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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 02/09/2016 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Still the most important and relevant thread on GLP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2091907 Read and read again. What makes you say that? Nobody said that. It was posted, not said, because it is true in the informed opinion of the poster. That should be obvious to a competent man or woman. |
ku commando User ID: 70773818 United States 02/15/2016 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul After reading through and searching this thread I can't help but notice there are no answers regarding digital transfers through PayPal. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias How would one redeem lawful money when transferring from PP to a bank account, or transferring from the bank into PP? PayPal offers transfer receipts but they're digital. Would someone just print that digital receipt & stamp it with 12 USC 411? That receipt is "mine" so it wouldn't be sent to the bank or to PayPal, so would that even be enough evidence? Steam, I'm gonna say that income from paypal would be taxable as it is not issued by the treasury. Quoting: Jknoph I use Veazie bank v. Fenno as the authority on that. It would also depend on what the nature of the income was...ie employment, rents, etc. I'm gonna say that ANY & ALL transactions can be made non-taxable via a 'transaction based' demand for lawful money. On the front of any check or any bank deposit slip, in the blank space near the left/top, you make YOUR demand on a paper instrument you issued --> "LAWFUL MONEY & FULL DISCHARGE IS DEMANDED ALL TRANSACTIONS 12 USC 411, 95a(2)" --> the keys words here being "ALL TRANSACTIONS" A week or two later, go online to your bank and download/print out the bank copies of those transactions (front & back). This is self-authenticating evidence under the Federal Rules of Evidence Exception to Hearsay rule 803(6)(B)....which states: Rule 803. Exceptions to the Rule Against Hearsay The following are not excluded by the rule against hearsay, regardless of whether the declarant is available as a witness: (6) Records of a Regularly Conducted Activity. A record of an act, event, condition, opinion, or diagnosis if: (B) the record was kept in the course of a regularly conducted activity of a business, organization, occupation, or calling, whether or not for profit; Who can rebut your demand? NO ONE !! |
SteamrolledGobias User ID: 71405213 United States 03/03/2016 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul ^ this is good but the issue is that I have no check or deposit slip for these transactions. Money gets sent digitally from someone's paypal to my paypal. I then transfer money from paypal into my bank account-again, all digitally. There is no paper trail. There's no paper to stamp or write on for the demand. That's the trouble here |
SHUT IT DOWN NOW User ID: 32957421 United States 03/05/2016 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul What Americans do not understand, because they are miseducated and malinformed on substantive issues, is that IF Constitutional soveriegn money was restored to the people, we could easily pay for all the social programs. We could pay for truly reinventive collaboration, and transform civilization into a new paradigm by leaps and bounds. Free energy has been suppressed since the time when J.P. Morgan defunded Tesla's Wardenclyffe. Why ? Because he said he couldn't make any money off it. We are still enslaved by 19th century technologies which are ruining the ecosphere and still intent on rebuilding an antiquated infrastructure when we should be building an entirely different mode of transportation. People say: "It will cost too much", "We will owe too much", "I don't want my money to be distributed to others", etc, ad nauseum.. but what they do not realize is that these complaints are only valid within the system that we are forced to live under. Take away the Central Bank, and we are free again. The people are the sovereign FIAT source of money according to the Constitution, not J.P. Morgan Chase who owns the New York Federal Reserve who is owned by the heirs of Rothschilds, Baruchs and Warburgs. Bernie's plans keep us SLAVES to the banks ! His solutions are FALSE because they rely on taxation to "pay" the banks ! F THE BANKS !! Shut them down. We can still have non-usurious community banks but we have to get rid of the Central Bank and strip it of ALL POWER or no solution to our slavery will ever happen. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 03/18/2016 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul ^ this is good but the issue is that I have no check or deposit slip for these transactions. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias Money gets sent digitally from someone's paypal to my paypal. I then transfer money from paypal into my bank account-again, all digitally. There is no paper trail. There's no paper to stamp or write on for the demand. That's the trouble here The paper trail is your demand. The burden of proof is on them to show you have not made a lawful demand for redemption from their fiat scam. How can they prove you do not have a demand when you have proof you do for ALL TRANSACTIONS on your bank account? Come on, this is not rocket science, you are IN or you are OUT, which is it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 03/18/2016 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul ^ this is good but the issue is that I have no check or deposit slip for these transactions. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias Money gets sent digitally from someone's paypal to my paypal. No "money" gets sent. Until you get that through your head, nothing else will matter. I then transfer money from paypal into my bank account-again, all digitally. As has been pointed out, put the demand on your damn signature card for the account. ALL transactions for that account are then redeemed. There is no paper trail. There's no paper to stamp or write on for the demand. The Signature card is the paper trail, get it? That's the trouble here You clouded duality of mind is the trouble here, not the process or the facts. |
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fellow man User ID: 29203778 Italy 05/07/2016 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul it is very telling that the betrayer of YEHSUA with a kiss was the Treasurer Judas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 your profane behavior aswell a lawful money remedy is suspect to say the least. shill much? Thread: Birth Certificate Estate-Two Birthdates Exposed!!! obviously |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 05/07/2016 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul it is very telling that the betrayer of YEHSUA with a kiss was the Treasurer Judas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 your profane behavior aswell a lawful money remedy is suspect to say the least. shill much? Thread: Birth Certificate Estate-Two Birthdates Exposed!!! obviously thanks for the bump, I see how idiots can be useful. No wonder the government loves you. The info in this thread stands alone and has for years now while Ted Turner, Dean Clifford and soon, Winston Strout, enjoy the benefit of prison. without prejudice, of course. |
Miguel Aguilera User ID: 70771686 United States 05/08/2016 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)? How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax? If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later? People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977. Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions. As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4. Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that. The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands. As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXX are for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value. Send it Registered mail to your bank. Thank You! I've been looking into this for some time. I had a bit of a rough time with the IRS and want to be free of them, but I thought it wise to be square with them before starting this tactic. As of this years 1040, I'll be square. I want to start doing this immediately, but because of my past issues with the IRS, I definitely want to be sure I have recourse if and when they come after me again. I think I'll make a trip to my local IRS office and ask some questions about this technique. I will bookmark this thread and post whatever info (if any) I'm able to glean from the evil bastards. The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who has been born of the Spirit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 05/08/2016 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul " U.S. Code › Title 31 › Subtitle IV › Chapter 51 › Subchapter II › § 5115 31 U.S. Code § 5115 - United States currency notes Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.) US Code Notes prev | next (a) The Secretary of the Treasury may issue United States currency notes. The notes— (1) are payable to bearer; and (2) shall be in a form and in denominations of at least one dollar that the Secretary prescribes. (b) The amount of United States currency notes outstanding and in circulation— (1) may not be more than $300,000,000; and (2) may not be held or used for a reserve. (Pub. L. 97–258, Sept. 13, 1982, 96 Stat. 983.)" from: [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] Proof there are 2 forms of "currency notes "outstanding and in circulation". Which notes to you use and endorse? One is TAXABLE as "income" payable to the issuer of the Notes and used as a "reserve currency". The others are "payable to the bearer" limited to "300 million" and may NOT be held or used as a reserve. If the United States Currency Notes are "payable to the bearer" that means the bearer of the Notes are OWED money from the US Treasury, not that they OWE money to the US. If I hold United States Notes listed above, how could I possibly OWE any "money" to the US to "pay" taxes with? Seems like being owed money by the US Treasury (by holding the notes) pretty much ends the arguments that I could owe some of those notes BACK to the very Department that OWES ME for ALL THE NOTES I HOLD. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 05/08/2016 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul [link to www.treasurydirect.gov] LOL, page 13 table 4 under "other debt not subject to the National Debt limit: "United States Notes...................238 (million)" outstanding! Yes, there are 2 forms of "money/currency" in circulation, Federal Reserve Notes and United States currency notes. Which one are you using? Or is the Secretary of the Treasury a lying to Congress every month in the official accounting of the National debt? Demand lawful money and refuse the use of Federal Reserve Notes in any form on ALL bank transactions and business contracts. It really is that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70766233 United States 05/22/2016 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul [link to www.treasurydirect.gov] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 LOL, page 13 table 4 under "other debt not subject to the National Debt limit: "United States Notes...................238 (million)" outstanding! Yes, there are 2 forms of "money/currency" in circulation, Federal Reserve Notes and United States currency notes. Which one are you using? Or is the Secretary of the Treasury a lying to Congress every month in the official accounting of the National debt? Demand lawful money and refuse the use of Federal Reserve Notes in any form on ALL bank transactions and business contracts. It really is that simple. Hi 8469. Would you be willing to mentor another here navigate the process you used. I mostly understand what I think I need to do beyond UC 12 411. But I am very curious on you how you operate in life after you remove yourself from their system. Thanks |
Osbo User ID: 72070457 United States 08/12/2016 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Just before 2 hours in Hartford Van Dyke starts talking. He eventually starts talking money. It is very interesting. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 590644 United States 12/30/2016 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Here is a letter you might consider sending to your congress-critter prior to signing IRS forms under penalty of perjury: QUOTE To Congresscritter: I contacted USA.gov to ask a question and they wrote to me stating: "Thank you for contacting USAGov. "I am not sure that I fully understand your question regarding that U.S. code and the value of U.S. Currency or your coins." ... Sent On - 12/27/2016 Case Number - 01092033-19 They sent me general information but it did not answer my questions. They recommended I contact the U.S. Mint but they don't have an email address and I have difficultly hearing over the phone. Perhaps you can get an answer for me? Here are the questions: There are, to my best estimation, over 5 different congressionally regulated values for United States dollars currently being minted as per 31 USC 5112(a)-(e). I would like to know which U.S. coin or currency is REQUIRED by law to be used when measuring the value of income "other than money" when determining "fair market value." I ask this because 31 USC 5118(c) says I can demand payment MEASURED in a particular United States coin or currency: "United States money measured in... a particular United States coin or currency." So which U.S. dollar is REQUIRED BY LAW to be used when measuring the value of the many other U.S. forms of legal tender? And are there some dollars in 31 USC 5112 that are not money but are just somehow something "other than money" according to the law? I do hope you can answer this for me or forward it to the U.S. Treasury or the U.S. Mint for an answer. Thank you How about that? USA.gov couldn’t answer that simple question. If they cannot answer the question how am I to know the answer? |
Deplorable Jknoph User ID: 71193523 United States 12/30/2016 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul A "dollar" is a dollar. It is the measure. Like an inch. It does not matter what the coins are made of or how big or small they are or aren't. All the matters is they are authorized to be minted by statute. & What dollar or cent amount is stamped on it as specified in the statute. If you want to spend a $50 dollar gold coin it will be accepted for $50 of legal tender. If you want to spend a $1 silver eagle it will be accepted for $1 of legal tender. Of course both of those actions would be galactically stupid. However if you wish to transact in gold or silver coin that is your choice and I'd would be happy to do business with you. Clear? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44702949 United States 12/30/2016 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul A "dollar" is a dollar. It is the measure. Like an inch. Quoting: Deplorable Jknoph It does not matter what the coins are made of or how big or small they are or aren't. All the matters is they are authorized to be minted by statute. & What dollar or cent amount is stamped on it as specified in the statute. If you want to spend a $50 dollar gold coin it will be accepted for $50 of legal tender. If you want to spend a $1 silver eagle it will be accepted for $1 of legal tender. Of course both of those actions would be galactically stupid. However if you wish to transact in gold or silver coin that is your choice and I'd would be happy to do business with you. Clear? Wrong Jknoph....5115 states one ounce of gold is equal to 42.22 dollars therefore clearly one dollar equals 1/42 of an ounce of gold. A federal reserve note does NOT equal 1/42 ounce of gold |
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Deplorable Jknoph User ID: 71193523 United States 12/31/2016 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul A "dollar" is a dollar. It is the measure. Like an inch. Quoting: Deplorable Jknoph It does not matter what the coins are made of or how big or small they are or aren't. All the matters is they are authorized to be minted by statute. & What dollar or cent amount is stamped on it as specified in the statute. If you want to spend a $50 dollar gold coin it will be accepted for $50 of legal tender. If you want to spend a $1 silver eagle it will be accepted for $1 of legal tender. Of course both of those actions would be galactically stupid. However if you wish to transact in gold or silver coin that is your choice and I'd would be happy to do business with you. Clear? Wrong Jknoph....5115 states one ounce of gold is equal to 42.22 dollars therefore clearly one dollar equals 1/42 of an ounce of gold. A federal reserve note does NOT equal 1/42 ounce of gold 5115 says none of that [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] However 5118 says: "(b) The United States Government may not pay out any gold coin. A person lawfully holding United States coins and currency may present the coins and currency to the Secretary of the Treasury for exchange (dollar for dollar) for other United States coins and currency (other than gold and silver coins) that may be lawfully held. The Secretary shall make the exchange under regulations prescribed by the Secretary." The 42 dollar shit is a relic of the international gold standard that was suspended "temporarily" in 1971. In October 1976, the government officially changed the definition of the dollar; references to gold were removed from statutes. Please research a little before spouting horseshit. |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 12/31/2016 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Harry Dent and Mike Maloney have collaborated in a couple of videos. Here is one that was originally made in 2014 (+/-) and a new ending was added later (2015?). The added portion begins at one hour, three minutes. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (85 minutes total) In the first hour Maloney correctly states that the currency in use is completely creditory in nature. What Maloney does not grasp is that the government and the banks have engaged in a massive identity theft. This credit identity theft began in 1913 and furthered along under FDR in the 1930s. This was the implementation of the fifth plank of the communist manifesto that makes the claim that the credit of a nation is the property of the government. The government in turn handed the common credit of the people over to the banks via “license” and the two institutions are now dealing in a massive continuing crime in progress. The banks and the elites who own and control the banks are profiting by dealing in stolen goods. Your socialist “security” number is the identification of a slave who is owned and controlled by “the state.” You have been sold into a system of bondage that dates back to ancient Babylon and which is absolutely Biblical in nature. Richard Cook is absolutely correct in his six part video series – Credit as a Public Utility: Video one: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Playlist: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] However, Cook is still going down that path of believing in a single system administered from a single “authority.” My personal belief is that the common credit of the people should be administered in a decentralized manner. Think geodesic; hubs and struts, where the hub is your local monetary authority and the struts are connections to other monetary authorities. If you repeat the mantra “Gold is money, and he who has the gold makes the rules” you are entrapping your own mind. The people who have placed the gold in the various hoards love that mantra and they will encourage whomever repeats the mantra. To escape that trap you must be smarter than the prison warden. Here is a new mantra: “Money is a communication not limited to any single commodity or any single style of communication.” That mantra is the key to your prison cell; use it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73781255 United States 01/15/2017 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul A "dollar" is a dollar. It is the measure. Like an inch. Quoting: Deplorable Jknoph It does not matter what the coins are made of or how big or small they are or aren't. All the matters is they are authorized to be minted by statute. & What dollar or cent amount is stamped on it as specified in the statute. If you want to spend a $50 dollar gold coin it will be accepted for $50 of legal tender. If you want to spend a $1 silver eagle it will be accepted for $1 of legal tender. Of course both of those actions would be galactically stupid. However if you wish to transact in gold or silver coin that is your choice and I'd would be happy to do business with you. Clear? Wrong Jknoph....5115 states one ounce of gold is equal to 42.22 dollars therefore clearly one dollar equals 1/42 of an ounce of gold. A federal reserve note does NOT equal 1/42 ounce of gold 5115 says none of that [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] However 5118 says: "(b) The United States Government may not pay out any gold coin. A person lawfully holding United States coins and currency may present the coins and currency to the Secretary of the Treasury for exchange (dollar for dollar) for other United States coins and currency (other than gold and silver coins) that may be lawfully held. The Secretary shall make the exchange under regulations prescribed by the Secretary." The 42 dollar shit is a relic of the international gold standard that was suspended "temporarily" in 1971. In October 1976, the government officially changed the definition of the dollar; references to gold were removed from statutes. Please research a little before spouting horseshit. "removed from statutes" does not change nor superceed the law of the land. Maybe you need to do more research. Gold is still valued by the law at just over 42 "dollars" per ounce or face value of the issued coin. color of law is NOT law and ALL statutes are color of law and have been for a long time. |