I really want a Christian to answer this...not a troll thread.

Imaginary? So you're insinuating 'love' does not exist then?

'Love' is a word used to describe a state of consciousness. A feeling, an emotion. Language is limiting so never could a single word be relied upon to sufficiently explain/describe a very complex array of emotions which can encompass such a conceptualization.

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G-d's Glory Cloud
This Cloud has appeared to Bro. Deckard three times during the course of his ministry.
These pictures have been examined by experts proving their authenticity. When the cloud appears, all manner of healings, miracles, salvation and deliverance comes to those who come in contact with the cloud. The cloud has demonstrated the glory of G-d to such an extent that many of other religions fall on their faces and receive Jesus as their L-rd and Savior.

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Prophetic Signs


Bro. Deckard is a born again Jew that G-d has called to the office of the Prophet. He has established over 160 churches around the world. G-d called him to be a Prophet sent to the nations and Bro. Deckard has prophesied to leaders and nations throughout the world. A few of the Prophesies that G-d gave to Bro. Deckard which have come to pass are as follows:



Prophesied the coming of the AIDs Epidemic 2 years before it was discovered. He told the people that the government would try to cover it up but in the end they would have to reveal it.
Prophesied that Prime Minister Sandiford of Barbados would be resigning from office.
Prophesied that the cold war would end and the Berlin Wall would be no more, 1 year before it took place. He also Prophesied that the threat during the cold war was not Russia; it would come from the Middle East.
Prophesied that the tornado activity in America would become greater than ever before known on record.
Prophesied that old diseases that the world thought had been eradicated would return and that they would become immune to our modern day medicines now being used.
Prophesied the flooding of the great Mississippi River 6 months before it occurred.
Prophesied the coming of the first war with Iraq [Desert Storm], and then prophesied that America would have to go back and finish the job at a later date.
Prophesied the beginning of the European Common Market and the struggle that they would have accomplishing the task.
Prophesied the events of 911 five years before it occurred.
Prophesied that the Islamic religion would become the fastest growing religion in the United States. This was in 1990, and today it is a known fact that this has come to pass.


Bro. Deckard has given signs to every nation that he has stepped foot upon that they might know G-d has sent a Prophet unto them:

Prophesied that the four year drought would be broken in Central Africa three days after he departed from the nation. This occurred exactly as G-d had spoken.
In the Philippines Prophesied that a volcano which had been dormant for 500 years would erupt as a sign that G-d had sent him there. This occurred two years later.
Prophesied in Guyana, South America that flood waters would flow into the drinking water and thousands would become ill. This occurred shortly thereafter.
Prophesied a great drought would come upon the land of Madagascar. This occurred three months later.
These are a few of the Prophecies that Bro. Deckard has been given by G-d.


Prophecy For America

This nation has become a stench in the nostrils of G-d and it is too late to turn His judgment back. G-d’s spirit will no longer strive with America and America is in for a long, hard fall. I realize this is not what people want to hear, but this is what the L-rd is saying.

America, prepare thyself to receive the judgments of your G-d. I gave thee of the fatness of the land and put strength within thee to overcome nations and kingdoms. But you now think that it was something that you have done within yourselves to have accomplished these things. Woe unto you and your mighty men of valor. For I the L-rd G-d shall bring to nought your strength and ability to overcome. It is I the L-rd G-d that does bring forth kings and nations and it is I that tears them down. You have become an abomination to me. Your priests and seers are as sleeping dogs that have refused to repent and seek me with a whole heart. They minister for their own gain. I the L-rd G-d will bring them to nought and turn them over to believe a lie. I will cause the storms, earthquakes, and floods to become stronger and more frequent. I will send a sword through the land and will cause families to be at odds one to another, killing and being killed. Tumult will be throughout the land and your streets will run with blood. Famine will I send in the land and you will watch as your children die from hunger. I tried over and over again to reason with you o’ nation, but you would have me not. We will now see as you have thought to have become your own god if you can deliver these people in their time of trouble. I will laugh at you and call you a foolish nation. You have forsaken the Living G-d and I have now forsaken you. You will know in the end that I am the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I was in the beginning and so shall I be in the end.

These are not things that are going to take place overnight. It will transpire very slowly as it already has; seemingly as though there has been nothing take place. This nation has become accustomed to all the storms, earthquakes, fires, floods, and everything else that the L-rd has sent to try to get the attention of the church and this nation.

The days that lie ahead for the United States and the world are going to become very trying times. The church is slipping deeper and deeper into a coma from which only a remnant will awaken. It is this remnant that will do the great exploits in these last days.

We must keep the faith and not be drawn into the snare that is now set for all mankind.

The End Time Messenger

June/July 1994



The Church desperately needs to experience once again the unadulterated power of G-d.

The church is once again being transitioned into position for the end-times.

Many of G-d’s saints will miss this transition because most of the church is asleep.





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We hold crusades which see thousands brought to Christ

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Statement of Faith

We of Cradle of Hope do believe that Jesus is the Son of Almighty G-d the Father. He came as the Messiah to become once and for all the perfect sacrifice as the Lamb of G-d. He died for all of mankind’s sin so that all that come to him would have eternal life. Three days after he died he was raised from the dead and now sits at the right hand side of the Father making intersession for all who have received him. We believe in the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues separate from salvation. We believe in healing, deliverance, miracles, signs and wonders. We believe in the use of the five fold ministry and the function of each of these five offices within the church. We believe in the Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. We believe in the working of the spiritual gifts that Apostle Paul identified in I Corinthians the 12th chapter.

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Do you realize that without hate, love couldn't exist?

If everyone was in a perpetual state of love and bliss, it wouldn't be labeled love and bliss. It would be the normal state of affairs.

It's only when put against a backdrop of hate and suffering that love has any meaning whatsoever.

Don't you understand. God can't be one without the other.

The word love is an imaginary construct.

Your feelings are real and you choose to label them as "love".

Can someone do me a favor and post this video for me it's not working for me.


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You cant prove something by taking a snippet from the exact book thats causing my issues. Faith does not depend on prohecy. Furthermore, prohecies in the Bible are open to interperetation since theres no exact times given.

Why werent the Moses Israelites expected to believe based on prohecy alone? They got to witness plagues and free food falling from the heavens. By your logic, God shouldnt have done that. Instead, he should've expected Moses to follow based on prohecy right?

At that time, the whole old testament had already happened. There was plenty of prohecy to fall on...namingly the Old flood and Genesis where it explains death and childbirth and the reasons for those things.
Why did God see fit to overwhelm one time period with miracles while leaving us to fend for ourselves on faith alone?

If God made us with free will then he also has to give us a CHOICE. Right now...there is only evil things in this world. I see no good being done on a grand scale, so what are we supposed to choose when given only one choice?

Idk, for me, I need some sort of proof beyond words from the exact book im on the fence about. Makes no sense to do so otherwise.

This ^^^ very well said, indeed!

As I said earlier, I do not identify myself as 'christian', however, in those words above, I find unity... a common ground upon which much may be built.

Kismet

Excellent thread OP...but sadly, it's wasted on the christians.
The cannot give you the answer you require. Why not? Simply because their belief and faith is something which trancends reason and logic.
They are fully aware that their god no longer behaves as he did in the days of the OT. He decided to change his modus operandi because he sent his son and that should be enough!
Christians HAVE to have faith because there is no other way for an intelligent and otherwise rational human being to assimilate what is for all intents
And purposes a fantasy and a fiction.
I was a christian a long, long time ago but couldn't continue on that intellectually devoid journey.
Religion is for the lazy, the inept and the frightened.
Without the 'fear factor' there would be no christians...