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EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

 
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An amazing animation tour of a cell set to music.






For those who want to listen to the educational audio lecture that goes with the animation video, watch this version.







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the Fairytale of Evolution
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Seriously?
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Thanks Lisa, keep it up :)

If it helps or even influences, only one person, and lead them to God and Christ, it'll be all worth it.

If it doesn't, it's still worth it, since your doing his will, by fulfilling the Great Commission.
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Not a 'serious blow'.

The thing is that any problem discovered....science allows for the theory to be re-worked, adapted and ultimately become stronger.

The problem with creation theory is that it is static, it is religious dogma that can never be changed or adapted. It is the way it was written and that's that.

But hey if it works for you, its all good.
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Your right, I see your point no way nature can make that happen, no way at all.

I just can't seem to imagine a way that this could happen. With all of these complex chemicals reactions how could nature have imagined this all up and made it work.

I'll have to get back to you it seems my imagination has broke and I'll need to see a mental health person to get it fixed.

;-)
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One must wonder about the irreducible complexity of the cell. You take away a part, and then it no longer functions.

Since a TV is less complex, and not even conscious, statistically, would it not be more likely that a TV could evolve naturally over time, and spontaneously appear.
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IOW, more stuff about live Lisa*Lisa doesn't understand.
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I five starred this for the animation alone. The Carl Gallups commentary wasn't that compelling. He did a decent job describing the inner organelles of Euraryotic organisms, but didn't real prove that evolution wasn't responsible. Bold claims require bold data to back up his assertions and he failed in that.

I'm a arch-conservative Christian and studied the sciences at the graduate level and so of course I believe some blend of how life began, but of course I know that God made all of Creation. I'm not worried if Evolution was or wasn't the method utilized. I really don't see why people think it is or isn't.

As Christians, if the goal is to witness especially to the scientific intellectuals, then using Science as a teaching tool requires a lot of hard core experts not the average layman. This is why over and over, most Christians actually do a disservice to the Gospel by arguing about Evolution.

You must think on this. The route to altering someone's spiritual journey is almost always through the heart, that is the soul of a person, not the brain. Very few people chose Christianity through intellectual means.

A long time ago, much of homiletics was done by trying to create more and more persuasive arguments, but that doesn't work especially with Post-Moderns. It's a waste of energy and using a very old pre-1950 paradigm.

What does work is showing wonder at creation, for it is inescapably lovely and intricate and only the most cold folks can not sense a Supreme Being by walking through a forest or meadow. Looking into the vast firmament of the myriad stars is one such way, and the upcoming Comet ISON will be a chance to discuss the wonder of a cosmic snowball being hurled in an elyptical orbit past our Earth.

Talk about Jesus. Who can argue with His words of such magnificent love, His altrusim, and honor? These things are compelling about our faith. More time about Jesus and less time about Evolution.

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If we didn't 'evolve', then how come we aren't still living in caves and don't even know what a wheel is etc etc ?
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I five starred this for the animation alone. The Carl Gallups commentary wasn't that compelling. He did a decent job describing the inner organelles of Euraryotic organisms, but didn't real prove that evolution wasn't responsible. Bold claims require bold data to back up his assertions and he failed in that.

I'm a arch-conservative Christian and studied the sciences at the graduate level and so of course I believe some blend of how life began, but of course I know that God made all of Creation. I'm not worried if Evolution was or wasn't the method utilized. I really don't see why people think it is or isn't.

As Christians, if the goal is to witness especially to the scientific intellectuals, then using Science as a teaching tool requires a lot of hard core experts not the average layman. This is why over and over, most Christians actually do a disservice to the Gospel by arguing about Evolution.

You must think on this. The route to altering someone's spiritual journey is almost always through the heart, that is the soul of a person, not the brain. Very few people chose Christianity through intellectual means.

A long time ago, much of homiletics was done by trying to create more and more persuasive arguments, but that doesn't work especially with Post-Moderns. It's a waste of energy and a using a very old pre-1950 paradigm.

What does work is showing wonder at creation, for it is inescapably lovely and intricate and only the most cold folks can not sense a Supreme Being by walking through a forest or meadow. Looing into the vast firmament of the myriad stars is one such way, and the upcoming Comet ISON will be a chance to discuss the wonder of a cosmic snowball being hurled in an elyptical orbit past our Earth.

Talk about Jesus. Who can argue with His words of such magnificent love, His altrusim, and honor. These things are compelling about our faith. More time about Jesus and less time about Evolution.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Well, I guess you'll have to take that up with Jesus Himself since He placed it on my heart to post this here today.

hf
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Your right, I see your point no way nature can make that happen, no way at all.

I just can't seem to imagine a way that this could happen. With all of these complex chemicals reactions how could nature have imagined this all up and made it work.

I'll have to get back to you it seems my imagination has broke and I'll need to see a mental health person to get it fixed.

;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14899339


Psalm 139:13 "You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother's womb."

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Thanks Lisa, keep it up :)

If it helps or even influences, only one person, and lead them to God and Christ, it'll be all worth it.

If it doesn't, it's still worth it, since your doing his will, by fulfilling the Great Commission.
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Matthew 4:19 ""Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men.""

hf

God bless you :)
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Insight into Cellular Consciousness

Though a human is comprised of over fifty trillion cells, there are no physiologic functions in our bodies that were not already pre-existing in the biology of the single, nucleated (eukaryotic) cell. Single-celled organisms, such as the amoeba or paramecium, possess the cytological equivalents of a digestive system, an excretory system, a respiratory system, a musculoskeletal system, an immune system, a reproductive system and a cardiovascular system, among others. In the humans, these physiologic functions are associated with the activity of specific organs. These same physiologic processes are carried out in cells by diminutive organ systems called organelles...................
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[link to www.energetic-medicine.net]

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I five starred this for the animation alone. The Carl Gallups commentary wasn't that compelling. He did a decent job describing the inner organelles of Euraryotic organisms, but didn't real prove that evolution wasn't responsible. Bold claims require bold data to back up his assertions and he failed in that.

I'm a arch-conservative Christian and studied the sciences at the graduate level and so of course I believe some blend of how life began, but of course I know that God made all of Creation. I'm not worried if Evolution was or wasn't the method utilized. I really don't see why people think it is or isn't.

As Christians, if the goal is to witness especially to the scientific intellectuals, then using Science as a teaching tool requires a lot of hard core experts not the average layman. This is why over and over, most Christians actually do a disservice to the Gospel by arguing about Evolution.

You must think on this. The route to altering someone's spiritual journey is almost always through the heart, that is the soul of a person, not the brain. Very few people chose Christianity through intellectual means.

A long time ago, much of homiletics was done by trying to create more and more persuasive arguments, but that doesn't work especially with Post-Moderns. It's a waste of energy and a using a very old pre-1950 paradigm.

What does work is showing wonder at creation, for it is inescapably lovely and intricate and only the most cold folks can not sense a Supreme Being by walking through a forest or meadow. Looing into the vast firmament of the myriad stars is one such way, and the upcoming Comet ISON will be a chance to discuss the wonder of a cosmic snowball being hurled in an elyptical orbit past our Earth.

Talk about Jesus. Who can argue with His words of such magnificent love, His altrusim, and honor. These things are compelling about our faith. More time about Jesus and less time about Evolution.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Well, I guess you'll have to take that up with Jesus Himself since He placed it on my heart to post this here today.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Be careful there, Hon. Yes, I feel inspired by the love of Jesus. That's why I've made 1000 posts on prepping in order to be a servant to the GLP community. That doesn't mean that Jesus Himself put ideas in my head. That borders on pride and on a personal stamp of approval from our Lord and Savior. Don't be brash, for such ideas can make you think that whatever you say is direct communication from Jesus. That would make you a modern day prophet and certainly subject to scrutiny.

I know you mean well, but I wouldn't make such claims.
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I five starred this for the animation alone. The Carl Gallups commentary wasn't that compelling. He did a decent job describing the inner organelles of Euraryotic organisms, but didn't real prove that evolution wasn't responsible. Bold claims require bold data to back up his assertions and he failed in that.

I'm a arch-conservative Christian and studied the sciences at the graduate level and so of course I believe some blend of how life began, but of course I know that God made all of Creation. I'm not worried if Evolution was or wasn't the method utilized. I really don't see why people think it is or isn't.

As Christians, if the goal is to witness especially to the scientific intellectuals, then using Science as a teaching tool requires a lot of hard core experts not the average layman. This is why over and over, most Christians actually do a disservice to the Gospel by arguing about Evolution.

You must think on this. The route to altering someone's spiritual journey is almost always through the heart, that is the soul of a person, not the brain. Very few people chose Christianity through intellectual means.

A long time ago, much of homiletics was done by trying to create more and more persuasive arguments, but that doesn't work especially with Post-Moderns. It's a waste of energy and a using a very old pre-1950 paradigm.

What does work is showing wonder at creation, for it is inescapably lovely and intricate and only the most cold folks can not sense a Supreme Being by walking through a forest or meadow. Looing into the vast firmament of the myriad stars is one such way, and the upcoming Comet ISON will be a chance to discuss the wonder of a cosmic snowball being hurled in an elyptical orbit past our Earth.

Talk about Jesus. Who can argue with His words of such magnificent love, His altrusim, and honor. These things are compelling about our faith. More time about Jesus and less time about Evolution.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Well, I guess you'll have to take that up with Jesus Himself since He placed it on my heart to post this here today.

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Be careful there, Hon. Yes, I feel inspired by the love of Jesus. That's why I've made 1000 posts on prepping in order to be a servant to the GLP community. That doesn't mean that Jesus Himself put ideas in my head. That borders on pride and on a personal stamp of approval from our Lord and Savior. Don't be brash, for such ideas can make you think that whatever you say is direct communication from Jesus. That would make you a modern day prophet and certainly subject to scrutiny.

I know you mean well, but I wouldn't make such claims.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


Hearing and obedience does not equal pride. You're speaking about something that you don't know, that is....my personal relationship with the Lord.

Have a great day.
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Biology is complicated and you will never understand it. Anyway, you will still propagate since you don't have to be intelligent to fuck and bear children.
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this thread is laughable at best
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the Fairytale of Evolution
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Seriously?
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Um yeah- What would you call that hot mess of pseudo-science? lols o.O
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To say evolution is wrong is ridiculous, but I am am in no mood for a theological discussion. You don't even want to understand, so why should I try.
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Thanks for posting these videos Lisa.
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Thanks for posting these videos Lisa.
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Glad you enjoyed it!

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This video proves absolutely nothing. These videos are all the same. They use great big complex explanations of things like cellular activity to try and make the point that this HAD to be a creation because it's just simply too complex for it to be evolution.

Btw, most fairy tales come from books, and the bible is no exception.
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the Fairytale of Evolution
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Seriously?
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Have you ever seen it happen?
Has anyone?
Can it be repeated?

What's the difference between evolution and Santa Claus?
We know what Santa Claus looks like.

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True!

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A fact of existence:

All life reqiures an animating spirit stream...

However, the claim that this stream comes from what the bible descibes is ludicrous...

It is a filter placed into your consciousness, a filter that leads you astray, and bound to the game..
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An amazing animation tour of a cell set to music.






For those who want to listen to the educational audio lecture that goes with the animation video, watch this version.





Psalm 14:1 "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If it were up to people such as yourself, we would never even have the Science you are trying to use(poorly trying to use mind you) to disprove the THEORY of Evolution.

Whether or not the THEORY of Evolution is accurate or not, it doesn't make your literal belief in the fairytales presented in the Babylonian Bible somehow true or accurate either way.
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the Fairytale of Evolution
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Seriously?
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Um yeah- What would you call that hot mess of pseudo-science? lols o.O
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26420358


Wow. So what's your scientific explanation?

Apparently you indulge in the field of actual science...
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Now here is a video that HidinginPlainSight brought to my attention. Now this is a far better way to combine science, wonder, and spirituality in a melange to talk to young people about God. Watch it and see how this is far more persuasive about the beauty of Creation from a cosmic scale to the microscopic scale.


This is an effective witness for Jesus.

You see, we don't have to argue about how God did it. The beauty of Creation, the majesty of it, the wonder of our bodies and how we were formed, all of that is enough to begin a conversation with those who don't believe.

Rather than be hostile to Science, instead learn from it. God gave us the ability to use Reason. It's not a substitution for Faith. Use both for the Gospel of Jesus the Christ.

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To say "science can't figure it out so it must be god" is not a valid argument at all. In fact, it's rather childish and naive. There are limits to human intelligence, and we learn more and more each day. What we don't know today, we very well could tomorrow. Everything that is unexplained to this day, will be eventually, and will be RATIONALLY. I'm sorry, but saying there is a divine creator who made all this is as far from rationality as you can get.
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Otherwise intelligent people are forced to accept
a THEORY that is preposterous on its face.

ROMANS 1
21 Because that, when they knew God,
they glorified him not as God,
neither were thankful;
but became vain in their imaginations,
and their foolish heart was darkened.


22 PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE,
THEY BECAME FOOLS





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