I am a catholic apologist... ask me a question

Don't worry... Just give the demon possessed OP a few minutes for his demon to come up with some ridiculous twisted and distorted answer, and he'll be right with you.

Every church has sinners, and secrets. We have FALLEN from GRACE. Includes you and me. Jesus Doesnt LIE. Crazy Christians who only care about The Book of Revelation Dont Belong in Christianity. Vatican Hill not one of the 7 hills of Rome

The bible gives 11 different attributes of the antichrist church, AKA Mother of harlots.

Obviously, the Roman Catholic church did not even EXIST when the scriptures were written, so the bible simply give all of the characteristics of the harlot. And no other institution on earth fits THEM ALL, except for the Roman papacy.

Now... Like i told the other guy... Do some HONEST research, and all of your questions will seem like child's play.

I haven't see this much anti Catholic bigotry in a long time.

Hmmm...

They say there is no such thing as a "recovered" Catholic. There can only be a "recovering" Catholic.

And sometimes, this recovering process fails.

I assume this is the case.

So sorry.

No religion for me to cling to.

No minister has ever guided me or given me a decent witness. I haven't attended any but our homechurch in the past 10 years...


I gave my life unreservedly Unto God The Father in total brokenness. Had I Known then that doing so would have led me away from catholicism, I likely would have sought another way. God saved my life in every way...


A "logical decision" was not on my agenda. I was desperate for God to Deliver me. Desperate enough to unconditionally make my surrender totally and completely from my heart. Maybe that was the only moment of my life I could have been so honest and broken? All I Know is I Was Led to make my surrender and was completely alone in my empty house when I took action.

Matters not to me why you rationalize the alienation from HIM that you have chosen to embrace.

I would let you Know that you can Know God Directly and Personally and HE Has No Use For the roman catholic church...

Actually I've studied the bible very thorough and I can assure you the It is not speaking of a church. Yes I agree that the teachings revolve around mystery religions from Babylon. But Mystery Babylon and Mother of Harlots is not speaking of the catholic church. I'm a born again christian, now it may symbolise the beast but it's not the Mother of Harlots or Mystery Babylon.

I cannot call this "bigotry."


There is far too much very real history which clearly shows that.

That's right... Every MAINSTREAM church is loaded with sinners and hypocrites.

These are the DAUGHTERS of the MOTHER of Harlots.

All of the so-called "Protestant" denominations that CAME OUT OF THE MOTHER "church". The papacy even CALLS itself the "mother church".

These "churches" still retain many of the erroneous teachings, traditions, and attributes of the Mother, like SUN-day observance, eternal torment, etc...


I feel like I'm trying to convince someone not to commit suicide.

But hey.... Knock yourself out.

Catholics are The MOST Hated Christian Group in the WORLD. Just like the WORLD Hated Jesus, it Hates us. Nobody will persecute YOU for being Christian. YOU will persecute ME oneday for being Catholic.

OP I have read the early church fathers, why is that the earliest church fathers never held your beliefs?

Would you say the RCC is progressive in its ideology ?

The greatest hate always comes from those who no longer attend any type of church service, but instead make their faith fit them. The root of this is a distrust for the physical world and those in it. It's a psychological issue, so do expect a reasoned response.

Yep, so Nobody knew who the Real Jesus was for 2000 years till you Came Along? He said he Would Never Leave. You deciphered the Bible code? Or should I Trust the Catholics who WROTE the Book YOU Read

Don't say no, instead ask questions you don't understand about the faith.

God is going to bring Christianity to unity finally, that's
what current Protestant messages from Heaven state.

The Catholic messages from Heaven are more explicit.
RC is the true faith so Our Lord is gently preparing our
brothers and sisters in Christ to accept the faith.

Let go of small objections, they will disappear if you say "yes" I want that Catholic Eucharist.

Jesus' prayer to the Father is that we all believe the same, a fact you can't object to, it's in the Bible, John 17:21-23. And Paul confirms Our Lord.


"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all say the same thing; and there be no dissensions among you, but that you be perfectly united in one mind and in one judgment."
1Corinthians 1:10

And just WHO the hell said that I "only care about the book of Revelation"?

Sounds to me like you'd LOVE to get rid of the book that unmasks your "church".

That's the EXACT same spirit of your church, which used to KILL people, just for OWNING even a scrap of scripture.

You are sick... You are a murderer, at heart. And you are NOT fooling anyone with an IQ above room temperature.



I value all the Holy scriptures every bit as much as the book of Revelations. However, ONLY the book of Revelations has this SPECIAL blessing attached to it:

"Blessed is he that reads, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand." Revelation 1:3

Read Didache, clement of rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle of Barnabas

Ac, are you non-Catholic? The reason I ask, I haven't
read all of the OP's posts.

Give example....

Make sure your priest don't see you turn those cheeks,or you will be on your knee's praying,thathe don't cum in your eye.

catholicism is a cult. Many, many reasons it is at odds with mainstream Christian dogma and Scripture, but it requires its parishioners to "believe" and "accept".


Jesus is informed that HIS mother and brothers are waiting to see HIM about a matter.

From Matthew 12:
46. While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

48. But he answered and said unto him that told him,
Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

49. And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

50. For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.



All about Doing The Will Of HIS Father....

I have read clement, Ignatius no mention of Mary taking intersession prayers nor her ascending to heaven....
division regarding the real presence of the Eucharist some in favor some not seems like a whole lot of picking in choosing

and also why does the RCC only use quotes that are favorable when they speak of a supposed pope of Rome, but ignore the fact that many more none popes are spoken highly off

Yo... Einstein...

The Catholic "church" didn't WRITE the scriptures. Surely you CANNOT be THAT stupid... Are you?

If so, please tell me now, so that I'll know to simply give up on you... lol.

The catholic church merely decided (canonized) which books were to be included in the bible. But they didn't "write the scriptures".

Paul, James, John, Matthew, Luke, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Solomon, David... People like that (among others) WROTE the scriptures. The Catholic church did NOT writ e the scriptures, you INCREDIBLE ignoramus.

People JUST LIKE YOU, are the very REASON that the scriptures say "Let no many of you become teachers, for you will be held to a stricter judgment".

Trust me. I Love The Book of Revelation. Read it MANY Times. But people like you, think Catholics are The Devil, and are obsessed with it. And point everything to the papacy. I bet since your NOT Catholic you wouldnt know that its ALSO about the Sacrifice of Our Eucharist... The Catholic Church cannot be the Anti Christ

So, I guess you simply aren't used to people who actually stand firm against liars and deceivers... eh, Monkey breath?

You need to get out more.

I thought Stephen King wrote all those books???

Op In scripture Jesus Christ talked about the fruit of the spirit. A good tree does not bear bad fruit. Nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. The Catholic church does not bear the fruits of the spirit. But is more of an Empire rather than the teachings of Jesus Christ and they will bring alot of people because of lack of knowledge to condemnation. They bring in doctrines of demons. They change many things of what God said not to change. Example he said keep the Sabath Holy. The Catholic church says no we will keep Sunday. The Catholic church has used the name of God for war. They have killed millions in the past and persecuted true Christians. They have dirtied the name of Christ. When anyone mentions Christianity there first thaught is Catholicism. Now even Jews who are turning to Christ call themselves Messianic Jews and refuse to be identified with Christianity because of the things the Catholic church has done. They have stained that title to be a Christian is not what catholics do or teach. When I see catholic i don't view them as Christians I mean the church and their teachings not the people. Because the people are innocent and naive.

Lester, this isn't even a theological debate. It's about historical facts and your liberal, nonconformist theology doesnt come on the scene until the sixteenth century.

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You trust Their Judgement to canonize books, you have to trust their judgement on everything. WITHOUT TRUST there is NOTHING. Funny you DIDNT mention PETER who HOLDS the KEYS to Heaven and EARTH. What HE Binds, and Loose

So... Youi like to align yourself with mass murderers just like the OP... eh?

I notice that you don't even TRY to refute what's being said. You simply (like libtards do) just call it "bigotry".

Great argument you have there, Monkey breath!

Oh,boo!fucking!hoo!,cry me a river of blood why don't you.
All you religious fucks give humanity a bad name,so choke on that shit.

Why say, "I want to go to Heaven." Revelation reveals the
Holy Mass offered in Heaven. Everyone in Heaven is Roman
Catholic. There is one faith, come along, you can become
Roman Catholic people.

After the Great Warning (Rev 6:15-17), oh the conversions and totally, in the Millennium, everyone will be Roman Catholic.