by strategic nuclear submarines," Russian Navy Commander Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky said in February. Keeping that promise, a Russian Sierra-2 class nuclear attack submarine cruised within 200 miles of our East Coast on the eve of a U.S. presidential election in which defense spending and priorities were a key issue.

This is the first time a Russian Sierra-2 class sub, believed to be based with Russia's Northern Fleet and armed with SSN anti-submarine warfare missiles and torpedoes, has been detected near the U.S. coast, reports Bill Gertz of the Washington Free Beacon.

"As was their primary mission during the Cold War, Russian SSNs nuclear attack submarines would likely be trying to track U.S. nuclear missile submarines deploying from Kings Bay, Ga., and to monitor U.S. naval deployments from Norfolk, Va.," according to Richard Fisher, a military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center. Two guided missile submarines and six nuclear missile submarines are docked at Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base.

The Sierra-2 is comparable to the U.S. Los Angeles-class attack submarine. Russia is building a new class of attack submarines said to be comparable to the latest U.S. Virginia-class subs, Fisher says. The attack sub was accompanied by a nearby Russian electronic intelligence-gathering vessel that was granted safe harbor during Hurricane Sandy in the commercial port of Jacksonville, Fla., within listening range of Kings Bay.

Russian nuclear sub patrols, which fell sharply after the defeat of the Soviet Union, have returned with a vengeance after the famous pressing of the "reset" button by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. As we've noted, a more advanced and harder-to-detect Russian Akula-class attack submarine sailed undetected in the Gulf of Mexico in August along vital U.S. shipping lanes.

So as we gut our military budget and scrap major weapons systems, Russia continues to rearm. It recently announced the deployment of a new submarine-launched ballistic missile — a three-stage weapon with a 5,000-mile range that can carry up to 10 warheads.

The U.S. Navy has indicated a need for 313 ships to fulfill its obligations, while the Quadrennial Defense Review Independent Panel recommended a fleet of 346 ships. If current budget cuts aren't reversed and sequestration of defense funds mandated by the Budget Control Act remain in place, the Navy will shrink to 238 vessels and would lose two carrier battle groups.


Read More At IBD: [link to news.investors.com]
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Holy Shit... See everything was put on hold until after the election... the east coast may not have its power restored until spring!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


Anyone who has driven down some of the roads in NJ would realize this, that it would take weeks and months to return power. Miles and miles of downed powerlines.
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Holy Shit... See everything was put on hold until after the election... the east coast may not have its power restored until spring!
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Anyone who has driven down some of the roads in NJ would realize this, that it would take weeks and months to return power. Miles and miles of downed powerlines.
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and here comes winter.





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