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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Hi Chaol, May I ask if you know what this crop circle means?
[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]
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I'm not sure what those guys meant by it. I believe they were sending a message to the local churches, or maybe a couple of people in those churches.

One of the men has a significant other, or perhaps someone that he just broke up with. That is his way of expressing his frustration. He is probably an atheist, or at least wants to be.

I don't know about the other 2-3 guys, but they probably just helped.
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Either Tom Cruise or my recent ex I reckon. Hehe
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Thank you Chaol. I understand.
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Hi MM, please explain to me your understanding. It might kick start mine into action. Thanks in advance.
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Because the steps to call a specific experience into perspective require logic and because the "steps" are subjective, it is not possible to define the steps ahead of time if the experiece you're trying to call is currently illogical. Ok, so with that in mind, and considering that all is within current perspective, we need only find the logical steps within the current perspective.

We do this in the same way we might remove what may be a newly found fossil from a rock. We are certain that what we want is the fossil, but we are not sure it's shape or condition, so we slowly chip away at the stone to reveal more of it to chip away at, until we hold the fossil in our hand.

Chaol has advised that what comes next will be that which requires the least energy to do so. This is why he says "the path of least resistance."

Hope this helped. hf
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I understand what you're saying. Chaol's interpretation of the crop circle wouldn't have been in my top 5 guesses lol. But it makes sense using your explanation of "subjectivity". I thought it was a hoax (not ET made) and that was as far as I took it but Chaol took it further than just "hoax" and that was the logic I was trying to get.

Crop circles are very intriguing and I want to know why anyone would dedicate so much time and precision to creating something and hide the fact that they created something so cool. Earlier in the thread, Chaol said someone from the future could use a crop circle to describe the world to someone in earlier years or WTTE. If someone else had said it was aliens and that was their path of least resistance, that would make them right too, right? Lol rambling now I know!

I'm still finding my feet. Baby steps...

Thanks again!
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I am reading the Ecsys site with great interest, and I'm tempted to suspect that I'm in some way connected to this alternate universe. When I was a child I created a numerical system that allowed one to represent any numerical value with a single symbol. These symbols had a similar appearance to the EC neuronicons, and were read clockwise.

Thanks for providing the info!
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Mysterious massive 'explosion' on the nexus point? Must be a coincidence.

Thread: Multi agencies searching for an explosion that has been felt in all NW La..E Texas & S Ar.


@6853315: Anything felt in Texas?
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Hi, Cat. Didn't feel a thing.
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I'm not sure what those guys meant by it. I believe they were sending a message to the local churches, or maybe a couple of people in those churches.

One of the men has a significant other, or perhaps someone that he just broke up with. That is his way of expressing his frustration. He is probably an atheist, or at least wants to be.

I don't know about the other 2-3 guys, but they probably just helped.
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Oh, I was expecting something like 'it's a planetary conjuntion where the dream world meets your world' or something like that.
Are we looking at the same pictures?
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Yes, I'm pretty sure we are.

Not all crop forms are extra-dimensional ;)

One would not usually materialize so close to other shapes or lines. Besides that, it doesn't have the proper signature. And besides that, those guys are hilarious!
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This is interesting to me - I'm visiting the this area at the end of the week.
So, Chaol - some crop circles are human-made, yes? Including this one? Why are these guys (who made the cropcircle?) hilarious?
And the 'proper signature' - to show it is extra-dimensional? What would a proper signature be?
Thanks :)
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A number of them are made by humans on the field. Most of these don't get published, of course. There was one this particular group did a couple of months ago in the same area. It was a star of David. They thought it was funny for people to think that aliens would come from a distant world to make a star of David in a field across from Catholic churches. It wasn't all that convincing, so they made a couple of more that were. (I believe the main guy's name is Robert Aberdeen or something very similar. I knew a couple of days ago but it may have changed since then, as time/space goes.)

You may find that people are quite religious in the area. Old and new worlds are colliding. The old, religious, generation, is in ways at odds with the newer, less religious generation.

The proper signature is something that's not difficult to figure out, as the kind of physicality that creates these forms is not the same kind of physicality that the crops are lain with.

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Hi Choal,

A sensory deprivation tank is a sound proof and completely dark tank. It is filled with salt and water heated to the temperature of your body. There is enough salt to float so that your ears are under water, greatly decreasing hearing. When introducing meditation to silence thought then there is nothing being perceived. If it worked perfectly what would the implications of this be?



Can a symbol change? Let's say I had a symbol that represented automated income, could it change into something like a symbol that represents a golden era of happiness for all? Does this mean that I logically view a golden era as the most relative and logical way to achieve some sort of automated income. Or maybe because my goals have changed and I have little use for money that it is allowing me to continue on my path.

Would the golden era of happiness for all have to include some sort of automated income for it to become relative and the symbol to change. Or does automated income have to become irrelevant for it to become relative.

I guess I am just a little confused on how symbols transform.

Is there only one symbol needed initially, or should we always be trying to transform that symbol until the symbol is the representation? In the case of the table to spaceship, at first the symbol for the space ship is the table, but after the table drawer is opened and the science paper is found, does following the path of least resistance mean that the spaceship is now symbolized in the paper.

I believe this is where most people are stuck in ecsys. Perhaps you can elaborate on the path of least resistance and relativity.

Following a symbol I made a few months ago has led me to take a year off of Dental school. I am enjoying the ride but I would really like to take my understanding of ecsys to greater levels.

Any chance for some more advanced topics?
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I'll think for a bit on this, especially your last sentence.
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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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btw, there may be an other nexus point Oct 17, 18, 19.

I'm not sure about this one. Could just be a weak but long one, several, or a long and strong one.

Anything could happen :)
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btw, there may be an other nexus point Oct 17, 18, 19.

I'm not sure about this one. Could just be a weak but long one, several, or a long and strong one.

Anything could happen :)
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What's a nexus point? Good to see you back.
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An analogy would be how we experience a movie.

In a movie still images are put together in a logical order. The images are representations of something else, illusions.

A reality is created not from the illusions (images) but from the relationships between the illusions.

Now imagine all of these images lay on the ground in a random order. Your mind will automatically begin to relate some images together in a way that makes sense to it. (It doesn't matter where you start, like in a dream.) Your mind will then perceive a reality based on the relationships between the first few images. It will also automatically find more images that it thinks should come next. It may be a different kind of logic from someone else, but it makes sense for the narrative you're putting together.

The point here is that you're creating something that seems real by putting two or more things together (that are not real).
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There is a good explanation here:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 8)
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Whoops. Lost your quote.

What's a nexus point? Good to see you back.
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There is a good explanation here:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 8)
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I hesitate to answer these kinds of questions because of their implications. But I will do so anyway. Perhaps we are more ready than we were before.

[snips]

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Chaol,

a quick note to say thank you so much for your reply!
While reading it, the other day, my mind was already spinning with thoughts and more questions... things got clearer in my understanding... then I got swept away during waking time and didn't have time to gather my thoughts.

Ironically, it was a movie set, creating illusion within the illusion...

I couldn't delay further giving you thanks for the great insights. I am a little behind on the thread now, will catch up asap.

And, yes, we are ready!

hf
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btw, there may be an other nexus point Oct 17, 18, 19.

I'm not sure about this one. Could just be a weak but long one, several, or a long and strong one.

Anything could happen :)
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Hmm? Imagine the possibilities!
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Mysterious massive 'explosion' on the nexus point? Must be a coincidence.

Thread: Multi agencies searching for an explosion that has been felt in all NW La..E Texas & S Ar.


@6853315: Anything felt in Texas?
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Yes. Dallas.
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I come bearing gifts, don't know if anyone else has ever found this or seen it, or if Choal is even involved but interesting nonetheless.

[link to ecsys.weebly.com]
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I come bearing gifts, don't know if anyone else has ever found this or seen it, or if Choal is even involved but interesting nonetheless.

[link to ecsys.weebly.com]
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If you browse the threads, you might find that in the author's sig.hf
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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I come bearing gifts, don't know if anyone else has ever found this or seen it, or if Choal is even involved but interesting nonetheless.

[link to ecsys.weebly.com]
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See CatCarel. Very nice job she did.
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I come bearing gifts, don't know if anyone else has ever found this or seen it, or if Choal is even involved but interesting nonetheless.

[link to ecsys.weebly.com]
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See CatCarel. Very nice job she did.
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hf

Neuronics thread and February-May of this one will be up within the next day.
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Mysterious massive 'explosion' on the nexus point? Must be a coincidence.

Thread: Multi agencies searching for an explosion that has been felt in all NW La..E Texas & S Ar.


@6853315: Anything felt in Texas?
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Yes. Dallas.
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damned
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There's me keeping an eye on the Return of the Gods every day, after my last reply there, and here you all are carrying the party on over here!

Good to see you back Chaol, and thanks!
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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Cast your vote for the big erection!

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Cast your vote for the big erection!

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...big erection?
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Haha! Erection, sure, exactly.
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Cast your vote for the big erection!

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...big erection?
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"r"s are so difficurt to pronounce!

(edit: I mean "rl"s)

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Cast your vote for the big erection!

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...big erection?
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"r"s are so difficurt to pronounce!

(edit: I mean "rl"s)
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Terr me about it!
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There's me keeping an eye on the Return of the Gods every day, after my last reply there, and here you all are carrying the party on over here!

Good to see you back Chaol, and thanks!
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Who are we? Who am I?

Throughout the years, my world have interacted with yours on various levels.

In this period, 2001-2013*, as my world and yours more closely combine physically, there are a few things I'd like to share.

We inspired people like da Vinci, Newton, Einstein and millions more unknowns. The Egyptians built their largest pyramid because of us. We influenced nomads to learn the basics of language and science. Ever watched Star Trek or played a video game?

We've even pretended to be 'flying saucers' even though such things are ridiculous to us. (All in good spirits, though.)

And we've done it all without interacting directly with Earth. Most of us don't even know about Earth. (No need to get into how now. Call it kosmosis, or dream world influence, or kitchen utensils.)

Recently, however, we've taken a more active role. Or, should I say that I took it upon myself to find out more about this-thing-that-we-influence.

I first arrived many years ago, in the womb. Since then, I've been doing some influencing of my own in every area from business to design to sports to biology and more. I've made friends along the way and invited another from my own world. It's not an important role. Not many people know about your world.

As your world and my world are "uniting" (for lack of a better expression) there will be more and more correlation between the two. (Along with countless other worlds, but that's an other story all together.) So, lately I've been a bit more active.

Some of us call it the Singularity, Great Shift, Rapture, and lots of other names that we make up when our mind wanders (or, shall I say, when ours minds seek to interpret one-another's thoughts).

From your side you'll experience things that you haven't before, or had just a taste of in your "physical" world.

In the past few years my partner and I have created entire sub-worlds within your world to create things you could never imagine. We've also introduced the idea that a planetary body can carry an electrical discharge (our apologies for creating the TU24 hysteria, but sometimes it's the only way to get people to notice), gotten Obama elected (again, our apologies.. it'll make more sense later), and countless other things we wouldn't want to discuss over a proper meal.

The second act of Ecsys might look like a confusing mound of gibberish but it has actually been carefully planned for over 20 years as a way to introduce the third stage of Ecsys.

In the second act we've prepped entire populations for disruption. (Radioactivity is conscious, wouldn't you know. So is electromagnetism.) We also approached a little-known Russian astronomer named Leonid Elenin and showed him something that has been there for hundreds of thousands of years. (We liked his familiar-sounding name, I guess.)

Why is Elenin important? It represents our world, X. It is not X per se but close enough physically that there's no practical difference.

We are master disruptors. We are what you'd mistakenly call Gods, or "Elohim" in your old tongues. Planet X in your conspiracy theories. The symbol of the cross (or swastika if you're of Buddha), the lotus pose, et cetera. Near-countless.

But, again, most of us have never even heard of (or cared about) Earth. It's a small glimmer in a vast sea of reflections.

We call ourselves simply X. We are the four corners of the Earth (which, ironically, we told you about). We are of the 1, 2, 3, 5. We are of the dream world, but to us we simply are beings free of physical time and space.

More accurately, we do not dream of time and space like you do.

To us, you are in the dream world.

And by meeting us, essentially that which dreams of you, once again you are waking up as we did a few hundred years ago. You will see that our world (your world) has been there all along.

Some of you will crash right into us, some of you will pass right through us, and yet some will never know that we existed.

2 years into Ecsys' introduction, and now it is time for Act III.

Are you ready for our anniversary?

*Note: the dates aren't significant. They're just things we've made up that eventually become your reality. It could have easily been 502-640.
 Quoting: Chaol

I KNOW you, and I know your world. It didnt really hit me until a few minutes ago! Your kids always know when I arrive, they know me very well...my dreams are a portal to your world, I have been there many times...and I am always loved when I come, the love u guys give to me is unprecedented...tell them all that I never forget, and I love you ALL very dearly!





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