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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I still don't know HOW the genius works but it does for me. I keep thinking back to we perceive that which takes the least energy to perceive. When I create any genius model, I don't know how what's going to happen will happen. I just know and believe that it will happen due to the genius model I created. I follow the rules as specified by Chaol since he's the expert and it works. It's not magic though but it does work.

I must have some issues with my expectations of millions or even with my genius model for millions itself since that hasn't manifested yet but I am not broke so maybe the genius is working. Chaol did say it could take up to 3 months to see a shift. I played my first Canadian lotto on Saturday so fingers crossed (I know I just did something not right there). Focusing on just one aspect or outcome is a no-no but I can't help it!

Oh well, I'm happy with what I have achieved using ec so far and can't wait to see what next is in store.

Everyone is doing it the right way, you just have to trust that you are hf
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I didn't know it can take up to 3 months for a shift. That's really helpful. I'll try to be more content in my waiting for something to happen, heh!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


I discovered this thread in the 2nd half of this year and only started on the genius models about 2 months ago. I'm quoting what Chaol said about the transition period below:

"When the relationships change you experience this change over time. You transition from one state to another much the same way you don't just appear in a dream but you transition by preparing for bed, putting on certain clothes or laying in a certain place, etc. It is possible to realize you are dreaming now (and we sometimes do, momentarily) but it is not something in our cognitive framework. You don't just go from one state to another. It's shocking. You need a logical transition.

So, even though a relationship may change more or less instantly it may take some time for you to perceive of the change in your physically-oriented environment.

(For many people here, this relationship transition period is about 2-3 months I think.)

It is not necessary to change your thoughts so much. Many of your thoughts have 'externalizations' that you can see. Changing a thought could be as easy as doing something physical. In the big scheme of things, there is little difference. (Do realize, however, that what is most relative to you is closest to you and your experience. Your body is most relative as are your thoughts. It is your close experience. But changing something else may trigger a new kind of relationship which may allow you, eventually, to perceive the kind of things you want)"
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Thank you. Something I realized as I read this is I also have a reverse thing going on too. There are things I don't want to change.

I have several relatives, all in their late 80's and early 90's. I enjoy them very much. I have often thought that something I am doing is keeping them here. Because really, they probably should have left by now, or at least some of them. Their trials are difficult, yet somehow, each of them makes it through to a brighter day, at least in some way.

They inspire me as I watch them and they have a tenderness that brings tears to my eyes. I have even felt guilty for keeping them here even though I can't say I know how I am doing so, if in fact that is the case. Since it's my perspective, I guess it is.

I know Chaol says this:

"If some of your perceptions are good while others are bad, then it is difficult to see your reality as a single perspective."

This is the challenge for me.
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
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Something that I have forgotten to do is to respect the logic of others. I keep forgetting that all answers are pertinent to the geometry of the environment from which they emerge. That all of this is an exploration of a value, viewed from every possible angle.

I want to remember this to the point that it is unshakeable and a solid part of my thought process. The resistance to things with which I disagree is too uncomfortable for me and I feel that I am missing something important when I do.
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Amen.

I saw a post in GLP, where someone described his/her internal process when this happens. S/he said the process eventually became automatic in the subconscious, because of the repetitiveness of the exercise.

The best to you and thanks for the reminder.
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our reality is based on our belief systems. LITERALLY

Since everything is within our perspective the only way to expand it is to see that which we don't see.

I believe the easiest way to do this is question that which we resist.

We resist something because we don't understand it from our perspective.

For example, Someone getting angry for being cut off in traffic.

Anger is their default... their reality.

However if instead they practiced analyzing that which they resist they might think:

1. perhaps someone is on the floor dying and he is in a great hurry
2. Maybe he didn't see me

Getting angry is basically assuming you know the situation from your current perspective. It is egotistical and an impossibility and thus not inclusive with a higher perspective.

When we make assumption like that we collapse possibility waves.

By getting angry that, the person is possibility assuming several things like:

A that the person cut him on on purpose
B that it negatively affects him
C that the driver doesn't have good reason

If he acted in joy and understood that the universe will always deliver us the best possible thing for us from the highest possible perspective he might realize something like:

1. that by being 1 minute later he walks past a new girl in his office, and see her drop a book which happens to be his favorite and they get talking. go out for coffee. Fall in love and marry.

2. That he narrowly avoided an accident by that car putting him 1 minute behind where he normally would be

3. That he doesn't have time to stop at his regular coffee shop so stops at mcdonalds and wins 1 million dollars in the monopoly game.


This is true for every interaction you have!!!

You are creating your mind set based on your current conscious and unconscious beliefs.

I have lately been taking boring tasks and thinking and practice "unlogic". "what would I have to believe this task is fun." When you start thinking like this you can change your beliefs about anything you dislike.

Hitler was a complete dick, BUT he created such a dark mindset that the world has pretty much put an end to obvious large scale war conflict, and has gave a contrast of such deep evil that it allows the rest of humanity to reach an even greater level of happiness now. He allowed us to see that which we are not, greatly expanding our perspectives and allowing a higher good. (law of relationships)

So this good or evil thing is really subjective based on how we our willing to structure our perspective.

We have the power to create the reality we want, we just have to define it. As you begin to "unlogic" things you, like me, will begin to see everything brighter. You will begin to have a sense of unlimited potential, and you will draw into your reality more of the kind of things that you truly want to see.
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Representation: Name published in Forbes 400 List

symbol: american silver eagle
wrapped in swim suit padding
tapped together with orange duct tape
embelished with orange pipe cleaner
embelishment taped on with blue insulation tape
uncovered padding scented with eucalyptus essential oil.

Space: coffee table

interaction: people, objects, and animals interfacing with it.

Logic:
When awake on time I will squeeze it.
When break record working out will raise and drop onto table.
when I meet calorie goal for the day will smell.
Every time I Make 10 thousand USD will do dance with symbol in my hand.
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Since everything is within our perspective the only way to expand it is to see that which we don't see.
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This is all very inspiring, Dodec! I am going to take all of it to heart. Thank you for this analysis.
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"If some of your perceptions are good while others are bad, then it is difficult to see your reality as a single perspective."

This is the challenge for me.
 Quoting: Unit3

A challenge for me too!

When I think of good vs. bad, I see the yin/yang symbol, where half of a circle is white (with a spot of black in it), and the other half is black (with a spot of white in it). Instead of the stark borders of the symbol, I see instead a shading effect of white dissipating into black, and black merging into white.

It seems to be a very instructive symbol of how both black and white combine to form one perspective.
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Our worlds are very similar, but we do not possess the same sense of time.

Let's take a ready example and say that we are going out for coffee and I tell you that if you purchase an orange juice, instead, it will save your life.

Someone may immediately consider why orange juice is better than coffee and raise arguments about how their coffee isn't so bad and won't kill them.

However, how something is expressed is not as important as the interactions that it influences.

It could be, instead, that purchasing the orange juice saves you 30 seconds which will (as you may call it) start a chain of reactions which will put you in the right place at the right time when there is an accident on your way home.

You probably won't see how this happens unless your sense of time is more independent from your perspective.

It is not about consequences any more than karma is involved.

As an example of karma, let's say that you were leading a nice, stress-free life without anything really bad happening. One day you got angry and ended up hitting someone. The next day something your pet dog died.

You may link the dead dog to your anger the day before.

More accurately though, the geometry of relationships changed when (possibly) the value of your anger was expressed it it. In the new perspective the dog was not compatible.

Depending on the perspective, it could be that the dog disappears from it. You make a logical narrative to explain the disappeared dog in your reality. It could be that he runs away, someone else is taking care of him or she is at the vet, she died, etc.

So in this way there's no consequence of your action, before or after. At ever moment the entire universe is created anew (for lack of better terms).

In this way right or wrong are irrelevant. What matters are the values of what exist.

Where one person sees "right" or "wrong" another person may see the value, and calculate these values.

Our sense of time may be different, but there's a lot more calculation going on here than is realized. With a 'giant computer' it is not so difficult. It goes beyond right/wrong, good/bad, stupid/smart, high/low, and manipulates reality itself for my own purposes.

As I show the values in my perspective (you) how to do the same thing so do our realities become more logically related. (Again, for my own purposes.)

It could be, instead, that I let you drink your coffee and then you wonder why I didn't save your life if I knew this was "going to happen". It would appear that my senses are rusty. But I am looking at the bigger picture and the totality of my perspective.

Right/wrong are temporary and stand on shaky ground. Why would anyone want to believe in them?
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3


The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
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Just want to say thank you chaol for providing the genius. It is true. It has worked for me finally today, I started around 1-2 weeks ago.

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.
(My symbol was a hand image drawn of a va jay jay, that I did)
2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.
(I drew the va jay jay on a small peice of lined white hand notebook paper and placed it inside my coat jacket pocket)
3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity
Placed the folded symbol into my inside coat jacket
5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

(open and folded it multiple times in a certain way, and reopened it the same way every 2-3 days)
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Just want to say thank you chaol for providing the genius. It is true. It has worked for me finally today, I started around 1-2 weeks ago.

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.
(My symbol was a hand image drawn of a va jay jay, that I did)
2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.
(I drew the va jay jay on a small peice of lined white hand notebook paper and placed it inside my coat jacket pocket)
3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity
Placed the folded symbol into my inside coat jacket
5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

(open and folded it multiple times in a certain way, and reopened it the same way every 2-3 days)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23462202


I also occasionally visualized my symbol and thoughts. Thank you once again, and thank you for the supporters of ec. Very neat stuff.
And thank you once more for being a great person.
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our reality is based on our belief systems. LITERALLY

Since everything is within our perspective the only way to expand it is to see that which we don't see.

I believe the easiest way to do this is question that which we resist.

We resist something because we don't understand it from our perspective.

For example, Someone getting angry for being cut off in traffic.

Anger is their default... their reality.

However if instead they practiced analyzing that which they resist they might think:

1. perhaps someone is on the floor dying and he is in a great hurry
2. Maybe he didn't see me

Getting angry is basically assuming you know the situation from your current perspective. It is egotistical and an impossibility and thus not inclusive with a higher perspective.

When we make assumption like that we collapse possibility waves.

By getting angry that, the person is possibility assuming several things like:

A that the person cut him on on purpose
B that it negatively affects him
C that the driver doesn't have good reason

If he acted in joy and understood that the universe will always deliver us the best possible thing for us from the highest possible perspective he might realize something like:

1. that by being 1 minute later he walks past a new girl in his office, and see her drop a book which happens to be his favorite and they get talking. go out for coffee. Fall in love and marry.

2. That he narrowly avoided an accident by that car putting him 1 minute behind where he normally would be

3. That he doesn't have time to stop at his regular coffee shop so stops at mcdonalds and wins 1 million dollars in the monopoly game.


This is true for every interaction you have!!!

You are creating your mind set based on your current conscious and unconscious beliefs.

I have lately been taking boring tasks and thinking and practice "unlogic". "what would I have to believe this task is fun." When you start thinking like this you can change your beliefs about anything you dislike.

Hitler was a complete dick, BUT he created such a dark mindset that the world has pretty much put an end to obvious large scale war conflict, and has gave a contrast of such deep evil that it allows the rest of humanity to reach an even greater level of happiness now. He allowed us to see that which we are not, greatly expanding our perspectives and allowing a higher good. (law of relationships)

So this good or evil thing is really subjective based on how we our willing to structure our perspective.

We have the power to create the reality we want, we just have to define it. As you begin to "unlogic" things you, like me, will begin to see everything brighter. You will begin to have a sense of unlimited potential, and you will draw into your reality more of the kind of things that you truly want to see.
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375




Nice. Always good to look into what we resist, for sure.

Chaol also says to expand our perspective by doing things differently than we usually do (that's why I started posting about my personal life here.......I have never done that before.) and you are doing it with the boring tasks.

HE also says to feel things we have never felt before...so I'm sure working on that by doing things I've never done before.


Your good/evil sentence is very nice. I've flat-lined a lot of my good/evil perceptions, but I still have some pretty strong preferences. If I didn't, how would I know what I desire so my Genius can be employed? j/k

What can I say....I'm a work in progress. heh!

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Our worlds are very similar, but we do not possess the same sense of time.

Let's take a ready example and say that we are going out for coffee and I tell you that if you purchase an orange juice, instead, it will save your life.

Someone may immediately consider why orange juice is better than coffee and raise arguments about how their coffee isn't so bad and won't kill them.

However, how something is expressed is not as important as the interactions that it influences.

It could be, instead, that purchasing the orange juice saves you 30 seconds which will (as you may call it) start a chain of reactions which will put you in the right place at the right time when there is an accident on your way home.

You probably won't see how this happens unless your sense of time is more independent from your perspective.

It is not about consequences any more than karma is involved.

As an example of karma, let's say that you were leading a nice, stress-free life without anything really bad happening. One day you got angry and ended up hitting someone. The next day something your pet dog died.

You may link the dead dog to your anger the day before.

More accurately though, the geometry of relationships changed when (possibly) the value of your anger was expressed it it. In the new perspective the dog was not compatible.

Depending on the perspective, it could be that the dog disappears from it. You make a logical narrative to explain the disappeared dog in your reality. It could be that he runs away, someone else is taking care of him or she is at the vet, she died, etc.

So in this way there's no consequence of your action, before or after. At ever moment the entire universe is created anew (for lack of better terms).

In this way right or wrong are irrelevant. What matters are the values of what exist.

Where one person sees "right" or "wrong" another person may see the value, and calculate these values.

Our sense of time may be different, but there's a lot more calculation going on here than is realized. With a 'giant computer' it is not so difficult. It goes beyond right/wrong, good/bad, stupid/smart, high/low, and manipulates reality itself for my own purposes.

As I show the values in my perspective (you) how to do the same thing so do our realities become more logically related. (Again, for my own purposes.)

It could be, instead, that I let you drink your coffee and then you wonder why I didn't save your life if I knew this was "going to happen". It would appear that my senses are rusty. But I am looking at the bigger picture and the totality of my perspective.

Right/wrong are temporary and stand on shaky ground. Why would anyone want to believe in them?
 Quoting: Chaol

 Quoting: Gespenst





TY, once again!!!!!


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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3


The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
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Did you turn left or right when you did the 360?


How do you connect a Genius to a nexus point?

And how do you ascertain a nexus point? If we create our perspective, don't we also create the nexus point?
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Gespenst, here's the NASA announcement we've been waiting on...magnetic highway at the end of the Solar System....


[link to www.rawstory.com]
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not long until chaol returns. Take this opportunity to have not-chaol answer your questions.
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3


The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
 Quoting: Not-Chaol 1466035




Did you turn left or right when you did the 360?


How do you connect a Genius to a nexus point?

And how do you ascertain a nexus point? If we create our perspective, don't we also create the nexus point?
 Quoting: Unit3

I turned left.

The nexus point is a built in portion of the genius. All possibility (anything used for space, energy or capacity) is a nexus point. The size of the nexus point can vary. New York City on 9/11 = huge nexus. Your bathroom at 2:36 am yesterday = small nexus point.
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Gespenst, here's the NASA announcement we've been waiting on...magnetic highway at the end of the Solar System....


[link to www.rawstory.com]
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Even though we have learned that space is not physical, this article about reaching the very edges of our solar system still excites my neurons. Look at what we have here with the Voyagers I and II: symbols, logic, interaction and possibilty. All of the gods are involved.
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Gespenst, here's the NASA announcement we've been waiting on...magnetic highway at the end of the Solar System....


[link to www.rawstory.com]
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Even though we have learned that space is not physical, this article about reaching the very edges of our solar system still excites my neurons. Look at what we have here with the Voyagers I and II: symbols, logic, interaction and possibilty. All of the gods are involved.
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But isn't everything physical?
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But isn't everything physical?
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A paradox!

If anything can be perceived, then it is physical.

However, no thing is physical. There is no thing there.
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From page 1 of this thread:
* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.
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(There is no physicality.)
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Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)
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Basically, we are not human.

You are already non-physical.

Physicality does not actually exist.
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Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality) (Page 2)
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1) When you got off the escalator at the mall and saw the popcorn, was the popcorn to your right?

2) What areas would you say your expertise is in? I ask this so I know what questions to ask you. I have many, heh!
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The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
 Quoting: Not-Chaol 1466035




Did you turn left or right when you did the 360?


How do you connect a Genius to a nexus point?

And how do you ascertain a nexus point? If we create our perspective, don't we also create the nexus point?
 Quoting: Unit3

I turned left.

The nexus point is a built in portion of the genius. All possibility (anything used for space, energy or capacity) is a nexus point. The size of the nexus point can vary. New York City on 9/11 = huge nexus. Your bathroom at 2:36 am yesterday = small nexus point.
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So is Chaol building in the nexus for his Nov 17 trip every year?

You turned left? I could swear that for an instant, I was there and saw the popcorn, but I saw it to my right.
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Gespenst, here's the NASA announcement we've been waiting on...magnetic highway at the end of the Solar System....


[link to www.rawstory.com]
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Even though we have learned that space is not physical, this article about reaching the very edges of our solar system still excites my neurons. Look at what we have here with the Voyagers I and II: symbols, logic, interaction and possibilty. All of the gods are involved.
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I still don't understand why the website says:

"Your physical body is mostly non-human.

Emotions like happiness and loneliness, diseases like cancer and schizophrenia, and abilities like cognition and communication are actually infections we get from animals, food, the environment, outer space, and other people."


Sounds to me like there is physicality (but we are evolving away from it) and also there is something outside of a single perspective. Otherwise, why would one create an infection from outer space?

Could Chaol possibly believe in a Higher Power but not call it that or not recognize it? Has anyone ever asked Chaol who created him? (I have a question waiting on him in another post earlier in this thread. I believe he does believe in some kind of outer influence....after all, he says it just happened that he met his girlfriend....what made it "just happen?:)
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Fun questions, IMHO, Unit3.

Something I have been pondering for the past couple days:

We perceive so as to feel as if we exist, right? We form relationships in order to feel that we are alive.

But, there is the "Nothing" that is beyond perception and to which existence is irrelevant. We are told that the Nothing is everything.

Well, then, who invented perception? The Nothing? But, It does not need to perceive in order to exist, right?

I am thinking that there is some intermediate force that springs from "the Nothing" and which then creates, I suppose, the non-physical.
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The popcorn was in front of me because I actually did a 360 to stop and laugh.

My specialty is in the Genius model and ecsys language.
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Did you turn left or right when you did the 360?


How do you connect a Genius to a nexus point?

And how do you ascertain a nexus point? If we create our perspective, don't we also create the nexus point?
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I turned left.

The nexus point is a built in portion of the genius. All possibility (anything used for space, energy or capacity) is a nexus point. The size of the nexus point can vary. New York City on 9/11 = huge nexus. Your bathroom at 2:36 am yesterday = small nexus point.
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So is Chaol building in the nexus for his Nov 17 trip every year?

You turned left? I could swear that for an instant, I was there and saw the popcorn, but I saw it to my right.
 Quoting: Unit3


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Fun questions, IMHO, Unit3.

Something I have been pondering for the past couple days:

We perceive so as to feel as if we exist, right? We form relationships in order to feel that we are alive.

But, there is the "Nothing" that is beyond perception and to which existence is irrelevant. We are told that the Nothing is everything.

Well, then, who invented perception? The Nothing? But, It does not need to perceive in order to exist, right?

I am thinking that there is some intermediate force that springs from "the Nothing" and which then creates, I suppose, the non-physical.
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That is what Chaol says...we won't feel we exist unless we have perceptions. And, according to Chaol, he forgets, just like we do, that his perceptions aren't real.

I did find myself once in what I felt was Chaol....and it was a sort of nothingness but with a feeling of awareness. (I hope that makes sense.)

I have tried many times to feel Nothing...but there is always something...texture, peace, awareness...something to observe.

It's kind of like, how does the uncreated have creation?
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Did you turn left or right when you did the 360?


How do you connect a Genius to a nexus point?

And how do you ascertain a nexus point? If we create our perspective, don't we also create the nexus point?
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I turned left.

The nexus point is a built in portion of the genius. All possibility (anything used for space, energy or capacity) is a nexus point. The size of the nexus point can vary. New York City on 9/11 = huge nexus. Your bathroom at 2:36 am yesterday = small nexus point.
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So is Chaol building in the nexus for his Nov 17 trip every year?

You turned left? I could swear that for an instant, I was there and saw the popcorn, but I saw it to my right.
 Quoting: Unit3


You are my mirror image unit.
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Wow! That sent chills up.
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....and it was a sort of nothingness but with a feeling of awareness. (I hope that makes sense.)
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It makes perfect sense to me. I even wrote about the same sensation a ways back in this thread. I call it "The Big Quiet".

I have tried many times to feel Nothing...but there is always something...texture, peace, awareness...something to observe.
 Quoting: Unit3

We really cannot even discuss a "Nothing", because as soon as we think of it, it becomes "something".

It's kind of like, how does the uncreated have creation?
 Quoting: Unit3

!!!
How, indeed?
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Has anyone ever asked Chaol who created him?
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Okay, okay. Look. There is something that is, like, on the tip of my tongue.

Consciousness is the result of at least two things interacting, right? Consciousness is the geometry formed when two things relate.

You are conscious, right? I am, too, I guess. I mean, here I am! Here you are!

This means that at least two things are interacting, forming a consciousness which we are calling "me".

When Chaol is in our world, he is conscious (or appears to be! lol). That means that something is interacting with something else in order to form a geometry that results in a consciousness that we are calling "Chaol".

So, what is Chaol when he is NOT intersecting this world? What are WE when we are NOT intersecting this world?

Could it be that we are also what Chaol is? Could THAT be the "other you" that is waiting for us?

Chaol has asked very plainly, "If I am you, then what am I?"

Well...
Well...
Aaargh.





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