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Does comet ISON have a 333 year orbit? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4530000  United States11/17/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not returning, it's hyperbolic, that's what it means. It does not mean you "don't know." that is not what Hyperbolic means. Hyperbolic means a comet has an eccentric orbit and MAY not return. this because its full orbit is not known there is no condition of the word hyperbolic that defines a comet WILL NOT return on an orbit path this is the case with ISON as its origin and start date of current orbit are unknown. please contest this fact with a reply to my other question what is the origin of ISONs current orbit?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4530000 United States11/17/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1014 - Are you denying the historic records of major floods in the UK, Europe and the Eastern USA of that year? Quoting: BadMoonRisen What part of this do you not understand? Cute, but the comet of 1014 didn't impact us, it was observed after its close approach to earth. 1347 - Superstition? I quote from: A general chronological history of the air, weather, seasons, meteors, etc. in sundry places and different times: more particularly for the space of 250 years: together with some of their most remarkable effects on animal (especially human) bodies and vegetables. by Dr Thomas Short Quoting: badYes, I'm sure that's a super reliable account of what happened, complete with blood gushing from the graves of the dead. You literally swallow every bit of superstitious nonsense you read, don't you? 1680 - Are you denying the Great Comet made its appearance? Quoting: badNo, are you trying to put words in my mouth? Yes.  Mr know-it-all now calls historical records 'superstition'. How very desperate are you. BadMoonRisen thinks blood was gushing from the graves of the dead like some Sam Raimi horror film. How very gullible of him. What an ignorant comment. |
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green_girl  User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not returning, it's hyperbolic, that's what it means. It does not mean you "don't know." that is not what Hyperbolic means. Hyperbolic means a comet has an eccentric orbit and MAY not return. this because its full orbit is not known there is no condition of the word hyperbolic that defines a comet WILL NOT return on an orbit path this is the case with ISON as its origin and start date of current orbit are unknown. please contest this fact with a reply to my other question what is the origin of ISONs current orbit? [link to history.nasa.gov] hyperbolic by definition is an open orbit that does not loop back on itself the way other orbits do. ison will be flung far away, never to return again, if it survives the trip around the sun first. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| Wispa User ID: 11082599  United Kingdom11/17/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. |
| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see more lies from a shill. ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 It is the Blue Kachina Astomut and it is only a few weeks until the world will all know. Was it worth it? The blue kachina is a hoax and has nothing to do with the hopis. The Hopi people have gone on record emphatically stating that there are no known hopi legends, they do not share their beliefs with outsiders, and that anyone claiming or that has ever claimed to have special hopi knowledge is a fraud and a liar. Robert sky himself admitted to making the whole thing up in the 60's. You can believe what you like, i am not here to partake in any arguments, i just thought i would share the FACTS with people that would read this thread and your comment and start worrying all over again. No blue kachina, no red one either, according to Hopi chief. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50016578  Australia11/17/2013 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... |
| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... origin oort cloud, destination, plotted for a million years ahead as per astro, effects on Earth, none. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4530000 United States11/17/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro It's not returning, it's hyperbolic, that's what it means. It does not mean you "don't know." that is not what Hyperbolic means. Hyperbolic means a comet has an eccentric orbit and MAY not return. this because its full orbit is not known there is no condition of the word hyperbolic that defines a comet WILL NOT return on an orbit path this is the case with ISON as its origin and start date of current orbit are unknown. please contest this fact with a reply to my other question what is the origin of ISONs current orbit? "In astrodynamics or celestial mechanics a hyperbolic trajectory is a Kepler orbit with the eccentricity greater than 1. Under standard assumptions a body traveling along this trajectory will coast to infinity, arriving there with hyperbolic excess velocity relative to the central body. Similarly to parabolic trajectory all hyperbolic trajectories are also escape trajectories. The specific energy of a hyperbolic trajectory orbit is positive. The shape of a hyperbolic trajectory is a hyperbola." [link to en.wikipedia.org] oh right comets follow orbits a completion of a cycle but not ISON it came from nowhere and is heading for infinity!! science ay! solves all unresolved subjects Dr. Assmuncher and the other full time government-employed graphic artist shills on here are too predictable. They will spend hours and hours (and taxpayer dollars) creating elaborate arguments (which they cut and paste from Wikipedia and their "simulators") only to be shot down every time by Anonymous Caretakers. I love GLP.  |
| Wispa User ID: 11082599 United Kingdom11/17/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50114062 United Kingdom11/17/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... origin oort cloud, destination, plotted for a million years ahead as per astro, effects on Earth, none. oh, so you KNOW what is in that cloud, do you? a cloud of a comet highly suspected from it's light curve to be in the process of breaking up? you KNOW this, do you? or are you just HOPING, like me? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50016578 Australia11/17/2013 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us. alrighty then... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50114062 United Kingdom11/17/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us. we are going right through it's cloud, in mid January. What makes you so confident? in 1014 it is KNOWN, or at the very least strongly suspected that a comet fragment tsunami inundated England and Wales, and probably the Americas too, based on ice core data from Greenland. |
| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Wispa Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... origin oort cloud, destination, plotted for a million years ahead as per astro, effects on Earth, none. oh, so you KNOW what is in that cloud, do you? a cloud of a comet highly suspected from it's light curve to be in the process of breaking up? you KNOW this, do you? or are you just HOPING, like me? it doesnt matter if it breaks up or not. Its path is determined and will not vary enough to cause it to come close to earth. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Wispa Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us. we are going right through it's cloud, in mid January. What makes you so confident? in 1014 it is KNOWN, or at the very least strongly suspected that a comet fragment tsunami inundated England and Wales, and probably the Americas too, based on ice core data from Greenland. ison is very small. fragments would be even smaller. Its tail is just fine dust particles. spread out over millions of miles and very thinly distributed. We have traveled through comet tails many times before. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| awoken1 User ID: 49425616 United Kingdom11/17/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Wispa User ID: 11082599 United Kingdom11/17/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Wispa Do you have proof of those claims ? [link to www.cometison2013.co.uk] Comet ISON’s Eccentricity Any object orbiting the Sun in a closed loop has to have an eccentricity between 0 and 1. If that orbit is in a circular fashion like our own planet’s, its eccentricity will be close to 0. Earth’s eccentricity is around 0.017 which means its orbit is very circular (although not perfect)! However, an object with an eccentricity close to 1 could take tens of thousands of years to complete an orbit as the orbit will be very elliptical. Comet ISON’s eccentricity is 1.000003457 – just ‘over’ 1! If you’ve not already worked this out for yourself, this suggests that its presence in our Solar System is an event that has never happened before and will never happen again. Instead of it having a highly elliptical orbit around our Sun, it seems ISON is just passing through. origin unknown, destination unknown, effects on Earth unknown... The closest approach to Earth is 40 million miles, I think we can safetly say it will not affect us. we are going right through it's cloud, in mid January. What makes you so confident? in 1014 it is KNOWN, or at the very least strongly suspected that a comet fragment tsunami inundated England and Wales, and probably the Americas too, based on ice core data from Greenland. It is nothing new for Earth to pass through a Comets tail, that is where we get meteor showers from. [link to science.nasa.gov] "For several days around January 12, 2014, Earth will pass through a stream of fine-grained debris from Comet ISON," says Wiegert. "The resulting shower could have some interesting properties. According to Wiegert's computer models, the debris stream is populated with extremely tiny grains of dust, no more than a few microns wide, pushed toward Earth by the gentle radiation pressure of the sun. They will be hitting at a speed of 56 km/s or 125,000 mph. Because the particles are so small, Earth’s upper atmosphere will rapidly slow them to a stop. |
| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey greengirl if something does hit in the next 6 weeks or so, are you gunna eat your hat? Quoting: awoken1  if a piece of ison hits us and causes any damage, i will admit i was wrong. We get hit with things all the time. I know people dislike my confidence, but the numbers are there. They know how to plot trajectories. They know how to calculate and predict. They may not know if ison will survive the sun, they may not know how bright it will get, but that does not mean they dont know where it is going and how fast. If it breaks up now it will not change the orbit enough to make any noticeable change here. :malefav: I love this place!! |
| Ford Prefect User ID: 49861128  Brazil11/17/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see more lies from a shill. ISON has a 24,860 year orbit. The Hopis have seen it twice and recorded it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42389013 It is the Blue Kachina Astomut and it is only a few weeks until the world will all know. Was it worth it? 24,860 ago?? And American aboriginals recorded exactly where, Moses DVD collection?? Laugh it up Miller, laugh it up! Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 11/17/2013 10:27 AM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
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| Ford Prefect User ID: 49861128 Brazil11/17/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There will be no internet when they are proven wrong...so nothing to lose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50016578 If nothing happens that will be your face. Last Edited by Ford Prefect on 11/17/2013 10:48 AM It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
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| Sobriquet User ID: 42032529 United States11/17/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ison could be a harbinger of doom or it could be a sign in the heavens to precipitate TEOTWAWKI Doom either way A once in a civilization event 1st day of Hanukkah = Ison reaches Perihelion A sign in the heavens Ejection trajectory. [link to endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com] Said the night wind to the little lamb (young sheep) Do you see what I see? Way up in the sky little lamb Do you see what I see? A star, a star Dancing in the night With a tail as big as a kite With a tail as big as a kite... If Ison is a once in a civilization event, brighter than the Moon and we can see it in broad daylight then it is most likely the sign we've waited for. Of course it could be a simple meaningless coinky-dink like everything else. They say the world has no meaning. just a meaningless big bang. Nothing to see here...move along.  Government... Govern: CONTROL Ment: MIND CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP) "If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!" -- Kentroversy (02/23/07) The light is always stronger than the darkness. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29 |
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| green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada11/17/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can anyone know it's true orbit for the next 40 years?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49894869 We just saw this thing and it's reacting in an strange way You can't predict anything about a comet we know nothing about we already know lots about it. Its orbit can be predicted. After all, it has followed its orbit this far. It will not hit us. :malefav: I love this place!! |
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Dr. Astro (OP)Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States11/17/2013 01:27 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BadMoonRisen thinks blood was gushing from the graves of the dead like some Sam Raimi horror film. How very gullible of him. Quoting: Dr. Astro You obviously don't know much about classic literature. The colorful descriptive language was typical of 18th Century historians. Not that you would know. A minute ago you were defending it as a reliable historical record of what happened, or are you forgetting that? You must think this is a documentary: its not just my questions that are overlooked!! Right, microbes from space were gushing from the graves of the dead. Sounds legit.  |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States11/17/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey dude. I am so tired. I'm having a hard time thinking or concentrating, but I got a question for you. DOES ISON HAVE A 10,000 year orbit? I'll watch video tomorrow. No, it's hyperbolic. why? how do you know it's hyperbolic? where does it come from? with proof please. does it have a 2013 year orbit? Already explained, read the thread. |
