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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I'm starting to see how this could all be quite confusing.

Part of what I'm doing now is trying to organize all of this information into one place, categorize it, and make sense of it.

The end result will hopefully be a simple, easy-to-follow document. I have an urge to write, and I don't know how else to express that.

Would anyone be interested in this document once completed?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.

Thank you in advanced. I hope that we have the opportunity to read it.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Oh.My.God.

This is going to sound like a fantastic claim, but I KNOW you!

I know your name. I know what you look like. We have already had some dream adventures together.

This realization made my knees buckle.

Here you are! Here I am! Our dream has become our reality!

I am just quaking with realization. I know you!
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No Tor browser, just Chrome.

I'm not sure about the need to connect with other servers, but he did say that he did his "Chaol best" to shield me from any harm. I don't see how location relates to that but it's something to consider.
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Yes. This exactly. Now that you're here (or we are there, or where the hell are we, anyway lol?), I can see that Chaol was protecting you and not himself, particularly.
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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
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Yes, I see it, lol!
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Oh.My.God.

This is going to sound like a fantastic claim, but I KNOW you!

I know your name. I know what you look like. We have already had some dream adventures together.

This realization made my knees buckle.

Here you are! Here I am! Our dream has become our reality!

I am just quaking with realization. I know you!
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Describe me.

This is fun.

Unfortunately, I do not know you (yet?)
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U3...

What the hell is going on? I've only gone back to page 310 on this thread so FILL ME IN PLEASE...

Chaol back?

Wait what IS GOING ON?

All I know is I said yesterday "this is the last day 'normal' day" ...

I'm so confused...
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NP. It was fun to have you here. I am still curious what drew you here, though.

He would say we are all gods, though. He just doesn't use the word creator. We each have perception but we don't really create. We perceive.
 Quoting: U3


My original few posts on my popular thread were flawed, if you read the whole thread you will gain a great deal of information.

I answer that statement in my thread

What drew me here were the words "alternate universe".
 Quoting: 0verlord



Well, it's very interesting because someone here thought you might be Chaol.

Btw, I realize I might explain what's going on here today because it's such an interesting experience we are having right now.

Chaol, the one you can't get a reading on, started these threads. He has been posting for about 3 1/2 years and teaching us how we perceive.

He left 2/11/13 and we have been waiting his return since then. Today, another Chaol posted who has just found out his higher self (Chaol who started these threads), has been using his mind and physical life to be here. Today, you noticed the thread as well.

So, it's been quite a day for us around here.

I will visit your thread. Why were your original posts flawed, if you don't mind my asking?
 Quoting: U3


I was used to obtain the attention of you, what I stated I did not fully mean.

If you visit it, read all my posts to its full extent. Then make an informative conclusion.

Yes that is why I was altered to this thread. Disturbance on Earth.
Also had a meeting.
 Quoting: 0verlord



For what purpose, if you don't mind my asking.

I visited your thread and realized I had already read 7 pages and found nothing of interest to me at that point. I guess I could go on reading, but if so, I ask you to read the first 7 pages of this thread. You will be hooked.

I have no doubt you are a highly intuned individual. However, to be fair, we only observe geometery....the rest, we fill in with our "stories." There is no creator, there are no creators. We are all points of observation. Period.

As far as I'm concerned, you are here because I interacted with your thread, and your energy through our discussion here, plus I also made a huge intent yesterday....the day you showed up here.....along with new Chaol.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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Here we go again, for the first time.

hf

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He created the genie, then chose to forget him. Hrm.
 Quoting: CatCarel


He is the genie.

o.O
 Quoting: * * *


Yes :) With an endless supply of wishes, he was the genie.

But his best wish by far is to forget that he ever knew that part of himself, thus forgetting what he can do.
 Quoting: Chaol

 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Wonderful reminder, Jesse. And especially now. hf
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But I will say that I get a sense that Chaol (I) am a trickster. A cosmic joker, a bit like the character referenced on the Farpoint thread (Q, from Star Trek).
 Quoting: Chaol

Thoth/Hermes/Merlin/The Trickster...

Enki.
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U3...

What the hell is going on? I've only gone back to page 310 on this thread so FILL ME IN PLEASE...

Chaol back?

Wait what IS GOING ON?

All I know is I said yesterday "this is the last day 'normal' day" ...

I'm so confused...
 Quoting: Heather 39512839




Oh my gosh.....we both made an intent yesterday, lol! OK, go back one more page to 309. I'm pretty sure that's where it started.

Dream Chaol used now Chaol's phsyicality to contact us for 3 1/2 years. Now Chaol just figured it all out and posted last night for the first time.

I believe dream Chaol is now Choal's higher self and they are merging. It's all new to now Chaol except his has vague memories of dreams of certain parts of these threads.

It's all the most mind-blogglying thing you have never dreamed of, lol! hf

Be sure to find now Chaol's first post....it will help you catch it better.
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Welcome Chaol! Glad to see you here. As always upon 'your' return, the thread's going upside down again and gets a boost in interestingness... ;)
I hope you're feeling at ease here!

I am that french car guy; but as it is I am still dreaming about it too. It has not yet materialized. Still don't see how it ever could as I am flat broke again.

Something is going to change in my life though, I think, because I dreamt of two accidents with my current, somewhat newer french car, the second of which was a head on collision.
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Most interesting. I hope that the accidents are just a dream.

It may be a silly question, but do you want to be broke?
 Quoting: Chaol




Oh...doesn't he sound just like Chaol?????? Oh yes, he definitely does.
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Oh, ok. Well, do you mind sharing the subscriptions? I would love to see anything he is interested in.

Btw, I'm back. I woke up because I can't resist either, lol!
 Quoting: U3


The 'me tell you now' threads.
 Quoting: Chaol




Wow! I've wondered and wondered about those threads. Thanks.
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right...they are not human but they use the english language...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight













I was being sarcastic by the way
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Well, well, well......now you are showing your Chaolness. :o)

Yes, he says it's one continuous string. As far as the inputs and outputs, that part has been something I have to work on, myself. Here is a partial collection of his posts re: input/outputs: [link to myecstrings.blogspot.com]
(You will have to scroll around to find the posts because the blog isn't about output/inputs alone.)

You lost me on changing before the 63rd symbol, but it sorta makes sense that the sequence is infinite....if you go into fractions. This can be understood if you look at his video again.....a sequence within a sequence kind of thing.

Thanks for sharing. Don't worry if it's clear. We will all be learning with you.
 Quoting: U3


I'm not really sure about any of it. But like I said I do get the sense that our language is a kind of calculation.

Particular sounds being like values (or numbers) that you can do something with.

This kind of learning is fun!
 Quoting: Chaol




Yes it is. I'm so excited to be learning it with you. hf
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Oh.My.God.

This is going to sound like a fantastic claim, but I KNOW you!

I know your name. I know what you look like. We have already had some dream adventures together.

This realization made my knees buckle.

Here you are! Here I am! Our dream has become our reality!

I am just quaking with realization. I know you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Describe me.

This is fun.

Unfortunately, I do not know you (yet?)
 Quoting: Chaol

Is your name "Peter"?

Are you an Asian man with a height of around 5' 7"-ish? 5' 6"? Dark hair?

By now, you are past the age of 35 years old, but not 40 yet?

You know computers. You like science. You like to teach. You are playful, generous and have a gentle hand?

Is this you?
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People Don't you see it? This Chaol is from this Earth! This time line!
The other Chaol left clues for him! They are the same person and simultaneously they are not!
Amazing!
 Quoting: miqq

I suggest that we are the ones who moved. We have crossed the bridge!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315




Oh, I hadn't thought of this but could be. My life is so amazing, unusual, wierd, exciting right now, it's definitely changed.
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Welcome Chaol! Glad to see you here. As always upon 'your' return, the thread's going upside down again and gets a boost in interestingness... ;)
I hope you're feeling at ease here!

I am that french car guy; but as it is I am still dreaming about it too. It has not yet materialized. Still don't see how it ever could as I am flat broke again.

Something is going to change in my life though, I think, because I dreamt of two accidents with my current, somewhat newer french car, the second of which was a head on collision.
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Most interesting. I hope that the accidents are just a dream.

It may be a silly question, but do you want to be broke?
 Quoting: Chaol




Oh...doesn't he sound just like Chaol?????? Oh yes, he definitely does.
 Quoting: U3


That's good to know. I could certainly use a few more drops of intelligence.
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Here we go again, for the first time.

hf

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He is the genie.

o.O
 Quoting: * * *


Yes :) With an endless supply of wishes, he was the genie.

But his best wish by far is to forget that he ever knew that part of himself, thus forgetting what he can do.
 Quoting: Chaol

 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Haha! That is a most awesome clue. I hadn't read that far yet. Thank you.

Perhaps we are always the genie, but choose to forget in order to do it all over again.
 Quoting: Chaol




That's it, exactly.
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right...they are not human but they use the english language...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

I was being sarcastic by the way
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That would make a funny TV comedy. An alien that could master quantum physics to travel untold light years but somehow not be able to learn English!
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I'm not really sure about any of it. But like I said I do get the sense that our language is a kind of calculation.

Particular sounds being like values (or numbers) that you can do something with.

This kind of learning is fun!
 Quoting: Chaol

Ah! Just as I thought! I followed this idea until I got myself all twisted up and then had to leave it alone for awhile until the knots relaxed.

It is fun! It is like unraveling a mystery.
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Well when you think about it it's all about representation. 32+5=? makes sense because we have already symbolized what "32" represents and called it 32, 5, and a query as a question mark. We can then symbolize the answer as "yogi berra" and link it to something else. The symbolizing makes for rapid calculation, which is really just a way to make something more relative to "now".

It doesn't seem to matter what something represents, I think. Only that it is part of a logical system.

I guess that's the Chaol in me talking.
 Quoting: Chaol





Yes....that is exactly Chaol speaking. Oh happy days!!!!!!

The calculations have to be simple because we are doing millions of them all the time.
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Thank U3...
But, but, but...

BLOWING MY MIND!!!
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I'm starting to see how this could all be quite confusing.

Part of what I'm doing now is trying to organize all of this information into one place, categorize it, and make sense of it.

The end result will hopefully be a simple, easy-to-follow document. I have an urge to write, and I don't know how else to express that.

Would anyone be interested in this document once completed?
 Quoting: Chaol





Oh, yes. I can't get enough of any of the Chaol's, lol!
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Thank U3...
But, but, but...

BLOWING MY MIND!!!
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Yes, welcome to Chaol's world, lol! I have had my mind blown so many times here, I can't even count it.

It's ok, we'll help. Just, well, get used to it. LOL!
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Oh.My.God.

This is going to sound like a fantastic claim, but I KNOW you!

I know your name. I know what you look like. We have already had some dream adventures together.

This realization made my knees buckle.

Here you are! Here I am! Our dream has become our reality!

I am just quaking with realization. I know you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Describe me.

This is fun.

Unfortunately, I do not know you (yet?)
 Quoting: Chaol

Is your name "Peter"?

Are you an Asian man with a height of around 5' 7"-ish? 5' 6"? Dark hair?

By now, you are past the age of 35 years old, but not 40 yet?

You know computers. You like science. You like to teach. You are playful, generous and have a gentle hand?

Is this you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Unfortunately, all of this is incorrect. But perhaps that is me in another universe.
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Welcome Chaol! Glad to see you here. As always upon 'your' return, the thread's going upside down again and gets a boost in interestingness... ;)
I hope you're feeling at ease here!

I am that french car guy; but as it is I am still dreaming about it too. It has not yet materialized. Still don't see how it ever could as I am flat broke again.

Something is going to change in my life though, I think, because I dreamt of two accidents with my current, somewhat newer french car, the second of which was a head on collision.
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Most interesting. I hope that the accidents are just a dream.

It may be a silly question, but do you want to be broke?
 Quoting: Chaol




Oh...doesn't he sound just like Chaol?????? Oh yes, he definitely does.
 Quoting: U3


That's good to know. I could certainly use a few more drops of intelligence.
 Quoting: Chaol





Just keep connecting to your higher self. You're doing great. hf
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right...they are not human but they use the english language...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

I was being sarcastic by the way
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That would make a funny TV comedy. An alien that could master quantum physics to travel untold light years but somehow not be able to learn English!
 Quoting: Chaol





LOL!
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(Also: nice touch coming back on Ascension Day!)
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Well, I've been reading this forum for a few days but actually wasn't thinking to login and post until Not-Chaol's post.
 Quoting: Chaol




What a happy coincidence! We are so glad you are here.
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Yes....that is exactly Chaol speaking. Oh happy days!!!!!!

The calculations have to be simple because we are doing millions of them all the time.
 Quoting: U3


Or maybe because when we calculate (making one thing interact with another) we have to break it down in order to find a common denominator.

So we symbolize (simplify) in order to make it fit (interact).

The more we symbolize the more we interact?
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Just keep connecting to your higher self. You're doing great. hf
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Thanks. I'm starting to wonder where our intuition comes from.
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The Chaol you knew before will not be returning.

Not-Chaol
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This is entirely strange. I am not sure how to respond to that.

I suppose I feel a bit like Bilbo Baggins with an amazing story to tell.

Where do I begin?

I have been reading this website for a few days now. About 10 days ago I woke up and found a document on my computer, addressed to me. (This was strange because my computer is ultra-secure.)

Apparently, I had written it. But not me me, another me. It seems that I am this Chaol, or somehow have channeled this being.

From what I have read so far "Chaol's" life is my life. I feel like I have taken a trip down the rabbit hole. I have been having these amazing dreams the past several years. I thought it was because of a change in diet but when I find this huge amount of text with some details about my life, a note (from myself to myself?), and frequent dreams about talking with people in various places, and doing various things "from above", it astonishes me.

I get the feeling this isn't some kind of elaborate joke because 1) no one else can access my computer to create entire directories; 2) I remember some of this now; 3) there are things on here that very few people would know. And I remember dreaming about a guy with an old French car and a few other things. Like I was actually there!

I'm not sure what I am supposed to do now. The past few days have left me feeling quite strange. I feel like I am already here, but not here. Like I have been introduced at some event, but I am not the person in the playbill.

Dreams sure can make you do things your waking mind would not ordinarily do, that's for sure. But for some reason I have a tremendous urge to write a book and eat chocolate.

What's your take on all of this?
 Quoting: Chaol




FOR REFERENCE...CHAOL'S FIRST POST 5/8/13!!!!!!!
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka





GLP