Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Man, I was just thinking with myself... I've put my life in stand by...

Not because Chaol or this thread in particular, but in some way I've got caught in this "end" of the world thing.

I just want to throw this out... I'm doing nothing with my life. Dropped college (because I didn't like the only course that I believed that would like, and I didn't have a second option in mind), can't find a decent job, no motivation to study... And I'm feeling really bad about this.

So, here I am, waiting for 'something' to change the world so I can fit in it... And I don't know how I should feel about this.

And you guys, why you are here?

Similar situation. Not much motivation to do anything. I haven't had a job in 6months (not that I particularly mind, but still)
Tired of "waiting" for a "big" change too.

Making the most of whatever time you have is very important. Time can either be your friend or enemy. When I have nothing to do, I hate it. When I have too much to do, I hate that even more. Balance is key.

Much love to you and anyone else who is going through a similar situation.

And I don't have a answer for "what if nothing happens?". This bothers me so much...



Same here lol



Thank you friend and for you too.

How similar we are!

I've been bored out of my mind at university for the past four years.. finally decided to do the 'unthinkable' and withdraw after this past quarter.
But this new freedom is constantly shadowed by a feeling that we're rushing towards an end, or a change, of some sort.

I have so much motivation to learn and grow as a person, but no interest in playing a role that is expected within society. That's where the conflict starts and hasn't stopped. The people around me are content to follow the herd, and think me insane for asking questions, having opinions, wanting something different.

This site is a nice reminder that the world is diverse and interesting, not quite as bland as my California bubble seems at times:)

Why not work on your ability to change it? Why not try using 'Ecsys' to change [whatever you want]? You say you're not working and not schooling--so why not put in some effort on this (at least)?

How hard have you really tried with [any of this]?

I'm in the same boat.

Perhaps in the near distant future, reality will be shaped by our thoughts in dream like fashion.

What is the purpose of ecsys? - escys is the secret of how we perceive reality... and how to change it

Seems like on this forum we are learning more about the secret of how we really should be perceiving reality.

Soon enough we will change it more rapidly/consciously.

But the question is "How far do I go?"




Last Edited by SpawnX on 09/24/2012 02:59 AM

Thank you, Mr. X :)

But how does one go from considering the extent of self to applying, or using it?
How does one take the less desirable aspects of reality and flip them?

Things are changing, for sure, but my surroundings are as solid as ever.

Yep, I can relate to this.
I'm here to connect. And also to play around with Chaol's ideas.

Yes, I echo this, too

Are you me? haha




I really didn't tried ecsys...

You know, sometimes I keep thinking "look at me, reading what a guys who says he's from an 'alternate universe' writes and I'm actually starting to believe in him". And at the same time I think "What if he is not what he says he is? What if he's just playing with us?", so this conflict in my mind prevents me to apply this things in my daily life and I somehow look at this as lite entertainment.

It's like I need more time.

It's good to see that I'm not "alone". Thank you all.

Perhaps our insatisfaction with the actual world is what holds us here. Like we want to believe in what's been said here.

Sorry for any language mistakes, it's not usual to me to right this much in english.

So much I want to ask

Yes!?



Sometimes I think Chaol's story is 'out-there' enough to garner credibility, yet mundane enough that we're not too curious about him. It's a clever way to get information across.

So I guess my 'respect' lies more with the mind behind all this, rather than the person, whoever he may be.

I seek the same answers.

I too find myself connected to less undesirable aspects of reality. This has become a part of my reality and has become very relative to me. We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive, each day feeds off the last. We have relationships with the undesirable. We need to break free from the undesired part of our reality.

How can you destroy the undesirable reality of yesterday? Ask a destroyer from an "alternate universe".
-Chaol is pointing at the door. Can you open it and create your own steps?

Some rare days click for me where my thoughts pass through my mind and then into reality. I feel my thoughts synchronize with physical reality sorta like a dream.

I'm still learning how to crawl, I can't wait to jump :) jumping in dreams sure is fun.

I relate to your post and your other respondents.

I think that is why I stopped checking these threads for updates daily, and tried to get on with my life. I just couldn't figure out how to apply what I have learnt here to (for example) my health issues, I was hoping if I just ignored them (made them less relevant) they would go away. But they are hard to ignore.

I also struggled with how to combine what I have learnt from this thread and being a mother. I am not at all satisfied with the domestic duties and organizational aspects of being a parent, and I continue to send my kids to school where I know they are taught what to think, not how to think. I don't yet know how to live within this culture yet be not of it...except in my thoughts.

I too feel like I am just waiting for something to happen. Something that will provide the impetus of change and new foundations for living my life, and guiding my children in a way which makes more sense than this current reality, and in a way that just feels right.

Sometimes this cyber reality feels more real and meaningful than my waking life, it is comforting to know that others feel the same. Although I have never touched, seen or heard any contributors to this thread, you have all helped greatly expand my concept of me. And I can't think of any other 'growth' experience that I value higher. So thank you all.

So much of your post resonated with me. I realized that the word I've been searching for to describe these discussions and new ideas is meaningful. The thoughts that have been inspired by everyone here trump anything that university lectures ever did for me.

And the funny thing is, it's all intangible, yet so valuable! Maybe this is part of what Chaol's been trying to teach us? Because sure enough, my physical surroundings are slowly losing precedence when I stop to consider what is important. They may not be changing visually, but I guess my perception has drastically shifted.. to value what is nonphysical.

Good grief! I think Chaol and all of you posting have triggered more breakthroughs than my therapist!

I'm also waiting for "something".
I feel kind of lonely, because the one person I can talk about these thing (wife)is starting to look like she is having enough of me talking about GLP. Altough it's kind of funny being the weirdo of the family.
I supose we'll have to wait.

Same here. I feel like "my life is in standby" as well, for some years already.

Some things start to go well though (since January I got my dream car (I know that's materialistic... ;-) ), and since a few weeks I got what comes close to my dream job).

Por que não tentar usar ecsys? Não demorou muito para provar algo básico com este "sistema". Mas a verdadeira questão é:

Você tem medo que Chaol está certo? Ou você está com medo que você vai provar que ele estava errado?

A Escolha.

Cheer up guys. Life will never be better or worse than you say it is. Why is everyone waiting for a change? The thing is, only you can discover the change even if its already changed, which of course it has. It doesn't seem like many of you have made change relevant enough to your lives.

Chaol is only pointing out some possibilities, he can't make you experience them. Welcome the unexpected, as soon as you finish reading this, do something you don't usually do, think in ways you never have about what you usually don't. Most important is the "doing" as Chaol pointed out before. The doing is a result of your thoughts as your actions stem from intentions.

Be the change, as fantasizing about it is resisting it. You can never want what you already have..

Definitivamente é a segunda opção.

Anyone else feel that energy shift yesterday?

How easy you make it all sound!

I don't think any of us implied that we're relying on Chaol for these changes- just that we sense something different, and want something different.

Your post reads more like a textbook than something that's applicable to the real world. I've found that making changes is messy business because reality has so many variables; it's not just me (at the moment). I can intend and do all I want, but the rest of the world has to catch up. And until they do, it's absolute chaos.

I was so happy yesterday, for no reason at all! And today I woke up in a glorious mood..

Wtf? :)

Same here, definitely feel that feeling of "something" coming. It has been repeated in my dreams to me over and over again as well. (and sometimes my dreams come true). It's an odd feeling being completely stuck and while at the same time feeling I can make very drastic, and great, positive changes in my life. Glad I'm not the only one, but birds of a feather flock together, even digitally.

Funny...same here.

What is Chaol's message here? (But to change the meaning of your current physicality requires that you do something that you probably do not want to do.)

How would you apply the message to your perspective, to break free from solid surroundings, to redefine what it means to be "me".?

Is this the change we feel coming?

Last Edited by SpawnX on 09/24/2012 04:48 PM

I have some thoughts on applicable methods.

One action that can help you obtain more control over your experiences is to actively control what you are feeling in any moment - using the feeling of appreciation or excitement as your anchor point. You can do this by recalling an experience you had which filled you with either of those emotions. Go beyond just remembering and try to re-experience it by feeling it also within your body - how it felt to laugh, how your body feels when excited, the surge of energy, the wide-awakeness, etc. Get to the point where you can re-immerse yourself in the experience of it. If you've had no experiences that you are able to do this with, then you can use imagination by conjuring up day dreams that excite you or watching a movie that excites you, gets you into a state of appreciation or excitement. You can even create a word or symbol that you look at when feeling this way until you've done it often enough that just looking at the symbol or thinking the word immediately brings the sensation of appreciation or excitement back. Eventually, you become so familiar with the sensation of either emotion, that you can recall it at will immediately without needing a symbol or the effort of recalling the past.

Once in either emotional state, take a quiet moment to memorize the sensations you experience within your self - how it feels, like you are wearing a suit of excitement or appreciation. Like you are emitting an energy - become familiar with the sensation of it, it can be your anchor. This will become your predominant energetic state, and when you deviate from it, you will notice more quickly (as in be in conscious awareness of how you are reacting to things), and you will be able to bring yourself back to the preferred state quickly. Things brings you in control of your energy.

This new energetic state will become your dominant state. When you deliberately bring yourself to it and focus on it, you will be making it stronger which will attract more of the same energy to you. Since at any time you could be emitting a complex arrangement of frequencies, this controlling of your predominant frequency would begin to influence others around you as they begin to resonate with that frequency. It would be like hitting a tuning fork and that tuning fork begins to make nearby tuning forks vibrate, although much less. If other tuning forks nearby are vibrating at a different frequency, they could influence the original tuning fork unless the original one is itself hit continuously so it can emit its own frequency.

This makes sense more if you imagine yourself and every person to be a source of energy. You have the infinite spectrum of energy available to you and your system of beliefs is the filter that you place over this infinite energy to filter out all but what you believe. For example, someone can believe elves live in the center of the Earth, but you don't believe in elves or a hollow earth, so you filter out this energy. As the other person resonates with this belief, it cannot trigger a harmonic resonance within you, because your belief filter has blocked this frequency - there's no energy coming in at that particular frequency to resonate with. If you open yourself up to the possibility, then your filter may open a bit and you start perceiving information about elves or a hollow Earth. Then it is your choice whether to reject it or go with it (this is just a fun example). Every belief is a choice. Every interaction you have with anything is a reflection of a belief. All of it is attracted to you based on the energies you radiate. You stand at the center of your own universe. You can never truly know what anyone else perceives because all of what you perceive is you - your reflections. Interactions with other people are possible because at least part of your energies are in alignment - they resonate. Change this energy you are emitting, then the interaction changes. That's where the control of energy mentioned above comes in handy. Go back to this energy, change the way you respond to things you perceive based on how you would prefer to respond, not based on your reflexive reaction - this reaction is betraying a belief, a belief that you can change if you can recognize what it is. For instance, if you want to punch someone in the face because they tossed an insult at you, then let your imagination do it so the desire passes through you, then recall your anchor point emotion and proceed from there. This is your point of inspiration. Your inspiration will lead you where you want to go.