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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I AM NOT GOD

I AM NOT JESUS

I AM NOTHING

I AM LESS THAN USELESS

I AM JUST A LIGHT THAT SEE A NEW LIGHT COMING

I SAW THAT LIGHT AFTER MY DEATH

I RETURNED TO TELL YOU A NEW LIGHT COMES

I REALLY WISH AND WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT ME

BUT I IS NOT IMPORTANT

YOU ARE

I AM YOU THE SAME AS YOU IS I

YOU ARE THE LIGHT TO

I DIED A NDE THEN CAME BACK

I SAW THE LIGHT ON AFTER MY DEATH

IN SPIRIT AND SPOKE WITH THE LIGHT

THE LIGHT SAID YOU ARE THE 8TH SON

BORN AT THE 8TH HOUSE

14 10 64 IS YOUR BIRTH DATE

ALL THE SIGNS OF 8 ARE IN YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW

SYNCHRONICITY AND HARMONY ARE RULING YOUR LIFE PATH OF 8

INFINITY IS YOU

BUT YOU ARE NO GOD OR MESSIAH

JUST A LOWLY SPIRIT

THAT RETURNED IT HIS BODY

EVEN THE PEOPLE WITH DARKNESS IN THEIR SOULS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN I

I AM OF NO USE TO YOU OR ANY ONE OR ANYTHING

LESS THAN USELESS HE TOLD ME I WAS

BUT HE LOVES ME

AND LOVES YOU ALL

HE WANTS TO COME BACK IN TO YOUR HEARTS

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SPOKE TO HIM AND HE STAYED WITH YOU

NOW HE AS GONE OUT OF EVERY ONES HEARTS

HE WANTS TO COME BACK

SO HES SENDING A NEW LIGHT AND WANTS YOU ALL TO SEE IN A NEW LIGHT AND

SEE THE WORLD IN A NEW LIGHT
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I don't know if it's related, but something very interesting happened:

In the place where I live, insects are very rare to find, but this year in particular, a lot of small spiders are appearing. In the last week I saw a roach. The funny thing is that I was walking to the kitchen and didn't saw it, wich would be something difficult to happen. I just saw it the moment I was coming back and it was actually dead, like I've stomped it. It was like the roach appeared exactly under my shoes. But I can't said with 100% confidence that the roach wasn't there in the first time.

So let's continue...

A few days later, after I just spotted a spider, I was thinking that I had already saw spiders and a roach, so, from the types of animals that I ever saw around here, small geckos, flies and a small type of centipede that we call here 'lacraia' were missing from the group. So, yesterday, I woke up and a fly was flying in the bathroom. Later, I was going to my grandmother's house and for the first time after years I saw a small gecko outside . I almost couldn't believe it.

To complete the story, just now, I was watching a movie and at the moment that the movie ended, I spotted a small 'lacraia' coming from behind the TV in the wall.

Everything happened in 2 weeks.

Coincidence?
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I don't know if it's related, but something very interesting happened:

In the place where I live, insects are very rare to find, but this year in particular, a lot of small spiders are appearing. In the last week I saw a roach. The funny thing is that I was walking to the kitchen and didn't saw it, wich would be something difficult to happen. I just saw it the moment I was coming back and it was actually dead, like I've stomped it. It was like the roach appeared exactly under my shoes. But I can't said with 100% confidence that the roach wasn't there in the first time.

So let's continue...

A few days later, after I just spotted a spider, I was thinking that I had already saw spiders and a roach, so, from the types of animals that I ever saw around here, small geckos, flies and a small type of centipede that we call here 'lacraia' were missing from the group. So, yesterday, I woke up and a fly was flying in the bathroom. Later, I was going to my grandmother's house and for the first time after years I saw a small gecko outside . I almost couldn't believe it.

To complete the story, just now, I was watching a movie and at the moment that the movie ended, I spotted a small 'lacraia' coming from behind the TV in the wall.

Everything happened in 2 weeks.

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Gespenst





Are you using a GENIUS...and esp. in the past 2 weeks? Or, doing the Dream exercise Chaol gave us? Are you saying all this started up when Chaol left?
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I don't know if it's related, but something very interesting happened:

In the place where I live, insects are very rare to find, but this year in particular, a lot of small spiders are appearing. In the last week I saw a roach. The funny thing is that I was walking to the kitchen and didn't saw it, wich would be something difficult to happen. I just saw it the moment I was coming back and it was actually dead, like I've stomped it. It was like the roach appeared exactly under my shoes. But I can't said with 100% confidence that the roach wasn't there in the first time.

So let's continue...

A few days later, after I just spotted a spider, I was thinking that I had already saw spiders and a roach, so, from the types of animals that I ever saw around here, small geckos, flies and a small type of centipede that we call here 'lacraia' were missing from the group. So, yesterday, I woke up and a fly was flying in the bathroom. Later, I was going to my grandmother's house and for the first time after years I saw a small gecko outside . I almost couldn't believe it.

To complete the story, just now, I was watching a movie and at the moment that the movie ended, I spotted a small 'lacraia' coming from behind the TV in the wall.

Everything happened in 2 weeks.
 Quoting: Gespenst

Gosh, Gespenset. I think this is the longest post you have ever made. Your English is excellent!

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Gespenst

Conservation of energy. We perceive what is the easiest to see.

Things are getting weirder, aren't they? Lots of surprises in this new land.
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Perhaps more of a coincidence would be if you had a dream about it, because both threads are on this site ;)

You will dream of it tonight and when you wake up it will make more sense.

But that won't be coincidence, either. It'll just be my putting the suggestion into your thought patterns :)
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Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)

I had a vivid dream in which I was sitting at a computer monitor, with a man standing behind me asking questions. I was using the computer to search for an answer, then would post it to a thread, where others were also involved in the discussion. The man would make a comment regarding my answer, then ask another question, which I then researched. Several times, he reached past my shoulder to point to the computer screen.

The next day, I remembered the dream in vivid detail, but did not know it was a dream until I went to the Internet IRL to try to find the online conversation from the night before. That is when I realized I had dreamt all of it!

During the approach of Elinin, I had a couple weeks' worth of dreams of being amongst a crowd of people, and that same man was there too. Other people on this thread posted about having similarly busy dreams of crowds, but I couldn't comment because I was banned at the time.

Those are two incidents that I will tell you about.
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This is fascinating, Kath. And are you teasing us a bit here, in that last remark ;)

Oh I hate it when my quotes go wrong!

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I AM NOT GOD

I AM NOT JESUS

I AM NOTHING

I AM LESS THAN USELESS

I AM JUST A LIGHT THAT SEE A NEW LIGHT COMING

I SAW THAT LIGHT AFTER MY DEATH

I RETURNED TO TELL YOU A NEW LIGHT COMES

I REALLY WISH AND WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT ME

BUT I IS NOT IMPORTANT

YOU ARE

I AM YOU THE SAME AS YOU IS I

YOU ARE THE LIGHT TO

I DIED A NDE THEN CAME BACK

I SAW THE LIGHT ON AFTER MY DEATH

IN SPIRIT AND SPOKE WITH THE LIGHT

THE LIGHT SAID YOU ARE THE 8TH SON

BORN AT THE 8TH HOUSE

14 10 64 IS YOUR BIRTH DATE

ALL THE SIGNS OF 8 ARE IN YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW

SYNCHRONICITY AND HARMONY ARE RULING YOUR LIFE PATH OF 8

INFINITY IS YOU

BUT YOU ARE NO GOD OR MESSIAH

JUST A LOWLY SPIRIT

THAT RETURNED IT HIS BODY

EVEN THE PEOPLE WITH DARKNESS IN THEIR SOULS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN I

I AM OF NO USE TO YOU OR ANY ONE OR ANYTHING

LESS THAN USELESS HE TOLD ME I WAS

BUT HE LOVES ME

AND LOVES YOU ALL

HE WANTS TO COME BACK IN TO YOUR HEARTS

REMEMBER WHEN YOU SPOKE TO HIM AND HE STAYED WITH YOU

NOW HE AS GONE OUT OF EVERY ONES HEARTS

HE WANTS TO COME BACK

SO HES SENDING A NEW LIGHT AND WANTS YOU ALL TO SEE IN A NEW LIGHT AND

SEE THE WORLD IN A NEW LIGHT
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Hello!
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This is fascinating, Kath. And are you teasing us a bit here, in that last remark ;)
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I just don't want to be a gossip. There is somebody who wants to remain incognito and I don't want to tread on his wishes. Besides that, the information holds more interest for me than does the deliverer of the information.

Oh I hate it when my quotes go wrong!
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Set your quotes free! lol! Let them run with the wind!
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I did the genius last year, to alter my body shape. I thought it wasn't working so I lost interest. Just realised now, that my body shape has changed in the way I wanted it to! Seems like a year has passed, however.....
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I'd invite anyone that has had results with their GENIUS to feel free to share here if you feel to do so.

I notice people will post and say the Genius works, but then kind of back off from telling more about it.
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I posted this a bit ago, when Chaol was with us.
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This is fascinating, Kath. And are you teasing us a bit here, in that last remark ;)
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I just don't want to be a gossip. There is somebody who wants to remain incognito and I don't want to tread on his wishes. Besides that, the information holds more interest for me than does the deliverer of the information.

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Still intrigued!
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Oh I hate it when my quotes go wrong!
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Set your quotes free! lol! Let them run with the wind!
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You know, this whole business about enslaving electronics is fascinating.
What do you think would happen if I told my car's electrons they were free to run with the wind? Somehow I sense that herein lies my own freedom ;) But... do I dare yet?
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Are you using a GENIUS...and esp. in the past 2 weeks? Or, doing the Dream exercise Chaol gave us? Are you saying all this started up when Chaol left?
 Quoting: Unit3


I tried the exercise for 2 nights with no success, apparently.

I'm pretty sure that everything happened after I created the symbol, so it happened in less than 1 week, not 2 weeks like I said lol.

Gosh, Gespenset. I think this is the longest post you have ever made. Your English is excellent!

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Gespenst

Conservation of energy. We perceive what is the easiest to see.

Things are getting weirder, aren't they? Lots of surprises in this new land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Thank you! :D

Yep. I just hope that the insects surprises don't continue to happen hahahaha
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Hi, All

I will be heading out on November 17th to return on December 17th.

All posts will be responded to before then :)

thanks for your patience
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Awwwww Chaol, we will miss you!
Thanks for your patience you kind surgeon! hf
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Hello everyone :)
I'm glad that this thread is still going strong. I haven't been here for a while as I have been busy changing perspectives. The Genius works! Neuronics works! Bye bye UK! I love Canada so far hf
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So you were living in the UK, created a GENIUS to move to Canada, and now you're there? Wow!

So, how long did all this take and would you share your plan with us? Any details you are willing to share, I'd love to hear about it. For example, did it take more than one Genius plan to accomplish all of this? Does it include other people? A new job? More money? How did you decide where in Canada? I could ask more but I'm sure you get the idea.

Thanks and congratulations. rockon

Edit: I just checked the date of your last post in the UK which was ll/13/12. It is now 11/30/12 and you are posting from Canada. When you did your last post, did you have any idea your Genius was going to work this fast?
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Hi Unit3, I am amazed myself because I didn't plan this at all. It just happened following a series of events. I already had my ecsys model for my millions. Then due to some personal reasons, it was suggested that I could give Canada a shot. I created a genius model for a successful Canada mission soon after this. I also created some neuronics strings to help me along the way. Money wasn't really a problem as I had some savings. As I interacted with my new representations, everything just fell into place.

I started planning for the trip in October and here I am in Canada with a whole new life ahead of me. I am absolutely certain it wouldn't have been so smooth had I not used my model and neuronics. But that's in my own humble opinion.

I really can't believe everything I've achieved in such a short period of time and I really owe it to Chaol and his insights.
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I still don't know HOW the genius works but it does for me. I keep thinking back to we perceive that which takes the least energy to perceive. When I create any genius model, I don't know how what's going to happen will happen. I just know and believe that it will happen due to the genius model I created. I follow the rules as specified by Chaol since he's the expert and it works. It's not magic though but it does work.

I must have some issues with my expectations of millions or even with my genius model for millions itself since that hasn't manifested yet but I am not broke so maybe the genius is working. Chaol did say it could take up to 3 months to see a shift. I played my first Canadian lotto on Saturday so fingers crossed (I know I just did something not right there). Focusing on just one aspect or outcome is a no-no but I can't help it!

Oh well, I'm happy with what I have achieved using ec so far and can't wait to see what next is in store.

Everyone is doing it the right way, you just have to trust that you are hf
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Are you using a GENIUS...and esp. in the past 2 weeks? Or, doing the Dream exercise Chaol gave us? Are you saying all this started up when Chaol left?
 Quoting: Unit3


I tried the exercise for 2 nights with no success, apparently.

I'm pretty sure that everything happened after I created the symbol, so it happened in less than 1 week, not 2 weeks like I said lol.

Gosh, Gespenset. I think this is the longest post you have ever made. Your English is excellent!

Coincidence?
 Quoting: Gespenst

Conservation of energy. We perceive what is the easiest to see.

Things are getting weirder, aren't they? Lots of surprises in this new land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Thank you! :D

Yep. I just hope that the insects surprises don't continue to happen hahahaha
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And did you create the symbol along with space, interaction and logic? (The whole GENIUS plan or just the symbol?)

Anyway, I would say your perspective has changed. Maybe it was the symbol, maybe it's been your work with the dream exercise. Something has changed it, right? ;o) And if you prefer it leave insects out, maybe play with your GENIUS plan, heh! I know I would!
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Awwwww Chaol, we will miss you!
Thanks for your patience you kind surgeon! hf
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Hello everyone :)
I'm glad that this thread is still going strong. I haven't been here for a while as I have been busy changing perspectives. The Genius works! Neuronics works! Bye bye UK! I love Canada so far hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28653346




So you were living in the UK, created a GENIUS to move to Canada, and now you're there? Wow!

So, how long did all this take and would you share your plan with us? Any details you are willing to share, I'd love to hear about it. For example, did it take more than one Genius plan to accomplish all of this? Does it include other people? A new job? More money? How did you decide where in Canada? I could ask more but I'm sure you get the idea.

Thanks and congratulations. rockon

Edit: I just checked the date of your last post in the UK which was ll/13/12. It is now 11/30/12 and you are posting from Canada. When you did your last post, did you have any idea your Genius was going to work this fast?
 Quoting: Unit3


Hi Unit3, I am amazed myself because I didn't plan this at all. It just happened following a series of events. I already had my ecsys model for my millions. Then due to some personal reasons, it was suggested that I could give Canada a shot. I created a genius model for a successful Canada mission soon after this. I also created some neuronics strings to help me along the way. Money wasn't really a problem as I had some savings. As I interacted with my new representations, everything just fell into place.

I started planning for the trip in October and here I am in Canada with a whole new life ahead of me. I am absolutely certain it wouldn't have been so smooth had I not used my model and neuronics. But that's in my own humble opinion.

I really can't believe everything I've achieved in such a short period of time and I really owe it to Chaol and his insights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28653346




Amazing. You must be good with the GENIUS and strings. After you make a string, do you speak it several times a day or what?

Had you been to Canada before? Have relatives or friends there? Have you sold or moved everything that was in the UK? I can hardly get my head around this and it didn't even happen to me, LOL!

Anyway, thanks for telling us about it. If you ever feel like posting your GENIUS or your string, I'd love to see them.
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I still don't know HOW the genius works but it does for me. I keep thinking back to we perceive that which takes the least energy to perceive. When I create any genius model, I don't know how what's going to happen will happen. I just know and believe that it will happen due to the genius model I created. I follow the rules as specified by Chaol since he's the expert and it works. It's not magic though but it does work.

I must have some issues with my expectations of millions or even with my genius model for millions itself since that hasn't manifested yet but I am not broke so maybe the genius is working. Chaol did say it could take up to 3 months to see a shift. I played my first Canadian lotto on Saturday so fingers crossed (I know I just did something not right there). Focusing on just one aspect or outcome is a no-no but I can't help it!

Oh well, I'm happy with what I have achieved using ec so far and can't wait to see what next is in store.

Everyone is doing it the right way, you just have to trust that you are hf
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I didn't know it can take up to 3 months for a shift. That's really helpful. I'll try to be more content in my waiting for something to happen, heh!!!
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I still don't know HOW the genius works but it does for me. I keep thinking back to we perceive that which takes the least energy to perceive. When I create any genius model, I don't know how what's going to happen will happen. I just know and believe that it will happen due to the genius model I created. I follow the rules as specified by Chaol since he's the expert and it works. It's not magic though but it does work.

I must have some issues with my expectations of millions or even with my genius model for millions itself since that hasn't manifested yet but I am not broke so maybe the genius is working. Chaol did say it could take up to 3 months to see a shift. I played my first Canadian lotto on Saturday so fingers crossed (I know I just did something not right there). Focusing on just one aspect or outcome is a no-no but I can't help it!

Oh well, I'm happy with what I have achieved using ec so far and can't wait to see what next is in store.

Everyone is doing it the right way, you just have to trust that you are hf
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I didn't know it can take up to 3 months for a shift. That's really helpful. I'll try to be more content in my waiting for something to happen, heh!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


I discovered this thread in the 2nd half of this year and only started on the genius models about 2 months ago. I'm quoting what Chaol said about the transition period below:

"When the relationships change you experience this change over time. You transition from one state to another much the same way you don't just appear in a dream but you transition by preparing for bed, putting on certain clothes or laying in a certain place, etc. It is possible to realize you are dreaming now (and we sometimes do, momentarily) but it is not something in our cognitive framework. You don't just go from one state to another. It's shocking. You need a logical transition.

So, even though a relationship may change more or less instantly it may take some time for you to perceive of the change in your physically-oriented environment.

(For many people here, this relationship transition period is about 2-3 months I think.)

It is not necessary to change your thoughts so much. Many of your thoughts have 'externalizations' that you can see. Changing a thought could be as easy as doing something physical. In the big scheme of things, there is little difference. (Do realize, however, that what is most relative to you is closest to you and your experience. Your body is most relative as are your thoughts. It is your close experience. But changing something else may trigger a new kind of relationship which may allow you, eventually, to perceive the kind of things you want)"
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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Something that I have forgotten to do is to respect the logic of others. I keep forgetting that all answers are pertinent to the geometry of the environment from which they emerge. That all of this is an exploration of a value, viewed from every possible angle.

I want to remember this to the point that it is unshakeable and a solid part of my thought process. The resistance to things with which I disagree is too uncomfortable for me and I feel that I am missing something important when I do.
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I still don't know HOW the genius works but it does for me. I keep thinking back to we perceive that which takes the least energy to perceive. When I create any genius model, I don't know how what's going to happen will happen. I just know and believe that it will happen due to the genius model I created. I follow the rules as specified by Chaol since he's the expert and it works. It's not magic though but it does work.

I must have some issues with my expectations of millions or even with my genius model for millions itself since that hasn't manifested yet but I am not broke so maybe the genius is working. Chaol did say it could take up to 3 months to see a shift. I played my first Canadian lotto on Saturday so fingers crossed (I know I just did something not right there). Focusing on just one aspect or outcome is a no-no but I can't help it!

Oh well, I'm happy with what I have achieved using ec so far and can't wait to see what next is in store.

Everyone is doing it the right way, you just have to trust that you are hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28653346





I didn't know it can take up to 3 months for a shift. That's really helpful. I'll try to be more content in my waiting for something to happen, heh!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


I discovered this thread in the 2nd half of this year and only started on the genius models about 2 months ago. I'm quoting what Chaol said about the transition period below:

"When the relationships change you experience this change over time. You transition from one state to another much the same way you don't just appear in a dream but you transition by preparing for bed, putting on certain clothes or laying in a certain place, etc. It is possible to realize you are dreaming now (and we sometimes do, momentarily) but it is not something in our cognitive framework. You don't just go from one state to another. It's shocking. You need a logical transition.

So, even though a relationship may change more or less instantly it may take some time for you to perceive of the change in your physically-oriented environment.

(For many people here, this relationship transition period is about 2-3 months I think.)

It is not necessary to change your thoughts so much. Many of your thoughts have 'externalizations' that you can see. Changing a thought could be as easy as doing something physical. In the big scheme of things, there is little difference. (Do realize, however, that what is most relative to you is closest to you and your experience. Your body is most relative as are your thoughts. It is your close experience. But changing something else may trigger a new kind of relationship which may allow you, eventually, to perceive the kind of things you want)"
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Thank you. Something I realized as I read this is I also have a reverse thing going on too. There are things I don't want to change.

I have several relatives, all in their late 80's and early 90's. I enjoy them very much. I have often thought that something I am doing is keeping them here. Because really, they probably should have left by now, or at least some of them. Their trials are difficult, yet somehow, each of them makes it through to a brighter day, at least in some way.

They inspire me as I watch them and they have a tenderness that brings tears to my eyes. I have even felt guilty for keeping them here even though I can't say I know how I am doing so, if in fact that is the case. Since it's my perspective, I guess it is.

I know Chaol says this:

"If some of your perceptions are good while others are bad, then it is difficult to see your reality as a single perspective."

This is the challenge for me.
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
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Something that I have forgotten to do is to respect the logic of others. I keep forgetting that all answers are pertinent to the geometry of the environment from which they emerge. That all of this is an exploration of a value, viewed from every possible angle.

I want to remember this to the point that it is unshakeable and a solid part of my thought process. The resistance to things with which I disagree is too uncomfortable for me and I feel that I am missing something important when I do.
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Amen.

I saw a post in GLP, where someone described his/her internal process when this happens. S/he said the process eventually became automatic in the subconscious, because of the repetitiveness of the exercise.

The best to you and thanks for the reminder.
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our reality is based on our belief systems. LITERALLY

Since everything is within our perspective the only way to expand it is to see that which we don't see.

I believe the easiest way to do this is question that which we resist.

We resist something because we don't understand it from our perspective.

For example, Someone getting angry for being cut off in traffic.

Anger is their default... their reality.

However if instead they practiced analyzing that which they resist they might think:

1. perhaps someone is on the floor dying and he is in a great hurry
2. Maybe he didn't see me

Getting angry is basically assuming you know the situation from your current perspective. It is egotistical and an impossibility and thus not inclusive with a higher perspective.

When we make assumption like that we collapse possibility waves.

By getting angry that, the person is possibility assuming several things like:

A that the person cut him on on purpose
B that it negatively affects him
C that the driver doesn't have good reason

If he acted in joy and understood that the universe will always deliver us the best possible thing for us from the highest possible perspective he might realize something like:

1. that by being 1 minute later he walks past a new girl in his office, and see her drop a book which happens to be his favorite and they get talking. go out for coffee. Fall in love and marry.

2. That he narrowly avoided an accident by that car putting him 1 minute behind where he normally would be

3. That he doesn't have time to stop at his regular coffee shop so stops at mcdonalds and wins 1 million dollars in the monopoly game.


This is true for every interaction you have!!!

You are creating your mind set based on your current conscious and unconscious beliefs.

I have lately been taking boring tasks and thinking and practice "unlogic". "what would I have to believe this task is fun." When you start thinking like this you can change your beliefs about anything you dislike.

Hitler was a complete dick, BUT he created such a dark mindset that the world has pretty much put an end to obvious large scale war conflict, and has gave a contrast of such deep evil that it allows the rest of humanity to reach an even greater level of happiness now. He allowed us to see that which we are not, greatly expanding our perspectives and allowing a higher good. (law of relationships)

So this good or evil thing is really subjective based on how we our willing to structure our perspective.

We have the power to create the reality we want, we just have to define it. As you begin to "unlogic" things you, like me, will begin to see everything brighter. You will begin to have a sense of unlimited potential, and you will draw into your reality more of the kind of things that you truly want to see.
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Representation: Name published in Forbes 400 List

symbol: american silver eagle
wrapped in swim suit padding
tapped together with orange duct tape
embelished with orange pipe cleaner
embelishment taped on with blue insulation tape
uncovered padding scented with eucalyptus essential oil.

Space: coffee table

interaction: people, objects, and animals interfacing with it.

Logic:
When awake on time I will squeeze it.
When break record working out will raise and drop onto table.
when I meet calorie goal for the day will smell.
Every time I Make 10 thousand USD will do dance with symbol in my hand.
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Since everything is within our perspective the only way to expand it is to see that which we don't see.
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This is all very inspiring, Dodec! I am going to take all of it to heart. Thank you for this analysis.
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"If some of your perceptions are good while others are bad, then it is difficult to see your reality as a single perspective."

This is the challenge for me.
 Quoting: Unit3

A challenge for me too!

When I think of good vs. bad, I see the yin/yang symbol, where half of a circle is white (with a spot of black in it), and the other half is black (with a spot of white in it). Instead of the stark borders of the symbol, I see instead a shading effect of white dissipating into black, and black merging into white.

It seems to be a very instructive symbol of how both black and white combine to form one perspective.
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Our worlds are very similar, but we do not possess the same sense of time.

Let's take a ready example and say that we are going out for coffee and I tell you that if you purchase an orange juice, instead, it will save your life.

Someone may immediately consider why orange juice is better than coffee and raise arguments about how their coffee isn't so bad and won't kill them.

However, how something is expressed is not as important as the interactions that it influences.

It could be, instead, that purchasing the orange juice saves you 30 seconds which will (as you may call it) start a chain of reactions which will put you in the right place at the right time when there is an accident on your way home.

You probably won't see how this happens unless your sense of time is more independent from your perspective.

It is not about consequences any more than karma is involved.

As an example of karma, let's say that you were leading a nice, stress-free life without anything really bad happening. One day you got angry and ended up hitting someone. The next day something your pet dog died.

You may link the dead dog to your anger the day before.

More accurately though, the geometry of relationships changed when (possibly) the value of your anger was expressed it it. In the new perspective the dog was not compatible.

Depending on the perspective, it could be that the dog disappears from it. You make a logical narrative to explain the disappeared dog in your reality. It could be that he runs away, someone else is taking care of him or she is at the vet, she died, etc.

So in this way there's no consequence of your action, before or after. At ever moment the entire universe is created anew (for lack of better terms).

In this way right or wrong are irrelevant. What matters are the values of what exist.

Where one person sees "right" or "wrong" another person may see the value, and calculate these values.

Our sense of time may be different, but there's a lot more calculation going on here than is realized. With a 'giant computer' it is not so difficult. It goes beyond right/wrong, good/bad, stupid/smart, high/low, and manipulates reality itself for my own purposes.

As I show the values in my perspective (you) how to do the same thing so do our realities become more logically related. (Again, for my own purposes.)

It could be, instead, that I let you drink your coffee and then you wonder why I didn't save your life if I knew this was "going to happen". It would appear that my senses are rusty. But I am looking at the bigger picture and the totality of my perspective.

Right/wrong are temporary and stand on shaky ground. Why would anyone want to believe in them?
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3


The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
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Just want to say thank you chaol for providing the genius. It is true. It has worked for me finally today, I started around 1-2 weeks ago.

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.
(My symbol was a hand image drawn of a va jay jay, that I did)
2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.
(I drew the va jay jay on a small peice of lined white hand notebook paper and placed it inside my coat jacket pocket)
3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity
Placed the folded symbol into my inside coat jacket
5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

(open and folded it multiple times in a certain way, and reopened it the same way every 2-3 days)
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Just want to say thank you chaol for providing the genius. It is true. It has worked for me finally today, I started around 1-2 weeks ago.

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.
(My symbol was a hand image drawn of a va jay jay, that I did)
2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.
(I drew the va jay jay on a small peice of lined white hand notebook paper and placed it inside my coat jacket pocket)
3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity
Placed the folded symbol into my inside coat jacket
5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

(open and folded it multiple times in a certain way, and reopened it the same way every 2-3 days)
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I also occasionally visualized my symbol and thoughts. Thank you once again, and thank you for the supporters of ec. Very neat stuff.
And thank you once more for being a great person.

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