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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Have you read all the threads? There is an abundance of material. He does not call himself a creator.
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Yes I have already in an instant, just completed inter-connecting all possible relationships.

He is not.

I apologise for any inconvenience.
 Quoting: 0verlord




NP. It was fun to have you here. I am still curious what drew you here, though.

He would say we are all gods, though. He just doesn't use the word creator. We each have perception but we don't really create. We perceive.
 Quoting: U3


My original few posts on my popular thread were flawed, if you read the whole thread you will gain a great deal of information.

I answer that statement in my thread

What drew me here were the words "alternate universe".
 Quoting: 0verlord



Well, it's very interesting because someone here thought you might be Chaol.

Btw, I realize I might explain what's going on here today because it's such an interesting experience we are having right now.

Chaol, the one you can't get a reading on, started these threads. He has been posting for about 3 1/2 years and teaching us how we perceive.

He left 2/11/13 and we have been waiting his return since then. Today, another Chaol posted who has just found out his higher self (Chaol who started these threads), has been using his mind and physical life to be here. Today, you noticed the thread as well.

So, it's been quite a day for us around here.

I will visit your thread. Why were your original posts flawed, if you don't mind my asking?
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Yes I have already in an instant, just completed inter-connecting all possible relationships.

He is not.

I apologise for any inconvenience.
 Quoting: 0verlord




NP. It was fun to have you here. I am still curious what drew you here, though.

He would say we are all gods, though. He just doesn't use the word creator. We each have perception but we don't really create. We perceive.
 Quoting: U3


My original few posts on my popular thread were flawed, if you read the whole thread you will gain a great deal of information.

I answer that statement in my thread

What drew me here were the words "alternate universe".
 Quoting: 0verlord



Well, it's very interesting because someone here thought you might be Chaol.

Btw, I realize I might explain what's going on here today because it's such an interesting experience we are having right now.

Chaol, the one you can't get a reading on, started these threads. He has been posting for about 3 1/2 years and teaching us how we perceive.

He left 2/11/13 and we have been waiting his return since then. Today, another Chaol posted who has just found out his higher self (Chaol who started these threads), has been using his mind and physical life to be here. Today, you noticed the thread as well.

So, it's been quite a day for us around here.

I will visit your thread. Why were your original posts flawed, if you don't mind my asking?
 Quoting: U3


I was used to obtain the attention of you, what I stated I did not fully mean.

If you visit it, read all my posts to its full extent. Then make an informative conclusion.

Yes that is why I was altered to this thread. Disturbance on Earth.
Also had a meeting.
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NP. It was fun to have you here. I am still curious what drew you here, though.

He would say we are all gods, though. He just doesn't use the word creator. We each have perception but we don't really create. We perceive.
 Quoting: U3


My original few posts on my popular thread were flawed, if you read the whole thread you will gain a great deal of information.

I answer that statement in my thread

What drew me here were the words "alternate universe".
 Quoting: 0verlord



Well, it's very interesting because someone here thought you might be Chaol.

Btw, I realize I might explain what's going on here today because it's such an interesting experience we are having right now.

Chaol, the one you can't get a reading on, started these threads. He has been posting for about 3 1/2 years and teaching us how we perceive.

He left 2/11/13 and we have been waiting his return since then. Today, another Chaol posted who has just found out his higher self (Chaol who started these threads), has been using his mind and physical life to be here. Today, you noticed the thread as well.

So, it's been quite a day for us around here.

I will visit your thread. Why were your original posts flawed, if you don't mind my asking?
 Quoting: U3


I was used to obtain the attention of you, what I stated I did not fully mean.

If you visit it, read all my posts to its full extent. Then make an informative conclusion.

Yes that is why I was altered to this thread. Disturbance on Earth.
Also had a meeting.
 Quoting: 0verlord


Hi Overlord. Funny seeing you here ;)

I did read your entire thread and found it interesting to say the least. You used similar methods of explaining yourself that I associated with Chaol. I also noticed that you used your opening post like a "shock" to get people on-board your train of thought.

Still curious as to what we will observe on May 15th. As you said, something will happen right? Cool!

Will definitely be reading on, on your thread.
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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!

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My original few posts on my popular thread were flawed, if you read the whole thread you will gain a great deal of information.

I answer that statement in my thread

What drew me here were the words "alternate universe".
 Quoting: 0verlord



Well, it's very interesting because someone here thought you might be Chaol.

Btw, I realize I might explain what's going on here today because it's such an interesting experience we are having right now.

Chaol, the one you can't get a reading on, started these threads. He has been posting for about 3 1/2 years and teaching us how we perceive.

He left 2/11/13 and we have been waiting his return since then. Today, another Chaol posted who has just found out his higher self (Chaol who started these threads), has been using his mind and physical life to be here. Today, you noticed the thread as well.

So, it's been quite a day for us around here.

I will visit your thread. Why were your original posts flawed, if you don't mind my asking?
 Quoting: U3


I was used to obtain the attention of you, what I stated I did not fully mean.

If you visit it, read all my posts to its full extent. Then make an informative conclusion.

Yes that is why I was altered to this thread. Disturbance on Earth.
Also had a meeting.
 Quoting: 0verlord


Hi Overlord. Funny seeing you here ;)

I did read your entire thread and found it interesting to say the least. You used similar methods of explaining yourself that I associated with Chaol. I also noticed that you used your opening post like a "shock" to get people on-board your train of thought.

Still curious as to what we will observe on May 15th. As you said, something will happen right? Cool!

Will definitely be reading on, on your thread.
 Quoting: Nahoti


As you read on I answer that question.
Overlord
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Here we go again, for the first time.

hf

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If those things did not have some benefit then it would not be experienced.

There once was a boy who met a genie. The genie gave him 3 wishes.

"I wish for and endless supply of wishes" the boy commanded.

"Very well" said the genie. "You have an endless supply, and two more wishes after that."

The first wish that the boy wished for was a spaceship to take him far from Earth. He traveled far, and along the way he wished for things like air, food, water, friends to play with, and more.

Although the journey to other worlds was fun, after a while he grew tired and wished for an endless amount of physical energy so that he'll never have to rest.

He still had an unlimited supply of wishes left, which comforted him. Yet, he was still quite lonely because he continued to realize that his friends were not real. They only came to be and came to play because he wished it.

It was all an illusion, really.

He eventually came back to Earth because he grew lonely and missed the things he could not control. He missed fighting with his brother because it also meant that he liked making up with him. He missed his homework because it gave him something to do and meant that he would have a sense of accomplishment. He missed his parents because even though he had problems and it wasn't a perfect family, they have been there since the beginning.

After considering all of this for quite some time he decided that life is better left to its own elements.

His second wish was to 'undo' his first wish, and return the endless supply of wishes back to the genie.

He lived a happy life for a number of years. But still, in the back of his mind was the lingering thought that it was all an illusion. That somehow his life, which he was now quite happy with, is something that he wished for. He wanted to feel more secure and that. He wanted life to be itself and to be as real as it could possibly be.

What an awful thought! To think that even he is not real and does not exist. "What could be worse that having absolutely no value?", he would think. This troubled him too much, and one day he came to a decision.

Finally used his third wish.

"I wish I never met the genie"

And in a puff of smoke the genie vanished.
 Quoting: Chaol


He created the genie, then chose to forget him. Hrm.
 Quoting: CatCarel


He is the genie.

o.O
 Quoting: * * *


Yes :) With an endless supply of wishes, he was the genie.

But his best wish by far is to forget that he ever knew that part of himself, thus forgetting what he can do.
 Quoting: Chaol


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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
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I definitely do see!
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My brain has felt much larger or more like I am standing inside my head and it's a huge cavern of empty space.
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Oh! I experienced the "cavern" too! I wrote about it here:

At first it looked like a dark cavern. Then, the more I looked, I began to see tiny domes on the far surface, bubbling up, then bursting back into the matrix, like boiling water, but in slow motion. With a lurch of realization, I understood these to be "possibilities".
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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 90)

Chaol makes no reply when we're onto something, so I wondered what this was all about.

It is also interesting to me that it is before "changing" (the 63rd symbol). So to me this would mean that what Ecsys prime represents does not change but is one 'string' that continues indefinitely.

This could mean that what we perceive is not a changing set but a set string that is stretched (when we partake in new action), exposing new territories that did not appear to be there before but that are just reinterpretations of what was already there (like whole numbers becoming fractions). New relationships, as it were.
 Quoting: Chaol

This makes sooooo much sense! Thank you for this insight.

Chaol, if you ever feel like sharing parts of that document with us, we would be highly interested. You can leave out the personal parts, but perhaps Chaol told you something that would also benefit this forum.

Only if you feel like doing this, that is.

Most of us have developed a close relationship with your other self, Chaol (and with each other, here). In fact, I met your other self several times. I wrote about a couple instances on this thread, but there is more. If you are ever curious, please say so, and I can tell you some other things about "him".
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Incidentally, do you find a Tor browser on your computer? It appears that Chaol was using a Tor browser and was connecting to other servers all around the world before posting. You may wish to follow that example, although you have already indicated your location in Thailand.
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Here we go again, for the first time.
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Just like this morning. I wake up and my world is entirely different.
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What did you come up with for "beauty"?
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Following a "specific" brand of logic: S P, +S +L, -P +L
 Quoting: Nahoti

N-R-TA

I considered all of these neuronicons at one time or another in attempting to define "beauty".

I concur with your use of Logic, since "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I also concur with "N" and "TA".

But....hmmm...no Interaction?
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Welcome back Chaol!

How 'you've' blown my mind yet again :)

I don't know what to ask first! But how do 'you' explain the previous posts that were made without 'your' knowledge? I can't get my head around it. I know it's entirely possible but just trying to work out the fact that the posts are but 'you' didn't type them.

Either way, I'm glad (extremely) that you're back! hf
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I can relate it to sleeping. During that time we're doing something that we're not doing (because we're not aware, but a different part of us is very aware at the same time).

A different state of mind, I guess.
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Welcome Chaol! Glad to see you here. As always upon 'your' return, the thread's going upside down again and gets a boost in interestingness... ;)
I hope you're feeling at ease here!

I am that french car guy; but as it is I am still dreaming about it too. It has not yet materialized. Still don't see how it ever could as I am flat broke again.

Something is going to change in my life though, I think, because I dreamt of two accidents with my current, somewhat newer french car, the second of which was a head on collision.
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Most interesting. I hope that the accidents are just a dream.

It may be a silly question, but do you want to be broke?
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(Also: nice touch coming back on Ascension Day!)
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Well, I've been reading this forum for a few days but actually wasn't thinking to login and post until Not-Chaol's post.
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Oh, ok. Well, do you mind sharing the subscriptions? I would love to see anything he is interested in.

Btw, I'm back. I woke up because I can't resist either, lol!
 Quoting: U3


The 'me tell you now' threads.
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Well, well, well......now you are showing your Chaolness. :o)

Yes, he says it's one continuous string. As far as the inputs and outputs, that part has been something I have to work on, myself. Here is a partial collection of his posts re: input/outputs: [link to myecstrings.blogspot.com]
(You will have to scroll around to find the posts because the blog isn't about output/inputs alone.)

You lost me on changing before the 63rd symbol, but it sorta makes sense that the sequence is infinite....if you go into fractions. This can be understood if you look at his video again.....a sequence within a sequence kind of thing.

Thanks for sharing. Don't worry if it's clear. We will all be learning with you.
 Quoting: U3


I'm not really sure about any of it. But like I said I do get the sense that our language is a kind of calculation.

Particular sounds being like values (or numbers) that you can do something with.

This kind of learning is fun!
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(Also: nice touch coming back on Ascension Day!)
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... Which happened to be Fibonacci day in the US too! Namely... 5-8-13

[link to www.treehugger.com]
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Interesting.
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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
 Quoting: miqq

I suggest that we are the ones who moved. We have crossed the bridge!
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Hi Overlord. Funny seeing you here ;)

I did read your entire thread and found it interesting to say the least. You used similar methods of explaining yourself that I associated with Chaol. I also noticed that you used your opening post like a "shock" to get people on-board your train of thought.

Still curious as to what we will observe on May 15th. As you said, something will happen right? Cool!

Will definitely be reading on, on your thread.
 Quoting: Nahoti


Not sure if this is relevant, but April/May 2013 has been on my mind for quite some time. I associate it with the opening of a bottle (?)
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Oh, ok. Well, do you mind sharing the subscriptions? I would love to see anything he is interested in.

Btw, I'm back. I woke up because I can't resist either, lol!
 Quoting: U3


The 'me tell you now' threads.
 Quoting: Chaol


Alpha interests you/him?

He has not given me his synopsis yet.
Overlord
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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
 Quoting: miqq


Maybe. But I get the sense that I'm supposed to do something. I'm just not sure what it is.
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Here we go again, for the first time.

hf

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He created the genie, then chose to forget him. Hrm.
 Quoting: CatCarel


He is the genie.

o.O
 Quoting: * * *


Yes :) With an endless supply of wishes, he was the genie.

But his best wish by far is to forget that he ever knew that part of himself, thus forgetting what he can do.
 Quoting: Chaol

 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Haha! That is a most awesome clue. I hadn't read that far yet. Thank you.

Perhaps we are always the genie, but choose to forget in order to do it all over again.
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I'm not really sure about any of it. But like I said I do get the sense that our language is a kind of calculation.

Particular sounds being like values (or numbers) that you can do something with.

This kind of learning is fun!
 Quoting: Chaol

Ah! Just as I thought! I followed this idea until I got myself all twisted up and then had to leave it alone for awhile until the knots relaxed.

It is fun! It is like unraveling a mystery.
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My brain has felt much larger or more like I am standing inside my head and it's a huge cavern of empty space.
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Oh! I experienced the "cavern" too! I wrote about it here:

At first it looked like a dark cavern. Then, the more I looked, I began to see tiny domes on the far surface, bubbling up, then bursting back into the matrix, like boiling water, but in slow motion. With a lurch of realization, I understood these to be "possibilities".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 90)

Chaol makes no reply when we're onto something, so I wondered what this was all about.

It is also interesting to me that it is before "changing" (the 63rd symbol). So to me this would mean that what Ecsys prime represents does not change but is one 'string' that continues indefinitely.

This could mean that what we perceive is not a changing set but a set string that is stretched (when we partake in new action), exposing new territories that did not appear to be there before but that are just reinterpretations of what was already there (like whole numbers becoming fractions). New relationships, as it were.
 Quoting: Chaol

This makes sooooo much sense! Thank you for this insight.

Chaol, if you ever feel like sharing parts of that document with us, we would be highly interested. You can leave out the personal parts, but perhaps Chaol told you something that would also benefit this forum.

Only if you feel like doing this, that is.

Most of us have developed a close relationship with your other self, Chaol (and with each other, here). In fact, I met your other self several times. I wrote about a couple instances on this thread, but there is more. If you are ever curious, please say so, and I can tell you some other things about "him".
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It would be interesting to know those things. But at the same time I'm not sure how much of it I should share. Taking out the personal stuff there's not much actually left.

But if you'd like to share, by all means!
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Incidentally, do you find a Tor browser on your computer? It appears that Chaol was using a Tor browser and was connecting to other servers all around the world before posting. You may wish to follow that example, although you have already indicated your location in Thailand.
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No Tor browser, just Chrome.

I'm not sure about the need to connect with other servers, but he did say that he did his "Chaol best" to shield me from any harm. I don't see how location relates to that but it's something to consider.
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Oh, ok. Well, do you mind sharing the subscriptions? I would love to see anything he is interested in.

Btw, I'm back. I woke up because I can't resist either, lol!
 Quoting: U3


The 'me tell you now' threads.
 Quoting: Chaol


Alpha interests you/him?

He has not given me his synopsis yet.
 Quoting: 0verlord


Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.

Chaol found a lot of things interesting, I think. He wrote a paragraph describing a squirrel that was on the street dancing as I walked by when I was younger (but did not notice).

I don't think anything of the thread, myself.
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I'm not really sure about any of it. But like I said I do get the sense that our language is a kind of calculation.

Particular sounds being like values (or numbers) that you can do something with.

This kind of learning is fun!
 Quoting: Chaol

Ah! Just as I thought! I followed this idea until I got myself all twisted up and then had to leave it alone for awhile until the knots relaxed.

It is fun! It is like unraveling a mystery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Well when you think about it it's all about representation. 32+5=? makes sense because we have already symbolized what "32" represents and called it 32, 5, and a query as a question mark. We can then symbolize the answer as "yogi berra" and link it to something else. The symbolizing makes for rapid calculation, which is really just a way to make something more relative to "now".

It doesn't seem to matter what something represents, I think. Only that it is part of a logical system.

I guess that's the Chaol in me talking.

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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
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I suggest that we are the ones who moved. We have crossed the bridge!
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damned
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I'm starting to see how this could all be quite confusing.

Part of what I'm doing now is trying to organize all of this information into one place, categorize it, and make sense of it.

The end result will hopefully be a simple, easy-to-follow document. I have an urge to write, and I don't know how else to express that.

Would anyone be interested in this document once completed?
MutantMessiah
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I'm starting to see how this could all be quite confusing.

Part of what I'm doing now is trying to organize all of this information into one place, categorize it, and make sense of it.

The end result will hopefully be a simple, easy-to-follow document. I have an urge to write, and I don't know how else to express that.

Would anyone be interested in this document once completed?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.

Thank you in advanced. I hope that we have the opportunity to read it.
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