Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon | |
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Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 02/25/2013 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PROVE it is disinfo. If it is disinfo then it should be false and you should be able to prove so. I'll bet that you can't and won't even try. Quoting: Weasel_Turbine Go back to school before posting useless blablabla as always. . And you prove me right yet again. You can't prove it is disinfo. You didn't even try. You're a joke. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4126404 United States 02/26/2013 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are really something else. They are in the spreadsheet. Downnload the spreadsheet and look. Stop being a fucking moron. Here is the link. [link to dropcanvas.com] Click on the link. Download the file. Open the file. Read the file. See the formulas. Or go buy the fucking book. Stop asking for things that have already been given to you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4126404 United States 02/26/2013 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are the one who can't download a file and look at it, not me. You want to see how it is done, download the file. Stop being a whinny little child. Everything you have asked for has been provided to you yet you continue to throw a tantrum. All you have done is just prove my point that you are a complete idiot. |
Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 02/26/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are the one who can't download a file and look at it, not me. You want to see how it is done, download the file. Stop being a whinny little child. Everything you have asked for has been provided to you yet you continue to throw a tantrum. All you have done is just prove my point that you are a complete idiot. The problem is he doesn't want to see how it is done. He wants people to say he is right without him actually doing any work. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
DVCMCM User ID: 35528228 Italy 03/03/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are the one who can't download a file and look at it, not me. You want to see how it is done, download the file. Stop being a whinny little child. Everything you have asked for has been provided to you yet you continue to throw a tantrum. All you have done is just prove my point that you are a complete idiot. The problem is he doesn't want to see how it is done. He wants people to say he is right without him actually doing any work. Here's some dumb answers for a dumb man like you: [link to answers.yahoo.com] Happy now? * Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 03/03/2013 10:12 PM |
Weasel_Turbine User ID: 31859349 United States 03/03/2013 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are the one who can't download a file and look at it, not me. You want to see how it is done, download the file. Stop being a whinny little child. Everything you have asked for has been provided to you yet you continue to throw a tantrum. All you have done is just prove my point that you are a complete idiot. The problem is he doesn't want to see how it is done. He wants people to say he is right without him actually doing any work. Here's some dumb answers for a dumb man like you: [link to answers.yahoo.com] Happy now? * Translation: Here's someone else I don't understand. I'll throw it out there with yet another ad hominem because that's all I know. Nevermind that my reply proves the post I quoted right. There's an android app on Amazon called "Moon Phase Pro". It costs lest than a dollar. Using one's location and time (both of which you can adjust) it shows how the Moon appears. It DOES show the apparent tilt. It is a natural, explainable, calculatable phenomenon whether you want to agree or not. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 03/03/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all right here: [link to dropcanvas.com] To sum it all up in a very short paraphrasing of what my spreadsheet does, it first calculates the position of the moon relative to the center of the earth at a given time via the method from the book "Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" written by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront, published in 1991. The lunar tables used to compute geocentric ecliptic coordinates are reproduced within my spreadsheet in their entirety. I then converted the resulting coordinates to topocentric apparent RA and Dec given the observer's location. The formulae for that are extensive and found within the spreadsheet. I then converted from apparent equatorial coordinates to altitude-azimuth coordinates once again given the observer's location and the time (once again these formulae are extensive and are given within the spreadsheet). I then computed equatorial coordinates of the north point of the moon on the equatorial grid (given by the moon's center point equatorial coordinates with declination + .25 degrees). I then converted this to altitude-azimuth coordinates as well. I then computed the position-angle of the illuminated portion of the moon relative to the center-north line of the moon (a function of the sun's position in the sky relative to the moon, also computed within that part of the spreadsheet). Then with the angles in hand for both the angle of the center-north line relative to the horizon as well as the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the center-north line, it was a simple matter to compute the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the horizon. Bada bing, bada bam, and it works beautifully. Last Edited by Astromut on 03/03/2013 10:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28375095 Portugal 03/04/2013 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all right here: [link to dropcanvas.com] To sum it all up in a very short paraphrasing of what my spreadsheet does, it first calculates the position of the moon relative to the center of the earth at a given time via the method from the book "Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" written by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront, published in 1991. The lunar tables used to compute geocentric ecliptic coordinates are reproduced within my spreadsheet in their entirety. I then converted the resulting coordinates to topocentric apparent RA and Dec given the observer's location. The formulae for that are extensive and found within the spreadsheet. I then converted from apparent equatorial coordinates to altitude-azimuth coordinates once again given the observer's location and the time (once again these formulae are extensive and are given within the spreadsheet). I then computed equatorial coordinates of the north point of the moon on the equatorial grid (given by the moon's center point equatorial coordinates with declination + .25 degrees). I then converted this to altitude-azimuth coordinates as well. I then computed the position-angle of the illuminated portion of the moon relative to the center-north line of the moon (a function of the sun's position in the sky relative to the moon, also computed within that part of the spreadsheet). Then with the angles in hand for both the angle of the center-north line relative to the horizon as well as the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the center-north line, it was a simple matter to compute the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the horizon. Bada bing, bada bam, and it works beautifully. [link to media.tumblr.com] |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/04/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all right here: [link to dropcanvas.com] To sum it all up in a very short paraphrasing of what my spreadsheet does, it first calculates the position of the moon relative to the center of the earth at a given time via the method from the book "Lunar tables and programs from 4000 B.C. to A.D. 8000" written by Michelle Chapront-Touzé and Jean Chapront, published in 1991. The lunar tables used to compute geocentric ecliptic coordinates are reproduced within my spreadsheet in their entirety. I then converted the resulting coordinates to topocentric apparent RA and Dec given the observer's location. The formulae for that are extensive and found within the spreadsheet. I then converted from apparent equatorial coordinates to altitude-azimuth coordinates once again given the observer's location and the time (once again these formulae are extensive and are given within the spreadsheet). I then computed equatorial coordinates of the north point of the moon on the equatorial grid (given by the moon's center point equatorial coordinates with declination + .25 degrees). I then converted this to altitude-azimuth coordinates as well. I then computed the position-angle of the illuminated portion of the moon relative to the center-north line of the moon (a function of the sun's position in the sky relative to the moon, also computed within that part of the spreadsheet). Then with the angles in hand for both the angle of the center-north line relative to the horizon as well as the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the center-north line, it was a simple matter to compute the angle of the illuminated portion relative to the horizon. Bada bing, bada bam, and it works beautifully. [link to media.tumblr.com] LOL! |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/04/2013 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. The gif animation went over your head just as much as my calculations did. Quoting: Dr. Astro What are you talking about? Still waiting on your response here big guy. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I guess it went over your head. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/04/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey where did you study, in a cavern? Then, show me where is writen that the moon rotates in about 10 degrees per hour (from the earth)- Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon (Page 5) |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/04/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You again with your crap? let see the answer of your buddie in law if can cite some source or a formula linked in. Hope that his source is not that crappy... So lets check who are the dumbiest between you. The formulae are all right there. I have already presented it. It appears that you are the one too dumb to understand it. |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/04/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know that you are a BOT writing the same funny and nonsense crap. Quoting: DVCMCM Just wait for your buddy if hes really dumber than you. - I'm not a bot. The calculations and formulae are right here dumbass, "my buddy" doesn't have to post anything, it's already all right there: [link to dropcanvas.com] I'm still waiting for you to show where it is wrong. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 03/04/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but your muppet friend astro did not demonstrate nothing but crap as always. Even a monkey should be offended by this. Quoting: DVCMCM Your adverse relationship with reality, and your tourette's, are rather disconcerting. I hope your caretakers are professionals. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10372663 United States 03/04/2013 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but your muppet friend astro did not demonstrate nothing but crap as always. Even a monkey should be offended by this. Quoting: DVCMCM Your adverse relationship with reality, and your tourette's, are rather disconcerting. I hope your caretakers are professionals. GOOD ONE!!!!! |
DVCMCM User ID: 35566774 Italy 03/04/2013 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good what? The shill bots are useless, what about you? Use your brain sometimes instead of being a sheep. Did you ever read in a school book that the moon can rotate several degrees during the day because of astrotard's field rotation bullshit? Or just saw a photo in it like these days with the sidewaymoon with that explanation? . Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 03/04/2013 02:45 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10372663 United States 03/04/2013 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know that you are a BOT writing the same funny and nonsense crap. Quoting: DVCMCM Just wait for your buddy if hes really dumber than you. - I'm not a bot. The calculations and formulae are right here dumbass, "my buddy" doesn't have to post anything, it's already all right there: [link to dropcanvas.com] I'm still waiting for you to show where it is wrong. Doc you need to set your ignore level higher!!!! For some reason this PUKE has a hard on for you and s/he is just trying to get banned so it can blame the ban on you! IGNORE the puke it will eventually go away from lack of watering. Thanks for the info you've been giving! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10372663 United States 03/04/2013 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good what? The shill bots are useless, what about you? Use your brain sometimes instead of being a sheep. Did you ever read in a school book that the moon can rotate several degrees during the day because of astrotard's field rotation bullshit? Or just saw a photo in it like these days with the sidewaymoon with that explanation? . ALL information is good information and when you stop collecting data you lose! Since you seem to tell everyone how the calcs don't or cannot work SHOW US THE MATH or SHUT UP!!!! PROVE YOURSELF to be the genius you think you are!!!! My guess is you can't!!! The good Doctor has put himself into print let's see you do the same with your own theories and formulas or at least use somebody else to prove your point! Other wise your just a retard with a personal grudge!! |
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