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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped

 
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Title should state: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Update: Dorner still alive.
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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Updated: He is Burnt, No, Wait, We Haven't Found a Body, No, Wait, He was In There, Wait, We Don't Have A Clue WTF is Going On.
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only leaked pic
[link to oi49.tinypic.com]
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Anybody got another link to this pic? This one isnt working for me
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You people are sad lol, you think its all about consipracy and shit, this is about DUE PROCESS, and not killing someone before they are tried in a fair just system, which even you cannot say we have.
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The question is if they didn't burn him up would they of captured him alive with no more fatalities?
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Title should state: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Update: Dorner still alive.
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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Updated: He is Burnt, No, Wait, We Haven't Found a Body, No, Wait, He was In There, Wait, We Don't Have A Clue WTF is Going On.
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only leaked pic
[link to oi49.tinypic.com]
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Anybody got another link to this pic? This one isnt working for me
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LOL this pic is a photoshopped version of the CCTV image of Dorner at the hotel. LOL stop making me laugh.
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What do these 'burners' look like that they used to burn the cabin, are they min versions of these Waco flamethrowers?

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You people are sad lol, you think its all about consipracy and shit, this is about DUE PROCESS, and not killing someone before they are tried in a fair just system, which even you cannot say we have.
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The question is if they didn't burn him up would they of captured him alive with no more fatalities?
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Thats the thing, i highly doubt it. They never even actually mentioned trying to capture him, they just kept stating that they would not let him leave this area. Those chilling words mean alot to me.
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Reports say a single gunshot was heard at 4:20 p.m.
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other reports say the original report was fake, and made by '4:20' MJ smokers

provide source of report pls...
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the USA has officially become like the Ahh-nold movie

The Running Man

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Question:

If ONE man can cause this much confusion in the media and the policeforces (with all their high-tech equipment), what the h*ll will be done if a 'group' of people were involved? By the time anyone figured it out we would all be eating rice, beans or sauerkraut.
Open mind required !

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usa is a pig um er police state lol
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Did anyone catch this: The carjacking victim that he told to "get out and walk...and take your dog" and "I don't want to hurt you"....stated this morning on MSM that he "Called a local deputy on his personal phone after the carjacking" (To notify authorities)

Because after I get carjacked by the most wanted/dangerous man in Amaerica, I don't dial 911....I instead casually call a deputy I know on his personal cell phone.

Again....RIDICULOUS.
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Title should state: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Update: Dorner still alive.
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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Updated: He is Burnt, No, Wait, We Haven't Found a Body, No, Wait, He was In There, Wait, We Don't Have A Clue WTF is Going On.
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hahahahaha, the story changed so quickly, so often last night I had trouble keeping up with it to change the title accordingly. I seriously almost changed it to what you wrote!
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The place burns to the ground and they can't ID the body, but they find his drivers license???
AP source: Calif. driver's license naming Christopher Dorner found in burned cabin with body: [link to apne.ws] -KM
Open mind required !

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Title should state: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Update: Dorner still alive.
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BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms It's Dorner. Updated: He is Burnt, No, Wait, We Haven't Found a Body, No, Wait, He was In There, Wait, We Don't Have A Clue WTF is Going On.
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hahahahaha, the story changed so quickly, so often last night I had trouble keeping up with it to change the title accordingly. I seriously almost changed it to what you wrote!
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rofl
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The place burns to the ground and they can't ID the body, but they find his drivers license???
AP source: Calif. driver's license naming Christopher Dorner found in burned cabin with body: [link to apne.ws] -KM
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LOL like the terrorist passport from 9/11.
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there is no reason to ever believe anything the authorities say.
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The person murdered first had nothing to do with the ordeal OTHER than being the daughter of the man who defended Dorner during the investigation into his allegations. Dorner decided he disliked Mr Quan, so he killed Quans daughter. So her "movements" in the "days and weeks" before are inconsequential. She didn't have contact with him at all. I doubt she even knew who he was. She was a basketball coach worried about her team and her life.. making wedding plans with her fiance.

The officers that were killed...weren't even aware of Dorners corruption claims. They weren't on his 50 people manifesto kill list. One was the fiance of Miss Quan. He was killed because of his relationship with the daughter...he happened to be sitting in the car with her when Dorner ambushed her.

The officer in Riverside...was assigned to guard one of Dorners targets, then got the call that Dorner had been spotted. He went to the scene, his cop car was sprayed with bullets by Dorner. He died doing his job. Had nothing to do with Dorners manifesto.

The officer at Big Bear, died doing his job, had nothing to do with Dorners manifesto.

Dorner had a list of 50 people he felt were corrupt and he wanted to kill. He didn't kill any of them. He managed to kill the DAUGHTER of one of them....and then killed random cops who were out doing their jobs.
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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are 40 people mentioned as targets in Dorner's online manifesto
still being guarded by the LAPD?
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It will be interesting to see if anything happens at that funeral this morning. I think that he planned all of this. I really don't think it's over yet...
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So, basically, tptb have proven to us that they can and will use whatever means necessary to kill anyone they choose to..

recent examples...
Dorner
Sandy Hook
old dude with 5 yr old in bunker

Do we know any of those were "real"?
All we know for sure is what the msm was telling us...which never added up in any of the above cases... media caught lying..

So, tptb sets someone up(or makes someone up), kills whoever they want to further whatever purpose they want..

People die..no trials
documents, manifestos, tweets(from perps)pop up and are then altered...

Shammy gets on msm and pushes gun control and whatever else his nazi ass enjoys at the time..while, interestingly enough, daily events are happening everywhere(school shootings, etc) to make the sheeple think he is right and control is needed..

If no one backs him, no worries, he just implements an EO... .take that, America...

you are being conditioned to believe what they tell you and show you.
You are being conditioned to accept being hunted..if they want you gone, or want to use you to further their agenda, they will make up stories and documents about you and hunt you down and kill you and even your own mother will believe you did it by the time the media gets done.

Maybe there will never actually be "fema" camps...maybe we are already in the camps and just don't realize it, yet..

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Great reasoning and the most sensible post I've read today.
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Lets say Dorner really was in the cabin...is noone outraged that the literally burned a SUSPECT alive? Thats execution without jury trial.
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no I think this was awesome and what he deserved
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And that's why all us freemen are glad you are not American...the problem in America though is that there are too many shitstains like you corrupting our national community.
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The place burns to the ground and they can't ID the body, but they find his drivers license???
AP source: Calif. driver's license naming Christopher Dorner found in burned cabin with body: [link to apne.ws] -KM
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OMG......whew......what a relief they found his license. Now we don't have to worry about IF that was really him or IF he was really there or IF they are all lying to us. I am so glad they managed to find a piece of plastic fully intact after an inferno.
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Did anyone catch this: The carjacking victim that he told to "get out and walk...and take your dog" and "I don't want to hurt you"....stated this morning on MSM that he "Called a local deputy on his personal phone after the carjacking" (To notify authorities)

Because after I get carjacked by the most wanted/dangerous man in Amaerica, I don't dial 911....I instead casually call a deputy I know on his personal cell phone.

Again....RIDICULOUS.
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Uh remember that $1,000,000 reward? He wants it......
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The place burns to the ground and they can't ID the body, but they find his drivers license???
AP source: Calif. driver's license naming Christopher Dorner found in burned cabin with body: [link to apne.ws] -KM
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So, the body is too charred up to identify, but a driver license didn't burn?
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
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No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
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No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
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clappa
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He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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Local news says it will take 2 weeks to identify him. Protection for those on his hit list will stay in place until then. What ever happened to the identifying with teeth or dental records?
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Wow, you know alot! You must have been sitting next to Dorner as he supposedly wrote this manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33142471


No, I've just been paying attention...but I suppose you're one who believes that he didn't really write his manifesto, or there's two manifesto's and Anderson Cooper wrote one of them, or that the police lied and nobody was shot or killed at all, or that Dorner is an actor and never really existed, or that the whole standoff yesterday was filmed by Hollywood and never really even happened.....

It must be liberating to not be bound by rational thought.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


No but considering the fact that there are FOUR completely different released manifestos (all of which are supposed to be the ONE that he wrote) i dunno i tend to use my head and piece things together. Sorry you dont have that ability but lets look at it this way, There have been TONS of killers in american history. Alot of them way way worse than Dorner, But every single one of em was given a trial and due process. This man was not even OFFERED that. He was murdered in a kill operation on live tv. You can deny the LIVE FUCKING POLICE FUCKING AUDIO THAT EVERYONE OF US LISTENED TO, the same audio that has thankfully ended up on thousands of sites by now. NOONE can deny the clips played on live tv by multiple news agencies that you can CLEARLY hear officers yelling to burn the house down. THAT IS NOT HOW THE LAW WORKS ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD. They never even fucking confirmed it was him or not. Noone ever made that confirmation, they just killed whoever that was (Noone can say right now and i wont speculate) and are hoping to christ that its his body they have. Sorry for having my own opinion but i tend not to be brainwashed as others clearly are.
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Yes of course, I'm just a spoon fed dolt eager to greedily eat up the pablum fed to me by the media and the "man" aren't I? Anyone who disagrees is. Or they're a paid shill. Or they're just too dim to "get" what the brilliant theorists here are stating. Look, I believe in some conspiracies and I have an open mind, but I think there's a certain saying that applies here...that old ditty about "have an open mind, but not so open everything falls out".

I'll be honest my opinions about certain things changed this past week. A few days ago I was here with many of the folks in this thread, listening to the Big Bear live scanner. An officer and his dog found tracks which led to a cabin. As the scanner talk went on, the officer noted that there was a light on in the cabin...as he spoke his voice was cracking, you could HEAR the fear in his voice. In fact I believe several people posted about it. "OMG, he sounds SOO scared" "OMG you can hear his voice trembling" and then everyone had a good laugh about it and then listened intently for what would happen next...excitedly. They were really enjoying it. The officer came back and reported that the light was on in cabin because the caretaker lived there. Once again the posts came flying LMAO, WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHAHA ITS JUST THE CARETAKER!!! THAT COP IS A DUMBASS!!! "WHAT A PUSSY" HAHAHAH etc etc.

I began thinking...you know, I don't find this funny. This is a man whose job it is to protect others. (Yeah, I'm sure people here will laugh and scream at that statement...but I'll stand by it.) NOT all cops are bad. NOT all cops are on power trips. This is a man whose job it is to protect others, who is out with his dog, in the dark, searching for an armed man who WANTS NOTHING MORE than to KILL OFFICERS. I found it sort of repugnant that a bunch of people sitting online from the comfort of their homes were laughing because a man was afraid, and mocking him because it turned out to "just" be the cabin caretaker.

Then the whole BS here yesterday with the GLEE when someone reported seeing blood, OMG WHERE CAN I SEE IT TOO? I want to see! And the bitching when the live footage was cut, OMG HOW DARE THEY! CONSPIRACY! I want to see the blood! And as the standoff went on, the jokes and high fives and making fun reached a fever pitch.

Then there were the people listening to the live scanner feeds PROVIDED by the the very LEO agencies they're railing against, and using what they heard as some sort of "evidence". OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT? ... as if they had clandestinely hotwired themselves into the scanner talk and were listening in secret. At one point an officer said "It's going to be a long night" and someone posted OMG HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG FLIGHT!!! And then people went off about DRONES! OMG, DRONES! ROCKETSHIPS! It just became rediculous in my opinion. And I began to see the very erratic and illogical, nay NUTTY thought processes being celebrated here.

I think some people want to act all enlightened and savvy to conspiracies when all they really want is chaos. They feed off of it. The more wild the better, because it FEEDS their imagination.

As for the police burning him out. I'm admittedly NOT a combat veteran nor a trained law enforcement officer, but when someone with guns and tear gas etc is holed up in a cabin making his "last stand"....and just minutes ago he killed another officer, and now he's shooting trying to kill more...I would think burning him out would be a viable option under the CIRCUMSTANCES.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Well, I hope you a terrified my friend because you sir, are in the minority. And in the off chance that the U.S should face anything similar to a collapse, people around the nation are going to turn this country into a fucking madhouse. So if I were you, I would be praying nothing of the like occurs, because when and if it does, the minority (people like you) are going to be eaten alive by the masses that thrive off of chaos.

Because, while you were smart enough to notice how bad people want to destroy the law, you accredit it too much to 'imagination' and not enough to the fact that people (black, white, brown) are tired of having their rights and liberties raped by the ones supposedly appointed to protect them. People are tired of being ripped off, and if given the chance to rebel and destroy the establishment, they will in any way they can. Whether its cheering on the savage behavior of others, or doing crazy shit themselves.

The end is coming, and our society is so morally bankrupt that nothing can stop it anymore. We are beyond the point of no return.
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Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped
He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped
He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
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is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
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The place burned to the ground! His "charred" body....I don't think he had a back pocket left...
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Re: BRKG: Cops Responding To Shootout With Federal Officials, LA Times Confirms Dorner. Update: Dorner May Have Died In Fiery Blaze, Or Escaped
He never emerged from the ruins and hours later a charred body was found in the basement of the burned cabin along with a wallet and personal items, including a California driver's license with the name Christopher Dorner, an official briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.


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It seems a little too "neat" to me....
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


is it really that unreasonable to think he had a wallet in his back pocket???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1585666


C'mon, They said CHARRED BODY. If the skin burned, it had to go through the clothes first. And even if it was on a table, the place burned to the ground, you know how hot that is?
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